Bostin Loyd done?

[mphgrove]

Sorry - Google Bostin Loyd mother if video does not come up.

[ProudVirgin69]

If he had acute renal failure he would feel it. He said he felt great, so you have to go with that which would align with chronic renal failure as his body has adapted to the toxins over time. Most don't even know they are at that stage until they have been their a while. Once he starts to lose his appetite or potassium climbs, it's game over.

And it is entirely possible for him to fry himself in 5 years. Grams upon grams of AAS, synthol and maybe a genetic predisposition. With the availability of AAS and the non stop cycles guys run now, this kidney thing will be an epidemic soon. But he's living in denial right now thinking he can just lower the dose and be okay. He would need to come off completely, lose 50 pounds, lower protein drastically, not workout and then hope for the best.

If your kidneys are failing you feel like shit period.  The body doesn't really "adapt" to the electrolyte imbalances, fluid overload, azotemia, and everything else that comes with it - be it stemming from an acute kidney injury or chronic progression of renal disease.  I don't really expect Bostin to be forthright about how he's feeling, so speculating on that is dumb

Is it possible to develop chronic kidney disease in 5 years? Maybe but it's unlikely .. assuming the labs posted above are actually his, it's far more likely that the high BUN/creatinine is from some type of AKI. 

Anythings possible though

[liquid_c]

Actually after doing an internet search, those don't appear to be his bloods.  I noticed a few of the values "ranges that were considered normal" were off so it appears it is from a vet clinic somewhere.  Like I though, he would be in the hospital right now if that was his real bloodwork.

[hipolito mejia]

If he gets off the sauce the girlfriend will leave with his muscles , unless she has changed which will be interesting.

[pellius]

Thats kidney failure numbers. He will require dialysis or transplant now

You do not have a clue what you are talking about. "Require dialysis or transplant now. " oh brother.

[Taffin]

[_aj_]

Haha

[wes]

This kids an idiot.

[Van_Bilderass]

Speaking of bad blood work, remember Piana's ex on here, how she said Piana had some blood work done and it was alarming, kidney and liver values way off. The doc said he needed additional tests to see what's going on but Rich never went back nor stopped drugging. This was naybe 10 years ago? And dude is still standing.

Found it

Rich doesnt have health insurance & he thinks he is superman and never gets sicks, etc. Well last year he was really sick & it is unlike him to stay in bed for days, not train & to cancel on his clients. So I was worried, I was in FL & I flew to CA & I brought him to the ER. Long story short he was at UCLA for almost 2 weeks, his appendix burst & he was walking around like that for 2 weeks before I flew down & took him to ER. Since he doesnt have insurance he seriously hadent been to the dr, not even for a physical in over 20 years so when they did some basic testing, scans & blood work he was in for a rude awakening. OMG. Majot kidney and liver problems, his heart is obviously enlarged & he was given strict instructions and follow up orders, etc with specialists & his response was " he doesnt need to see anyone, he will be fine, Arnold was on dialyasis for years & he is running CA so he will be fine" etc. So, he never went back for a follow up & this was over a year ago.
 

[pellius]

Speaking of bad blood work, remember Piana's ex on here, how she said Piana had some blood work done and it was alarming, kidney and liver values way off. The doc said he needed additional tests to see what's going on but Rich never went back nor stopped drugging. This was naybe 10 years ago? And dude is still standing.

Found it

What is meant about Arnold was on dialysis for years? Once on dialysis always on dialysis until you get a transplant or die. And why wasn't this public knowledge? No way someone like Arnold could be on dialysis and keep it a secret. Unlike the liver, the kidneys don't get better and regenerate.

[ESFitness]

I've known guys who were on dialysis for a few days to s few weeks and were done. When I went to rehab the first time another bodybuilder came in the same day at the exact same time I did so we were doing our intake stuff at the same time and I didn't get a chance to speak to him until late afternoon or evening it was pretty obvious speaking with him that he was way way way fucked up on meth and I think it's heroin head run out but he was super super spun out. He's a little bit taller maybe 6 with 3 and I'm up 240 lb but he was lean and vascular and Vascular the Cavs four arms arms Etc and the staff finally gave him a bunch of Psych drugs to put him to sleep at night so they had to check on him throughout the night and when I woke up the next morning he was gone and found out from the staff that they checked on him at like 4 or 5 a.m. and saw his face was swelling up like a pumpkin and they called the EMTs and took him to the hospital and he stayed in the hospital for a week or two on dialysis because of kidney failure. Saw him again maybe three weeks later at an AA meeting one night looking back to normal... Damn rehab place freaked out and decided to run a whole bunch of extra test on me as well because me and him look like brothers and we both used steroids so they thought I was going to have the same problems he had and they didn't want to get sued or be held liable. 

