Zeek, sure it's nice to ask the guy's who have had the hand's on experience, but you gotta come with some knowledge of your own. I can somewhat appreciate the analogy you used invoving grandpa and WWII, but come on bro, Grandpa couldn't have given you all the answers to WWII, sometimes you have to find the right answers on your own. And you definitely need more discipline, I mean you "cant get to bed til 4am"??!! Thats a bullshit excuse, get to bed at a decent time, and you don't have to force feed yourself at once just make your calories count and eat several small meals a day, its easier that way anyhow. From what I have learned about AAS is that if you are using, and you are lifting then your body should be demanding food anyway. If you have the freedom to sleep all day and stay up all night knocking off a piece of ass, and you can afford AAS then you also have the freedom to build ALOT of muscle. You need discipline, plain and simple, get serious man. Good luck.