CCP Spy balloon over Northern US states

[Wayne Tracker]

Straw,

They could have done that over land too, over many already secluded areas.

Straw, do you really believe that story, that concern for people and property is really the reason why they waited so long to shoot it down?  Come on, man. 

They keep changing their story.  Look at the story they're telling now:

Melissa Dalton, assistant secretary of defense for homeland defense and hemispheric affairs, said the U.S. military wanted to capture the balloon and analyze it. “If we had taken it down over the state of Alaska… it would have been a very different recovery operation,” she said at the hearing. “The water depths offshore the Aleutians… go very quickly, from about 150 feet to over 18,000 feet in the Bering Sea. The winter water temperatures in the Bering Sea hover consistently in the low-30s, which would make recovery and salvage operations very dangerous.”
https://www.yahoo.com/news/chinese-spy-balloon-appears-designed-182836618.html

sure they could have and they assessed that the least amount of danger to life and property and the highest degree of recovery is the location of the coast of North Carolina where they chose to shoot it down

Did you happen to notice this statement in the post above:  Officials were aiming to time the operation so they could recover as much of the debris as possible before it sinks into the ocean. The Pentagon had previously estimated that any debris field would be substantial.

Somehow it appears that you have greater expertise than the entire US military in matters like this

How did you gain this expertise?  Have you contacted the military to offer them your expert guidance.  I'm sure they would have appreciated it.

[sync pulse]

It could also be that they didn't want China to know that the United States knew about the flights so false data could be fed to them.

[loco]

sure they could have and they assessed that the least amount of danger to life and property and the highest degree of recovery is the location of the coast of North Carolina where they chose to shoot it down

Did you happen to notice this statement in the post above:  Officials were aiming to time the operation so they could recover as much of the debris as possible before it sinks into the ocean. The Pentagon had previously estimated that any debris field would be substantial.

Somehow it appears that you have greater expertise than the entire US military in matters like this

How did you gain this expertise?  Have you contacted the military to offer them your expert guidance.  I'm sure they would have appreciated it.

Straw,

I see you admit now it's not about concern for people or property, but about capturing the spy balloon debris in the easiest way possible...at least that's their new story now and you are going along with it.

Straw, the US government is now claiming they knew about the spy balloon when it was over Alaska, actually even before, when it was over US islands off the coast of Alaska.  So the US military decided to let it fly all over the US, over military bases, spy, collect secret information while transmitting it to China, then shoot it down after it was done spying?  Come on, man.

I see you blindly trust the US military and the commander in chief 100% and never question what they do or why they do it.  Good for you.

[loco]

US shoots down unknown 'high-altitude object' over Alaska, White House says

Fri, February 10, 2023 at 8:32 PM EST

The White House said Friday that an unknown "high-altitude object" had been shot down over the waters off Alaska.

Asked if was "balloon-like," the official said, "All I say is that it wasn't 'flying' with any sort of propulsion, so if that is 'balloon-like' well -- we just don't have enough at this point."

The object was traveling "northeasterly across Alaska" and two F-35 fighters were sent up to identify it last night, the Pentagon said later Friday evening.

The recovery operation was taking place in a mix of ice and snow with active duty and National Guard units stationed in Alaska, the Pentagon said.

"We do expect to be able to recover the debris since it fell not only within our territorial space, but on what we believe is frozen water," Kirby said. "So, a recovery effort will be made, and we're hopeful that it will be successful and then we can learn a little bit more about it."

https://www.yahoo.com/gma/us-shoots-down-another-balloon-193715718.html

[chaos]

See what happens when you take our advice and stand up for yourself and your great ideas.

See what hypocrites liberals look like defending Biden allowing a spy balloon to fly over our entire country before shooting it down?

Don't underestimate yourself. 

The less we have to do, the more we seek entertainment from the simple minded.

[LurkerNoMore]

See what hypocrites liberals look like defending Biden allowing a spy balloon to fly over our entire country before shooting it down?
The less we have to do, the more we seek entertainment from the simple minded.

Biden shot down 2.  Any POTUS shoot down more?  Or any?  Please share.

[Wayne Tracker]

Straw,

I see you admit now it's not about concern for people or property, but about capturing the spy balloon debris in the easiest way possible...at least that's their new story now and you are going along with it.

Straw, the US government is now claiming they knew about the spy balloon when it was over Alaska, actually even before, when it was over US islands off the coast of Alaska.  So the US military decided to let it fly all over the US, over military bases, spy, collect secret information while transmitting it to China, then shoot it down after it was done spying?  Come on, man.

I see you blindly trust the US military and the commander in chief 100% and never question what they do or why they do it.  Good for you.

