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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #75 on: April 26, 2016, 06:28:27 AM »
The assbunny tool is cliche and MOS is heading for a tragic fall.

Anyone SO invested and convinced in fantasy is balancing dangerously on a cliff.

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #76 on: April 26, 2016, 06:37:55 AM »
The assbunny tool is cliche and MOS is heading for a tragic fall.

Anyone SO invested and convinced in fantasy is balancing dangerously on a cliff.

Atheists have been saying I'm heading for a fall or a breakdown since about 2011 and yet here we are in 2016 going strong.  Sooooo.....

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #77 on: April 26, 2016, 06:40:46 AM »
The assbunny tool is cliche and MOS is heading for a tragic fall.

Anyone SO invested and convinced in fantasy is balancing dangerously on a cliff.

MOS is a big boy and understands people are fallible.

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #78 on: April 26, 2016, 06:45:59 AM »


Of course you will continue to deny it.  You just don't see what there is to be afraid of.  Not yet.  Nothing is as terrifying as nothing.  All the best!


. Nothingness is not an experience, the only thing you can do is experience, nothingness won't be an experience, it's the lack of one, which is impossible.


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« Reply #79 on: April 26, 2016, 06:53:07 AM »
. Nothingness is not an experience, the only thing you can do is experience, nothingness won't be an experience, it's the lack of one, which is impossible.



Isn't it possible nothingness presents itself between typical experiences but we lack the ability for its perception?

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #80 on: April 26, 2016, 11:59:25 AM »
Isn't it possible nothingness presents itself between typical experiences but we lack the ability for its perception?

I would say it is, but an experience is something, which means it's something not nothing. Nothingness is impossible to imagine even.

Everything in life is about polarity, however, nothingness seems to not exist, which is really interesting, it's paradoxical.




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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #81 on: April 26, 2016, 12:06:50 PM »
. Nothingness is not an experience, the only thing you can do is experience, nothingness won't be an experience, it's the lack of one, which is impossible.

I agree. We don't experience it. We just die.

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #82 on: April 26, 2016, 01:06:38 PM »
Taylor is pleased that threads which start out being about him go in a religious direction, like he has.

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #83 on: April 26, 2016, 01:07:14 PM »
I would say it is, but an experience is something, which means it's something not nothing. Nothingness is impossible to imagine even.

Everything in life is about polarity, however, nothingness seems to not exist, which is really interesting, it's paradoxical.


Interesting bit on nothing:
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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #84 on: April 26, 2016, 01:23:39 PM »
Hello All,

I would like to respond to a couple of questions/comments made in this thread.

First, of course, I want to thank my Brother in Christ Man of Steel for all the love he has been putting into this thread.

Secondly, someone asked about where I work. I am working in dispatch for a HVAC company while I work on my Masters.

Third, someone inquired about whether I still feel attraction towards men. The answer is that I very rarely ever feel any of those things anymore.

Fourth, I would like to say a couple things about being a Christian, not judging, and sharing the Gospel. Some of you expressed the sentiment that Christians should just display the love of God through our behavior instead of through our speech. I agree with you all that we should be displaying the love of Jesus through our behavior, and by living a quiet life with integrity. However, we should ALSO share the love of God with other people VERBALLY. The fact of the matter is that all the good behavior in the world will never lead a person to God. One must actually receive Christ to benefit from His sacrifice. Now, on the subject of not "judging." Let me ask you... if I see a man about to be hit by a locomotive, would I be judging him for shouting out "Hey, get out of the way of that train!" No, I would be warning him of impending doom.

Christ is, whether you believe it or not, the Son of God, Savior of the world, and source of all love and beauty in the universe. There is no way for sinful man to approach infinite God without the atoning sacrifice of Christ working on their behalf.



It is human nature to want to share what one feels good about. As long as it is just sharing and not preaching, most folks are fine with this. A wise man will allow that others may want to find their own way to peace and happiness. Sometimes you talk as if everyone should follow you because you've seen the light. Some people find this offensive.

You say that you rarely ever feel those things now, which could be taken to mean you've become asexual. Did you mean to say you rarely feel sexual desire for men or that you no longer act on this attraction? It is hard for me to understand how one can alter something as innate as sexual attraction/orientation. Contrary to what many people believe, being gay is not a choice.  

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #85 on: April 26, 2016, 03:23:59 PM »
It is human nature to want to share what one feels good about. As long as it is just sharing and not preaching, most folks are fine with this. A wise man will allow that others may want to find their own way to peace and happiness. Sometimes you talk as if everyone should follow you because you've seen the light. Some people find this offensive.

