RIP - Matt Porter - 05-30-19

[el numero uno]

Wow, 34.. too young.

Pro bodybuilding is a gamble with very bad odds.

[Skylge]

I didn't follow him, but saw a couple of vids that popped up on YT.  Seemed like a good dude, and you can tell from his wife's post he was a good husband and dad which is saying a lot these days.  Sad to read the end part where she hoped his friends would stay around so her son would know what his dad was like cuz he is so little.

The dr. that told him his high bp was no big deal, and didn't medicate should lose his license.  Matt seemed to make some dumb decisions based on his bb'ing addiction as his wife called it, but that dr. is a professional and made a huge one that could have saved him. (maybe?)

LIP Matt!

I doubt if using life threatening drugs can be seen as "being a good husband and dad"....

[Coach is Back!]

Id say 85 % of pro bodybuilders remain in the sport" after having health issues.  

The first side effect is high BP. Very common I have yet to know one bodybuilder to go get another hobby " as doctors often tell them.  

He was a good guy though.    RIP.

The non-competitive bodybuilding lifestyle is probably one of the healthiest ways to live but like ANYTHING else, you abuse it and it will abuse you. Too many people, like always, tend to jump to conclusions especially since he just passed yesterday. he was smart in the way he knew he had uncontrollable BP and called it quits. He died way too young to say this was all drugs. He was off gear for a long time with the exception of TRT and BP meds and, from what I understand, making it a point to live a healthier lifestyle. Either way, he was waaaaaaaay too young and with a young family that he left behind.

Side note; despite popular belief, genetics and predispositions to high BP, cholesterol, cancers, heart disease do count which makes me wonder how some could be on heavy doses and still be healthy and some cannot. If you go down this road of having the desire to make this a "career" and get to the national level and then the pro ranks (in bodybuilding, not classic or physique) go back a generation or two to see what your families health history is and what you might be predisposed too.

But all in all, there are safe ways to compete. Blame the internet for all of the bullshit put out by board warriors who think they know what they're doing only to realize they don't have a clue.

[visualizeperfection]

Coach, do you feel that contest prep is the toughest on your internals?

Perhaps it’s safer to walk around 300 pound mass monster than to do multiple shows a year killing yourself?

[Pet shop boys]

The non-competitive bodybuilding lifestyle is probably one of the healthiest ways to live but like ANYTHING else, you abuse it and it will abuse you. Too many people, like always, tend to jump to conclusions especially since he just passed yesterday. he was smart in the way he knew he had uncontrollable BP and called it quits. He died way too young to say this was all drugs. He was off gear for a long time with the exception of TRT and BP meds and, from what I understand, making it a point to live a healthier lifestyle. Either way, he was waaaaaaaay too young and with a young family that he left behind.

Sad thing is, you don't even have to abuse it "

I think the main problem here is once you know your health is in jeopardy  the "mindset" of a pro bodybuilder will keep at it in most cases anyways ,   It's almost impossible to become a pro bodybuilder say in your mid 20's and then years after, low the dosages from your 30's and beyond to provide to family and to remain healthy " ..

Remember when Jay Gutler said he'd be a fool if he didn't walk away from the lifestyle in his 30's?  the guy is 46 with both biceps torn and still at it ….

On the other hand Mike O'hearn is 50, shredded year round and still healthy ……

It is a messed up cult .



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[The Keto Kid]

Theres guys like Lui Simmons who have done steroids for 60 plus years and he's still going. I think once you get into the designer stuff and playing with hgh, insulin,  peptides, seo..that's when you start seeing the health issues.

[Joe Valentino]

Sad thing is, you don't even have to abuse it "

I think the main problem here is once you know your health is in jeopardy  the "mindset" of a pro bodybuilder will keep at it in most cases anyways ,   It's almost impossible to become a pro bodybuilder say in your mid 20's and then years after, low the dosages from your 30's and beyond to provide to family and to remain healthy " ..

remember when Jay Gutler said he'd be a fool if he didn't walk away from the lifestyle in his 30's?  the guy is 46 with both biceps torn and still at it ….

On the other hand Mike O'hearn is 50, shredded year round and still healthy ……

It is a messed up cult .



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Theres very little money on Pro Bodybuilding, yet people do these crazy things. Kelly Slater and some guys on the Surf Pro circuit have a nice look, and theyre prolly on tiny amounts of weak gear. Some MMA guys are also on gear, but much lower dosages and yet theres significant more money on professional fighting, so in order to play the game you gotta be super insane to partake in Pro BBuilding.

