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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #25 on: April 27, 2015, 12:26:30 PM »
Jeb Bush Tops Clinton, GOP Field in Virginia Poll

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Monday, 27 Apr 2015
By Drew MacKenzie

Presidential contender Jeb Bush is leading the 2016 GOP field in the battleground state of Virginia as well as beating Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton, according to a new poll.

The former Florida governor tops Florida Sen. Marco Rubio by a single point, 17 percent to 16 percent, with the rest of the pack at least 7 points back, says the study by the Wason Center for Public Policy at Christopher Newport University.

In a head-to-head 2016 showdown with Clinton, Bush was ahead by 2 points, 48 percent to 46 percent, after lagging 5 points behind the former secretary of state in a poll taken in February before Clinton came under fire for conducting official government duties on her private email server.

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, and Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul received 10 percent of the votes in a potential GOP race for the White House, The Washington Times reports.

Retired neurosurgeon and outspoken conservative Ben Carson had 7 percent along with tea party favorite Texas Sen. Ted Cruz, the poll revealed. Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee was close behind them with 6 percent of the vote.

"The Republican field continues to be very fluid," said Tom Kramer, assistant director of the Wason Center for Public Policy. "While there are no break-out candidates yet, we do see a sorting taking place, with Bush and Rubio emerging as top-tier candidates, and Christie, Paul and Walker forming a solid second-tier.

"Battleground Virginia will live up to its name in 2016. In the face of a barrage of attacks from her real and potential Republican challengers, Clinton’s once formidable position has weakened, as we knew it would.

"Even at this early stage, the presidential election in Virginia is shaping up to be a closely fought contest."

Clinton tops Christie by 2 points, down 5 points from February, and she also leads Paul by 2 points and Rubio by 4 points, down from 10 points and 9 points, respectively, since February. She’s also ahead of Huckabee by 3 points after leading him by 10 points in February, according to the Times.

The survey of 658 registered voters was conducted from April 13-24 and has a margin of error of plus or minus 4.6 percent.

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Jeb-Bush-Hillary-Clinton-virginia-poll/2015/04/27/id/640927/#ixzz3YXVNpHwv

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #26 on: May 04, 2015, 12:07:45 PM »
The 2016 Results We Can Already Predict
The battleground states will give you déjà vu.
By LARRY J. SABATO, KYLE KONDIK and GEOFFREY SKELLEY
May 03, 2015


As the country has become more divided and polarized, the number of swing states has steadily shrunk. Even in 2000, when 537 votes in Florida elected a president, just 12 states were decided by five points or less. That number contracted to just four states in 2012.

When Jimmy Carter defeated President Gerald Ford in 1976, every big state was competitive: California, New York, Pennsylvania, Texas, Illinois and Ohio all had at least 25 electoral votes, and each one was decided by less than five points. All told, 20 of 50 states were won by five points or less. This wasn’t unique; an earlier close election, the 1960 match-up between John Kennedy and Richard Nixon, produced razor-thin results in exactly the same number of states, with almost all the mega-states of that day recording tight margins.

We don’t really have elections like 1960 and 1976 anymore. In the current Electoral College battlefield, 40 of 50 states have voted for the same candidate in all four elections since 2000. And, of the 10 exceptions, three were fluky: New Mexico’s pluralities were wafer-thin in both 2000, when it went for Al Gore, and 2004, when George W. Bush took the state. It has now trended mainly Democratic. Indiana and North Carolina, meanwhile, narrowly went for Barack Obama in 2008, in part because Obama’s campaign invested heavily in field operations and advertising in those states while John McCain, out of necessity, neglected them. Overall, Hoosiers are still predominantly Republican and Tar Heels marginally so. That leaves just seven super-swingy states: Colorado, Florida, Nevada, Ohio, and Virginia, all of which backed Bush and Obama twice each, and Iowa and New Hampshire, which have voted Democratic in three of the last four elections.

So it’s no wonder that these special seven states start as the only obvious toss-ups on our first 2016 Electoral Map.



This map feels like déjà vu: It’s effectively the same map we featured for much of the 2012 cycle, and it unmistakably suggests the Democratic nominee should start the election as at least a marginal Electoral College favorite over his or (probably) her Republican rival. However, at the starting gate it is wiser to argue that the next election is basically a 50-50 proposition.

How can that be when Democrats are so much closer to the magic number of 270 than Republicans?

At heart, it’s because the past is often not a good guide to the future. With regularity in modern history, the Electoral College’s alleged lock for one party has been picked by the other party, usually at eight-year intervals. A few states that appear to be solidly in one party’s column can switch in any given year because of short-term (Indiana) or long-term (Virginia) forces. Other states that merely lean to one party require less of a push to change allegiances. North Carolina tilts to the GOP and Wisconsin to the Democrats, but it doesn’t require much imagination to foresee the winning party flipping one or the other.

For the Democrats, a victory in 2016 entails zero expansion of the blue map, merely the limiting of blue-to-red transformations. Assuming the lean, likely, and safe Democratic states remain loyal to the party, the nominee need only win 23 of the 85 toss-up electoral votes. And if a lean Democratic state such as Wisconsin turns red, it is relatively easy to replace those votes with one or two toss-ups.

