Author Topic: Cormier calls out Dugdale in new MD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (Read 27499 times)

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #25 on:** April 22, 2006, 04:36:19 PM »

but gunter is 300lb
i saw him struggling with less than 315 on a smith bar...flat press
in bfto 2002 i think... i have a couple dvd with him on it.. ive never seen him do anything strong...ever

gordiano · « **Reply #26 on:** April 22, 2006, 04:40:45 PM »

Quote from: DragonsBreath on April 22, 2006, 04:29:45 PM

ahahahahahaha Dugdale pressing what? YEAH RIGHT!

That's one of the main reasons i don't read FLEX any more. they fake everything. including the Olympia doing well.

FAKE WEIGHTS!

No shit. The articles, ghostwritten. The photos, faked. Drugs in the sport...... non existent in Flex.

Billy Rosewood · « **Reply #27 on:** April 22, 2006, 04:42:59 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on April 22, 2006, 04:21:46 PM

Ahmo Hight?

Yeah, he close fisted decked in the face.

sarcasm · « **Reply #28 on:** April 22, 2006, 04:43:07 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 22, 2006, 04:36:19 PM

but gunter is 300lb
i saw him struggling with less than 315 on a smith bar...flat press
in bfto 2002 i think... i have a couple dvd with him on it.. ive never seen him do anything strong...ever

i agree, the only relatively impressive thing i've seen him do was on BFTO '04 he did lying extensions with like 175-185 for like 8 reps or so with pretty good form.

DIVISION · « **Reply #29 on:** April 22, 2006, 04:44:37 PM »

Quote from: mesmorph78 on April 22, 2006, 04:36:19 PM

but gunter is 300lb
i saw him struggling with less than 315 on a smith bar...flat press
in bfto 2002 i think... i have a couple dvd with him on it.. ive never seen him do anything strong...ever

Gunther is more suited for mass than strength.

That's not shocking.

DIV

mesmorph78 · « **Reply #30 on:** April 22, 2006, 04:46:42 PM »

extensions with 185... is not impressive.... in the slightest.. heck on a good arm dayi crank that out
actually for a 300lb man... since everybody goes by weiht.. thats weak

LuciusFox · « **Reply #31 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:07:51 PM »

Quote from: Condor on April 22, 2006, 04:35:47 PM

I know for a fact that Dugdale subscribes to the Dorian Yates/somewhat Mike Mentzer style of training. This guy doesn't train for reps, so I wouldn't exactly put it past him.

Come on, man.

HERACLES · « **Reply #32 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:09:37 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on April 22, 2006, 04:10:41 PM

you mean like Ronnies 315lb. seated overhead tricep extensions.

NO WAY! REALLY? I never saw that one..NOW THATS ABSURD, I dont care how STRONG ROnnie is...Its just physically as far as kinesiology, and stress points IMPOSSIBLE..lol.. that would tear your elbows into bits!

Whcih mag was this in? These mags are getting pretty insulting to knowledgeable readers like ourselves..Wtf are they thinking..

triple_pickle · « **Reply #33 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:17:55 PM »

i do triceps extensions with 314.5 so i would not put 315 past ronnie.

HERACLES · « **Reply #34 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:22:51 PM »

Quote from: triple_pickle on April 22, 2006, 05:17:55 PM

i do triceps extensions with 314.5 so i would not put 315 past ronnie.

These are OVERHEAD TRICEP Ext..do you know what that is? NOT FLAT...

MisterMagoo · « **Reply #35 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:23:44 PM »

if you notice in the mags, everyone is benching with 5 plates, everyone can deadlift 6 plates, and almost everyone is squatting the same. according to flex there are no weak or strong pros because everyone's lifting the same exact amounts.

double funny because the dumbbells are apparently harder to get in a non-weighted variety, so the same guys tend to be curling 35s and doing shrugs with 100s.

LuciusFox · « **Reply #36 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:24:08 PM »

Quote from: Sean Maloney on April 22, 2006, 05:22:10 PM

I don't understand why it's of any importance to Cormier either way.

Regarding the photos, I'm sure all that you would have to do is go to Mark's site and email him inquiring about the legitimacy of them. I see no reason why you would not receive an honest answer.

Are you saying that you believe Mark completed the lift?

LuciusFox · « **Reply #37 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:44:07 PM »

Quote from: Sean Maloney on April 22, 2006, 05:41:42 PM

I'm not saying either way. What I am saying is that in order to know the details reagarding the photos, you would need to ask someone who was actually there. Mark's pretty much as straight up of a guy you're gonna get... if anyone is that concerned about it, ask him.