After I got out that dude went on to be a customer for over a year now and has not had a problem with his kidneys sense

[Vince B]

I just listened to Palumbo interview Bostin and my conclusion is that video was just Facebook publicity.  He is still massively on the gear for some video in the works.

Talk about having half a brain. Palumbo gives him advice about pregnancy stuff and it is ignored. Then he knocks Lee Priest. Foolish young man. Lee

knows much more than he will ever know about bodybuilding.

[pellius]

I've known guys who were on dialysis for a few days to s few weeks and were done. When I went to rehab the first time another bodybuilder came in the same day at the exact same time I did so we were doing our intake stuff at the same time and I didn't get a chance to speak to him until late afternoon or evening it was pretty obvious speaking with him that he was way way way fucked up on meth and I think it's heroin head run out but he was super super spun out. He's a little bit taller maybe 6 with 3 and I'm up 240 lb but he was lean and vascular and Vascular the Cavs four arms arms Etc and the staff finally gave him a bunch of Psych drugs to put him to sleep at night so they had to check on him throughout the night and when I woke up the next morning he was gone and found out from the staff that they checked on him at like 4 or 5 a.m. and saw his face was swelling up like a pumpkin and they called the EMTs and took him to the hospital and he stayed in the hospital for a week or two on dialysis because of kidney failure. Saw him again maybe three weeks later at an AA meeting one night looking back to normal... Damn rehab place freaked out and decided to run a whole bunch of extra test on me as well because me and him look like brothers and we both used steroids so they thought I was going to have the same problems he had and they didn't want to get sued or be held liable. 

After I got out that dude went on to be a customer for over a year now and has not had a problem with his kidneys sense

I always thought anabolic hormones primarily effect the liver, especially orals. Are there any compounds in particular that effect the kidneys?

[Taffin]

I always thought anabolic hormones primarily effect the liver, especially orals. Are there any compounds in particular that effect the kidneys?

I suppose the relative toxicity of each compound has a part to play, but perhaps the main culprit here is the increased - and of course sustained - level of lean body mass that a BB using PEDs would carry..?

This 10yr old paper states:

"Reports of professional athletes who abuse anabolic steroids are increasingly common. Most people know that using steroids is not good for your health, but until now, their effects on the kidneys have not been known. Leal Herlitz, MD (Columbia University Medical Center) and her colleagues recently conducted the first study describing injury to the kidneys following long-term abuse of anabolic steroids. The investigators studied a group of 10 bodybuilders who used steroids for many years and developed protein leakage into the urine and severe reductions in kidney function.

Kidney tests revealed that nine of the ten bodybuilders developed a condition called focal segmental glomerulosclerosis*, a type of scarring within the kidneys. This disease typically occurs when the kidneys are overworked. The kidney damage in the bodybuilders has similarities to that seen in morbidly obese patients, but appears to be even more severe."



* by amazing coincidence, FSG is the 'rare hereditary condition' that Flex Wheeler had - well whaddya kno!?!

American Society of Nephrology. "Bodybuilding With Steroids Damages Kidneys." ScienceDaily. ScienceDaily, 30 October 2009.
 www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091029141202.htm

[Van_Bilderass]

What is meant about Arnold was on dialysis for years? Once on dialysis always on dialysis until you get a transplant or die. And why wasn't this public knowledge? No way someone like Arnold could be on dialysis and keep it a secret. Unlike the liver, the kidneys don't get better and regenerate.

 

I think he just came up with some BS to calm the woman down. I guess it's possible he thinks Arnold was on dialysis, when afaik he only had some genetic heart issue.
 

I always thought anabolic hormones primarily effect the liver, especially orals. Are there any compounds in particular that effect the kidneys?