You say that you rarely ever feel those things now, which could be taken to mean you've become asexual. Did you mean to say you rarely feel sexual desire for men or that you no longer act on this attraction? It is hard for me to understand how one can alter something as innate as sexual attraction/orientation. Contrary to what many people believe, being gay is not a choice.  

The preaching is good news and a warning.  Believers often refer to it as a message of grace and wrath.   Our testimonies are about spiritual evidence of lives changed by Jesus Christ for purposes of consideration by nonbelievers.  You aren't following the believer, you're following Christ.  

For some folks any mention of Jesus, the bible, scripture, church, etc....is "preaching".   When most folks tell me things like this (nicely) they're basically saying "shut up" LOL.  Sorry, I'm more direct these days.

God can deliver men from sins and change your mind completely about sin so that we no longer walk in willful sin and our consciences remain clear.  We're to take every word and thought captive and it's possible with the Holy Spirit.  If a woman bends over I often look away.  If I see an attractive woman I take any potential lust captive...sometimes I pray about it.  I devout my sex life to my wife...that simply really.   The argument that we're innately sexual and need to satisfy those desires is intertwined with our sinful natures.  There's a time and place for sex, but giving into every sexual thought and whim is not God's way.

We speak on these things so those that want to know more or align themselves with God have the opportunity.  The VAST majority of the time the only folks speaking are the atheists.  Most want to belittle, challenge and thwart believers and make us feel small.....sometimes they're successful.


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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #86 on: April 26, 2016, 05:22:11 PM »
The preaching is good news and a warning.

Or, more accurately, a threat: "Believe or else!"


For some folks any mention of Jesus, the bible, scripture, church, etc....is "preaching".   When most folks tell me things like this (nicely) they're basically saying "shut up" LOL.  Sorry, I'm more direct these days.

So you shouldn't be surprised when people are equally direct in response to you, and tell you exactly what they think of your beliefs.


If a woman bends over I often look away. If I see an attractive woman I take any potential lust captive...sometimes I pray about it.

That's as sad as the Pastor that won't ride in a car with a female... like him, you've imprisoned yourself in a cage of your own making - a cage of fear and guilt - because you're terrified that you'll lose control or have a single errant thought.


I devout my sex life to my wife...that simply really.

That is commendable.


The argument that we're innately sexual and need to satisfy those desires is intertwined with our sinful natures.  There's a time and place for sex, but giving into every sexual thought and whim is not God's way.

Who's giving into every sexual thought? In fact who is, apparently, unable to see a female without being inundated with sexual thought to the point that they need to look away or avoid sharing a car? I see hundreds of women every day at the University, and all without getting any sexual thoughts and I'm a healthy, heterosexual male.

Funny how that is...

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #87 on: April 26, 2016, 06:43:10 PM »
. Nothingness is not an experience, the only thing you can do is experience, nothingness won't be an experience, it's the lack of one, which is impossible.



Not really, but if that is what you choose to believe so be it.  None of us know what to expect.  We can hope or even pray but no one really knows.  People claim they are not afraid of dying.  Right.  Fear is an overwhelming emotion, perhaps more so than love or even the drive to reproduce after our own kind.  Nothing evokes a reaction quite like fear. And the fear and hope of nothing is far from comforting.   

It is the choice of more than a few people.  Nothing at all wrong with that.

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #88 on: April 26, 2016, 06:45:29 PM »
Well, seeing how I'm not afraid of dying at all...


Nothing to do with testosterone. Just being rational. Why would I be afraid of death? It's a natural and inescapable part of our life. I'm afraid of dying a painful death, or a pronolonged death. But death itself? No.


Or I genuinely don't see anything to be afraid of. Novel concept, I know...


I don't. One moment, I'll be alive, and the next I won't. Just like how one moment I wasn't alive and then I was.


If that's what  you're afraid, then that's what you're afraid. But don't project your fears on me.

Its your belief, not mine and I choose not to believe in it as you have done with Jesus of Nazareth.  Not a problem, really.

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #89 on: April 26, 2016, 08:01:24 PM »
Its your belief, not mine and I choose not to believe in it as you have done with Jesus of Nazareth.  Not a problem, really.

What, exactly, is my belief?

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #90 on: April 27, 2016, 06:49:50 AM »
so T-bombz is full on gay guy now?


btw--there is no such thing as "bi" for a man...."bi" is just "having one foot in the closet" or "I'm really a full on gay but I'm still afraid of the stigma of being full on gay"

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #91 on: April 27, 2016, 08:48:11 AM »
Or, more accurately, a threat: "Believe or else!"


So you shouldn't be surprised when people are equally direct in response to you, and tell you exactly what they think of your beliefs.


That's as sad as the Pastor that won't ride in a car with a female... like him, you've imprisoned yourself in a cage of your own making - a cage of fear and guilt - because you're terrified that you'll lose control or have a single errant thought.


