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Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« on: November 12, 2014, 05:15:13 PM »
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Source: Obama to announce 10-point immigration plan via exec action as early as next week
By Lucas Tomlinson
Published November 12, 2014
FoxNews.com

EXCLUSIVE: President Obama is planning to unveil a 10-part plan for overhauling U.S. immigration policy via executive action -- including suspending deportations for millions -- as early as next Friday, a source close to the White House told Fox News.

The president's plans were contained in a draft proposal from a U.S. government agency. The source said the plan could be announced as early as Nov. 21, though the date might slip a few days pending final White House approval.

Obama was briefed at the White House by Homeland Security officials before leaving on his Asia-Pacific trip last week, Fox News has learned.

The plan contains 10 initiatives than span everything from boosting border security to improving pay for immigration officers.

But the most controversial pertain to the millions who could get a deportation reprieve under what is known as "deferred action."

The plan calls for expanding deferred action for illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children -- but also for the parents of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents.

The latter could allow upwards of 4.5 million illegal immigrant adults with U.S.-born children to stay, according to estimates.

Another portion that is sure to cause consternation among anti-"amnesty" lawmakers is a plan to expand deferred action for young people. In June 2012, Obama created such a program for illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children, entered before June 2007 and were under 31 as of June 2012. The change would expand that to cover anyone who entered before they were 16, and change the cut-off from June 2007 to Jan. 1, 2010. This is estimated to make nearly 300,000 illegal immigrants eligible.

One of the architects for the president's planned executive actions at DHS is Esther Olavarria, the late Sen. Ted Kennedy's former top immigration lawyer.

Under the changes, Immigration and Customs Enforcement officers also would see a pay raise in order to "increase morale" within the ICE workforce.

DHS also is planning to "promote" the new naturalization process by giving a 50 percent discount on the first 10,000 applicants who come forward, with the exception of those who have income levels above 200 percent of the poverty level.

Tech jobs though a State Department immigrant visa program would offer another half-million immigrants a path to citizenship. This would include their spouses as well.

The other measures include calls to revise removal priorities to target serious criminals for deportation and end the program known as "Secure Communities" and start a new program.

The planning comes as immigrant advocates urge Obama to act. As lawmakers returned for a lame-duck session, Democrats in Congress on Wednesday implored Obama to take executive action.

"We're begging the president. Go big. These [illegal immigrants] are a plus to our nation. Mr. President, please. You said you were going to do something. Do it. Act now," said Rep. Juan Vargas, D-Calif.

House Democratic Whip Steny Hoyer said: "I join with my colleagues in urging the president to take action. What he needs to do is give immediate relief to families who are being wrenched apart and living in fear."

Angela Maria Kelley, vice president for immigration policy at the Center for American Progress, touted deferred action as a "tried and true component of immigration policy used by 11 presidents, 39 times in the last 60 years."

She said for many undocumented immigration who have been here for years, "there is no line for people to get into."

Obama has vowed to act in the absence of congressional action and has claimed that congressional action could still supersede his executive steps.

In a recent op-ed in Politico, Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., said Congress would stop Obama from taking executive action by adding language explicitly barring money from being used for that purpose. "Congress has the power of the purse. The President cannot spend a dime unless Congress appropriates it," Sessions wrote. He also pointed out that similar language in the past has prevented the president from closing the Guantanamo Bay prison camp.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/12/source-obama-to-announce-10-point-immigration-plan-via-exec-action-as-early-as/

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2014, 05:30:15 PM »
Impeach his punk ass.   NOW. 

shit, public support was behind impeachment months ago.  Now we all sit around and complain and whine.  He said it months ago, this was coming.  But nooooooooooooo we can't impeach. 

I'm seriously pissed about amnesty, but the only GOP solution is to run another RINO in 2016, who can't reverse this, even if he/she wins?


Unreal.  Obama sucks but he's a lib, you knew it was coming and nobody is surprised today.

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2014, 07:13:34 PM »
He needs to impeached and jailed

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #3 on: November 12, 2014, 07:27:31 PM »
He needs to impeached and jailed

you cannot jail/charge/try a sitting president.  He has to be impeached first. 