There's been some newer research suggesting androgens have a direct effect on the kidneys. How much that has contributed to some bb'ers kidney issues is hard to say since so many walk around with high untreated blood pressure. One fella said this on promuscle, sounds reasonable to me:

I've seen a lot of sick people over the last 25 years.  I'm trying to remember who I've seen with CKD, or more specifically CKD requiring dialysis, without comorbid hypertension or a genetic pathology.  I'm not saying it doesn't exist.  I'm just saying I'm having trouble thinking of that person right now.  Maybe I've never seen it, which is my point.  This includes bodybuilders I've met or known on some personal level like Don Long (HTN, diuretics), Beau Baisden (HTN, diuretics, partying in Vegas :headbang:), Tom Prince (NSAIDs + HTN + diuretics), Flex Wheeler (HTN + diuretics), Dan Duchaine (polycystic kidney disease), Mike Morris (HTN, diuretics) and regular run of the mill people I've treated in the old charity hospital system in South Louisiana to the most privileged at Cedars Sinai.  They all have HTN = hypertension usually coupled with something else.  NSAID abuse, diuretic abuse, cocaine abuse, all of the above, etc.

My point is, monitor your BP yourself at home regularly with a reliable cuff and keep in check. Risk begins over 115 systolic.  If you have some measure of CAD already this may to be too low for you and you would aim higher, 120-130.  Don't do stupid shit like take 3 grams of ibuprofen per day (Prince) or snort an 8 ball of coke in a night the weekend of the O (Beau) on top of your untreated hypertension (all of them).  Avoid loop diuretics like Lasix and Demedex (Chad Nicholls' choice - Prince, Flex).  Use Aldactone sparingly pre contest only as needed if you must use a diuretic.  Do not use it to look better for guest posing or Vegas pool parties like I've known a lot these guys to do.  If you are a water logged fuck you're probably fat anyway.  How many water logged fucks have you known that shoot Lasix or take Demedex come in shredded and win the show as a result?  Almost never happens.  I'm not saying it can't, I'm just saying I'm having trouble thinking of that person right now.

Avoid any and all of that and you will have a hard time convincing me that you have to worry about the direct affect of androgens on the kidneys aka androgenic nephrotoxicity.  Show me a guy with a BP of 106/65 for example with CKD.  It will be very diifficult to find this person.

Rex.

[hipolito mejia]

If he had acute renal failure he would feel it. He said he felt great, so you have to go with that which would align with chronic renal failure as his body has adapted to the toxins over time. Most don't even know they are at that stage until they have been their a while. Once he starts to lose his appetite or potassium climbs, it's game over.

And it is entirely possible for him to fry himself in 5 years. Grams upon grams of AAS, synthol and maybe a genetic predisposition. With the availability of AAS and the non stop cycles guys run now, this kidney thing will be an epidemic soon. But he's living in denial right now thinking he can just lower the dose and be okay. He would need to come off completely, lose 50 pounds, lower protein drastically, not workout and then hope for the best.

Why stop working out too ?

[ESFitness]

I always thought anabolic hormones primarily effect the liver, especially orals. Are there any compounds in particular that effect the kidneys?

Blood pressure generally... That guy I mentioned was in rehab after a 2 week bender-relapse on heroin and meth iv. Which I'm sure led to his kidney failure

[thelamefalsehood]

Why stop working out too ?

Too drop muscle. Having damaged kidneys and carrying 100 pounds extra muscle can't be good.

[thelamefalsehood]

You do not have a clue what you are talking about. "Require dialysis or transplant now. " oh brother.

Assuming this is his actual bloodwork. I should have claified further or explained better. Having a high creatinine in and of itself does not mean he needs dialysis. But, as I mentioned earlier, if his potassium climbs uncontrollably, he goes into metabolic acidosis and develops overwhelming lethargy, he will need it. It's dependent on the individual on how much they can handle. But past that his BUN is extremely high and he is at risk of a uremic coma. Make no mistake, that is kidney failure numbers. He may delay it for a while, but you can't stop what's coming.

[MAXX]

aaaand... he has kidney failure

old thread about the dummy http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=502785.0

[harmankardon1]

This shit is demented.^.. also Taking advice from beaus baisden???

I suppose it's amazing Bostins kidneys lasted this long.

[Taffin]

So he's been talking to Don Long and Beau Baisden...

Wonder why... 

[wes]

Done

When did he begin?

Kid`s done jackshit in the sport except push excessive drug use and fuck up his organs.

The term "done" almost implies that his long illustrious bodybuilding  career is coming to an end.
 

[Taffin]

So - a whole bottle of this a day for 30 days seems to have been the culprit...

https://peptideguide.com/peptides/adipotide/

Oh, and monumental stupidity, of course


(Hmm... now where's that Deadpool thread got to..?)

[wes]

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