On the other hand, Republicans must hold all their usual states plus find a way to stitch together an additional 64 electoral votes, or 79 if they can’t hold North Carolina. To do this, the GOP candidate will have to come close to sweeping the toss-ups under most scenarios—a difficult task unless the election year’s fundamentals (President Obama’s job approval, economic conditions, war and peace, and so on) are moving powerfully against the Democrats.

It is possible, maybe quite plausible, that any new Republican path to Electoral College victory will wend through the whiter-than-average industrial Midwest, but as of now it’s more likely to expect the GOP’s electoral map to look much like George W. Bush’s narrow route to the White House—a solid South, rural Midwest and Rocky Mountain majority.

One could argue that we’re giving the Democrats short shrift by not calling rapidly diversifying North Carolina a toss-up, or leaning Nevada to them because of its growing and largely Democratic Hispanic vote. But if one assumes that the 2016 outcome will be closer than Obama’s 2012 national victory margin of four percentage points—and that is a reasonable working assumption 18 months in advance of Election Day—then Nevada should be tight while North Carolina would take on a reddish hue.

That said, there are two predictions we can make at this point.

First, if Republicans lose either Florida or Ohio, the nominee has no realistic path to victory. Both states are typically at least slightly more Republican than the nation as a whole. If GOP voters are thinking strategically during the nominating process, they will pick a candidate with a profile appealing to Sunshine and Buckeye state residents.

Second, while there are credible Democratic paths to the White House without Virginia, anything other than a win or a loss by just a percent or two in the Old Dominion will signal the Democrat’s downfall. Virginia was (slightly) more Democratic than the nation in 2012 for the first time since Franklin Roosevelt’s era, and population trends that are increasingly favorable to Democrats are continuing.

We’ll expand on this analysis in this Thursday’s Crystal Ball newsletter. But, if you plan to go where the action will be, you can already safely book those autumn 2016 travel packages to Columbus, Denver, Des Moines, Las Vegas, Manchester, Richmond and Tampa.

http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2015/05/2016-predictions-117554.html#ixzz3ZCMF2Zfa

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #27 on: May 04, 2015, 02:11:58 PM »
She's definitely going to be formidable.  Not because she is a stellar, but because the MSM will prop her up and cover her sins, and a plethora of mindless drones will vote for her regardless of what comes out of her mouth (or her past).  

You're 100% accurate.

Like it or not Hillary Clinton will be our next President.

Women, Blacks & Gays will decide our next  "se- election"

Now let be go and puke !!  :-X

 

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #28 on: May 05, 2015, 10:54:25 AM »
You're 100% accurate.

Like it or not Hillary Clinton will be our next President.

Women, Blacks & Gays will decide our next  "se- election"

Now let be go and puke !!  :-X

 

It's too soon to say who will win, but she's definitely going to be a beast. 

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #29 on: May 06, 2015, 09:16:01 AM »
keep voting the two party system..



go Merica' !

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #30 on: May 06, 2015, 11:37:32 AM »
keep voting the two party system..



go Merica' !

Im not American but thats the circumstances they are dealt.
Its no different in my country in reality there is only 2 options too choose from.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #31 on: May 06, 2015, 11:42:16 AM »
Wrong you dishonest troll. 


na.... that was pretty spot on...cant be denied... if it could.. you would have disputed it in your first post response to it.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #32 on: May 07, 2015, 11:32:42 AM »

na.... that was pretty spot on...cant be denied... if it could.. you would have disputed it in your first post response to it.

Wrong.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #33 on: May 28, 2015, 11:21:25 AM »
Dems hope for Cruz, fear Bush
By Mike Lillis
May 27, 2015

Democrats are rooting for Sen. Ted Cruz (Texas) to win the Republican presidential nomination, and Jeb Bush is the 2016 candidate they fear the most, according to a survey conducted by The Hill.

In interviews with more than a dozen Democratic lawmakers, former members and strategists, The Hill asked questions to gauge what Democrats think of the large Republican field.

Democrats think Cruz, a conservative firebrand, would alienate independent voters, propel liberals to the polls and give their party the best shot at picking up congressional seats in next year’s elections.

Bush, they say, would be the much tougher opponent, because he’s a former governor from a political dynasty who can both raise hundreds of millions of dollars and appeal more strongly to women and independent voters.

The former Florida governor’s moderate positions on immigration, while unpopular in conservative circles, would also help him with Hispanic voters who could prove crucial in important battleground states such as Florida, Nevada, Virginia and Colorado, the Democrats say.

Bush has not officially entered the contest, but is expected to announce his bid in the coming weeks.

“Unquestionably, without going into names, a more centrist Republican candidate is tougher to campaign against,” said Rep. Steve Israel (N.Y.), who’s heading the messaging strategy for House Democrats.

“All the polling shows us that the Republican brand is highly unpopular,” Israel added. “A Republican who’s reflecting that brand all the way on the right is easy to win against. A Republican who plays against the brand is harder to win against.”

