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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #850 on: August 22, 2025, 11:39:33 AM »
Not bad

My major gigs are....

Complete and total freedom of speech and action (as long as no harm befalls on others)

Absolutely minimal govt involvement

And this cancel culture hosershit needs to fuck the right off

DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO or how to think

You live in russia

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #851 on: August 22, 2025, 11:50:42 AM »
You live in russia

I did

And its more free than shitsa

Much more freedom of speech and ZERO cancel culture

P.S. cancel.cultrer comes from political correctness

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #852 on: August 22, 2025, 12:50:20 PM »
Not bad

My major gigs are....

Complete and total freedom of speech and action (as long as no harm befalls on others)

Absolutely minimal govt involvement

And this cancel culture hosershit needs to fuck the right off

DO NOT TELL ME WHAT TO DO or how to think

Putting childish ideals aside, there's no such thing as complete freedom of speech anywehere and there never will be. Control of information is one if the main fronts in wars, in politics and in governance. In civilian society.
Musk childishly claimed to be a 'free speech absolutist' and then when he gets insulted he blocks his enemies on X in various ways. He said something mild on X about Jews and had to do a tour of Auschwitz lighting candles and the go to the wailing wall. Like a pathetic worm he had to crawl before his masters LOL. I'm sure Trump has said he is for freedom of speech, railed against the censorious and fake media, but Trump has taken censorship to the next level now with the Universities and etc. People like Coach will call be liberal and a Biden lover for saying
stuff like this, how I obviously must love the liberal education given, or forced on people, at Universities. It's knee jerk, childish reaction without thinking about the various points, the hypocricies and so on. No matter how much the "conservatives" here say they hate for example the often insane HBTQ+ propganda disseminated in Universities, most still wouldn't applaud what the Nazis did with the Jews and their "HBTQ" institutions. The University problem is an interesting one, you try to flush out the commies you then run into the propblem of targeting a certain ethnicity, so what to do LOL.

And Zionism isn't about censorship :D

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #853 on: August 22, 2025, 01:11:54 PM »
Putting childish ideals aside, there's no such thing as complete freedom of speech anywehere and there never will be. Control of information is one if the main fronts in wars, in politics and in governance. In civilian society.
Musk childishly claimed to be a 'free speech absolutist' and then when he gets insulted he blocks his enemies on X in various ways. He said something mild on X about Jews and had to do a tour of Auschwitz lighting candles and the go to the wailing wall. Like a pathetic worm he had to crawl before his masters LOL. I'm sure Trump has said he is for freedom of speech, railed against the censorious and fake media, but Trump has taken censorship to the next level now with the Universities and etc. People like Coach will call be liberal and a Biden lover for saying
stuff like this, how I obviously must love the liberal education given, or forced on people, at Universities. It's knee jerk, childish reaction without thinking about the various points, the hypocricies and so on. No matter how much the "conservatives" here say they hate for example the often insane HBTQ+ propganda disseminated in Universities, most still wouldn't applaud what the Nazis did with the Jews and their "HBTQ" institutions. The University problem is an interesting one, you try to flush out the commies you then run into the propblem of targeting a certain ethnicity, so what to do LOL.

And Zionism isn't about censorship :D

You can be pro free speech,  anti-anti-semitic and anti-dis/misinformation.  They're not mutually exclusive.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #854 on: August 22, 2025, 01:26:11 PM »
Like GAYvid dyke once said...

Freedom of speech is just that freedom to say whatever the fuck you want to say

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #855 on: August 22, 2025, 02:38:33 PM »
You can be pro free speech,  anti-anti-semitic and anti-dis/misinformation.  They're not mutually exclusive.

Sure in theory, I guess. Though if you're very anti-something you likely want to censor that. See the ADL for example. :D

Remember Bondi said there were tens of thousands of abuse videos ??? Now there are no videos, no cameras either. But Maxwell absolved Trump so we can trust her.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #856 on: August 22, 2025, 03:25:42 PM »
Sure in theory, I guess. Though if you're very anti-something you likely want to censor that. See the ADL for example. :D

Remember Bondi said there were tens of thousands of abuse videos ??? Now there are no videos, no cameras either. But Maxwell absolved Trump so we can trust her.

