Anybody here ever run dbol for trt?

[dj181]

I ran deca/dbol cycle with no test for a laugh and I felt and looked great for about six weeks. One day I woke up with crippling anxiety and felt like shit so I pinned some test and within 6hrs started feeling better.  Seems to me like a little bit of test is needed for optimal function, like maybe even 50mg.

I rememberMy skin looking really good and clear, to the point where people were asking me.

Good point

DECA, dbol and primo are anti aging

Whilst tren and especially mast make ya look old as shit

[Van_Bilderass]

I use Sustanon but 10 mgs is not 10 mgs of test as once the esters are cleaned off its roughly 7 mgs of test so you'd still say 10 mgs?

And are you sure you need test if you run dbol? The reason that its stupid to run gear without test is because no estrogen is present dbol provides sufficient estrogen as does ment I guess but I ain't gonna fuck around with ment fuck that shit!

The test at 10mg enanthate is based on blood levels. The dose in itself is irrelevant. Think a little, you think the only function of test is anabolism and supplying estrogen? The resulting estrogen from dbol is not identical to estrogen from test conversion either. But do it your way, if you're happy with it go for it I guess...

DJ with all due respect, did it occur to you that your two biggest problems are a lack of consistency and lack of application of common sense concepts. You've been back on the board a few days and already mentioned changes to training frequency based on the results of two workouts, you've mentioned changes in diet (albeit less so) and in gear use.

If you stuck to a workable training/diet/gear regimen you'd be likely actually make progress.

I think your post is perfect. Change things every day and you will go nowhere.

[dj181]

The test at 10mg enanthate is based on blood levels. The dose in itself is irrelevant. Think a little, you think the only function of test is anabolism and supplying estrogen? The resulting estrogen from dbol is not identical to estrogen from test conversion either. But do it your way, if you're happy with it go for it I guess...

I think your post is perfect. Change things every day and you will go nowhere.

I'm not really changing I'm perfecting

Got the workout down just need to figure out the frequency

Training everything as often as possible to make progress

Back and legs will be trained at maintenance every 8-10 days

If I go more than 12 days between bodyparts I regress and lose strength/performance

Mentzer was dead wrong when he claimed decomposition doesn't start until after 3 weeks more like it starts befroe.2 weeks

[Van_Bilderass]

I'm not really changing I'm perfecting

Got the workout down just need to figure out the frequency

Training everything as often as possible to make progress

Back and legs will be trained at maintenance every 8-10 days

If I go more than 12 days between bodyparts I regress and lose strength/performance

Mentzer was dead wrong when he claimed decomposition doesn't start until after 3 weeks more like it starts befroe.2 weeks

"If you regress in training you aren't really getting weaker. Training doesn't make you weaker. You are just accumulating fatigue. You wash it off with a taper approaching a comp and you will have a peak performance," said some PL coach. Said many coaches in all athletics. You are not going anywhere trying to have a peak performance every single workout, you just make your preset planned lifts for the day, sometimes it's easier, sometimes very hard. You will never find the ideal frequency because it changes all the time based on a multitude of factors.

[Hulkotron]

dj are you working legs these days?

[Grape Ape]

dj are you working legs these days?

Don't pressure him.

He's training for a contest that he can't find and might not exist, which takes dedication and focus.

[dj181]

dj are you working legs these days?

Occasionally

Yesterday I opted for machine leg press over barbell squats

Didn't feel like loading a 90 pound barbell on my delts😄😄😄

I'll do leg press or squats every 10 days or so and wide grip chins of lat pulldowns the same

I will not try and progressively overlord either one of them

Haven't joined a regular gym yet coz still don't have a flat

At this gym I'm training at now I have maxed out the pec Dec and machine lateral so I can not progressively overload them even though I want too

Hopefully the gym I join will have different machine lateral and pec Dec machines so that I can load them more

My accessory lifts are pec dec , machine lateral, db incline curls (I won't max those out since the bells go.up to 110 lbs) and db overhead tri ext (same as I won't ever be able to do 110 on that I think)

[oldgolds]

My.diet is far from.starvation I eat around 3000 cals a day I'm just genetically gifted to be ripped and dry and AESTHETIC

I'm cursed when it comes to.adding muscle tissue but I'm over that and I don't give a flying fuck bout adding muscle I just wanna have superhuman strength realitve to bodyweight

With training I'm trying to.train as often as possible to make strength gains and so far bis are getting stronger every 48 hours bench not

So I'll take bench to every 3 days even though I already know it gets stronger every 4 days but I'm just being greedy