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2014, 11:01:39 AM »
GOP warns of ‘explosion’ if Obama rushes immigration executive action
Published November 13, 2014
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Republican lawmakers blasted the White House on the heels of a Fox News report that President Obama is planning to unveil a 10-part plan for overhauling U.S. immigration policy via executive action as early as next week – with one GOP leader warning there will be “an explosion” if the president moves too soon.

A source close to the White House told Fox News that Obama could announce as early as next Friday. The president's plans were contained in a draft proposal from a U.S. government agency – it includes a plan to suspend deportations for millions.

As Democratic lawmakers and immigrant advocacy groups urge Obama to act as soon as possible, Republicans bristled at the apparently looming announcement.

"He will make the issue absolutely toxic for a decade,” Rep. David Schweikert, R-Ariz., said Thursday.

One concern is that Obama would act before a Dec. 11 deadline for passing a new spending bill. Doing so could thrust the immigration debate into the budget process, with conservatives threatening to yank money from the immigration effort – and potentially triggering another showdown that could result in a partial government shutdown.

Indeed, Rep. Matt Salmon, R-Ariz., already has gathered dozens of signatures on a letter calling for no funding for “the President’s reported intentions to create work permits and green cards for undocumented immigrants currently in the United States.”

House Appropriations Committee Chairman Hal Rogers, R-Ky., said Thursday if Obama acts before the spending bill is done, there will be an “explosion.”

Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., meanwhile, reiterated his concerns that the president would be acting outside the law.

“The president has no authority to do this. It's against the law,” he told Fox News.

The draft plan contains 10 initiatives that span everything from boosting border security to improving pay for immigration officers. But the most controversial pertain to the millions who could get a deportation reprieve under what is known as "deferred action."

The plan calls for expanding deferred action for illegal immigrants who came to the U.S. as children -- but also for the parents of U.S. citizens and legal permanent residents.

The latter could allow upwards of 4.5 million illegal immigrant adults with U.S.-born children to stay, according to estimates.

Sessions voiced concerns that illegal immigrants could simply fib in order to meet the criteria for the program. Further, he said millions more people would then be “entitled” to U.S. privileges including health care.

White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest, traveling with the president in Burma, stressed that the president “has not made a final decision at this point about exactly what will be included in the administrative steps that he will take.”

He would not specify the timing, but reiterated that Obama plans to make an announcement before the end of the year. “That should be an indication to you that the president is nearing a final decision,” he said.

Earnest also said that Obama would “retract” his executive actions if the House passes an immigration overhaul previously passed by the Senate.

The planning comes as immigrant advocates and Democratic lawmakers urge Obama to act.

Rep. Rubén Hinojosa, D-Texas, chairman of the Congressional Hispanic Caucus, said in a statement to Fox News Latino that they are urging the president to “go big and bold.”

He said “White House senior officials have assured our Caucus that the President will announce executive actions before the end of the holiday season.”

Angela Maria Kelley, vice president for immigration policy at the Center for American Progress, touted deferred action as a "tried and true component of immigration policy used by 11 presidents, 39 times in the last 60 years."

She said for many undocumented immigrants who have been here for years, "there is no line for people to get into."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/13/gop-warns-explosion-if-obama-rushes-immigration-executive-action/

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2014, 11:23:02 AM »
Obama trying to send this country into a civil war and chaos.   

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2014, 11:37:58 AM »
Impeach his punk ass.   NOW.  

shit, public support was behind impeachment months ago.  Now we all sit around and complain and whine.  He said it months ago, this was coming.  But nooooooooooooo we can't impeach.  

I'm seriously pissed about amnesty, but the only GOP solution is to run another RINO in 2016, who can't reverse this, even if he/she wins?


Unreal.  Obama sucks but he's a lib, you knew it was coming and nobody is surprised today.

You not only voted for him but convinced your "whole family" to vote for him, in addition to you knee-padding for him non-stop for the last 6 years makes your above outrage meaningless as you are partly responsible for this.

You helped hire him Rob, so if you are truly outraged, then go look in the mirror for someone to blame.

My whole family - all Republicans - are voting Obama.  i'm driving them to the station later - buying everyone dinner - making it a real family event.

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #7 on: November 14, 2014, 04:15:22 AM »
"Look, I believe it is an impeachable offense," Krauthammer told Kelly.