Behind Bush, Democrats are also wary of Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker and Sen. Marco Rubio (Fla.), two relatively new faces who have nonetheless proven to be effective fundraisers while appealing to conservatives and independents alike.

Rep. Raúl Grijalva (D-Ariz.) characterized both as “formidable opponents,” singling out Rubio as particularly tough “because he has no record” and “can make it up as he goes.”

Democrats, who are licking their wounds after a brutal 2014 election cycle, are hoping to ride the coattails of their most likely nominee — Hillary Clinton — to down-ballot success at the polls in 2016.

But they think their chances also hinge on their ability to draw the sharpest contrast between the two candidates at the top of the ticket. That’s why Bush and Rubio worry Democratic operatives.

The Democrats polled by The Hill — by no means members of the Cruz fan club — are rooting for him in the primary battle.

The overwhelming refrain from the Democrats polled is that the Texas senator’s no-apologies brand of conservatism would provide the contrast that will boost their odds in congressional races.

“I don’t [dispute] that Cruz is a force — he’s demonstrated that — but he’s the force that we’d like to see,” said Rep. John Larson (Conn.), former head of the House Democratic Caucus. “He’s a very talented and capable person, but his path to ascendency is to take them further right than they already are, and in order for them to win, they’ve got to be center-right.”

Doug Thornell, Democratic strategist and managing director at SKDKnickerbocker, echoed that message, arguing that a Cruz nomination “would be a catastrophe for the Republican Party.”

“He would be an anvil around the necks of House and Senate Republicans,” Thornell said. “He’s toxic. People see him as a destructive force who doesn’t want to see Washington work, and would shut the place down.”

The 44-year-old Cruz, the first candidate to jump into the still-growing GOP primary field, has been a quickly rising force in national politics, carving out a conservative niche.

His insistence that an ObamaCare repeal be a part of a government spending package contributed to the 2013 shutdown, and his hard line on issues as diverse as immigration reform and abortion have made him a darling of the Tea Party. But many Republicans are wary of Cruz, saying that he has damaged the GOP brand.

Several political action committees supporting Cruz have raked in tens of millions of dollars already this year. And Cruz’s campaign got a boost last week when four Texas Republicans — Reps. Louie Gohmert, Michael Burgess, John Culberson and John Ratcliffe — endorsed his presidential bid.

Still, establishment Republicans, perhaps acknowledging Cruz’s polarizing nature, have been much more reluctant to get on board. Rep. Michael McCaul (R-Texas), chairman of the Homeland Security Committee, said he’s looking for a presidential nominee “who can unite our party and not divide it.”

“A lot of us are tired of this division going on,” McCaul said Thursday at a Christian Science Monitor breakfast in Washington. “I like more a Reagan-type person who can bring the party together and the country, and not be a polarizing, divisive figure.”

Democrats know that Cruz is not the favorite to win the GOP primary. The RealClearPolitics average of polls shows Bush at the top, with Cruz tied for fifth.

Still, political strategists say Cruz could do well in the Iowa caucuses and seize momentum. A recent Quinnipiac University poll had Walker leading Iowa, with Cruz in fourth place and Bush in seventh.

A former House Democrat, noting Cruz’s role in fueling the 2013 government shutdown, said the freshman Texas senator would be a godsend for the Democrats.

“He’s polarizing enough that he would really stimulate the Democratic base,” the former lawmaker said on background. “And he’s controversial enough in the Republican Party that it would disquiet the Chamber of Commerce wing and deaden the Republican turnout.”

Not all Democrats agree. Rep. Marc Veasey (D-Texas) said he’s concerned that the fellow Texan would energize Republicans in a way that Mitt Romney simply didn’t in 2012. And Rep. Alan Grayson (D-Fla.) offered a similar message, arguing that turnout in states like his “is the whole game.”

“In Florida, there’s the blue team, there’s the red team, and everyone knows which team they’re on. It’s that simple. So the only question is: Can you get your people to vote?” Grayson said. “The more effective Republican presidential candidate will be the one who can motivate the base.”

http://thehill.com/blogs/ballot-box/presidential-races/243165-dems-hope-for-cruz-fear-bush

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #34 on: May 28, 2015, 01:46:04 PM »
Quinnipiac Poll: Rubio, Paul Only GOP Hopefuls That Come Close to Clinton

Image: Quinnipiac Poll: Rubio, Paul Only GOP Hopefuls That Come Close to Clinton  (Darren McCollester/Getty Images; Michael B. Thomas/Getty Images) 
Thursday, 28 May 2015
By Melissa Clyne

While Hillary Clinton continues to dominate the Democratic field of candidates running for president in 2016, a Republican frontrunner has yet to emerge, a new Quinnipiac University Poll finds, with a five-way tie for the top spot.

 The five candidates leading the poll at 10 percent are:
•Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush
•Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson
•Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee
•U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida
•Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker

Twenty-percent of GOP voters who participated in the poll remain undecided.

After the five-way split at the top, the next five are:
•U.S. Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky (7 percent)
•U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas (6 percent)
•Business tycoon Donald Trump (5 percent)
•New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie (4 percent)
•Former Hewlett Packard CEO Carly Fiorina (2 percent)
•Ohio Gov. John Kasich (2 percent)

The top 10 will receive invitations to participate in televised debates.

