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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #50 on: November 18, 2020, 11:44:26 AM »
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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #51 on: November 18, 2020, 11:48:29 AM »
Arnold’s calves were never weak just small. Genetically he had awesome shape he just needed to work them. You can’t build what isn’t there.

Exactly - the muscle fiber density was absolutely there.  It sort of reminds me of King Kamali's arms compared to Kevin Levrone's - it would have been impossible for Kamali to build arms like Levrone had.  Kamali had the same gap between the end of his biceps and his elbow joint that I have, and there is nothing I can do to ever fix that, and that's just the way it is.

Speaking of Kamali, I was disgusted with how he looked after around 2002.

Just disgusted.

But he looked fantastic in 2007 at the Montreal Pro, and proved he still had it.  Seeing how he got back to close to his former best almost out of the blue, it was obvious to me that whoever did his prep that year was a pure genius, a chemist, a magician, or all of the above.

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #52 on: November 18, 2020, 12:20:18 PM »
I'm gonna guess he never bothered to train calves until someone pointed out that his were under-developed.  Can't really explain the drastic improvements otherwise.

Lol at the suggestion that they're implants .. yeah sure, the world's best implants, the likes of which have never been seen since ::)

And they had those perfect implants available 50 years ago.

I remember in the 90s when some were indeed getting implants you could still see the scar if you knew where to look which was in the back of the knee where it blended in with the natural skin creases in that area.

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #53 on: November 18, 2020, 02:58:37 PM »
Roger Callard was a top bodybuilder, Arnolds friend and training partner at the time and he said Arnold went to Mexico and got implants. Callard was respected and not known as a bullshitter. I'm sorry if I burst some peoples bubble but this sport  is based on deceit and bullshit..(drugs)

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #54 on: November 18, 2020, 03:04:13 PM »
Roger Callard was a top bodybuilder, Arnolds friend and training partner at the time and he said Arnold went to Mexico and got implants. Callard was respected and not known as a bullshitter. I'm sorry if I burst some peoples bubble but this sport  is based on deceit and bullshit..(drugs)
It was said Arnold had pec implants. Do you believe that too? Or even bicep implants?

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #56 on: November 18, 2020, 03:09:00 PM »
Duchaine said it was actually small injections of silicone...

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #57 on: November 18, 2020, 03:15:55 PM »
Duchaine said it was actually small injections of silicone...

I remember reading that Arnold used to travel to Europe for a few weeks and come back looking 20 pounds bigger.  Rumor was it was site injections of some kind.

Who knows, leave Arnold alone guys! ;D

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #58 on: November 18, 2020, 03:19:29 PM »
Duchaine said it was actually small injections of silicone...
wasn't Duchaine that guy that had a woman put in implants in her calves. Which was a butcher job so her legs had to be amputated from knee down

yeah I'd totally trust that guy  ::)  seems like a really credible nice person  ::)


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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #59 on: November 18, 2020, 03:22:18 PM »
Roger Callard was a top bodybuilder, Arnolds friend and training partner at the time and he said Arnold went to Mexico and got implants. Callard was respected and not known as a bullshitter. I'm sorry if I burst some peoples bubble but this sport  is based on deceit and bullshit..(drugs)

That’s a load of BS, he got a cock implant

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #60 on: November 18, 2020, 03:23:40 PM »
Arnold's calves look like real muscle. How hard is it to believe the greatest bodybuilder on earth couldn't build  calf muscle?  If they were some kind of implant he got in the early 70's by the way they didn't exist then why did his calves go down along with the rest of his muscles when he got older?
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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #61 on: November 18, 2020, 04:26:27 PM »
wasn't Duchaine that guy that had a woman put in implants in her calves. Which was a butcher job so her legs had to be amputated from knee down

yeah I'd totally trust that guy  ::)  seems like a really credible nice person  ::)

I knew a guy in Atlanta that had that happened to him.  (It had already happened when I joined Main Event Fitness where he worked).  But he said he got the implants and in the left leg it was located too close to a nerve.   After a couple of years of having his lower leg feel like it was constantly falling asleep, he went to another doctor who told him the implant needed to come out ASAP.  He had it removed but it had compressed the nerve to a state of irreparable damage.  Despite everything they tried, his lower leg withered away and atrophied badly enough that he had to have it amputated.

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #62 on: November 18, 2020, 04:40:34 PM »
Roger Callard was a top bodybuilder, Arnolds friend and training partner at the time and he said Arnold went to Mexico and got implants. Callard was respected and not known as a bullshitter. I'm sorry if I burst some peoples bubble but this sport  is based on deceit and bullshit..(drugs)

Roger Callard tried to suck Arnold's cock after a training session.  He was so pissed at being rebuffed that he started this bullshit rumor you speak of.