No, hate speech is not protected under the first amendment if it promotes violence or direct threats to individuals.  That's what was happening on campuses.

No idea how this translates to Bondi's statement. But since you brought it up, she did say after that the videos were child porn. I'm not a fan in the way any of the Epstein stuff has been handled, and still hope the guilty get what they deserve.  My only comment politically was that I'm not going to believe that the left wing ever cared about this, and it's obvious their interest is only to try to link Trump to it.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #857 on: August 23, 2025, 04:35:46 PM »
No, hate speech is not protected under the first amendment if it promotes violence or direct threats to individuals.  That's what was happening on campuses.


Come on man, anything can be classified as "hate speech," it all depends on who is doing the classification. I think it's almost unbelievable you brought it up here. "Hate speech" is only hate if it's against "protected groups." You can guess which groups are protected and which not. It's all opinion.

I don't know exactly which statements on campuses you are referring to, but for example:

Saying "IDF are terrorists" is probably viewed as hate speech by you and many others. But since terrorism means targeting civilians that statement should be allowed imo, at least you can debate it. Of course saying Hamas are terrorists isn't hate speech, although to someone else it might be a legitimate resistance movement covered by international law. Of course you won't agree, but what I'm saying is that it's not black and white. Or if protesters say "from the river to the sea" they will say it implies Holocausting the Jews, but no one is coming after someone talking about 'Greater Israel.' And obviously we have the new definition of antisemitism which includes criticism of the Israeli state, it's "hate." IMO saying Israel is a terror state, was founded with terrorist tactics, in fact modern terrorism was invented in Israel, is all fact but it's hate speech in much of the world.

From Wiki, you can read the whole article there.

IHRA definition of antisemitism

Antisemitism is hatred toward Jews because they are Jews and is directed toward the Jewish religion and Jews individually or collectively. More recently, antisemitism has been manifested in the demonization of the State of Israel.

"Accompanying the working definition are 11 illustrative examples, seven of which relate to criticism of Israel, that the IHRA describes as guiding its work on antisemitism."

"The examples relating to Israel have been criticised by academics, including legal scholars, who say that they are often used to weaponize antisemitism in order to stifle free speech relating to criticism of Israeli actions and policies. High-profile controversies took place in the United Kingdom in 2011 within the University and College Union, and within the Labour Party in 2018. Critics say weaknesses in the working definition may lend themselves to abuse, that it may obstruct campaigning for the rights of Palestinians (as in the Palestine exception), and that it is too vague.[14][15][c] Kenneth S. Stern, who contributed to the original draft, has opposed the weaponization of the definition on college campuses in ways that might undermine free speech."


Regarding the Left Wing, and I'm trying to understand it myself, what are the main differences that cause this hard divide between a left winger liberal and a conservative right winger? I can sense some of it as well. You often hear from many, on getbig too, that liberals are mentally ill and can't think, they "have no brains!" Recently I saw a few argue that in the past it was usual for families to lose maybe even half of their children as infants, now almost everyone survives, no matter how unfit and weak they are. So the argument goes that these weak specimens who are genetically inferior and mentally ill... they are now today's Democrats and Liberals! They literally do have something wrong with their brains! Without researching it, would you automatically dismiss this theory? :D ;D

Of course, right wingers have been accused by Jew Marxists psychiatrists of being genetically mentally ill too, or at least have been infected with a brain virus.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #858 on: August 23, 2025, 07:56:12 PM »
Come on man, anything can be classified as "hate speech," it all depends on who is doing the classification. I think it's almost unbelievable you brought it up here. "Hate speech" is only hate if it's against "protected groups." You can guess which groups are protected and which not. It's all opinion.

I don't know exactly which statements on campuses you are referring to, but for example:

Saying "IDF are terrorists" is probably viewed as hate speech by you and many others. But since terrorism means targeting civilians that statement should be allowed imo, at least you can debate it. Of course saying Hamas are terrorists isn't hate speech, although to someone else it might be a legitimate resistance movement covered by international law. Of course you won't agree, but what I'm saying is that it's not black and white. Or if protesters say "from the river to the sea" they will say it implies Holocausting the Jews, but no one is coming after someone talking about 'Greater Israel.' And obviously we have the new definition of antisemitism which includes criticism of the Israeli state, it's "hate." IMO saying Israel is a terror state, was founded with terrorist tactics, in fact modern terrorism was invented in Israel, is all fact but it's hate speech in much of the world.