 The poll, however, shows only two,  Rubio and Paul, are threats to Clinton in hypothetical matchups, each coming within three to four points of the former First Lady if the race were held today.
In a sign of how large numbers of Americans have yet to begin processing the early stages of the presidential race, 20 percent of respondents said they did not yet have a favored candidate.

"Safe to say, the 2016 Republican presidential primary is anyone's race," said Quinnipiac's assistant director Tim Malloy.

"With no front-runner and identical numbers for the top five contenders, it's a horserace which can only be described as a scrambled field -- at least so far."

With the GOP nomination contest wide open, the Democratic side was all about Clinton.

Clinton, aiming to become the nation's first-ever female president, earned 57 percent support -- a three-point drop compared to an April 24 Quinnipiac poll, but still well ahead of socialist-leaning Senator Bernie Sanders, with 15 percent.

Vice President Joe Biden, who has flirted with a run but has yet to take many of the steps seen as prerequisites to a campaign launch, was third at 9 percent.

Martin O'Malley, a recent two-term Maryland governor who is expected to launch his presidential bid Saturday, barely registered with 1 percent support.

In hypothetical matchups with her Republican rivals, only Paul and Rubio posed threats. Clinton came out on top 46 percent to 42 percent against Paul, and 45-41 versus Rubio.

Clinton cruised against the other Republicans, including a 47-37 advantage over Bush, the son and brother of two former presidents.

But on qualities seen as important for the highest executive office, it was a mixed bag for Clinton.

Voters by 53 to 39 percent said Clinton is not honest and trustworthy, but they responded 60-37 percent that she has strong leadership qualities.

They are split, 48-47, over whether Clinton cares about their needs and problems.

"Can you get low marks on honesty and still be a strong leader? Sure you can," Malloy said.

"Hillary Clinton crushes her democratic rivals and keeps the GOP hoard at arm's length."

The May 19-26 poll surveyed 1,711 registered voters nationwide, and it has a margin of error of plus or minus 2.4 percentage points.

Information from AFP was used in this report.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/clinton-rubio-paul-poll/2015/05/28/id/647158/#ixzz3bT5I8Bn0

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #35 on: May 29, 2015, 08:11:40 AM »
What is the number of Republicans who have declared their presidential run vs the number of Democrats?

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #36 on: May 29, 2015, 11:00:27 AM »
What is the number of Republicans who have declared their presidential run vs the number of Democrats?

As of today, eight Republicans and two Democrats.  http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/us/elections/2016-presidential-candidates.html?_r=0

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #37 on: June 03, 2015, 06:59:32 PM »
Fox News Poll: Bush, Walker, Carson top GOP pack, support for Clinton down
By  Dana Blanton
Published June 03, 2015
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National security is a much bigger issue for Republicans this time than during the last primary.  And more GOP hopefuls make it official -- yet they barely move the needle.  Bernie Sanders nearly doubles his numbers and support for Hillary Clinton dips -- even as Democrats say they’re not concerned about allegations of her dishonesty. 

These are some of the findings from the latest Fox News poll on the 2016 presidential election. 

There’s no true frontrunner in the race for the GOP nomination - and not all the candidates in the poll have declared yet. The new poll, released Wednesday, finds three Republicans receiving double-digit backing from GOP primary voters:  former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker each receive 12 percent and neurosurgeon Ben Carson gets 11 percent. 

They are followed by Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul at 9 percent, Texas Sen. Ted Cruz at 8 percent, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio at 7 percent, former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee at 6 percent and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie at 5 percent.

Former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, who will make his candidacy official Thursday, and businessman Donald Trump get 4 percent each. 

Three Republicans officially threw their hat in the ring recently. South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham announced June 1, former New York Gov. George Pataki announced May 28 and former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum declared May 27.  Each receives 2 percent. 

Businesswoman Carly Fiorina and Ohio Gov. John Kasich also each garner 2 percent.

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The top four favorites among the Tea Party movement are Walker (22 percent), Cruz (17 percent), Carson (12 percent) and Paul (11 percent).

It’s no wonder the GOP race is so splintered.  Of the candidates tested, about one in five Republican primary voters say they would “definitely” vote for six of them: Walker (22 percent), Carson (21 percent), Rubio (21 percent), Bush (20 percent), Cruz (19 percent) and Paul (19 percent).

More than half say they would “never” support Trump (59 percent).  That’s the highest number saying they would never vote for a particular candidate.  Christie comes next (37 percent), followed by Bush and Huckabee (24 percent each) and Paul (20 percent).

Bush alone has the distinction of being in the top five of both the “definitely” and the “never” vote for lists. 

Walker, who is still unannounced, looks especially well-positioned among GOP primary voters.  Not only does he have the highest number saying they would “definitely” vote for him (22 percent), but he also has the lowest “never” vote for number of those tested (eight percent).

GOP voters are most likely to “want more info about” Kasich (60 percent), Fiorina (55 percent) and Walker (47 percent). 