Wow...you are so far gone it's not even funny $:-\$

triple_pickle · « **Reply #38 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:48:00 PM »

Quote from: HERACLES on April 22, 2006, 05:22:51 PM

These are OVERHEAD TRICEP Ext..do you know what that is? NOT FLAT...

baby heracles, learn to differentiate between seriousness and sarcasm....

DIVISION · « **Reply #39 on:** April 22, 2006, 05:59:09 PM »

Quote from: Matt C on April 22, 2006, 04:50:36 PM

I wasn't impressed too much by Gunter. Now I won't go and say I can keep up with him during a workout, but given his size I would expect more.

Maybe he is just one to get incredibly weak when closing in on a show? Moreso than other pros perhaps. It doesn't seem to me that his flat bench one rep max would be much more than four plates.

Being 6'1 he might have a height disadvantage though.

Matthew,

It's a bit hard to look good criticizing a pro's strength, even if he is weak for his size.

Quote from: triple_pickle on April 22, 2006, 05:48:00 PM

baby heracles, learn to differentiate between seriousness and sarcasm....

^Stop trying to steal my flow, PicklePet....

I call people "baby", that's my thing.

DIV

triple_pickle · « **Reply #40 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:03:01 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on April 22, 2006, 05:59:09 PM

Matthew,

It's a bit hard to look good criticizing a pro's strength, even if he is weak for his size.

^Stop trying to steal my flow, PicklePet....

I call people "baby", that's my thing.

DIV

i could not resist, div

HERACLES · « **Reply #41 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:04:15 PM »

Quote from: triple_pickle on April 22, 2006, 05:48:00 PM

baby heracles, learn to differentiate between seriousness and sarcasm....

My fault..I apologize! Doh!

DIVISION · « **Reply #42 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:05:59 PM »

Quote from: triple_pickle on April 22, 2006, 06:03:01 PM

i could not resist, div

PicklePet,

Explain why I'd be dissapointed in CQ.

What about her is not attractive?

DIV

Cool Black Clyde · « **Reply #43 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:07:57 PM »

Cormier probably didn't really say that. In one of his videos he's pissed when he reads what he supposedly "wrote" in his MD column, and he says he's never written it. None of those guys "write" any of those. MD just makes up crap to be "shocking." Do you honestly think Cormier sits down at his computer and types out a column every month?

No one can even find him to talk to him for most of the year.

irocktheyellow · « **Reply #44 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:13:20 PM »

I think ive seen him do 4 plates a side on incline, so that would be 405.

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #45 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:28:01 PM »

Quote from: sarcasm on April 22, 2006, 04:06:07 PM

in his column Cormier said that there was no way that the picture in Flex of Dugdale incline pressing 495 was real because Dugdale only weighs 205, i agree with him, what do you b itches think?

was that in the issue with Lee and David on the cover? It might be possible - Branch Warren is about the same height and can inlcine 4 or 5 plates. Then again, the picture could be of him doing partial reps. A couple months ago Art Atwood had a feature in flex about "Fear-Factor Partials" and he had 6 or 7 plates on incline. I dunno - i think Cormier is right on this one

LuciusFox · « **Reply #46 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:31:17 PM »

Quote from: Cool Black Clyde on April 22, 2006, 06:07:57 PM

Cormier probably didn't really say that. In one of his videos he's pissed when he reads what he supposedly "wrote" in his MD column, and he says he's never written it. None of those guys "write" any of those. MD just makes up crap to be "shocking." Do you honestly think Cormier sits down at his computer and types out a column every month? No one can even find him to talk to him for most of the year.

I just got a mental picture of Cormier sliding up to his computer with a pair of glasses and a cup of coffee, preparing to write his column

triple_pickle · « **Reply #47 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:32:30 PM »

Quote from: DIVISION on April 22, 2006, 06:05:59 PM

PicklePet,

Explain why I'd be dissapointed in CQ.

What about her is not attractive?

DIV

my comment was with regard to cheri. did i misread you?

brianX · « **Reply #48 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:34:47 PM »

These idiot bodybuilders aren't nearly as strong as people think. I would be surprised if he did 405 on flat bench.

Ex Coelis · « **Reply #49 on:** April 22, 2006, 06:36:37 PM »

Quote from: brianX on April 22, 2006, 06:34:47 PM

These idiot bodybuilders aren't nearly as strong as people think. I would be surprised if he did 405 on flat bench.

Lee Haney did 405 flat bench for 6 reps in his Olympia workout video - I doubt Dugdale is stronger than Haney