Trump = Winning

[Necrosis]

Again:

What problem is it solving? lol

can either of you answer anything I post or will it just be me reacting to your posts?

optics, is that the answer? so you admit the actual reason for the bill being pushed isn't true?

[Necrosis]

Chaos, let me help

Hearsay is an out-of-court statement offered in court to prove the truth of the matter asserted, generally considered unreliable and inadmissible as evidence. It involves a witness testifying about something they heard another person say, rather than personal knowledge

Ok so are claims against trump in the files by the people who were assaulted, heresay?

Heresay also doesn't factor into scientific discussion, the data is there to look at lol. It's not opinion, we can test the veracity of the claims made, objectively.

I know this shits out of your element but there is no point in persisting in foolishness.

I like that you guys are in tandem as well, shows team spirit.

[chaos]

Negrosis,
  Let me help:

hear·say
[ˈhɪəseɪ]

noun
hearsay (noun)
information received from other people which cannot be substantiated; rumour:

  I see you skipped answering my question. Typical.

[Grape Ape]

What problem is it solving? lol

can either of you answer anything I post or will it just be me reacting to your posts?

optics, is that the answer? so you admit the actual reason for the bill being pushed isn't true?

Restoring integrity to our elections and making them more secure, building confidence in the process with Americans, utilizing common sense.

[chaos]

What problem is it solving? lol

By confirming that people that are voting in our elections are actually citizens of this country?
You keep asking the same stupid question over and over again, are you acoustic?

[Necrosis]

By confirming that people that are voting in our elections are actually citizens of this country?
You keep asking the same stupid question over and over again, are you acoustic?

You think I dont recall most every post we have exchanged? you doubt I know that you know??

But what you are already doing does that, why change? You invented a problem, it's already solved.

So I ask what problem is it solving. Now, I know you want to just say the same thing but resist. I am asking about ACTUAL problems.

what you are doing is saying way too many folks are dying from car accidents, we need more safety! meanwhile its down 4000%. The solution you are offering is like strapping 19 more seatbelts on when 1 works just as well as 19 would, it doesn't solve any problem.

I then ask, what problem does the extra 19 seatbelts solve, you said safety and autoaccident fatality. I point out that 1 seatbelt works just as well. I then ask again what does the extra 19 seatbelts solve ( this is the save act here, we are here)

AND YOU SAY....

[Grape Ape]

But what you are already doing does that, why change? You invented a problem, it's already solved.

This is what you say.

It's not how many Americans feel.

Key recent findings as of March 2026:

A UC San Diego Center for Transparent and Trusted Elections survey (conducted late 2025/early 2026, reported Feb 2026) found 60% of respondents confident that votes in the 2026 midterms will be counted accurately nationwide. This implies 40% are not fully confident (a 17-point drop from 77% confident right after the 2024 presidential election). Trust declined across parties: Republicans -17 points, Democrats -13 points, independents -16 points.

An NPR/PBS News/Marist College poll (March 2026) showed 66% confident that state/local governments can run fair elections in November 2026, down from 76% in October 2024. This implies 34% lack confidence. Confidence dropped notably among Democrats and independents.

[Necrosis]

Negrosis,
  Let me help:

  I see you skipped answering my question. Typical.

I did in fact answer it.

[Necrosis]

Restoring integrity to our elections and making them more secure, building confidence in the process with Americans, utilizing common sense.

what part does that?

[chaos]

what part does that?

At this point you have to be trolling. Or completely fucking retarded. Take your pick.

[chaos]

You think I dont recall most every post we have exchanged? you doubt I know that you know??

But what you are already doing does that, why change? You invented a problem, it's already solved.

No it doesn't. You really can't be this dumb can you? Aren't you supposed to be in the medical field?

[Grape Ape]

At this point you have to be trolling. Or completely fucking retarded. Take your pick.

Yeah.

"Adding and an ID requirement will help Americans feel our elections are more secure"

"How does adding an ID help that"?

[Necrosis]

No it doesn't. You really can't be this dumb can you? Aren't you supposed to be in the medical field?

what evidence that is not drivel supports your claim?

There is zero credible evidence. Voter ID will stop people from searching stuff on google and having their opinions swayed? lol.

[Necrosis]

At this point you have to be trolling. Or completely fucking retarded. Take your pick.

Lets have a look. Lets learn together!