From Wiki, you can read the whole article there.

IHRA definition of antisemitism

Antisemitism is hatred toward Jews because they are Jews and is directed toward the Jewish religion and Jews individually or collectively. More recently, antisemitism has been manifested in the demonization of the State of Israel.

"Accompanying the working definition are 11 illustrative examples, seven of which relate to criticism of Israel, that the IHRA describes as guiding its work on antisemitism."

"The examples relating to Israel have been criticised by academics, including legal scholars, who say that they are often used to weaponize antisemitism in order to stifle free speech relating to criticism of Israeli actions and policies. High-profile controversies took place in the United Kingdom in 2011 within the University and College Union, and within the Labour Party in 2018. Critics say weaknesses in the working definition may lend themselves to abuse, that it may obstruct campaigning for the rights of Palestinians (as in the Palestine exception), and that it is too vague.[14][15][c] Kenneth S. Stern, who contributed to the original draft, has opposed the weaponization of the definition on college campuses in ways that might undermine free speech."


Regarding the Left Wing, and I'm trying to understand it myself, what are the main differences that cause this hard divide between a left winger liberal and a conservative right winger? I can sense some of it as well. You often hear from many, on getbig too, that liberals are mentally ill and can't think, they "have no brains!" Recently I saw a few argue that in the past it was usual for families to lose maybe even half of their children as infants, now almost everyone survives, no matter how unfit and weak they are. So the argument goes that these weak specimens who are genetically inferior and mentally ill... they are now today's Democrats and Liberals! They literally do have something wrong with their brains! Without researching it, would you automatically dismiss this theory? :D ;D

Of course, right wingers have been accused by Jew Marxists psychiatrists of being genetically mentally ill too, or at least have been infected with a brain virus.

First bolded sentence: I tend to try to follow the conversation and expand on what I'm replying to.  You brought up Trump and universities, so that's the example I used - where our larger, more affluent institutions were not protecting Jewish students from other students.  And the universities knew they were guilty too.  Hence why they're paying millions in fines, and the major schools had two or three Presidents removed.

For bold point number two, no idea why you make that assumption.

For number three, I have no idea why you make so many assumptions.  Why not just make your point?  I'm pretty aware of the grey areas on both sides of this equation.  I'm just not surprised Israel is doing what they are doing. I always assumed after Oct 7th they were going to go to all means to get rid of Hamas.

As for the left, the mentally ill moniker comes from a place of common sense.  I assume you've seen countless examples, unless you're being fed filtered content like funk (it's entirely plausible).   But for those of us who are not, it's not a stretch to call the fat blue haired dude dressed as a woman complaining about period cramps mentally ill.  It's not a stretch to call the old white people screaming and ranting about fascism mentally ill.  It's not a stretch to call a  talk show host who says black women in America have it worse than women under Iranian rule. It's not a stretch to call those who hate our president  so much they voluntarily lose friends and family mentally ill.  Not a stretch to call those still wearing masks outside......etc....you get the picture.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #859 on: August 24, 2025, 01:42:55 AM »
Come on man, anything can be classified as "hate speech," it all depends on who is doing the classification. I think it's almost unbelievable you brought it up here. "Hate speech" is only hate if it's against "protected groups." You can guess which groups are protected and which not. It's all opinion.

I don't know exactly which statements on campuses you are referring to, but for example:

Saying "IDF are terrorists" is probably viewed as hate speech by you and many others. But since terrorism means targeting civilians that statement should be allowed imo, at least you can debate it. Of course saying Hamas are terrorists isn't hate speech, although to someone else it might be a legitimate resistance movement covered by international law. Of course you won't agree, but what I'm saying is that it's not black and white. Or if protesters say "from the river to the sea" they will say it implies Holocausting the Jews, but no one is coming after someone talking about 'Greater Israel.' And obviously we have the new definition of antisemitism which includes criticism of the Israeli state, it's "hate." IMO saying Israel is a terror state, was founded with terrorist tactics, in fact modern terrorism was invented in Israel, is all fact but it's hate speech in much of the world.

