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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #700 on: November 03, 2023, 05:51:19 AM »
Imagine when "Meh, collateral casualties" doesn't cut the mustard, Muzzies unite, and the US yet again spends more trillions in the lameassed Middle East.

Imagine MAGA guys cheering on Joe Biden and Lindsey Graham as they further bankrupt their kids and send them overseas to die.


I'll take Israel over Islam but I wouldn't spend US money or lives on it. Good luck. Let us know how it all works out.

But we're there. And someone takes a shot at us. Or maybe we just say they do. Hang on to your butts.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #701 on: November 03, 2023, 06:11:07 AM »
You hate Israel because it’s a Leftists pet cause. Otherwise you wouldn’t give a fuck one way or the other.

But why don’t you tell us about genocide. Oh wait, population growth rate and life expectancy there is higher than all other countries in the area.

Where did I mention genocide?  ???

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #702 on: November 03, 2023, 07:41:47 AM »
Then all my antivaxxers moved to Israel. And just like that...



The greatest trick the deepstate ever pulled was getting people to support something that doesn't benefit them at all, simply because the other side opposes it.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #703 on: November 03, 2023, 09:22:29 AM »
Thanks Abe

I always thought you were black, but you are jewish right?

I'm neither but keep that on the down low. 😉

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #704 on: November 03, 2023, 09:39:17 AM »
Another day, another horrendous war crime committed by the IDF  :-X

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/11/3/several-killled-in-israeli-attack-on-ambulance-convoy-gaza-health-ministry

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Several people have been killed and dozens of others wounded in an Israeli attack on an ambulance convoy near the al-Shifa hospital in the besieged Gaza Strip, according to the Palestinian health ministry.

A convoy of ambulances was transporting critically wounded patients from al-Shifa hospital to the Rafah border crossing with Egypt when it was targeted in an Israeli attack on Friday, said Ashraf al-Qudra, a spokesman for the health ministry in Gaza.

“We informed the Red Cross and the Red Crescent, we informed the whole world, that those victims were lined up in those ambulances,” he said.

“This was a medical convoy.”

The Israeli military said it was looking into the report.

This is a developing story. More to follow.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #705 on: November 03, 2023, 11:47:53 AM »
Imagine when "Meh, collateral casualties" doesn't cut the mustard, Muzzies unite, and the US yet again spends more trillions in the lameassed Middle East.

Imagine MAGA guys cheering on Joe Biden and Lindsey Graham as they further bankrupt their kids and send them overseas to die.


I'll take Israel over Islam but I wouldn't spend US money or lives on it. Good luck. Let us know how it all works out.

But we're there. And someone takes a shot at us. Or maybe we just say they do. Hang on to your butts.

It's pretty much the opposite.

Israel has to mow down a few dozen villages, to ensure that people understand allying with iran means war crimes are not a thing.

We nuked Hiroshima to end a war, what can we do to prevent one.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #706 on: November 03, 2023, 11:57:30 AM »
Yeah, because they’re doing so badly compared to their Sand Dindu neighbors. This is the real reason Libtards hate the country. It’s an example of free market success in an area where there is none:



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel

 It has the second-largest number of startup companies in the world after the United States,[27][needs update]and the third-largest number of NASDAQ-listed companies after the U.S. and China.[28] American companies, such as Intel,[29] Microsoft,[30] and Apple,[31][32] built their first overseas research and development facilities in Israel. More than 400 high-tech multi-national corporations, such as IBM, Google, Hewlett-Packard, Cisco Systems, Facebook and Motorola have opened R&D centers throughout the country.[33]

Libturdz, comical how brainless they are....

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #707 on: November 03, 2023, 12:31:20 PM »
As an independent Palestinian state this area would be armed with conventional armed forces, and probably filled with Iranian and Hezbollah militants and covered with modern missile systems aimed at Israel.


Modern systems as in Russian or Chinese?

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #708 on: November 03, 2023, 12:54:01 PM »
Modern systems as in Russian or Chinese?

Yes.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #709 on: November 03, 2023, 12:58:24 PM »
Because if there is peace, they will be expected to make concessions ie. the two state solution.  The right wingers/hawks in Israel don't want that.  Sadly for Israel and it's supporters, the lack of a two state solution will lead to the inevitable non existence of Israel as a Jewish state.

Palestine doesn't want a two state solution, so what Israel wants is moot.
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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #710 on: November 03, 2023, 04:33:50 PM »
The reason Jews are in Israel is because Europe didnt want them after the war

FACT

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #711 on: November 03, 2023, 05:18:21 PM »
Palestine Israel doesn't want a two state solution, so what Israel Palestine wants is moot.