The priorities of Republican primary voters have changed significantly since last time around.  Forty-six percent say economic issues will be most important in deciding their vote for the GOP nomination.  That’s down 30 percentage points from the 76 percent who said the same in 2011.  And 36 percent now say national security will be their deciding issue -- more than four times the 8 percent that said so four years ago. For 12 percent, social issues will be most important, up from six percent. 

On the Democratic side, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton remains the clear frontrunner for the nomination with 57 percent support among self-identified Democratic primary voters. Still, that’s down from 63 percent last month, and marks only the second time in more than a year that support for Clinton is below 60 percent.  Her highest support was 69 percent in April 2014. 

At the same time, support for Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders nearly doubled, from six percent last month to 11 percent now.  He was at 4 percent in April.

The most recent Democratic contender to jump in the race, former Maryland Gov. Martin O’Malley, garners 4 percent.  That’s a nice bump from the less than one percent support he got before his May 30 announcement.  Vice President Joe Biden (8 percent) and Massachusetts Sen. Elizabeth Warren (7 percent) -- both are undeclared -- still best O’Malley. 

Despite Clinton controlling the field, most Democratic voters -- 69 percent -- say someone else could still win the nomination. That’s more than twice the 28 percent who say the race is over.

Most Democratic primary voters, 68 percent, say they are not worried about allegations of Clinton’s dishonesty and unethical behavior.  Thirty-one percent are concerned, including 10 percent who feel “very concerned.”

For the broader electorate, however, recent allegations against Clinton may be more problematic. A 61-percent majority of voters thinks it is at least somewhat likely that the Clintons were “selling influence to foreign contributors” who made donations to the Clinton Foundation while Hillary Clinton was secretary of state.  A significant minority of Democrats (41 percent) feels that way, as do a majority of independents (66 percent) and most Republicans (82 percent).

Pollpourri
 Would you rather the next president be a Democrat or a Republican?  The poll asks voters that simple question and finds … a split!  Forty percent prefer a Democrat and 39 percent a Republican.  The results are also evenly divided among independents: 24 percent say Democrat, 24 percent Republican and 35 percent “other.”

By a 51-39 percent margin, more voters say it would be “a bad thing for the country” if a Democrat wins the presidential election and continues President Obama’s policies.  That includes 88 percent of Republicans, 52 percent of independents and 20 percent of Democrats.

About the same number of voters says they would be “very” interested in watching a presidential debate between Hillary Clinton and Jeb Bush (38 percent), as they would between Clinton and Fiorina, the other female candidate (35 percent), or between Clinton and Paul (35 percent).

And women are as likely to want to watch Clinton debate Bush (37 percent) as they are to want to see Clinton debate Fiorina (36 percent).

The Fox News poll is based on landline and cell phone interviews with 1,006 randomly chosen registered voters nationwide and was conducted under the joint direction of Anderson Robbins Research (D) and Shaw & Company Research (R) from May 31-June 2, 2015. The full poll has a margin of sampling error of plus or minus three percentage points. The margin of error is higher among the subgroups of Democratic and Republican primary voters (+/-5%).

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/06/03/fox-news-poll-bush-walker-carson-top-gop-pack-support-for-clinton-down/?intcmp=latestnews

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #38 on: June 03, 2015, 07:26:30 PM »
yep, i was being sarcastic.   Repubs play this big victim card, blaming channels like MSNBC that nobody watches, any time a dem wins.  yet these same networks were powerless to stop Bush, oddly ;)

Dude the way you hand out beat downs to hypocrites is something of an art now.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #39 on: June 03, 2015, 08:57:57 PM »
Dude the way you hand out beat downs to hypocrites is something of an art now.

every election is the same.   Most conservatives on getbig as scared to commit to positions until after the candidate is decided.  They can't say how they feel about the friggin patriot act.  and they always try to tell us a RINO is the only one that can win.  08, 12, and probably 2016 too.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #40 on: June 03, 2015, 09:47:28 PM »
every election is the same.   Most conservatives on getbig as scared to commit to positions until after the candidate is decided.  They can't say how they feel about the friggin patriot act.  and they always try to tell us a RINO is the only one that can win.  08, 12, and probably 2016 too.

Replace positions with :

Issues
Policy
Candidate
etc..

and that statement will still be accurate.

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2015, 09:45:13 AM »
Ohio, New Mexico the Best Presidential Bellwethers
How all the states stack up over the past 30 elections
Kyle Kondik, Managing Editor, Sabato's Crystal Ball
June 11th, 2015

The Buckeye State, long recognized as perhaps the nation’s premier presidential swing state, deserves its status. In the 30 presidential elections since 1896, Ohio has correctly picked the winner 28 times.

Ohio has company at the top though — it beats out another top presidential swing state, New Mexico, by only a hair. Like Ohio, the Land of Enchantment has also only been incorrect twice, but because statehood arrived in 1912, its record is just 24-2, and thus it has a slightly lower batting average (92%) than Ohio (93%).

The other states with the best records since 1896 are Illinois and Nevada, which voted with the winner 26 of the last 30 elections. However, Illinois is not a particularly good predictor anymore, as it is now consistently several points more Democratic than the nation as whole (the same thing appears to be happening in New Mexico, which has the nation’s most Hispanic electorate and which also has become more reliably Democratic).