O Hearn has a bad ass body. And hes prolly more richer than Phil, who has 7 Mr O, without going to that crazy road!!
 I might be wrong , tho

[Joe Valentino]

[Taffin]

[Coach is Back!]

Coach, do you feel that contest prep is the toughest on your internals?

Perhaps it’s safer to walk around 300 pound mass monster than to do multiple shows a year killing yourself?

It really all depends who you are and what that person or person's trainer's belief is but to clear things up, more is not better and most of the time the higher the doses the worse that person might look. It is true, that in most cases the pre-contest gear (at the higher levels) are harsh but most of those harsh compounds are used (or should be used) for short durations (2-8 weeks at most) with minimal doses to avoid side effects, I'm referring mostly to orals. In the off-season, I avoid all orals and the only time I used them was 4 weeks before the show out of the entire year. After that (like right now) I use a product called "Liver Stabil" just to help detox.

[Coach is Back!]

Sad thing is, you don't even have to abuse it "

I think the main problem here is once you know your health is in jeopardy  the "mindset" of a pro bodybuilder will keep at it in most cases anyways ,   It's almost impossible to become a pro bodybuilder say in your mid 20's and then years after, low the dosages from your 30's and beyond to provide to family and to remain healthy " ..

remember when Jay Gutler said he'd be a fool if he didn't walk away from the lifestyle in his 30's?  the guy is 46 with both biceps torn and still at it ….

On the other hand Mike O'hearn is 50, shredded year round and still healthy ……

It is a messed up cult .



WooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH  





WoooSHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

I don't consider torn muscles as a health risk, like any sport that you have to use weights to train with, it's almost inevitable that an injury will occur. Other than that, Jay is living proof that you can live a healthy bodybuilding lifestyle without competition. In my opinion.

I'm not talking about the competitive lifestyle. He was correct in saying that.

[Bevo]

Theres guys like Lui Simmons who have done steroids for 60 plus years and he's still going. I think once you get into the designer stuff and playing with hgh, insulin,  peptides, seo..that's when you start seeing the health issues.

There’s always the exception for everything

A lot of times we don’t exactly know the health of these bbers, or if they are really healthy or not, they take so much shit to mask other symptoms, who really knows

What we do know will be interesting to see, like the current crop of guys? The “internet” era of guys and their health’s will be interesting to see in 10+ years time

[wes]

RIP

[SF1900]

The non-competitive bodybuilding lifestyle is probably one of the healthiest ways to live but like ANYTHING else, you abuse it and it will abuse you. Too many people, like always, tend to jump to conclusions especially since he just passed yesterday. he was smart in the way he knew he had uncontrollable BP and called it quits. He died way too young to say this was all drugs. He was off gear for a long time with the exception of TRT and BP meds and, from what I understand, making it a point to live a healthier lifestyle. Either way, he was waaaaaaaay too young and with a young family that he left behind.

Side note; despite popular belief, genetics and predispositions to high BP, cholesterol, cancers, heart disease do count which makes me wonder how some could be on heavy doses and still be healthy and some cannot. If you go down this road of having the desire to make this a "career" and get to the national level and then the pro ranks (in bodybuilding, not classic or physique) go back a generation or two to see what your families health history is and what you might be predisposed too.

But all in all, there are safe ways to compete. Blame the internet for all of the bullshit put out by board warriors who think they know what they're doing only to realize they don't have a clue.

Coach, serious question:

Do you think there are any safe ways to compete at the IFBB level?

I can't imagine it's safe at all, or healthy.

[Bevo]

Coach, serious question:

Do you think there are any safe ways to compete at the IFBB level?

I can't imagine it's safe at all, or healthy.

Say a prayer, hope your health holds, and blast away 

At least with other real pro sports, you get millions, in bbing, a plastic trophy and admiration of schmoes

[visualizeperfection]

Say a prayer, hope your health holds, and blast away 

At least with other real pro sports, you get millions, in bbing, a plastic trophy and admiration of schmoes

Exactly. Benefits are way higher with bodybuilding.

[WalterWhite]

Unlucky in his choice of medical professionals then - first a Doc who told him not to worry about his hypertension, and then a Cardiologist who thinks it's OK/normal to have a cold shake cause VF due to the timing of the gulp...

*sigh*

That just baffles me.  I can't imagine a Dr looking at a bulked up bodybuilder with high bp and sending him on his way with no follow up or meds.

