I've said it before and I'll say it again....There's not a single man alive in combat sports that would defeat Jones on Cocaine.
If Jon Jones does a few lines of Cocaine before stepping into any ring, no one beats him. No one comes close to beating him. I don't care the fighter or even style. The guy is a gift. He is dangerous everywhere. I love boxing and believe firmly that boxing is the best form of combat to know in order to protect yourself, but Jones has too many skills and would annihilate a boxer by introducing them to kryptonite via wrestling and ground game. Jones would elbow the fuck out of a boxer, muay thai fighter or kickboxer while on the ground. The fight would end.
Now, Jones without Cocaine can certainly be beaten, but it would take a lot.
In MMA, I think he's the best fighter of all time. When he gets to heavyweight, I think he will be fine. The X factor is whether some of those heavy punchers can land flush on Jones' chin. If they do, it could be lights out, but that's a big "if". Jones has fought heavy punchers before and knows how to evade extremely well. His stamina is ridiculous, his fight IQ is ridiculous, his abilities on the ground and in standup are ridiculous. He controls the distance incredibly well, cuts angles, knows how to use his jab, elbows, knees, kicks and can deliver devastating blows and submissions in the clinch, while having the capacity to take anyone to the ground and control fully. The biggest issues I see for Jones at heavyweight aren't his size, power, stamina or speed. I think I will keep an eye on the effects of age on him, as we all get defeated by father time. Separate from that, I wonder how well he would be able to take head strikes from these heavyweights. Granted, the only striker in heavyweight that I see posing a threat to truly connect on Jones is Ciryl Gane, but even then, Jones is no Derrick Lewis.
A prime Tyson was an animal and an absolute criminal that would have essentially bitten another's man's testicles to win a fight. Prime Tyson would get smoked in a ring by a prime Lenox Lewis every damn day of the week (Prime Lenox Lewis beats the fuck out of everyone in boxing, regardless of era in my humble opinion). Prime Tyson would also get outboxed by prime Holyfield. On the street, prime Tyson would probably kill both of them. Prime Tyson fighting prime Jones on the street, hard to tell who would win, but I'd lean on Jones. Tyson has NO ground game and Jones is a strong wrestler and is also prone to criminality. Jones would easily kill a man if he knew he could get away with it.
If Jones fights Ngannou in March, I'll definitely watch that fight!
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Good stuff. Agree with most of this. The Ngannou match would be awesome.
With the street fighting questions, they're generally so vague as to be meaningless. What do we even mean by a street fight? Are they sober? Is it in some packed night-club? Is it some sort of pre-arranged meet up where both just turn up in a field and anything goes? I'd say a cage fight is close enough to some pre-arranged, sober meet up on 'da streets', and yeah, Jones would likely take it in both those scenarios.
A lot of people also seem to discuss street fights from the perspective of being a doorman or something like that, where size and strength mean a hell of a lot when you're sober and dragging drunk guys out of bars. Really, though, the reality of them is they're a few seconds of sudden violence, where one person has enough of the other's shit and decides to throw some hands. From that perspective, a prime Tyson pretty much wins them all, haha. He'd be first to snap and start swinging some hooks, and if they land, you're done. And if you take him down, you're going to at least get a chunk bitten out of you before any choke holds and stuff like that become relevant.
Anyone watching the UFC tonight? I'm going to set an alarm for it. Hoping Paddy gets his stupid face smashed.
