if Dorian is no where near your ideal or classic phsique then WHY do you:
1. say he has great legs when everyone can see that he has piss poor cuts and thigh sweep.
2. have argued in the past that Yates arms are better than ronnie's when everyone can see that they suck from most angles.
3. argue that he had a great taper when everyone can see that his really wide waist prevents this from happening
4. say his back double biceps pose is amazing, yet almost all shots show that it is not at Ronnie's level.
5. say he has a great chest (using a quote from some moron saying he had the best side chest shot) when his chest was certainly nothing special
6. Ignore the fact that, given his inferior arms and chest, his most muscular is horrible.
7. have said over on that other board that Yates was 'the last great Mr. Olympia"
8. ignore the fact that he had little striations except for his lower back.
9. Ignore the fact that he had little vascularity (adds impressiveness)
Answers please.
1) piss poor cuts and sweep? lol the only problem with Yates' quads is upper/separation and his sweep is good not fantastic but that doesn't matter he beat Flex who had a much better quad sweep
2) I've argued Yates has better overall arms , meaning better triceps , and forearms and a balance throughout his entire arms , Coleman has medicore triceps development , amazing biceps , and bowling pin shaped forearms that are to small for his biceps/triceps
3) You're just loopy if you don't think he had a great taper even with a " wide " waist , he had one of the widest backs ever in the sport , and lets entertain your moronic statement he has no taper , then why doesn't he look like Cutler in the ab-thigh?
and at this point Cutler may be just as wide as Yates was
4) Dorian's back double bicep shot is amazing , especially that one with the green backround , its amazing because of the balance & proportion , the size , shape and detail , from top to bottom , its the whole package and he has it in his prime condition
5) He chest was nothing special? you keep grasping at straws he has a awesome sidechest shot , and it was Ronnie himself who said " He had the best side-chest pose and the thickest freakiest back I have ever seen. " this is King Coleman saying this , so if you think Coleman is a moron for saying that , I diagree lol
6) For you to say you don't like his most muscular and prefer Ronnie's is one thing , to say its horrible shows your bias and outright stupidty
7) I do feel he is the last great Mr Olympia , especially looking at at what Coleman has become
another lame assesment , one striations are genetic , two he had pleanty , especially in his x-mas tree and midback which was razor sharp and those really cool ass striations
and had pleanty in his chest , and conditioning was
never an issue for Yates , Peter McGough described Yates condition as " having tissue paper for skin " and check his midsection , it was shredded , striations in the intercostals , excellent abs
9) you're grasping straws if you're trying to use that as an edge
Bottom line , Yates beat pleanty of guys with , better shape , symmetry , vascularity , aesthetics , smaller waists , striations , quad sweep , more mass , less mass , hes beaten guys with better biceps , triceps , quads , chests , delts , hes beaten taller guys , heavier guys , in fact he has beat almost every single person he ever faced , he lost only twice and avenged one of those loses , and one he beat in the muscularity round , hypothetically speaking if Dorian didn't tear as many muscles and continued to compete Ronnie would have
NEVER beaten Yates no matter what condition he acchived .