Your serve.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #712 on: November 03, 2023, 05:46:28 PM »
The reason Jews are in Israel is because Europe didnt want them after the war

FACT

Nobody wants them in any other country .
Just the same as Mooslime's they're not wanted even in other Islamic countries.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #713 on: November 03, 2023, 06:01:55 PM »
It's pretty much the opposite.

Israel has to mow down a few dozen villages, to ensure that people understand allying with iran means war crimes are not a thing.

We nuked Hiroshima to end a war, what can we do to prevent one.

Ok. Then there's no reason for the US to spend its money and resources to support Israel.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #714 on: November 03, 2023, 07:22:56 PM »
Ok. Then there's no reason for the US to spend its money and resources to support Israel.

Theres massive oil and gas reserves within Gaza and off the coast, and US wants that to be controlled by Israel.

You can read about it here:
https://unctad.org/system/files/official-document/gdsapp2019d1_en.pdf

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #715 on: November 04, 2023, 01:22:56 AM »
Theres massive oil and gas reserves within Gaza and off the coast, and US wants that to be controlled by Israel.

You can read about it here:
https://unctad.org/system/files/official-document/gdsapp2019d1_en.pdf
There is always a hidden agenda.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #716 on: November 04, 2023, 02:51:27 AM »
Then all my antivaxxers moved to Israel. And just like that...



The greatest trick the deepstate ever pulled was getting people to support something that doesn't benefit them at all, simply because the other side opposes it.

Why would we do that when Israel was the Guinea pig for the Vax? The current percent of the population that is boosted is 3%. So at this point everyone in an antivaxxer.


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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #717 on: November 04, 2023, 02:57:03 AM »
The reason Jews are in Israel is because Europe didnt want them after the war

FACT

Germany is the strongest economy is the Eurozone. France is #2. Look up Greece and Spain:

It’s even more impressive when you consider the amount of resources they have to devote to security:


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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #718 on: November 04, 2023, 02:57:47 AM »
Germany

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #719 on: November 04, 2023, 04:34:45 AM »
I try to disregard most of the stupid links and conspiracy theories posted by the familiar nematodes of the forum, but some of these really make me shake my head in disbelief.

It’s as though some of you are worried that you're going to get called a 'libturd' for stating that Israel is deliberately and unjustly bombing a civilian population and guaranteeing a rise of terrorism around the world. What is it that we are so fond of saying? Facts don't care about feelings? Then grow some balls and state the facts. You're not the ones being paid or blackmailed to regurgitate bullshit, so feel free to remove your jingoist blinkers and look at things outside of an insular Democrat vs Republican framework. There's a whole world out there.

Not to personally attack Thin Lizzy, but to focus on one example of an otherwise decent poster, as far as I can recall, making some of the most absurd points I've ever read here.

Yeah, because they’re doing so badly compared to their Sand Dindu neighbors. This is the real reason Libtards hate the country. It’s an example of free market success in an area where there is none:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_of_Israel


Thin Lizzy, and I'm sure he's not alone, wants to derogate from a peremptory norm of international law and murder civilians on the basis of the victims being poor and less successful than Israel economically—as an occupied state under unlawful blockade, without control over their resources, let's not forget.

The indigenous population are therefore morally irrelevant and anyone defending them is obviously doing so out of a pathological desire to support 'leftist' ideologies like international law and basic rights, haha.

These arguments, if one is even willing to call them that, are utterly incoherent. I am genuinely baffled as to why someone would defenestrate every ounce of integrity merely to excuse the inexcusable and avoid being categorized as some sort of BLM-supporting kiddie fiddler in a dress and high heels.

This is not a particularly complex issue. Certainly not with regard to understanding history and current intent.

As stated in the UNCTAD report, in 1967, when Israel occupied the Gaza Strip, the West Bank, and East Jerusalem, it 'annexed Palestinian markets in these areas into its own economy, in a selective, unequal and asymmetrical manner.' Prior to the occupation, it was a lower-middle-income economy. Of course they are going to be performing terribly across economic growth indicators, lol.

As to the supposedly erroneous labelling of genocide, again, look at the facts.

Over the past few weeks, the Health Ministry in Gaza (which is known to be reliable) reported approximately 9200 people killed, at least 3800 of them being children.