Here's curl day..... 1. Strict curl one set to failure 3-5 reps 2. DB incline curl one set to failure 3-8 reps 3. Machine side lateral one set to failure 3-8 reps although I just did the whole 200 pound stack for 6 reps to failure, it ain't possible to stack extra weights there but I'm still living in hotel waiting on my mom's next big transfer so I can score a flat then I'll join a gym nearby that hopefully has a heavier side lateral machine but if not I'll just maintain it at the stack for 8 reps not adding reps

Bench day is... 1. One set of 5 2 seconds paused compition bench press 2. 5-6 inch rack lockouts for triples one set 3. End range.pec deck one set 3-8 reps although I did the stack today for 10 reps to failure 4. DB overhead TRI extension one set 3-8 reps to failure 5. Rotator cuff work

I'll do a set of full barbell squats every 3rd bicep day along with one set of wide grip chins

Genetically gifted?   Lol,    Because you respond well to drugs/steroids?...No, genetically gifted is when you don't need drugs to build muscle/strength...What a sick culture you clowns belong to....

[dj181]

Don't pressure him.

He's training for a contest that he can't find and might not exist, which takes dedication and focus.

Hahahahaha

If I can't find one I'll just make vids of the curl and press

I've been watching ipf raw meets and even the super heavies can't bench 500 pounds

Meanwhile some 48ers which is my class are pressing 400 goddam pounds

Those fat shits are pathetically weak, can't even press double bodyweight ffs

[beakdoctor]

No gains in muscle, sex, money or literacy for decades.

Ouch!

[joswift]

DJ with all due respect, did it occur to you that your two biggest problems are a lack of consistency and lack of application of common sense concepts. You've been back on the board a few days and already mentioned changes to training frequency based on the results of two workouts, you've mentioned changes in diet (albeit less so) and in gear use.

If you stuck to a workable training/diet/gear regimen you'd be likely actually make progress. All you seem to have going for you is low bodyfat currently and that's mostly genetic I'll wager. and the rest due to your starvation diet.

Witrh regard to common sense - here's my take, you don't eat nearly enough so why the fuck even bother with gear? Your cycle, to be honest looks less than ideal, and your training, such as you have outlined it leave a bit to be desired. Up your calories, up your protein, SIGIFICANTLY, get on something sane like about 400mg total (perhaps divided in two shots per week) of a long acting test ester per week, throw in the dbol on training days if it gets you in the mood (I don't care) and train your whole body, not just cherry picked exercises, and focus on consistency and progression. You seem like a nut case (I say tongue in cheek) and mileage may vary but some people do well on adding very low doses tren ace - for example using an insulin syring and injecting it sub q about 20mg per day, others the stuff just makes them go a bit off balance, so it might not be right for you.

Feel free to disagree, just a suggestion

hes a fucking idiot, dont waste your time with long winded posts

[Lartinos]

Occasionally

Yesterday I opted for machine leg press over barbell squats

Didn't feel like loading a 90 pound barbell on my delts😄😄😄

I'll do leg press or squats every 10 days or so and wide grip chins of lat pulldowns the same

I will not try and progressively overlord either one of them

Haven't joined a regular gym yet coz still don't have a flat

At this gym I'm training at now I have maxed out the pec Dec and machine lateral so I can not progressively overload them even though I want too

Hopefully the gym I join will have different machine lateral and pec Dec machines so that I can load them more

My accessory lifts are pec dec , machine lateral, db incline curls (I won't max those out since the bells go.up to 110 lbs) and db overhead tri ext (same as I won't ever be able to do 110 on that I think)

You had some kind of injection site issue that was causing issues a while back. How is that looking? 

[ProudVirgin69]

Good point

DECA, dbol and primo are anti aging

Whilst tren and especially mast make ya look old as shit

Decent goatee but consider visiting a barber to line up your facial hair and get everything tight

[dj181]

You had some kind of injection site issue that was causing issues a while back. How is that looking?

There are fine but I got a small chunk of my quad missing on the right quad, if that was on my upper body I'd be on suicide watcb😅😅

Decent goatee but consider visiting a barber to line up your facial hair and get everything tight

Thanks bro but I shaved it off over a year ago, but I may grow it back in

I'm on tinder and another dating site and I'm very disappointed on the females in them and my search parameter is set for ages 18-24

26 is no man's land maybe but definitely not one month older

[Grape Ape]

my search parameter is set for ages 18-24

Fucking pervert - gross.

[dj181]

Fucking pervert - gross.

You are either a f@g or in self-denial

Dating sites have analyzed what age when prefer in women and every single man across the board ages 20-80 prefer a 20 year old

men find 20 year-old women most physically appealing, no matter how old they were.