"If the circumstances were different, if we were at the beginning of a presidency, if we hadn't had years when the Congress has been supine and unresponsive at other grabs of their authority by the executive--like Obama unilaterally changing Obamacare after it was passed about 30 times with no response from the Congress--the same as Obama essentially re-writing some of the drug laws.

"This idea of prosecutorial discretion is really a travesty. It is intended for extreme cases. For a case where you want to show mercy for an individual or two where it's unusual incident, unusual circumstances and you say, okay, we're going to give this person a pass. It was never intended to abolish a whole class of people subject to a law and to essentially abolish whole sections of a law. And that's exactly what's happening here."

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2014, 04:36:47 AM »
"Look, I believe it is an impeachable offense," Krauthammer told Kelly.

"If the circumstances were different, if we were at the beginning of a presidency, if we hadn't had years when the Congress has been supine and unresponsive at other grabs of their authority by the executive--like Obama unilaterally changing Obamacare after it was passed about 30 times with no response from the Congress--the same as Obama essentially re-writing some of the drug laws.

"This idea of prosecutorial discretion is really a travesty. It is intended for extreme cases. For a case where you want to show mercy for an individual or two where it's unusual incident, unusual circumstances and you say, okay, we're going to give this person a pass. It was never intended to abolish a whole class of people subject to a law and to essentially abolish whole sections of a law. And that's exactly what's happening here."


Very wise words from Krauthammer.

Look, RINOs, it's not going to be easy to change positions, but it is completely acceptable.  Reince Preibus, Mcconnell, Boehnner - They're all ESTABLISHMENT republicans.  This whole "impeachment is off the table" went out the window long ago.   The BASE of the repub party wants obama out.  Many in congress/senate want it too.

Suddenly, it's becoming OKAY to support impeachment.  It's OKAY to abandon the moderate/RINOs that brainwashed you into thinking it's off the table.   Krauthammer taking this position is HUGE.  Come on RINOs, come jump on the idea - it makes sense - Obama is 46% into his term... He can do PLENTY of damage still.  Put him on defense, and even if there's only a 1% chance impeachment works, that's a 1% chance you stop his evil agenda.

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #9 on: November 14, 2014, 06:40:01 AM »
Georgia Democrat compares Obama's executive amnesty to Emancipation Proclamation (Hurl!!!)
Examiner ^  | November 13, 2014 | Joe Newby

Posted on ‎11‎/‎14‎/‎2014‎ ‎9‎:‎37‎:‎05‎ ‎AM by BradtotheBone

During a media gathering on President Obama's plan to grant executive amnesty to millions of illegal immigrants, Rep. Hank Johnson, the Georgia Democrat who once wondered if Guam would tip over from overpopulation, compared the plan to the Emancipation Proclamation, the Daily Caller reported Thursday. According to Bloomberg's Dave Weigel, Johnson also "speculated about which of its defenders would star in a movie adaptation of the struggle."

But the comparison is hardly fitting, since the Emancipation Proclamation -- signed nearly 152 years ago by the nation's first Republican president -- did not free all the slaves, but only those in the Confederacy. Moreover, Johnson's claim falsely assumes that illegal immigrants are bought and sold the same way slaves were in the years prior to the Civil War.

Johnson was not the only Democrat to make an over-the-top statement at the meeting, Alex Griswold said. Rep. Sheila Jackson Lee, the Texas Democrat once dubbed the 'Congressional boss from Hell," said, “We will circle the president on fire. We will be on fire for rightness and justice.”

Democrats, Weigel said, did all they could to encourage Obama to "go big" on amnesty. Republicans, meanwhile, had nothing new to add.

"We'll not be shutting the government down, threatening to default on the national debt," said incoming Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Ky., despite some talk Republicans would use every means available -- including a partial shutdown -- to stop Obama's executive action. House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, refused to rule out a shutdown on Thursday and said House Republicans would “fight the president tooth and nail.” Rep. Walter Jones, R-N.C., suggested using impeachment as a way to stop executive amnesty.


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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2014, 07:26:07 AM »
Is there anyone left who will still deny this guy is a leftist radical to the core?


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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2014, 07:27:53 AM »
She said for many undocumented immigrants who have been here for years, "there is no line for people to get into."

What?

Total BS. The line begins with deporting them.

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2014, 07:44:16 AM »
Obama is blatantly defying both congress AND the will of the american people.