Israel is not even attempting to hide its genocidal intent. Distinction, proportionality, and military necessity are fundamental principles governing conduct in war, and Israel has completely disregarded them in favor of quoting biblical scripture as they bomb civilians and destroy Gaza's infrastructure.

So, who is warning about potential genocide? Well, over 800 scholars and practitioners of international law, conflict studies and genocide studies have signed a public statement warning of the possibility of genocide being perpetrated in Gaza. Signatories include prominent Holocaust and genocide studies scholars.

Hundreds of USAID officials have signed a letter calling on the Biden administration to push for 'an immediate ceasefire and cessation of hostilities.' It also called for the US to join the international community in 'holding all parties, including the State of Israel, to international law.'

United Nations human rights official, Craig Mokhiber, resigned over what he described as a 'text-book case of genocide' in Gaza.

Josh Paul, the now former director of congressional and public affairs for the State Department’s Bureau of Political-Military Affairs has resigned over the Biden administration’s 'blind support for one side', which was leading to policy decisions that were 'short-sighted, destructive, unjust and contradictory to the very values we publicly espouse.'

Various UN special rapporteurs have called for an immediate ceasefire and said that the Palestinian people 'are at grave risk of genocide.'

Bolivia has cut official ties with Israel over its disproportionate use of force. Mexico, Brazil, Colombia and Chile called for a ceasefire, with the latter two recalling their ambassadors. Pakistan's upper house of parliament just passed a unanimous resolution condemning Israel's war crimes. Russia called for a ceasefire. China called for a ceasefire. The African Union called for a ceasefire. The Arab states have obviously called for a ceasefire. It goes on and on:  most of the world is calling for an immediate ceasefire and for humanitarian aid to be delivered to the dying civilian population. Israel has ignored them.

Prosecuting war crimes (e.g. collective punishment, genocide, etc.) under international law can be particularly difficult due to the complexities involved (such as proving specific intent, among other things). Justifying these crimes, however, especially by citing birth rates and other such nonsense, is untenable, embarrassing, and those attempting to do so are simply divorced from reality.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #720 on: November 04, 2023, 04:39:10 AM »
Germany is the strongest economy is the Eurozone. France is #2. Look up Greece and Spain:

It’s even more impressive when you consider the amount of resources they have to devote to security:



Not as of late, the loss of cheap Russian gas has crippled their industries.

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ESSEN, Germany -- For most of this century, Germany racked up one economic success after another, dominating global markets for high-end products like luxury cars and industrial machinery, selling so much to the rest of the world that half the economy ran on exports.

Jobs were plentiful, the government's financial coffers grew as other European countries drowned in debt, and books were written about what other countries could learn from Germany.

No longer. Now, Germany is the world’s worst-performing major developed economy, with both the International Monetary Fund and European Union expecting it to shrink this year.

It follows Russia's invasion of Ukraine and the loss of Moscow's cheap natural gas — an unprecedented shock to Germany’s energy-intensive industries, long the manufacturing powerhouse of Europe.

https://abcnews.go.com/Business/wireStory/global-ideal-germanys-economy-struggles-energy-shock-exposing-103300208

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #721 on: November 04, 2023, 04:44:22 AM »
I try to disregard most of the stupid links and conspiracy theories posted by the familiar nematodes of the forum, but some of these really make me shake my head in disbelief.

It’s as though some of you are worried that you're going to get called a 'libturd' for stating that Israel is deliberately and unjustly bombing a civilian population and guaranteeing a rise of terrorism around the world. What is it that we are so fond of saying? Facts don't care about feelings? Then grow some balls and state the facts. You're not the ones being paid or blackmailed to regurgitate bullshit, so feel free to remove your jingoist blinkers and look at things outside of an insular Democrat vs Republican framework. There's a whole world out there.

Outstanding post, far too good to be posted here  ;D

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #722 on: November 04, 2023, 05:05:14 AM »
Rocket attacks fired at Israel from the Gaza Strip, 2001-2021:


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« Reply #723 on: November 04, 2023, 05:24:04 AM »
Outstanding post, far too good to be posted here  ;D

Thank you, haha. I'm full of the cold, so I had nothing better to do than respond to our Getbig brothers.

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Re: Israel Attacked - by Hamas - Discussion?
« Reply #724 on: November 04, 2023, 05:36:34 AM »
Since October 7th, more than 8000 rockets have been fired at Israel, with over 300 rockets fired every day.

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/defence/over-8000-rockets-fired-at-israel-250000-civilians-evacuated-from-their-homes-idf/articleshow/104937424.cms