20 year old men prefer 20 year old women. 40 year old men prefer 20 year old women. It’s shocking to see on paper, but not so surprising if you’ve ever talked to an actual man, read a men’s magazine or looked at porn intended for men.

I didn't make this up it is FACT

[Grape Ape]

You are either a f@g or in self-denial

Dating sites have analyzed what age when prefer in women and every single man across the board ages 20-80 prefer a 20 year old

men find 20 year-old women most physically appealing, no matter how old they were.

20 year old men prefer 20 year old women. 40 year old men prefer 20 year old women. It’s shocking to see on paper, but not so surprising if you’ve ever talked to an actual man, read a men’s magazine or looked at porn intended for men.

I didn't make this up it is FACT

Fuck you pervert.

A 50+ year old lusting over 18 year olds is a weak man.

And you're the one who boner-glided through a sea of sweaty, smelly serbian dudes and then let one park his dong in your crack just to get a glimpse of some fat whore's boob.

So don't lecture anyone about being gay.

[dj181]

Fuck you pervert.

A 50+ year old lusting over 18 year olds is a weak man.

And you're the one who boner-glided through a sea of sweaty, smelly serbian dudes and then let one park his dong in your crack just to get a glimpse of some fat whore's boob.

So don't lecture anyone about being gay.

My cock was on his ass not the other way round

And I was grabbing and squeezing a early 20's very slim girls bubble ass

That study is valid and verified, all ages groups of men preferred a 20 year old

I came across 5 guys in their 30's to 50's in Poland who were sexually involved with 16-17 year olds, 2 of them were involved with their students and even in my case that's a double no no, I would never be sexually involved with any of my students period, any the youngest one I was involved with was 19

[joswift]

My cock was on his ass not the other way round

And I was grabbing and squeezing a early 20's very slim girls bubble ass

That study is valid and verified, all ages groups of men preferred a 20 year old

I came across 5 guys in their 30's to 50's in Poland who were sexually involved with 16-17 year olds, 2 of them were involved with their students and even in my case that's a double no no, I would never be sexually involved with any of my students period, any the youngest one I was involved with was 19

Your cock was on his ass, oh well thats OK then...

"my students"

who is this kunt trying to kid, he hasnt had a fucking job the 15 +years hes been on this forum

[BigRo]

If your bones rested on a man's ass and stayed hard what does that say about you?

[joswift]

If your bones rested on a man's ass and stayed hard what does that say about you?

I will put money on him being a virgin.

[GymnJuice]

My cock was on his ass not the other way round

And I was grabbing and squeezing a early 20's very slim girls bubble ass

That study is valid and verified, all ages groups of men preferred a 20 year old

I came across 5 guys in their 30's to 50's in Poland who were sexually involved with 16-17 year olds, 2 of them were involved with their students and even in my case that's a double no no, I would never be sexually involved with any of my students period, any the youngest one I was involved with was 19

 

It's like a line from Kenny Powers or the Gemstones.

[delon]

Dj doesn't appear to have had sex with anyone he hasn't paid for in the last 2 years:

Brass tacks, how many females under 30 did you have sex with in the last year, that you did not have to pay for or otherwise enter into a transaction with?

My guess from the above reply is not many if any at all, or you would be bragging about it.

That's my problem I hardly fucking try

I'd say this past year 12 months I only approached maybe 15 females

So I didn't really try

Od those 15 I got like 5 contacts but yep never closed the deal coz if they didn't reply to me fairly quickly I said something stupid fucking stupid and they either blocked me or told me fuck off

Impulsivity ruines me

And yep I saw many PUA's in Poland and they did fucking terrible

I at least get 30% contacts they got bout 5%

I just need to try more

15 approaches in 12 months

I'm going out tomorrow with a bud so I'll try to at least approach 3 females I promise

________________

Whens the last time you actually got to experience your fantasy?

When I nailed an 18 year old pro in saint Petersburg last summer

I'm haven't even tried to hook-up with anyone in the last 9 months

[keanu]

I'm cursed when it comes to.adding muscle tissue but I'm over that and I don't give a flying fuck bout adding muscle

What would happen if you lowered your weight to 55lbs for the barbell curl and did 10 sets of 10 with 30 seconds or less in between sets, and didn't step into a gym for 48 hours? Only 45 minutes on the stepper each rest day. I bet your arms grow a quick inch or two.

All the chemical warfare you do is ridiculous. Get conditioned and healthy.

[Coach is Back!]

The only time I used any orals for the last two shows was 8 weeks prior.