Wrong again
This seems to be a pattern in your post
Recovery was only one aspect of the decision, that analysis of which has been beaten to death by now
The point is that the military didn't really know what to expect when attempting to shoot this down and the same is sure of shit true of you as well
Again, if you've somehow acquired some expertise in this type of situation you still haven't bother to share that with us

And  for the record, yeah I put more credence in what the military says about this situation than what you say

[loco]

Wrong again
This seems to be a pattern in your post
Recovery was only one aspect of the decision, that analysis of which has been beaten to death by now
The point is that the military didn't really know what to expect when attempting to shoot this down and the same is sure of shit true of you as well
Again, if you've somehow acquired some expertise in this type of situation you still haven't bother to share that with us

And  for the record, yeah I put more credence in what the military says about this situation than what you say

Straw,

The US government is now claiming they knew about the spy balloon when it was over Alaska, actually even before, when it was over US islands off the coast of Alaska.  So the US military decided to let it fly all over the US, over military bases, spy, collect secret information while transmitting it to China, then shoot it down after it was done spying?  Come on, man.

[Coach is Back!]

Wrong again
This seems to be a pattern in your post
Recovery was only one aspect of the decision, that analysis of which has been beaten to death by now
The point is that the military didn't really know what to expect when attempting to shoot this down and the same is sure of shit true of you as well
Again, if you've somehow acquired some expertise in this type of situation you still haven't bother to share that with us

And  for the record, yeah I put more credence in what the military says about this situation than what you say

Our joint chiefs have little to no credibility…Milley has zero credibility

[LurkerNoMore]

Our joint chiefs have little to no credibility…Milley has zero credibility

You have even less than that.  So I think everyone will go with what the military talking heads say as opposed to you.

[Wayne Tracker]

Straw,

The US government is now claiming they knew about the spy balloon when it was over Alaska, actually even before, when it was over US islands off the coast of Alaska.  So the US military decided to let it fly all over the US, over military bases, spy, collect secret information while transmitting it to China, then shoot it down after it was done spying?  Come on, man.

I assume you're aware that  Defense Department said China’s intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance-capable (ISR) satellite fleet had more than 260 systems, second only to the U.S., as of the end of 2021.

Why don't you stop wasting your time on this board and contact the military and tell them how concerned you are about that

BTW  - I'm much more interested in the "objects" that were shot down over the last two days that this balloon

If you're want to keep whining be my guest but I'm done reading your nonsense

[Coach is Back!]

You have even less than that.  So I think everyone will go with what the military talking heads say as opposed to you.

You, Straw and Prime come on for a live debate. At the very least you and straw are cowards and all three too fucking stupid to vote

[illuminati]

Our joint chiefs have little to no credibility…Milley has zero credibility

Sadly we are now seeing where there is so much corruption & underhandedness
going on - It appears in many countries the elected officials & folk in positions of authority
are compromised & for all intents & purpose being told what to do & say.

The Virus fiasco exposed so much skulduggery & more to come out.

[LurkerNoMore]

You, Straw and Prime come on for a live debate. At the very least you and straw are cowards and all three too fucking stupid to vote

No one is debating a retard.  You can't even stop your own posts from blowing up in your face and a debate is going to be no different.  Nothing but lies, CTs and general off topic bullshit.  Just like on here.

Sucks to be an autism affect oompa loompa like you. 

[loco]

I assume you're aware that  Defense Department said China’s intelligence, surveillance, and reconnaissance-capable (ISR) satellite fleet had more than 260 systems, second only to the U.S., as of the end of 2021.

Why don't you stop wasting your time on this board and contact the military and tell them how concerned you are about that

BTW  - I'm much more interested in the "objects" that were shot down over the last two days that this balloon

If you're want to keep whining be my guest but I'm done reading your nonsense

But StrawMan, first you said waiting to shoot the spy balloon down was all about concern for people and property.  You've changed your story saying now it's about recovering the spy balloon debris the easiest way possible, or both.  You make stuff up as you go.

The US government knew about the spy balloon when it was over US islands off the coast of Alaska.  So the US military decided to let it fly all over the US, over military bases, spy, collect secret information while transmitting it to China, then shoot it down after it was done spying?  Come on, man.

StrawMan, why did you stop posting under your old account and create this gimmick account?  Never figured you for one to create gimmick accounts, yet here you are.

Did you post incriminating stuff under your old account that can get you cancelled outside this forum by your libtard peers?

[chaos]

But StrawMan, first you said waiting to shoot the spy balloon down was all about concern for people and property.  You've changed your story saying now it's about recovering the spy balloon debris the easiest way possible, or both.  You make stuff up as you go.

The US government knew about the spy balloon when it was over US islands off the coast of Alaska.  So the US military decided to let it fly all over the US, over military bases, spy, collect secret information while transmitting it to China, then shoot it down after it was done spying?  Come on, man.

StrawMan, why did you stop posting under your old account and create this gimmick account?  Never figured you for one to create gimmick accounts, yet here you are.

Did you post incriminating stuff under your old account that can get you cancelled outside this forum by your libtard peers?

Getlibs are trying to deflect and avoid any recognition of the fact that their messiah allowed a chinese balloon to float across the entire US by focusing on the other 2 that have been shot down. Nevermind the fact that they used the excuse that it was impossible to shoot down the first balloon since people on the ground could have been hurt, but apparently they don't care about anyone on the ground now.

