Dorian Yates was playing in another division!

[Royalty]

Yates looked very good on the European Grand Prix Tour in 1994

[njflex]

I was fullly immersed in  comp BBing when Dorian was in his prime..he's the champ from my generation.

and although i respected his mass, dryness, back etc...I always thought he was a tad over rated.  93 he looked insane, can't say a thing...94 not so much, i thought Ray was more complete.

 but the "politics" for alack of a better word, kept him  out of the winner's circle. by that I mean Dorian was dry as fuck and had this MONSTER back, that was his calling card.  great calves too, overdeveloped IMO...so all of the sudden...if you weren't dry as fuck and had a monster back...you were deemed lacking the complete package..it became the "Mr Back" competition. having great abs, arms, quads, chest... great lines... became irrelevant if you didn't have a three finger thick Xmas tree.  my opinion. echoed by many pros.  I remember watching MR O's and the announcers are bascially chit chatting until the rear DB and Lat spread, the they are HYPER critical...it's all that mattered.

95 he deserved it again...looked equine with the amount of dry mass he carried, overwhelming.

96 nope, 97 nope.

carry on...try not to insult me personally  LOL

good post,,thing with yates the lighter he was better,,90/91 noc he looked great smaller waist,legs carved and his arms were fitted better due to his back not quite overwhelming yet,,top it off with great calves and good delts/chest again fitted on a less developed lat torso..his 96 grand prix look is insane tho,,he always looked better pre and post olympia,,and his signature poses were impressive front/ rear lat spread/side tricep/and when he stomped leg/calf sideways and flexed on arm down and other across ...

[King Shizzo]

Yates looked very good on the European Grand Prix Tour in 1994

It was a travesty that he won a few of those titles though. I mean look at his left arm in that pic 

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[Palpatine Q]

good post,,thing with yates the lighter he was better,,90/91 noc he looked great smaller waist,legs carved and his arms were fitted better due to his back not quite overwhelming yet,,top it off with great calves and good delts/chest again fitted on a less developed lat torso..his 96 grand prix look is insane tho,,he always looked better pre and post olympia,,and his signature poses were impressive front/ rear lat spread/side tricep/and when he stomped leg/calf sideways and flexed on arm down and other across ...

x 6 billion

i think he only nailed it in 95 to be honest, missed by a little every other year

Also to add, it was like the deck was stacked...if someone DID show up with a sick back...then it was like "ahhh, but what about your calves ?"

like he became the template for what you had to bring...and you had to beat him by beating his strong points....yours didn't matter.

when I say "politics" that's what i mean

[Iceman1981]

I'll just leave this here. Ronnie's waist photoshopped?

[Grape Ape]

96 nope.

carry on...try not to insult me personally  LOL

No insults, but I went to the 96 O.   When everyone lined up, Nasser looked like he would challenge Yates and I heard that in the crowd.  When they turned around, Yates was so ridiculously better, I saw multiple people laugh and say "oops".

He just looked so much better than anyone in all the rear poses, and he owned the side tri.

[SF1900]

[obsidian]

It looks good on Dorian because his smaller arms and larger lats. Ronnie has larger arms and larger lats. Ronnie is just too overwhelming in that shot in 2003 and 2004. His quads are massive and make Dorian look amateurish. Ronnie is too much show ready.

While Ronnie was huge in 03/04 his proportions were off. His calves were not good and he had a weird turnip looking leg effect going on.

He looked much better at a lighter weight - see pic below.



This Pic of Dorian is insane and the best front lat spread ever imo.

[Automation]

Yates had an epic lean face...

[Royalty]

Another pic from the 1994 European GP tour

[Royalty]

I'll just leave this here. Ronnie's waist photoshopped?

They said that Ronnie's best pose was the the rear lat spread...

But I think that Ronnie best pose may have been the rear double bi

[Radical Plato]

Personally I think nobody has come close to Lee haney in terms of overall quality and aesthetics during the lat spread pose. Dorian lacked the upper chest development that really caps of Lee Haneys lat Spread.