From Wiki, you can read the whole article there.

IHRA definition of antisemitism

Antisemitism is hatred toward Jews because they are Jews and is directed toward the Jewish religion and Jews individually or collectively. More recently, antisemitism has been manifested in the demonization of the State of Israel.

"Accompanying the working definition are 11 illustrative examples, seven of which relate to criticism of Israel, that the IHRA describes as guiding its work on antisemitism."

"The examples relating to Israel have been criticised by academics, including legal scholars, who say that they are often used to weaponize antisemitism in order to stifle free speech relating to criticism of Israeli actions and policies. High-profile controversies took place in the United Kingdom in 2011 within the University and College Union, and within the Labour Party in 2018. Critics say weaknesses in the working definition may lend themselves to abuse, that it may obstruct campaigning for the rights of Palestinians (as in the Palestine exception), and that it is too vague.[14][15][c] Kenneth S. Stern, who contributed to the original draft, has opposed the weaponization of the definition on college campuses in ways that might undermine free speech."


Regarding the Left Wing, and I'm trying to understand it myself, what are the main differences that cause this hard divide between a left winger liberal and a conservative right winger? I can sense some of it as well. You often hear from many, on getbig too, that liberals are mentally ill and can't think, they "have no brains!" Recently I saw a few argue that in the past it was usual for families to lose maybe even half of their children as infants, now almost everyone survives, no matter how unfit and weak they are. So the argument goes that these weak specimens who are genetically inferior and mentally ill... they are now today's Democrats and Liberals! They literally do have something wrong with their brains! Without researching it, would you automatically dismiss this theory? :D ;D

Of course, right wingers have been accused by Jew Marxists psychiatrists of being genetically mentally ill too, or at least have been infected with a brain virus.

According to gayvid dyke many of those labeled anti-Semitic are Jews themselves

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #860 on: August 24, 2025, 08:54:14 AM »
Come on man, anything can be classified as "hate speech," it all depends on who is doing the classification. I think it's almost unbelievable you brought it up here. "Hate speech" is only hate if it's against "protected groups." You can guess which groups are protected and which not. It's all opinion.


Gotta agree with this part here. It's evident every day when you see what happens to people that speak out against certain people, cultures, religions, orientations, etc.
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #861 on: August 24, 2025, 08:55:18 AM »
If I tell a vegan I had a steak for my dinner Im pretty sure they would say that was hate speech

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #862 on: August 24, 2025, 09:07:46 AM »
If I tell a vegan I had a steak for my dinner Im pretty sure they would say that was hate speech

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #863 on: August 24, 2025, 09:01:52 PM »
As for the left, the mentally ill moniker comes from a place of common sense.  I assume you've seen countless examples, unless you're being fed filtered content like funk (it's entirely plausible).   But for those of us who are not, it's not a stretch to call the fat blue haired dude dressed as a woman complaining about period cramps mentally ill.  It's not a stretch to call the old white people screaming and ranting about fascism mentally ill.  It's not a stretch to call a  talk show host who says black women in America have it worse than women under Iranian rule. It's not a stretch to call those who hate our president  so much they voluntarily lose friends and family mentally ill.  Not a stretch to call those still wearing masks outside......etc....you get the picture.

Sure, they are certifiably ill as are the Antifa protesters. But the ideology comes from University professors for example. The question for me is what attracts some people to that type of liberal thinking. Is it genetic, at least partly (as everything is IMO and IME)? For me it's not an easy question to answer. If you know a liberal person's stance on one thing you likely know where they fall on many other issues. But sometimes people get the wrong impression, if I criticize Trump some apparently assume I consume a lot of liberal media talking points, that I would have voted for Biden, that funk's and my worldview is somehow similar overall, you still seem to think so, Coach certainly thinks so :D At the same time, sometimes left wing ideologues do slip in, like Richard Wolff. It would be stupid to dismiss everything your so called enemy says. I'm not endorsing him or his views, but sometimes the enemy is "smart" as Tucker and his guest said the other say (not talking about Wolff).



