Kris and Ernie's Tri's

[HRDCOR]

No winny and suspension dont cause localised growth you idiots,anabolic and horemonal products dont work like that as they a metabolised by the body!!!

The growth you are reffering comes via localised swelling due to the suspension based aspect of both products(crystilised active ingrediant in water)

The crystals sit in the muscle tissue causeing iritation and as a defence to this iritation the body inflames the surrouding area as a defence reaction !!This in turn subsides over time as the crystals are metabolised by the body into the blood stream !!!

This effect can also be acheived via tyhe use of propinate as it is in a short acting (rapidly metabolised) oil base , the oil base has very simular constriction to that of bee venom!! hence the swelling and irratation.

The problem with this preceived growth is that you smooth out the muscle site due to the excess water moved to the area(for protection) and you also stand a high risk of infection with large amounts of suspension based product being put into one small area!!, especialy if you have some scar tissue in this area via previous injections !!

And yes Dims Tris look very abnormal, notice the difference from say Priests triceps when he is ripped , you will see deep stirations and shape of a tricep , but look at dimms and you see a bloob,smooth like apperance due to localised swelling !

You decide !!

[paul84]

No winny and suspension dont cause localised growth you idiots,anabolic and horemonal products dont work like that as they a metabolised by the body!!!
The growth you are reffering comes via localised swelling due to the suspension based aspect of both products(crystilised active ingrediant in water)
The crystals sit in the muscle tissue causeing iritation and as a defence to this iritation the body inflames the surrouding area as a defence reaction !!This in turn subsides over time as the crystals are metabolised by the body into the blood stream !!!
This effect can also be acheived via tyhe use of propinate as it is in a short acting (rapidly metabolised) oil base , the oil base has very simular constriction to that of bee venom!! hence the swelling and irratation.
The problem with this preceived growth is that you smooth out the muscle site due to the excess water moved to the area(for protection) and you also stand a high risk of infection with large amounts of suspension based product being put into one small area!!, especialy if you have some scar tissue in this area via previous injections !!
And yes Dims Tris look very abnormal, notice the difference from say Priests triceps when he is ripped , you will see deep stirations and shape of a tricep , but look at dimms and you see a bloob,smooth like apperance due to localised swelling !
You decide !!

You're an idiot. They're bound in the cytoplasm by carrier and transported across the nuclear membrane, where they increase transcription, ultimately leading to increased protein expression.  Orals are "metabolized" because you eat them.  Propionate esters release the hormone faster than a longer ester (ie cypionate), they aren't metabolized.  Don't throw around words you don't know "HRDCOR."

[Dredlock Rasta]

You're an idiot. They're bound in the cytoplasm by carrier and transported across the nuclear membrane, where they increase transcription, ultimately leading to increased protein expression.  Orals are "metabolized" because you eat them.  Propionate esters release the hormone, they aren't metabolized faster.  Don't throw around words you don't know "HRDCOR."

Where you from? Fuckkin medical school? LOL

[fathead]

listen   ............. i don't know what the chemical or chrystals do but it makes you look better.

i'm not a fucken scientist... i'm a bodybuilder  and it worked for me     i didn't just read a got damn chemistry book. 

[HRDCOR]

You're an idiot. They're bound in the cytoplasm by carrier and transported across the nuclear membrane, where they increase transcription, ultimately leading to increased protein expression.  Orals are "metabolized" because you eat them.  Propionate esters release the hormone, they aren't metabolized faster.  Don't throw around words you don't know "HRDCOR

Effectivly being metabolised !!!!!


Metabolising: The chemical process by which all matter is broken down into simpler substances with in the human body for use at celluabel level,thus creating a metabolic pool of given chemical compounds or groups or related groups participating in metabolic reaction ,All chemical changes with in the human body undergo metabolisation at variant levels so the process you descriped ( nice and complex as it was) is simply part of the metabolic workings of the body at it descriped level of change!!
I think your confusing the words metabolisation to the metabolic rate at gut level, not all metabolisation happens at gut level !!!
So basicly metabolisation is the activity if chemical  and matter breakdown by the human body at all levels !!

And I didnt have my med text books with me !!!and I couldnt spell cytoplasm !!


So dude I was trying to keep it simple to understand as not every one is not as smart as you obviously !!!! You idiot !

[paul84]

Effectivly being metabolised !!!!!
Metabolising: The chemical process by which all matter is broken down into simpler substances with in the human body for use at celluabel level,thus creating a metabolic pool of given chemical compounds or groups or related groups participating in metabolic reaction ,All chemical changes with in the human body undergo metabolisation at variant levels so the process you descriped ( nice and complex as it was) is simply part of the metabolic workings of the body at it descriped level of change!!
I think your confusing the words metabolisation to the metabolic rate at gut level, not all metabolisation happens at gut level !!!
So basicly metabolisation is the activity if chemical  and matter breakdown by the human body at all levels !!
And I didnt have my med text books with me !!!and I couldnt spell cytoplasm !!
So dude I was trying to keep it simple to understand as not every one is not as smart as you obviously !!!! You idiot !

You just quoted it, metabolism is breaking it down into simpler things to be used....You don't break down testosterone or any of it's derivatives.  They are transported into the nucleus and activate transcription and protein expression.  A consequence of this is increased cellular metabolism to meet the increased amino acid demand.  But again, no functional unit of these hormones are metabolized, they are already in their simplest, usable form.  Unless you want to include orals which, when metabolized, generally have a 17 Carbon akylation cleaved to become "active."  And again, esters are not metabolized, they undergo half life reduction which is a physical phenomenon, not a biological process.  No, I'm not confusing any words, you just don't know what you're talking about if you think testosterone, boldenone, or any of these anabolics get "further broken down" by metabolism.  Instead, once in the nucleus the bind DNA to induce the process of transcription and subsequent protein expression.  Someone else on this board has to know more than high school bio, help me out.