That is commendable.


Who's giving into every sexual thought? In fact who is, apparently, unable to see a female without being inundated with sexual thought to the point that they need to look away or avoid sharing a car? I see hundreds of women every day at the University, and all without getting any sexual thoughts and I'm a healthy, heterosexual male.

Funny how that is...


Actually it's abstain from sin or else.   Engage in sin and then faithful belief in Christ's salvific work is the only way to be redeemed and forgiven of sin.

I'm not.....speaking to folks for years.

Just living according to God's standards......avoiding lust, adultery and honoring my wife.  I give glory to God for the change in me.

People think about sex, lust and adulterous behavior everyday.  Men and women lust for each other every single day.  Millions worldwide engage in adulterous sex every single day.  Who does this stuff?  Almost every friend I've ever had (and myself) LOL.    Our culture is so addicted to pornography and casual sex it's ridiculous.  Look at Time magazine's current article on the effects of pornography today.  Even the adoption of Bluray as the HD digital media of choice was contingent upon the response of the pornography industry to it.  We have pharmaceuticals dedicated to the effects of rampant sexual behavior.  We have therapy groups dedicated to sexual addicts.   Infidelity is still one of the primary causes of divorce and divorce is on the rise.  "Friends with benefits" is a cute little phrase among kids and young adults today....hey YOLO!!   We have worldwide rampant prostitution and sexual trafficking. We have awards shows dedicated to pornographic materials.  Cases of sexually transmitted diseases have been rising steadily over the last decade.  All these topics and more are a Google away.

But it all feels good so we justify our sexual apetites....it's always the other guy's issue and never our own.  

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #92 on: April 27, 2016, 09:20:57 AM »
Actually it's abstain from sin or else.   Engage in sin and then faithful belief in Christ's salvific work is the only way to be redeemed and forgiven of sin.

It's not just "abstain from sin or else" because even if you abstain from sin completely, that's still not good enough according to your religion - you're born with original sin. Faith in Christ is the cornerstone of Christianity. So yes, it really is "Believe! Or else!"


People think about sex, lust and adulterous behavior everyday.  Men and women lust for each other every single day.  Millions worldwide engage in adulterous sex every single day.  Who does this stuff?  Almost every friend I've ever had (and myself) LOL.    Our culture is so addicted to pornography and casual sex it's ridiculous.  Look at Time magazine's current article on the effects of pornography today.  Even the adoption of Bluray as the HD digital media of choice was contingent upon the response of the pornography industry to it.  We have pharmaceuticals dedicated to the effects of rampant sexual behavior.  We have therapy groups dedicated to sexual addicts.   Infidelity is still one of the primary causes of divorce and divorce is on the rise.  "Friends with benefits" is a cute little phrase among kids and young adults today....hey YOLO!!   We have worldwide rampant prostitution and sexual trafficking. We have awards shows dedicated to pornographic materials.  Cases of sexually transmitted diseases have been rising steadily over the last decade.  All these topics and more are a Google away.

But it all feels good so we justify our sexual apetites....it's always the other guy's issue and never our own.  

Nobody is arguing that sex isn't a big industry or that views haven't shifted and as a result a lot more people are having casual sex and doing so in ways that many (most even) may consider deviant. Nobody is arguing that pornography isn't more readily accessible and more "diverse" for lack of a better term.

But what does this have to do with point at hand? Namely that there exist people who are so terrified of losing control at the mere presence of a woman in situations completely devoid of sexual tension – like getting a ride home because the car is in the shop – that they won't even allow themselves to be alone with one.


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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #93 on: April 27, 2016, 09:30:10 AM »
T-Bombz & Those yummy, crème-filled commandments

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #94 on: April 27, 2016, 09:36:55 AM »
Actually it's abstain from sin or else.   Engage in sin and then faithful belief in Christ's salvific work is the only way to be redeemed and forgiven of sin.

I'm not.....speaking to folks for years.

Just living according to God's standards......avoiding lust, adultery and honoring my wife.  I give glory to God for the change in me.

People think about sex, lust and adulterous behavior everyday.  Men and women lust for each other every single day.  Millions worldwide engage in adulterous sex every single day.  Who does this stuff?  Almost every friend I've ever had (and myself) LOL.    Our culture is so addicted to pornography and casual sex it's ridiculous.  Look at Time magazine's current article on the effects of pornography today.  Even the adoption of Bluray as the HD digital media of choice was contingent upon the response of the pornography industry to it.  We have pharmaceuticals dedicated to the effects of rampant sexual behavior.  We have therapy groups dedicated to sexual addicts.   Infidelity is still one of the primary causes of divorce and divorce is on the rise.  "Friends with benefits" is a cute little phrase among kids and young adults today....hey YOLO!!   We have worldwide rampant prostitution and sexual trafficking. We have awards shows dedicated to pornographic materials.  Cases of sexually transmitted diseases have been rising steadily over the last decade.  All these topics and more are a Google away.