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #63 on: November 19, 2020, 01:56:27 AM »
Roger Callard was a top bodybuilder, Arnolds friend and training partner at the time and he said Arnold went to Mexico and got implants. Callard was respected and not known as a bullshitter. I'm sorry if I burst some peoples bubble but this sport  is based on deceit and bullshit..(drugs)

Why should we believe you? How do we know that you even knew Roger Callard let alone have him confide in you? Why would he confide in you or in anybody and then have them tell you their deep dark secrets? How come we have never seen pics of Arnold training with Callard? They trained in the same gym but what evidence that they were close buddies that Arnold would confide to? Why would Arnold tell Callard he got implants? Have you seen implants? They don't flex. They don't look anything like Arnold's calves which are ripped and flexes naturally. How did surgeons in Mexico do calf implants 50 years ago that are so much better than the implants of today? I know three people that have had calf implants. One had it done in the early 1990s and the other two in 2000. They look like implants to the trained eye. Since when is Mexico on the cutting edge of enhancement surgery to make an implant so flawless, without any visible scars, all done 50 years ago? Why did Arnold's calves shrink when he retired and then blew back up for 1980?

I know you have a very, very dim view of bbing even though you are here on a bbing board. I'm sorry if I burst your bubble but high-level bbing is one of the most demanding 24/7 sports in the world and requires a level of commitment and discipline few can manage. Only the bitter and deluded think that it's based all on deceit and bullshit. Maybe you should go back and watch some videos of Dorian or Coleman and tell me what they are doing day after day, year after year, all deceit and bullshit.

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #64 on: November 19, 2020, 02:05:05 AM »
It was said Arnold had pec implants. Do you believe that too? Or even bicep implants?

You're right. Even Joe Meeko claimed that Arnold had pec implants. And I guarantee you that if prime Arnold were around today people would insist that Arnold had oil in his biceps. In fact, in the Arnold thread when someone commented on how large Arnold's delts were in 1980 another claimed that he used synthol. Synthol didn't even exists in 1980.

BBing has gotten to the point that so many believe that you just can't build real muscle anymore. They project their failures onto others. I remember getting into a long and heated argument with someone who insists that Robert Conrad, from "Wild Wild West" was juicing. His proof was that he just "knows" because Conrad had that "look". And this is the picture that this expert posted as proof that Conrad was a juicer. Just wait for the rebuttal from oldgolds who knows all the deep dark secrets.


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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #65 on: November 19, 2020, 02:07:29 AM »
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=633529.msg8825066#msg8825066

And this rebuttal crushes those two wannabes

two guys who made gay porn and have denied it ever since are trustworthy?

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #66 on: November 19, 2020, 02:09:53 AM »
I remember reading that Arnold used to travel to Europe for a few weeks and come back looking 20 pounds bigger.  Rumor was it was site injections of some kind.

Who knows, leave Arnold alone guys! ;D

Remember how huge Arnold was at 19 year old? They were using site injections back in the 60s and 70s that caused his arms and pecs to get so huge?

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #67 on: November 19, 2020, 02:11:18 AM »
Roger Callard tried to suck Arnold's cock after a training session.  He was so pissed at being rebuffed that he started this bullshit rumor you speak of.

Exactly.

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #68 on: November 19, 2020, 02:13:42 AM »
Arnold's calves look like real muscle. How hard is it to believe the greatest bodybuilder on earth couldn't build  calf muscle?  If they were some kind of implant he got in the early 70's by the way they didn't exist then why did his calves go down along with the rest of his muscles when he got older?

The phags today can't believe anybody can build real muscle anymore. Even a genetic marvel like Arnold that was driven to succeed at everything.

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #69 on: November 19, 2020, 02:25:32 AM »
Here's Patrick Arnold (of Balco fame) telling the Arnold Calf Implant Story on Misc.Fitness.Weights back in May 1996  -

"Arnold had no calves. Then he went to visit his friend Reg Park in South Africa (where a certain prominent cosmetic surgeon happened to have his residence also.) He stayed a couple of months. The only pictures of him there were of him in Reg's pool with calves underwater and such. Arnold comes back to America with huge calves. Coincidence? When questioned about his huge gains in the calf department, Arnold claims Reg taught him to train them heavy and that this was the 'secret'. Well, for the rest of us heavy calf training does not give anywhere near dramatic results. Am I making this up?