Another state that is not as reliable a predictor of the national mood as it used to be is Missouri, which The Economist rightly observed prior to the 2004 election had “an almost mythical reputation in American presidential politics” as a bellwether. That year, the Show Me State voted for George W. Bush, correctly picking the winner as it had in every election over the past century but one (1956, when it backed Adlai Stevenson over Dwight Eisenhower). But Missouri went against the grain and narrowly resisted Barack Obama despite his big win in 2008, and then it went comfortably for Mitt Romney in Obama’s second victory. The state now appears to be at least a few points more Republican than the nation as a whole.

Generally, the states with the worst records since 1896 are the states of the Deep South. This is no surprise. In the early 1900s, most southern states voted for Democratic losers before turning Republican, while occasionally supporting third-party candidates in the middle of the century. Of the 11 states of the old confederacy, only two — Peripheral South states Florida and Tennessee — have correctly picked more than 70% of the presidential winners since 1896. Meanwhile, the only two states with a sub-50% mark in the last 30 elections are the Deep South’s Alabama and Mississippi.

They are joined in the sub-.500 camp by the non-state that gets to cast electoral votes: Washington, DC. Since being granted presidential electors in time for the 1964 campaign, DC has had the same record of picking presidential winners (six of 13) as the party its voters have supported in all of its elections, the Democrats.

Maine and Vermont’s relatively poor records stem from the fact that they were the only two states to never support Franklin D. Roosevelt. It is unthinkable today to regard those states as being solidly Republican, but they once were. (Alaska and Hawaii never had the chance to back FDR because they weren’t states when he was on the ballot.)

Nearly half the states — 23 of 50 — are in the solid 70%-79% range, generally supporting the presidential winners while going against the grain a fair number of times. The record of the states since 1896 is reflected in Map 1 and Table 1.

Map 1 and Table 1: How often states have sided with the winner in presidential elections since 1896



Note: Numbers on map indicate each state’s current number of Electoral College votes.



Another argument for Ohio’s bellwether status is that its statewide vote has more closely mimicked the national vote than any other state for more than a century, according to Eric Ostermeier of the University of Minnesota’s Smart Politics blog.

Ohio’s misfires came in 1944, when in the midst of World War II it supported Thomas Dewey — whose running mate was Ohio Gov. John W. Bricker — by less than 12,000 votes over FDR, and in 1960, when it comfortably preferred Richard Nixon over John F. Kennedy, the very narrow national winner. Ever since 1960 — over half a century — Ohio, alone among its peers, has a perfect record in picking presidents.

New Mexico’s misfires are more recent: in 1976 it narrowly backed Gerald Ford in his close loss to Jimmy Carter as well as Al Gore in 2000 over George W. Bush. The 2000 margin — only 366 votes — was closer in terms of raw votes than Florida (won by Bush by 537 votes). Also, one could credibly argue that New Mexico did reflect national sentiment that year — it picked Gore, who won the national popular vote — but we’re grading the states by their support of the Electoral College winner, which was Bush.

If one just included the last century’s worth of results — the 25 elections going back to 1916 — Nevada would be the king, with just one miss since then (1976, when the state and the rest of the west backed Ford over Carter). Three of the Silver State’s four misfires over the last 30 elections were supporting William Jennings Bryan (D) in his unsuccessful White House bids in 1896, 1900, and 1908. The populist Bryan performed well in the Democratic Solid South and parts of the Mountain West in his campaigns but never came particularly close to winning the presidency.

The historical record is interesting, although using a metric based on more than 100 years’ worth of elections to determine which state will be the most predictive of the 2016 outcome isn’t the right way to go about it. The best predictor of the next election, for instance, might be a state with a below-average record over the past century: our home state of Virginia. After all, no state was closer to the national popular vote in the past two elections, although it’s possible that because of demographic changes — Virginia’s electorate is more diverse than the nation as a whole — the Old Dominion’s time as a bellwether could be fleeting.

http://www.centerforpolitics.org/crystalball/articles/ohio-new-mexico-the-best-presidential-bellwethers/

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« Reply #42 on: June 17, 2015, 10:03:50 AM »
But but but . . . he has four traffic tickets in eighteen years . . . .

Why Marco Rubio scares all other presidential candidates
By John Podhoretz
June 16, 2015


Ever get the feeling the candidate who is making other candidates worry the most is Marco Rubio? Your feeling is on the money.

On Sunday, Hillary Rodham Clinton relaunched her campaign, trying to tag Republicans by saying they are singing the old Beatles song “Yesterday” — a deliberate effort to turn Rubio’s own stinging charge in April that she was a “leader from yesterday” who “began a campaign for president by promising to take us back to yesterday” back on him.

Not to be outdone, on Monday, Jeb Bush officially began his run for the presidency with a passive-aggressive assault on Rubio that implicitly linked him with Hillary: “the Washington mess,” he said, cannot be cleaned up “by electing the people who either helped create it or have proven incapable of fixing it.”