Also, and this is for you HRDCOR.  Metabolism implies a breakdown to produce ENERGY.  Anabolics do not, after transcription or at any point provide energy.  They in fact create an environment that requires MORE energy.  The reason they are called anabolics. 

[HRDCOR]

Ahh dude how does the Active constitute get removed from its suspended form !!!
Or does all the oil and fluid just travel along for the ride at this intermuscular celluabel level !!?

Testosterone and or anabolic substances are not injected into the body in its direct raw molecular form is it now !!

And the word metabolisim is different to the word metabolise, metabolisim is a specific description of a  reaction whilst metabolise is a specific description of a action !!

Stop trying to show off by useing big words !!

[tommywishbone]

Site injections are cool. Remember the first time you stuck your bicep with a 1" 22g needle & filled it full of deca? Cool. Who cares if it works or not.

[paul84]

Ahh dude how does the Active constitute get removed from its suspended form !!!
Or does all the oil and fluid just travel along for the ride at this intermuscular celluabel level !!?
Testosterone and or anabolic substances are not injected into the body in its direct raw molecular form is it now !!
And the word metabolisim is different to the word metabolise, metabolisim is a specific description of a  reaction whilst metabolise is a specific description of a action !!
Stop trying to show off by useing big words !!

You're even spelling the word wrong.  By the way, a suspension is just that, something SUSPENDED in water.  In the case of testosterone, it's active, unesterified testosterone suspended in water.  It easily dissolves in oil because it's a sterol derivative, so it is characteristic of a lipid.  The "oil going along for the ride" doesn't happen because of a little process called diffusion.  This is a direct result of something called brownian motion.  It isn't broken down "out of the oil."  God you have no idea what you're talking about.  You're from Australia right?  You guys must have the worst educational system on Earth.

[paul84]

Ahh dude how does the Active constitute get removed from its suspended form !!!
Or does all the oil and fluid just travel along for the ride at this intermuscular celluabel level !!?
Testosterone and or anabolic substances are not injected into the body in its direct raw molecular form is it now !!

So you're saying if I take a dialysis bag filled with pure water, put it in salt water, the salt will be "metabolized" out of the surroundings and "metabolized" into the dialysis tubing?  I guess everything you've said so far is true if we just make up meanings for words instead of using their real definitions.

By the way, look up metabolize, I'll guarantee it's definition is something along the lines of to perform the process of metabolism.  It isn't a general word that applies to every principle of biological science.

[HRDCOR]

You still dont get it you F@#king twat , for the amount of time it took you to look all that up , and you know you did some serious research on it to try and get it right (which any one can do by the way), no matter how you wanna explain the intrigate workings of this process it is all still part of the metabolising process !!!
No one,s saying you are wrong dic-head but it is all part of a overall process!!!

Metabolising: The chemical process by which all matter is broken down into simpler substances with in the human body for use at celluabel level,thus creating a metabolic pool of given chemical compounds or groups or related groups participating in metabolic reaction ,All chemical changes with in the human body undergo metabolisation at variant levels so the process you descriped ( nice and complex as it was) is simply part of the metabolic workings of the body at it descriped level of change!!

Actualy I did look up the meaning of Metabolised in a medical text and it gave the description I gave before  "Huh"

So speak to the hand cause the face aint listening !!!

P/s i wold hafe splt it wrght btt dhe spel chex iz nott worken !!!

[paul84]

You still dont get it you F@#king twat , for the amount of time it took you to look all that up , and you know you did some serious research on it to try and get it right (which any one can do by the way), no matter how you wanna explain the intrigate workings of this process it is all still part of the metabolising process !!!
No one,s saying you are wrong dic-head but it is all part of a overall process!!!
Actualy I did look up the meaning of Metabolised in a medical text and it gave the description I gave before  "Huh"
So speak to the hand cause the face aint listening !!!
P/s i wold hafe splt it wrght btt dhe spel chex iz nott worken !!!

You should stick to worshipping male bodybuilders because cellular biology isn't your strong point.  What medical text?  I happen to be a med student, let me know.

[bigdumbbell]

You should stick to worshipping male bodybuilders because cellular biology isn't your strong point.  What medical text?  I happen to be a med student, let me know.

i appreciate all the experts who assessed terri schivo by looking at pictures 

[Bast000]

They do it so they can stand out and a lot of guys have the mindset that "your arms can never be big enough". 

  I agree with that except when the arms are bigger than the legs.

[HRDCOR]

You should stick to worshipping male bodybuilders because cellular biology isn't your strong point.  What medical text?  I happen to be a med student, let me know.

A med student , knew as much , a newbie med student looking at his text books thinking he is now a  guru !!!

And now your all pissd cause you have finally got it , that I am right !!

Good luck with the rest of your 5 years of studie, and we shall talk once you are a doctor whom has had another 2 years of specialising in Hormonal theropy.

[Harry R. M. Pitts]

[Jr. Yates]

yes they definatly looked messed up.

[ARMZ]

No oil or water based roid will pump the muscle up or make it bigger with a site injection. It will break the muscle down with the point tearing your muscle fibers.  Can you find the injection site on Mr. P. ?  Case closed.