Primary Purposes and Goals
Mandate Proof of Citizenship: The Act requires that individuals provide specific documentation—such as a passport, birth certificate, or REAL ID-compliant photo ID that shows citizenship—to register or re-register to vote.

-why is this needed? to stop non-citizens from voting


Enhance Election Security: Supporters, primarily Republicans, argue the measure prevents non-citizens from voting in federal elections, increasing confidence in election integrity.

-- cool, i wonder how big of a problem it is


Standardize Federal Registration: It aims to establish a uniform, national standard for voter registration, rather than relying on the current, more varied state-by-state systems.

- oh to centralize the power


Remove Non-Citizens from Voter Rolls: The Act includes provisions for states to remove potential non-citizens from existing voter registration lists.

-- oh i wonder how big a problem it is.


I am for voter ID, I think it makes sense, its not solving any obvious problem, all the data says there is no issue at all. So roll something out slowly that doesn't cause issues. Any piece of identification would be fine. However, it doesn't appear like it will do anything as there isn't a problem with non-citizens voting.  i believe upwards of 35 states have voter id or forms accepted? there is no difference between those states and states that dont/

[Primemuscle]

Amount to nothing?

It literally lists the elections swayed by Google.

And uses data to back it up.

Do you dispute it?

People should not believe everything they are told regardless of whether it came from one single person, politicians, or media corporations.  Sheep do this and look where it gets them.

[chaos]

Lets have a look. Lets learn together!

Primary Purposes and Goals
Mandate Proof of Citizenship: The Act requires that individuals provide specific documentation—such as a passport, birth certificate, or REAL ID-compliant photo ID that shows citizenship—to register or re-register to vote.

-why is this needed? to stop non-citizens from voting


Enhance Election Security: Supporters, primarily Republicans, argue the measure prevents non-citizens from voting in federal elections, increasing confidence in election integrity.

-- cool, i wonder how big of a problem it is

If you would look into it maybe you would see. The link I posted showed thousands of illegals registered to vote through a "glitch" in the licensing system in just a couple of cities, imagine across the country. Why weren't they removed from voter rolls? I wonder what a federal audit of voter rolls would show?
Are illegals voting? Well in CA every election every registered voter gets a ballot mailed to them. Wonder how many illegals are registered to vote in sanctuary CA under Newsom? I wonder how many of those registered to vote illegal aliens fill out and return their ballots? I wonder how many of them give or sell them to other people that fill them out and return them?
Guess it's not worth looking in to because Negrosis from canada says there is no evidence. 

People should not believe everything they are told regardless of whether it came from one single person, politicians, or media corporations.  Sheep do this and look where it gets them.

Voting democrat.

[Necrosis]

If you would look into it maybe you would see. The link I posted showed thousands of illegals registered to vote through a "glitch" in the licensing system in just a couple of cities, imagine across the country. Why weren't they removed from voter rolls? I wonder what a federal audit of voter rolls would show?
Are illegals voting? Well in CA every election every registered voter gets a ballot mailed to them. Wonder how many illegals are registered to vote in sanctuary CA under Newsom? I wonder how many of those registered to vote illegal aliens fill out and return their ballots? I wonder how many of them give or sell them to other people that fill them out and return them?
Guess it's not worth looking in to because Negrosis from canada says there is no evidence. 
Voting democrat.

Dude there is no credible evidence. Every reputable source, the government, think tanks and political trackers all produce the same data.

It's not me saying it its your own country ffs.

It's also moronic, if I was an illegal the last thing I would do is risk being caught like putting my name into public record with the possibility of being scrutinized, particularly with the oversight that is occurring.

I see you are into alternative facts.

[Humble Narcissist]

Dude there is no credible evidence. Every reputable source, the government, think tanks and political trackers all produce the same data.

It's not me saying it its your own country ffs.

It's also moronic, if I was an illegal the last thing I would do is risk being caught like putting my name into public record with the possibility of being scrutinized, particularly with the oversight that is occurring.

I see you are into alternative facts.

If it doesn't happen why so against passing the law?

[chaos]

Dude there is no credible evidence. Every reputable source, the government, think tanks and political trackers all produce the same data.

It's not me saying it its your own country ffs.

It's also moronic, if I was an illegal the last thing I would do is risk being caught like putting my name into public record with the possibility of being scrutinized, particularly with the oversight that is occurring.

I see you are into alternative facts.