Before Bush spoke at his own campaign event, a Jeb supporter named Don Graetz who worked with Rubio in the Florida state Senate was all aggressive and no passive — he referred to Jeb as “the Florida Republican who can win.” Guess who the Florida Republican who can’t win is supposed to be.

Bush’s event was deliberately Cuban in flavor and feeling, designed to try to neutralize what would appear to be Rubio’s natural advantage with the large number of Cubans who will vote Republican in that state’s crucial February primary.

Rubio might be the scion of an immigrant Cuban family, but Jeb speaks fluent Spanish and is a devoted convert to Catholicism, the faith professed by most Cuban-Americans.

The other unquestioned top-tier Republican candidate, Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker, has his own clever take on Rubio that seeks to take him down a peg while praising him.

Walker privately speaks admiringly of the Florida senator and says he’d be sure he’d want Rubio . . . as his own vice presidential running mate.
As the debates get closer, you can be sure that if Rubio remains at or near the top of the leader board, rivals will target him before anyone else — with particular emphasis on his immigration-liberalization flip-flop. (He was for it until it became clear it was a no-go with Republicans on Capitol Hill, so he basically turned on his own bill.)

What is it about Rubio that makes him seem so formidable? After all, he’s a first-term senator, he doesn’t have a list of accomplishments to recite, his first major appearance (in a State of the Union response) garnered giggles for his on-air guzzle from a bottle of Poland Spring, and he has a boyish mien that makes him seem even younger than his 44 years.

Yes, as a 44-year-old, he can lay a powerful claim to being a voice of the future — but then, so can Scott Walker, who’s only three years older and has a more impressive record of achievement.

Yes, as a Latino himself, he might be able to make the kind of inroads that will cut into the Democratic advantage with Hispanics, but as his launch demonstrated, Jeb Bush might be able to do so as well.

No, what makes Rubio so frightening to others is, simply, that he is a freakishly gifted politician — and a daring one.

He chose to challenge the sitting governor of Florida, Charlie Crist, for the Republican nomination for Senate in 2009 when Crist was at 60 percent in the polls and he was at 3 — and not only knocked Crist out of the GOP race but then beat him by 20 points when Crist ran as an independent in the general election.

It was an unprecedented triumph, like a rookie pitcher winning 25 games, and only another politician knows just how seriously he must take a rival like that.

But here’s the real thing about Rubio. I’ve listened to him and watched him talk, both in private sessions and on the Senate floor in speeches you can see on YouTube.

He is, without question, the most naturally gifted off-the-cuff political speaker I have ever seen.

His fluency on subjects ranging from conflicts in the South China Sea to flexible community-college credits is, quite simply, dazzling.

His rivals will go after him with the charge that this is all glibness — and they may score with the charge. He’s a talker, they will say; I’m a doer.

Still, most of campaigning is nothing but talk.

Speeches, interviews, debates; talk is what they do.

It’s better to be a good talker than a bad talker, and it stands to reason that it’s therefore better to be a surreally great talker than a good one.

I have no idea whether Rubio will prevail in the GOP primaries next year and I have no idea whether, if he does, he will beat Hillary. What is unquestionable is that she and other Republicans fear him above all others.

http://nypost.com/2015/06/16/why-marco-rubio-scares-all-other-presidential-candidates/

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #43 on: June 17, 2015, 10:05:54 AM »
Rubio vs. Clinton Race Tight in Florida, Ohio, Pa.: Quinnipiac

Image: Rubio vs. Clinton Race Tight in Florida, Ohio, Pa.: Quinnipiac (Scott Olson/Getty Images; Andrew Burton/Getty Images)
By Melanie Batley     
Wednesday, 17 Jun 2015

In a matchup with former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, Florida Sen. Marco Rubio does best among eight top GOP contenders in the three crucial swing states of Florida, Ohio and Pennsylvania, a new poll has found.

According to the Quinnipiac University poll conducted June 4-15, Clinton leads or is in too-close-to-call matchups in each state. The one exception is Ohio, where that state's governor, John Kasich, leads Clinton 47 percent to 40 percent.

In Florida, Clinton has 47 percent support, while Rubio has 44 percent.
In Ohio, Clinton has 45 percent, while Rubio draws 42 percent.
In Pennsylvania, Rubio has 44 percent, while Clinton gets 43 percent.

The poll also found that, by margins of 8 to 14 points, voters in each state say the Democratic front-runner is not honest and trustworthy.

"It's a long way until Election Day, but in the critical swing states of Florida, Ohio, and Pennsylvania, U.S. Sen. Marco Rubio of Florida has a tiny edge over the GOP field," Peter Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac poll, said in a statement.

"Most of the eight GOP hopefuls are within striking distance of Secretary Hillary Clinton in at least one of the three states."

The poll also found that Clinton's favorability ratings are 47-45 percent in Florida, a negative 44-48 percent in Ohio, and 46-48 percent in Pennsylvania.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/rubio-clinton-poll-florida/2015/06/17/id/650906/#ixzz3dL8fUXge

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Re: Election 2016
« Reply #44 on: June 17, 2015, 10:06:14 AM »
youre bending over backwards to defend rubio 24/7.   He's your #1 pick, huh?   I just think he'll rattle too easy.  I like candidated more seasoned with gravitas.  Rubio dribbles water when he's nervous - you don't get that with a rudy, huck, romney, jeb or a christie.  Rubio is too green.   seems like you love the dude tho, going so far out of your way to defend him.  