[LurkerNoMore]

Getlibs are trying to deflect and avoid any recognition of the fact that their messiah allowed a chinese balloon to float across the entire US by focusing on the other 2 that have been shot down. Nevermind the fact that they used the excuse that it was impossible to shoot down the first balloon since people on the ground could have been hurt, but apparently they don't care about anyone on the ground now.

Isn't it 3 now?  Since Biden just popped that one in Canada?  3 shot down in 2 countries.  Good times!!!

[loco]

Isn't it 3 now?  Since Biden just popped that one in Canada?  3 shot down in 2 countries.  Good times!!!

The one Friday and the one yesterday were both UFOs, first time in history the US military fires on a UFO, probably because of the backlash from not shooting down the identified China spy balloon a lot sooner.

[LurkerNoMore]

The one Friday and the one yesterday were both UFOs, first time in history the US military fires on a UFO, probably because of the backlash from not shooting down the identified China spy balloon a lot sooner.

3 kills, 2 countries, and at least 2 planets.  Good times!!!

[chaos]

The one Friday and the one yesterday were both UFOs, first time in history the US military fires on a UFO, probably because of the backlash from not shooting down the identified China spy balloon a lot sooner.

You're trying to converse logically with a guy that voted for and idolizes another guy with dementia. He'll drag you to his level then beat you with experience.

BTW, China is now saying they're going to shoot down a "ufo" over China. Thanks to Biden, we now have a war games playing out in the skies.

[LurkerNoMore]

You're trying to converse logically with a guy that voted for and idolizes another guy with dementia. He'll drag you to his level then beat you with experience.

BTW, China is now saying they're going to shoot down a "ufo" over China. Thanks to Biden, we now have a war games playing out in the skies.

You sound depressed Fetterbro.  Did Biden's televised ass whipping of the Trumpturds at SOTU hurt you that bad?

[Wayne Tracker]

The one Friday and the one yesterday were both UFOs, first time in history the US military fires on a UFO, probably because of the backlash from not shooting down the identified China spy balloon a lot sooner.

Nope, much more likely they shot these two objects down because they were both at ~ 40k feet which is a danger to civilian aircraft
Of course there is no need to explain this to you since you're world renowned expert in these matters

BTW - now Republicans are referring to Biden as "trigger happy".

It's almost as if they just want to complain no matter what he does

I wonder if we'll ever see these "objects" that were shot down the last couple of days

One (I think the one shot down yesterday) was described as cylindrical and not moving (stationary @ 40k feet?) and some pilots said it “interfered with their sensors,” but other pilots said they didn’t experience that.

[loco]

Nope, much more likely they shot these two objects down because they were both at ~ 40k feet which is a danger to civilian aircraft
Of course there is no need to explain this to you since you're world renowned expert in these matters

BTW - now Republicans are referring to Biden as "trigger happy".

It's almost as if they just want to complain no matter what he does

I wonder if we'll ever see these "objects" that were shot down the last couple of days

One (I think the one shot down yesterday) was described as cylindrical and not moving (stationary @ 40k feet?) and some pilots said it “interfered with their sensors,” but other pilots said they didn’t experience that.

UFOs have been spotted by the military at 40k before, and the military never fired on them until now....because now they are a danger to civilian aircraft?  Come on, man.

StrawMan, I thought you said you were done reading my posts.  Making stuff up as you go, as usual.

Why did you stop posting under your old account and create this gimmick account?  Never figured you for one to create gimmick accounts, yet here you are.

Did you post incriminating stuff under your old account that can get you cancelled outside this forum by your libtard peers?

[Wayne Tracker]

StrawMan, I thought you said you were done reading my posts.  Making stuff up as you go, as usual.

Why did you stop posting under your old account and create this gimmick account?  Never figured you for one to create gimmick accounts, yet here you are.

Did you post incriminating stuff under your old account that can get you cancelled outside this forum by your libtard peers?

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks
I guess that shouldn't be a surprise

I said I was done reading your nonsense about the Chinese balloon and I was much more interested in the two unidentified objects that we just shot down

And what was my response to about?

Was it about the Chinese balloon or the two UFO's

I have to admit that it's a drag to have to explain literally EVERYTHING to you over and over again

[loco]

As usual, your reading comprehension sucks
I guess that shouldn't be a surprise

I said I was done reading your nonsense about the Chinese balloon and I was much more interested in the two unidentified objects that we just shot down

And what was my response to about?

Was it about the Chinese balloon or the two UFO's

I have to admit that it's a drag to have to explain literally EVERYTHING to you over and over again

No, StrawMan, you said you were done reading my posts.  Making stuff up as you go, as usual.

UFOs have been spotted by the military at 40k before, and the military never fired on them until now....because now they are a danger to civilian aircraft?  Come on, man.

Why did you stop posting under your old account and create this gimmick account?  Never figured you for one to create gimmick accounts, yet here you are.

Did you post incriminating stuff under your old account that can get you cancelled outside this forum by your libtard peers?