If it's not a problem, then what's the big deal then why are you against proving you're a citizen? Where are your links to the double blind peer reviewed studies showing that it's not a problem?

[Necrosis]

If it doesn't happen why so against passing the law?

I am not in theory I am in this iteration.

The law solves a problem that doesn't apparently exist and creates several new ones. About 35% have a real id, that means that the rest will have to have a drivers license and birth certificate or passport (the other options are esoteric) with the same name, women will have issues with this if its enacted rapidly without grace periods. Poor folks likely dont have their birth certificate and 200 bucks to buy a passport just to vote (cus they aint travelling) seems steep for a fictitious problem.

I wouldn't be for fucking around getting a name change on my birth certificate which could take fucking forever just so I can vote. The timing would mean that I could not vote by midterms.

Everything I am saying is logical. It's just that there is an ulterior motive here.
Why would trump say they would never lose another election? illegals aren't voting.

[Necrosis]

If it's not a problem, then what's the big deal then why are you against proving you're a citizen? Where are your links to the double blind peer reviewed studies showing that it's not a problem?

So this right here shows your ignorance.

A double blinded study on illegal voting? how would that work? one group with no illegals vote and the other is packed with illegals to see which one has more illegals?

No one knows who the illegals are (blinded) so when you see the outcome you can smell the illegal off the voting machine?

Stop with this stupid shit.

Your links suck cock, your rationale is pitiful and you are making no sense. Take a step back and think about what you are saying. I am not saying let everyone vote 100 times or anything outlandish. There are serious problems with the bill as it stands and it's clearly a power grab.

[chaos]

I am not in theory I am in this iteration.

The law solves a problem that doesn't apparently exist and creates several new ones. About 35% have a real id, that means that the rest will have to have a drivers license and birth certificate or passport (the other options are esoteric) with the same name, women will have issues with this if its enacted rapidly without grace periods. Poor folks likely dont have their birth certificate and 200 bucks to buy a passport just to vote (cus they aint travelling) seems steep for a fictitious problem.

I wouldn't be for fucking around getting a name change on my birth certificate which could take fucking forever just so I can vote. The timing would mean that I could not vote by midterms.

Everything I am saying is logical. It's just that there is an ulterior motive here.
Why would trump say they would never lose another election? illegals aren't voting.

OK, let's be serious for a minute.....in the US we have had 20 YEARS to get a REAL ID, sounds like 65% are lazy fucks. Although a simple google search shows more than 50% of people that require an ID have a REAL ID....so there's a discrepancy that I'm sure you'll ignore.
You keep going to the id, birth certificate and passport BS, you realize a person only needs one of those to register to vote right? There is no "your id has to match your birth certificate" clause, that's just made up BS from your side. It's obvious you aren't married or you would know how the name change thing works. LOL @ poor folks don't have their birth certificates. Definitely some shit leftists say.

Not everyone has or needs a passport so I won't go there.

Is that clear enough for you, Retardosis?

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illegals aren't voting.

Maybe you missed this:

https://nypost.com/2026/03/16/us-news/illegal-immigrants-from-africa-india-and-china-are-voting-in-us-elections-heres-how-theyre-doing-it/

As the issue of election security ramps up in Congress with the SAVE Act, Sacko’s arrest was one of nearly a dozen uncovered by The Post of non-citizens allegedly voting in US elections, sometimes for decades, with many remaining listed as active voters on state rolls, even after their convictions.

“The reality is aliens are voting in American elections,” J. Christian Adams, president of Public Interest Legal Foundation, who has spent decades working on election integrity, told The Post, noting no one is quite sure how widespread the problem is.

[chaos]

Maybe you missed this:

https://nypost.com/2026/03/16/us-news/illegal-immigrants-from-africa-india-and-china-are-voting-in-us-elections-heres-how-theyre-doing-it/

That's not credible evidence, he needs a double blind peer reviewed study. Or a cnn/nbc/facebook post/twitter meme to fact check against.

[Necrosis]

Maybe you missed this:

https://nypost.com/2026/03/16/us-news/illegal-immigrants-from-africa-india-and-china-are-voting-in-us-elections-heres-how-theyre-doing-it/

It;s in direct contradiction with the data released by all reputable sources that actually sorted through the data and gave clear metrics.

Again, I am not against it but you have yet you outline why this disenfranchising all these people is a good thing in such a short period of time and according to actual sources not news investigations (like that retard at the somali daycares) there is no reason to expedite the process.