He is literally siding with foreigners, foreign interests and foreign invaders over siding with the american people.

IF THIS ISNT THE VERY DEFINITION OF TREASON, WHAT IS???

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« Reply #13 on: November 14, 2014, 07:47:45 AM »
Obama is blatantly defying both congress AND the will of the american people.

He is literally siding with foreigners, foreign interests and foreign invaders over siding with the american people.

IF THIS ISNT THE VERY DEFINITION OF TREASON, WHAT IS???

Opposing free birth control for Sandra fluke is treason

Opposing ISIS and the spread of sharia law is treason

Opposing that fat ghetto C$%T Michelle Obama dictacting food choices to your kid is treason

Opposing Obamacare is treason

Opposing communism is treason



See - this is the USA in 2014 under Kenyan Law

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2014, 08:28:07 AM »
She said for many undocumented immigrants who have been here for years, "there is no line for people to get into."

What?

Total BS. The line begins with deporting them.

All Libs + All RINOs disagree with you.   That's probably 65% of the country right there.  :(

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2014, 09:01:14 AM »
LISTEN....

Whether you agree with this policy or not..... EITHER freakin' way you have to say WTF?????


How any one person can take "executive action" on something like this completely bypassing our "checks and balances" system is grounds not only for impeachment but for treason and death penalty..


WTF??  I dont care if you are for this policy or not.... the method COMPLETELY undermines everything this country was founded on.

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2014, 09:09:08 AM »
Obama and his fellow communist travelers see destruction of this nation into a 3rd world Kenyan hut and flophouse as their life long mission - so rules and laws be damned - only two years left fo them do it. 

LISTEN....

Whether you agree with this policy or not..... EITHER freakin' way you have to say WTF?????


How any one person can take "executive action" on something like this completely bypassing our "checks and balances" system is grounds not only for impeachment but for treason and death penalty..


WTF??  I dont care if you are for this policy or not.... the method COMPLETELY undermines everything this country was founded on.

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2014, 09:30:32 AM »
Obama State Dep't. Creates New Program to Import Children from Latin America
CNSNews ^  | November 14, 2014 | Brittany M. Hughes

Posted on ‎11‎/‎14‎/‎2014‎ ‎12‎:‎10‎:‎47‎ ‎PM by jazusamo

(CNSNews.com) -  The Obama administration announced on Friday a plan to create a new refugee/parole program for children in El Salvador, Guatemala and Honduras whose parents are legal residents of the United States.

“This program will allow certain parents who are lawfully present in the United States to request access to the U.S. Refugee Admissions Program for their children still in one of these three countries,” the State Department said in a news release. The department added that “[c]hildren who are found ineligible for refugee admission but still at risk of harm may be considered for parole on a case-by-case basis.”

The State Department said the new, in-country program is a “safe, legal, and orderly alternative to the dangerous journey that some children are currently undertaking to the United States.”

Under the Immigration and Nationality Act, refugee status is reserved for people fleeing their home country due to “persecution or a well-founded fear of persecution on account of race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.”

But under the new program, a child who doesn’t qualify as a refugee might still come to the United States.

“Applicants found by DHS to be ineligible for refugee status in the United States will be considered on a case-by-case basis for parole, which is a mechanism to allow someone who is otherwise inadmissible to come to the United States for urgent humanitarian reasons or significant public benefit,” the State Department said.

“Humanitarian parole” is a category found under Section 212.5 of the INA that allows a non-U.S. citizen entrance into the United States on a temporary basis due to “urgent humanitarian reasons” or “significant public benefit.” In the past, this status has been granted to persons with serious medical needs, pregnant women and to some Cuban citizens.

“An individual considered for parole may be eligible for parole if DHS finds that the individual is at risk of harm, he/she clears all background vetting, there is no serious derogatory information, and someone has committed to financially support the individual while he/she is in the United States,” the State Department said in the news release.

Under the new program, parents of a “paroled” child will need to pay the cost of the child’s medical clearance and travel to the United States.

“Parole is temporary and does not confer any permanent legal immigration status or path to permanent legal immigration status in the United States,” the State Department said, adding that these children “are not eligible for medical and other benefits upon arrival in the United States, but are eligible to attend school and/or apply for employment authorization.”