This is pretty impressive though.

[King Shizzo]

Personally I think nobody has come close to Lee haney in terms of overall quality and aesthetics during the lat spread pose. Dorian lacked the upper chest development that really caps of Lee Haneys lat Spread.

I would love to be that steam.

[_bruce_]

Borian "Tren-odor" Gates was the most impressive bodybuilder of all time - face, physique and charisma was second to none.
He carried his muscle like no other.

Was he better than Ronnie?
Only a 100000+ page thread could resolve this issue.

[Palpatine Q]

i have changed my thinking over the years and actually look at them oppositely now....but still call it a draw.

Dorian is the symmetrical one, and looks more "of a piece" than Ronnie. he's not pretty, but he's better proportioned and fits together better than Ronnie.

Ronnie is just hanging muscle, it's ike he's a giant fkng penis. no fat, veins everywhere, solid muscle.

  look at head size, Ronnie had a big melon, Dorian kind of a bird face...and Ronnies body looks so much biggger, he's tremendous.   but the HUGE ronnie had no flow. he was like what Kai Greene wishes he was.  smaller Ronnie was better IMO, but stil not good enough to beat Dorian IMO,

 draw. every time.

[Radical Plato]

Dorian was great no doubt, but his lack of impressive arms kind of impacts on his overall impressiveness considering how vital well developed arms are in many poses (The lat spread being one of those poses you can take the focus away from under developed or poorly shaped arms.)  Granted Dorian makes up for it ten fold with his mind blowing calves, but I would wager that most men desire well developed arms over well developed calves, and Ronnie's upper arm development was second to none.

[Royalty]

Dorian was great no doubt, but his lack of impressive arms kind of impacts on his overall impressiveness considering how vital well developed arms are in many poses (The lat spread being one of those poses you can take the focus away from under developed or poorly shaped arms.)  Granted Dorian makes up for it ten fold with his mind blowing calves, but I would wager that most men desire well developed arms over well developed calves, and Ronnie's upper arm development was second to none.

Imagine if Yates had Mike Mattarazzo arms!

[Radical Plato]

Imagine if Yates had Mike Mattarazzo arms!

Without exception, the greatest physiques almost always have a slight noticeable flaw. Ronnie was his calves and easy to overlook, Dorian's was his arms and hard to hide.  They weren't too bad to begin with but not on par with the rest of his development, but after several injuries they looked like shit.

[Palpatine Q]

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Without exception, the greatest physiques almost always have a slight noticeable flaw. Ronnie was his calves and easy to overlook, Dorian's was his arms and hard to hide.  They went too bad to begin with but not on par with the rest of his development, but after several injuries they looked like shit.
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Also...97 was a GIFT for Dorian.. no way any objective person says he deserved to win.

Ronnie had a shaky decision or two ..but nothing like that.  and when it was late in his career and time for his gifts they fucked him over

[Royalty]

[q uote author=Radical Plato link=topic=569759.msg8003969#msg8003969 date=1428145605]
Without exception, the greatest physiques almost always have a slight noticeable flaw. Ronnie was his calves and easy to overlook, Dorian's was his arms and hard to hide.  They went too bad to begin with but not on par with the rest of his development, but after several injuries they looked like shit.



Also...97 was a GIFT for Dorian.. no way any objective person says he deserved to win.

Ronnie had a shaky decision or two ..but nothing like that.  and when it was late in his career and time for his gifts they fucked him over

Flex Wheeler was in the audience in 1997 (ninja attack)

Flex said that he felt that Nasser won

[NarcissisticDeity]

I'll just leave this here. Ronnie's waist photoshopped?

Not sure who wrote that but seriously?

[NarcissisticDeity]

Yates looked very good on the European Grand Prix Tour in 1994

Much better than the Olympia

[NarcissisticDeity]

 

[SF1900]

Now you all made ND pissed and he is frantically going to start posting thousands of images of Dorian!