I'm feeding on filtered content to be sure, only it's from the other extreme end compared to funk. An example of filtered content. Got this as ebook, maybe should have gotten a physical copy as I haven't gotten through it yet on the computer. But it's hardly liberal content, nothing funk or even you would ever bother to read. It's bound to be too radical, too right wing! :D


"The radical right is the ultimate challenge to liberalism, and the Cultured Thug is its avatar, the man who can both fight and think. Few have attempted to summarize radical right-wing thought both comprehensively and on its own terms. This book does just that.

The Cultured Thug Handbook sets out 45 key concepts in plain language. From the Deep State to Asabiyyah, from Patriarchy to the Friend–Enemy Distinction, all the major ideas are here. These are the ideas that built our world.
This book pulls no punches, and boldly asserts ideas considered taboo today, but utterly sane and normal for all of human history up until five minutes ago
. It is indispensable for understanding the political right of today."


It's on Amazon. I think I'll grab the physical one as I promised myself to read it. It's not a deep dive into original material, it promises it's concepts explained so an 8-year old can understand :D

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #864 on: August 24, 2025, 09:25:56 PM »
If I tell a vegan I had a steak for my dinner Im pretty sure they would say that was hate speech

 ;D

Gotta move on that terrible Hate Speech

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #865 on: August 24, 2025, 09:32:32 PM »
Sure, they are certifiably ill as are the Antifa protesters. But the ideology comes from University professors for example. The question to me is what attracts some people to that type of liberal thinking. Is it genetic, at least partly (as everything is IMO and IME). For me it's not an easy question to answer.

It is easy to answer, his name is george soros and his ethnicity should be obvious. Soros learned decades ago that he could influence a countries politics and create economic turmoil, which he then profits greatly from (think banks and lenders selling debt at pennies on the dollar during a recession/depression.) If you hate your country and want to destroy it, his open borders non profit will fund you.

And by the way we have hillary clinton to thank for soros being here. He was exiled from hungary and despised the world over.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #866 on: August 25, 2025, 12:11:19 AM »
It is easy to answer, his name is george soros and his ethnicity should be obvious. Soros learned decades ago that he could influence a countries politics and create economic turmoil, which he then profits greatly from (think banks and lenders selling debt at pennies on the dollar during a recession/depression.) If you hate your country and want to destroy it, his open borders non profit will fund you.

And by the way we have hillary clinton to thank for soros being here. He was exiled from hungary and despised the world over.

Would love to torture Soros for.months on end

Watch the pain and fear in his eyes every single.day

Just give me my test and DECA and a gym.then im ready to inflict the pain and terror

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #867 on: August 25, 2025, 12:13:46 AM »
Would love to torture Soros for.months on end

Watch the pain and fear in his eyes every single.day

Just give me my test and DECA and a gym.then im ready to inflict the pain and terror

You take it up the ass dont you
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #869 on: August 25, 2025, 07:01:56 AM »
It would be stupid to dismiss everything your so called enemy says. I'm not endorsing him or his views, but sometimes the enemy is "smart" as Tucker and his guest said the other say (not talking about Wolff).



This is correct.

But it's the basis for a lot of stuff the non-Democrats are saying - right now one major party in the US dismisses/goes against EVERYTHING Trump does. It's their entire identity.  They have no real leadership, no cohesive message, no plan, etc.....

It's causing most of the problems, or the perceived problems.

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #870 on: August 25, 2025, 07:29:37 AM »
You take it up the ass dont you
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No dummy

I shot it ik my quad

Only thing is my cock in another female ass

I do not swing that way

Although like Seinfeld says there is nothing wrong with being gay

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #871 on: August 26, 2025, 06:44:12 PM »

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #872 on: August 26, 2025, 06:46:04 PM »
This is correct.

But it's the basis for a lot of stuff the non-Democrats are saying - right now one major party in the US dismisses/goes against EVERYTHING Trump does. It's their entire identity.  They have no real leadership, no cohesive message, no plan, etc.....

It's causing most of the problems, or the perceived problems.

The democrat party is the soros party and will remain so until the old vampire explodes in sunlight

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #873 on: August 26, 2025, 06:54:41 PM »
Way too much to read here but did the info get released yet or not?

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Re: Yes!!! Trump declassifies the Epstein files - 01-23-25
« Reply #874 on: August 26, 2025, 10:36:07 PM »
Way too much to read here but did the info get released yet or not?

A bunch of rich jews are still being protected. Business as usual.