As far as VF/AF every Dr learns about sudden death and could have easily sent him for heart mapping. In the mean time meds.
https://www.medtronic.com/us-en/patients/treatments-therapies/cardiac-mapping.html

A bb I used to train with many many years ago started having af/vf issues in his late 40's early 50's and I recommended a MGH cardiologist. Meds were not controlling it well so they mapped him and ablated the faulty electrical pathway.  So far so good.

[oldtimer1]

Using bodybuilding drugs are a risk to health. Having said that so are cigarettes. Will there be life long smokers who live to 80? Of course. Are cigarettes a risk to the heart, lungs and getting cancer? Of course they are. I find fans of bodybuilding drugs use the biggest rationalization among drug users. They all say the risk is over blown. Even after they have a heart attack or a stroke. It's always, "My drug use has nothing to do with it."  Okay, lie to yourself.  Syringe away.  The majority of us have a predisposition to an eventual health problem. Why increase the odds? 

Bodybuilding naturally with cardio could be one of the most amazing things you can do to decrease the odds of health problems but it has been corrupted by insecure guys trying to impress others with their manhood via pills and syringes.

[Humble Narcissist]

Using bodybuilding drugs are a risk to health. Having said that so are cigarettes. Will there be life long smokers who live to 80? Of course. Are cigarettes a risk to the heart, lungs and getting cancer? Of course they are. I find fans of bodybuilding drugs use the biggest rationalization among drug users. They all say the risk is over blown. Even after they have a heart attack or a stroke. It's always, "My drug use has nothing to do with it."  Okay, lie to yourself.  Syringe away.  The majority of us have a predisposition to an eventual health problem. Why increase the odds? 

Bodybuilding naturally with cardio could be one of the most amazing things you can do to decrease the odds of health problems but it has been corrupted by insecure guys trying to impress others with their manhood via pills and syringes.

Yes, and women have probably been hurt even worse by the examples they have in bodybuilding.  Most women won't touch weights because they think they will morph into one of the she beasts in the mags or online.  Weight training would keep women looking younger, sexier and healthier if they engaged in it.  If steroids never entered the scene we would be better off.

[tres_taco_combo]

God Damnit!  He was talking about being healthy......

go to 630 of the video - interesting

[Necrosis]

Life is a death sentence, no matter what one tries to do.

interesting enough there is not such thing as death if you accept the fact that nothing inherently exists on its own!

[tres_taco_combo]

wtf, it's sad but he was irresponsible and selfish. he had a wife and child to provide for.

this is what happens when you follow MoB's lifestyle advice:

he is a giants fan?

[Bevo]

Using bodybuilding drugs are a risk to health. Having said that so are cigarettes. Will there be life long smokers who live to 80? Of course. Are cigarettes a risk to the heart, lungs and getting cancer? Of course they are. I find fans of bodybuilding drugs use the biggest rationalization among drug users. They all say the risk is over blown. Even after they have a heart attack or a stroke. It's always, "My drug use has nothing to do with it."  Okay, lie to yourself.  Syringe away.  The majority of us have a predisposition to an eventual health problem. Why increase the odds?  

Bodybuilding naturally with cardio could be one of the most amazing things you can do to decrease the odds of health problems but it has been corrupted by insecure guys trying to impress others with their manhood via pills and syringes.

Good post

No different than people who say “well, we have homegrown terrorists, and I fear them more,” in justifying when illegal immigrants commit crimes

People are always going to make justifications as long as it fits what they agree or don’t agree with, for what they do

Look at what his wife is saying about him, since he doesn’t drink, smoke, rec drugs, bbing is his addiction. You can bet damn well he was running crazy amounts of gear and who knows what else

The signs were all there since 2012. Whatever he is saying he neglected what was happening, it was an addiction

[The True Adonis]

interesting enough there is not such thing as death if you accept the fact that nothing inherently exists on its own!

There is no such thing as anything because its all relative.

[Matt]

Good post

No different than people who say “well, we have homegrown terrorists, and I fear them more,” in justifying when illegal immigrants commit crimes

People are always going to make justifications as long as it fits what they agree or don’t agree with, for what they do

Look at what his wife is saying about him, since he doesn’t drink, smoke, rec drugs, bbing is his addiction. You can bet damn well he was running crazy amounts of gear and who knows what else

The signs were all there since 2012. Whatever he is saying he neglected what was happening, it was an addiction

"Sometimes White men commit murder, so let's import races of people whose men commit 10 times as much murder."