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« Reply #45 on: June 17, 2015, 10:19:22 AM »
youre bending over backwards to defend rubio 24/7.   He's your #1 pick, huh?   I just think he'll rattle too easy.  I like candidated more seasoned with gravitas.  Rubio dribbles water when he's nervous - you don't get that with a rudy, huck, romney, jeb or a christie.  Rubio is too green.   seems like you love the dude tho, going so far out of your way to defend him.  

This is why I ignore you, you dishonest troll.  lol

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« Reply #46 on: June 17, 2015, 11:08:06 AM »
This is why I ignore you, you dishonest troll.  lol

What did he say that was dishonest?

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« Reply #47 on: June 17, 2015, 12:21:41 PM »
What did he say that was dishonest?

Lately, repubs have a shitload of weak rino candidates, or crazy ass trump.  They can't defend not attack them. So hey attack other getbig members.  Easier than admitting they like or dislike trump and the liberal parade.   Coach still won't answer the qs I posted yesterday but has attacked me continually. 

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« Reply #48 on: June 17, 2015, 12:55:23 PM »
What did he say that was dishonest?

Pretty much everything he said (and typically says) is false, but the first two sentences are dishonest.

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« Reply #49 on: June 22, 2015, 12:33:04 PM »
Quinnipiac: Edge in Florida, Ohio Senate Races Goes to Democrats
By Loren Gutentag   
Monday, 22 Jun 2015

The 2016 Senate races are still in the early stages, but according a Quinnipiac University Swing State Poll released Monday, Democratic candidates hold small leads in Florida and Ohio.

Republican incumbent Sen. Pat Toomey is ahead in Pennsylvania in the Quinnipiac poll, despite a recent Washington Post analysis that gives Democrats a likely win in that state.

"All three swing states are expected to have very competitive U.S. Senate races. None of the candidates in Florida are well-known to voters, while the Pennsylvania and Ohio races involve candidates who have run statewide previously," said Peter A. Brown, assistant director of the Quinnipiac poll.

"Democrats hold an early edge in the Sunshine State, but no candidate from either party has much visibility at this point."

In possible matchups for the Senate race in Florida:
Democratic Rep. Patrick Murphy tops Republican Lt. Gov. Carlos Lopez-Cantera 40-28 percent.
Democratic Rep. Alan Grayson also bests Lopez-Cantera by 37-31 percent.
Murphy is ahead of Republican Rep. Ron DeSantis by 39-31 percent.
Grayson is also favored over DeSantis by 38-32 percent of those polled.

According the poll, however,  the candidates in Florida are largely unknown at this point, with the percentage of voters saying they knew little about them ranging from 62 percent for Grayson to 81 percent for the others.

"The U.S. Senate candidates in Florida," said Brown, "might want to put their pictures on milk cartons to increase their visibility."

In Ohio's Senate race, according to the Quinnipiac poll:
Former Gov. Ted Strickland, a Democrat, has a 46-40 percent lead over Sen. Rob Portman, a Republican who is up for re-election in 2016.
Portman tops Cincinnati City Council member P.G. Sittenfeld by a wide margin, 49-24 percent.
Portman has a 49-28 percent job approval and a 43-21 percent favorability rating, while Strickland gets a 47-29 percent favorability rating.
Eighty-five percent of voters said they haven’t heard enough about Sittenfeld to form an opinion.
Gov. John Kasich has a 60-30 percent job approval rating and U.S. Sen. Sherrod Brown a 50-31 percent job approval rating.

In Pennsylvania as in Ohio, the major candidates are well-known, Quinnipiac's Brown said.

The results for the Senate race in Pennsylvania are, at this point:
Republican incumbent Sen. Pat Toomey leads possible Democratic challenger Joe Sestak 47-36 percent in a rematch of the 2010 Senate race.
Toomey gets a 51-28 percent job approval rating and a 47-24 percent favorability rating.
Toomey is also preferred over another Democrat, Allentown Mayor Ed Pawlowski, by 52-28 percent of those polled.
Fifty-eight percent of voters said they haven’t heard enough about Sestak to form an opinion of him, and 85 percent haven’t heard enough about Pawlowski.
Pennsylvania voters also approve, 47-32 percent, of the job Democratic Gov. Tom Wolf is doing and give Sen. Robert Casey, also a Democrat, a 48-29 percent job approval rating.

But the polls are a still-early snapshot, and the "betting is that when Election Day comes all three of these Senate races will be close," Brown said.

The June 4-15 Quinnipiac poll surveyed 1,147 Florida voters with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.9 percentage points; 1,191 Ohio voters with a margin of error of plus or minus 2.8 percentage points; and 970 Pennsylvania voters with a margin of error of plus or minus 3.2 percentage points.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/senate-2016-races-florida/2015/06/22/id/651602/#ixzz3doyP0A2G