Parole is granted on an initial period of two years with an option to renew, the State Department added.

In order to be considered for the new program, the child must undergo a pre-screening interview, DNA testing to confirm parentage and an interview to determine if he or she qualifies for refugee status, the State Department said. They must also undergo “security checks” and a medical screening.

If the child is approved for admission into the U.S., the child’s parent(s) must sign a form agreeing to repay the cost of his or her travel to the United States, according to the State Department.

“Approved refugees will be eligible for the same support provided to all refugees resettled in the United States, including assignment to a resettlement agency that will assist with reception and placement, and assistance registering children in school,” the news release said.

The State Department emphasized that the new program will not be available to illegal alien parents who are currently in the United States.

“The refugee/parole program will not be a pathway for undocumented parents to bring their children to the United States, but instead, the program will provide certain vulnerable, at-risk children an opportunity to be reunited with parents lawfully resident in the United States.”

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #18 on: November 14, 2014, 09:36:43 AM »
He previously acknowledged halting deportations would be unconstitutional.  What did he do?  "Evolve"?  



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« Reply #19 on: November 14, 2014, 09:41:25 AM »
He previously acknowledged halting deportations would be unconstitutional.  What did he do?  "Evolve"?  




Clear as day.  

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« Reply #20 on: November 14, 2014, 09:43:54 AM »
LISTEN....

Whether you agree with this policy or not..... EITHER freakin' way you have to say WTF?????


How any one person can take "executive action" on something like this completely bypassing our "checks and balances" system is grounds not only for impeachment but for treason and death penalty..


WTF??  I dont care if you are for this policy or not.... the method COMPLETELY undermines everything this country was founded on.

Exactly...

Especially when it is something that both congress AND the american people agree on and both strongly oppose

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« Reply #21 on: November 14, 2014, 09:53:36 AM »
We need to agree that NO PRESIDENT needs this kind of power.  Bush had it, libs went batshit when Bush did it.  Now obama is doing it, and repubs are going batshit.

IMO, we need to cut exec power in a big way.  not to stop obama, not to stop the next repub... but because it completely WRECKS the system of checks and balances.

There is ZERO way an amnesty bill would get thru congress OR thru a national vote on it.  YET it's going to pass because of executive order. 

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« Reply #22 on: November 14, 2014, 01:11:44 PM »
Defiant Obama: I will use my power
The Politico ^  | November 14, 2014 | Josh Gerstein

Posted on ‎11‎/‎14‎/‎2014‎ ‎4‎:‎00‎:‎06‎ ‎PM by 2ndDivisionVet

YANGON, Myanmar — President Barack Obama on Friday defended his plans to use executive power to bypass Congress, signaling that he’s determined to move on issues like immigration and climate change, especially when lawmakers have failed to act.

“They have the ability to fix the system. What they don’t have is the ability to do is expect me to stand by with a broken system in perpetuity,” Obama said on immigration reform at a joint news conference here with Myanmar dissident leader Aung San Suu Kyi. “It’s way overdue. We’ve been talking about it for 10 years now and it’s been consistently stalled.”

Obama said he’s determined to grant relief to illegal immigrants in the coming weeks if Congress doesn’t produce a bill first.

“I gave the House over a year to at least give a vote on the Senate bill. They failed to do so,” the president said. “I indicated to Speaker Boehner several months ago that if Congress failed to act, I would use all lawful authority that I possess … That’s going to happen. And that’s going to happen before the end of the year.”

Obama also suggested that the deal he cut with China to reduce greenhouse gas emissions was proper because he has to take into account longer-term interests than do lawmakers who have resisted such actions....


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He needs to be impeached and removed from office - he is a tyrant and a doped up wannabe

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Re: Amnesty Coming to a Town Near You
« Reply #23 on: November 14, 2014, 01:25:13 PM »
He needs to be impeached and removed from office - he is a tyrant and a doped up wannabe

I can't wait for Cruz to take over Senate.  America needs leadership that isn't lib, isn't rino, isn't the same old, same old.

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« Reply #24 on: November 14, 2014, 03:04:59 PM »
I can't wait for Cruz to take over Senate.  America needs leadership that isn't lib, isn't rino, isn't the same old, same old.

How is Cruz going to take over the Senate when McConnell was unanimously elected to be Senate Majority Leader??