But it all feels good so we justify our sexual apetites....it's always the other guy's issue and never our own.  

Yeah, I know what you mean...

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #95 on: April 27, 2016, 11:12:57 AM »
Not really, but if that is what you choose to believe so be it.  None of us know what to expect.  We can hope or even pray but no one really knows.  People claim they are not afraid of dying.  Right.  Fear is an overwhelming emotion, perhaps more so than love or even the drive to reproduce after our own kind.  Nothing evokes a reaction quite like fear. And the fear and hope of nothing is far from comforting.   

It is the choice of more than a few people.  Nothing at all wrong with that.

no really, you can't experience without experience organs, I stab you in the eye you don't see, you are dead you cannot perceived.

I am not afraid to die, seems odd to fear something that will happen

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« Reply #96 on: April 27, 2016, 12:14:39 PM »
The preaching is good news and a warning.  Believers often refer to it as a message of grace and wrath.   Our testimonies are about spiritual evidence of lives changed by Jesus Christ for purposes of consideration by nonbelievers.  You aren't following the believer, you're following Christ.  

For some folks any mention of Jesus, the bible, scripture, church, etc....is "preaching".   When most folks tell me things like this (nicely) they're basically saying "shut up" LOL.  Sorry, I'm more direct these days.

God can deliver men from sins and change your mind completely about sin so that we no longer walk in willful sin and our consciences remain clear.  We're to take every word and thought captive and it's possible with the Holy Spirit.  If a woman bends over I often look away.  If I see an attractive woman I take any potential lust captive...sometimes I pray about it.  I devout my sex life to my wife...that simply really.   The argument that we're innately sexual and need to satisfy those desires is intertwined with our sinful natures.  There's a time and place for sex, but giving into every sexual thought and whim is not God's way.

We speak on these things so those that want to know more or align themselves with God have the opportunity.  The VAST majority of the time the only folks speaking are the atheists.  Most want to belittle, challenge and thwart believers and make us feel small.....sometimes they're successful.



Your simile that someone who tells you that they are not interested in your "message" is tantamount to telling you to shut up is somewhat accurate. My Parents taught me that saying "shut up" to someone is rude, therefore I try to avoid this term. So when someone representing a religious group knocks on my door to deliver they're message, I politely tell them that I am not interested. Anyone who "spreads the word" is essentially preaching. This is what missionaries do. When they say to me that their way is the only way, I find this extremely offensive. It is like they are calling me stupid, which is also rude.

Just so you know, if you were not innately sexual, you could not honestly devote your sex life to your wife. When your wife "bends over" or otherwise presents herself to you in an invitational manner, do you look away shunning any lust you might feel for her? Hopefully you do not.

I can say with a very clear conscience that I have no interest in belittling you or making you feel small, as you put it. If I want to hear your message, let me seek you out, don't just assume that I am interested or that I am a sinner for believing differently than you. When you do this, you belittle me. Let me just say that I am happy that you have found your way. This doesn't mean I accept that your beliefs are the only valid ones.

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #97 on: April 27, 2016, 12:29:45 PM »
so T-bombz is full on gay guy now?


btw--there is no such thing as "bi" for a man...."bi" is just "having one foot in the closet" or "I'm really a full on gay but I'm still afraid of the stigma of being full on gay"

Do you have a term for someone who enjoys sexual relations equally with women as with men? How about someone who is able to romantically love someone regardless of their gender?

For the most part people are more enlightened and accepting of differing sexuality then they were a decade or so ago. There's little reason for most people living in westernized countries to be "in the closet" even if it is only one foot in and one foot out. Is there a stigma with being gay? Only to those who are homophobic in some manner.

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #98 on: April 27, 2016, 12:34:12 PM »
Do you have a term for someone who enjoys sexual relations equally with women as with men? How about someone who is able to romantically love someone regardless of their gender?

For the most part people are more enlightened and accepting of differing sexuality then they were a decade or so ago. There's little reason for most people living in westernized countries to be "in the closet" even if it is only one foot in and one foot out. Is there a stigma with being gay? Only to those who are homophobic in some manner.

Stigma?

Well, there's the whole sucking on a cockadoodle thing.

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Re: TBOMBZ & The Ten Commandments
« Reply #99 on: April 27, 2016, 12:39:39 PM »
Stigma?

Well, there's the whole sucking on a cockadoodle thing.

I take it this means you are homophobic.

"Cockadoodle" -what a funny term. It sounds like some kind of lolly pop, which is usually sucked.  ;D