I was told this story by a certain renowned plastic surgeon who goes by the initials B.N., who, though he admitted there is only circumstantial evidence, certainly is qualified to spot such a thing. "

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It's the same version Duchaine told, except for Duchaine adding the "small silicone injections" part as how it could've been done.  I'm guessing the "B N" is Bruce Nadler, who was a famous bodybuilding plastic surgeon years ago. He'd be involved in a murder - suicide with his wife in the early 2000's, so if there was more to the story, it's gone now.

To be fair to Duchaine, etc....., he usually never told it as fact, it was just one of those pieces of bodybuilding lore that floats around.

Have fun with it :).

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Edit - Duchaine and the silicone bit in 1996, discussing it vs Synthol (not in relation to Arnold, but how the technique works)  -

"Why bother with an oil?

The same size needle would pass silicone and it would be safer and last forever. Small injections would allow the body to naturally encapsulate the silicone so it will stay put."


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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #70 on: November 19, 2020, 03:53:20 AM »
No way did Arnold have calf injections or implants.  You can see the muscle fibers moving when he flexed them.  Oil and implants don't flex.

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #71 on: November 19, 2020, 05:43:49 AM »
   arnold did know roger callard but only from being in the gym. they never hung out etc.  in fact arnold himself mentions callard about back trainng. he told callard to include bent over rows tbar rows dumbell rows etc to build back "thickness" cuz all callard used to do was pulldowns etc.   funny how these implant stories change. one said 'weider" hooked him up with a mexican doctoe in mexico. another south america. another with dick sucker nadler etc.  in truth arnold was like everyone else. he trained calves last in  his workout and alot of times he missed them completly.  then he went to reg and reg explainded to him about what calves were designed to do ( dense muscle fiber and for everyday use. basically saying you can not over train them no matter what)  so he then started everyday calf training more and more weight and training them first in his workouts.  lots of sets and kept reps low( usually 10 or so) plus he trained them most of the time BAREFOOT.  try it. you will see how much more you can feel your calves. also he cut off the bottoms of his sweats to expose them so he had to train them  cuz people made comments.   oh and duchaine liked to joke and say things for reactions etc. the female who did that actually had someone use silicone ( hardware store stuff) and thats what caused her problems.  she didnt understand what he meant ( just like when duchaine said mike mentzer used to drink his own urine.  he didnt he had to carry a jug around to piss in for the doctor to check his kidneys out)  duchaine was always doing shit like that. a steroid and body genius but also a little warpped. lol

 

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #72 on: November 19, 2020, 06:01:05 AM »
Why should we believe you? How do we know that you even knew Roger Callard let alone have him confide in you? Why would he confide in you or in anybody and then have them tell you their deep dark secrets? How come we have never seen pics of Arnold training with Callard? They trained in the same gym but what evidence that they were close buddies that Arnold would confide to? Why would Arnold tell Callard he got implants? Have you seen implants? They don't flex. They don't look anything like Arnold's calves which are ripped and flexes naturally. How did surgeons in Mexico do calf implants 50 years ago that are so much better than the implants of today? I know three people that have had calf implants. One had it done in the early 1990s and the other two in 2000. They look like implants to the trained eye. Since when is Mexico on the cutting edge of enhancement surgery to make an implant so flawless, without any visible scars, all done 50 years ago? Why did Arnold's calves shrink when he retired and then blew back up for 1980?

I know you have a very, very dim view of bbing even though you are here on a bbing board. I'm sorry if I burst your bubble but high-level bbing is one of the most demanding 24/7 sports in the world and requires a level of commitment and discipline few can manage. Only the bitter and deluded think that it's based all on deceit and bullshit. Maybe you should go back and watch some videos of Dorian or Coleman and tell me what they are doing day after day, year after year, all deceit and bullshit.


I didn't know Callard, my source was another guy who trained at Olympic Health club in LA in 1975....
Clean weight-training and bodybuilding is a great pastime but competitive bodybuilding is cesspool of narcissistic, drug addicted phonies standing on a stage in their underwear  screaming to the World "look at this beautiful body I've created by injecting dangerous, unhealthy drugs"
You seem like a smart guy, I'm surprised you are so invested in this phony charade.

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #73 on: November 19, 2020, 06:22:43 AM »
His calves and pecs were built with hard work........something that seems to be forgotten about in this sport these days.

How can anyone with any knowledge of bodybuilding or anatomy look at his pecs and calves and believe he had implants?

Fucking ridiculous !!

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Re: How Arnold really brought up his calves?
« Reply #74 on: November 19, 2020, 06:35:42 AM »
Arnold went into the future and got calf implants done at Sarah-Connor Hospital.
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