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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #75 on: August 10, 2025, 07:18:49 AM »
Morality to a single celled animal is survival, which means food, resources and reproduction.  That is carried all through life forms to higher level creatures.  At some point after conscious thought occurs there can be ideas that allow a shift away from that to some extent, like with Malsov's hierarchy of needs.

Am a big fan of Maslows hierarchy it can be so readily and easily applied to explain any number of individual , community and broader societal decision making causes and movements


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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #76 on: August 10, 2025, 07:20:09 AM »
reconsider your google ad sources  :-\

fish over the broad spectrum share 70% dna with humans.
Cows 80%
Cats 90%

Chimpanzee ~99%

so you had to Google it yourself to be sure?

Do you also know that there is no such thing as a fish?
Each species of fish are as distinct form each other as other animal species

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Why is there no such thing as fish?
The last-common ancestor of lung fish, sharks, and hagfish is related to pretty much everything except arthropods, various worms/parasites, and things of that nature. So if sharks are fish, everything with four limbs is a fish too. Stephen Jay Gould studied fish and decided there's no such thing as a fish.


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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #77 on: August 10, 2025, 07:28:46 AM »
Regarding us being mere monkeys, this Norwegian philosopher thought that evolution went awry when we developed human consciousness. It was nature's mistake.

Peter Wessel Zapffe, a Norwegian philosopher, viewed human consciousness as a tragic misstep in evolution. He argued that humans possess a self-awareness and capacity for reason that surpasses what is needed for survival, leading to existential angst and a sense of the meaninglessness of life. Zapffe believed this overdeveloped consciousness creates a fundamental conflict between human needs and the world's inherent lack of inherent meaning, a view often associated with philosophical pessimism.

His rather short essay The Last Messiah

https://philosophynow.org/issues/45/The_Last_Messiah


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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #78 on: August 10, 2025, 07:30:26 AM »
Regarding us being mere monkeys, this Norwegian philosopher thought that ovelolution went awry when we developed human consciousness. It was nature's mistake.

Peter Wessel Zapffe, a Norwegian philosopher, viewed human consciousness as a tragic misstep in evolution. He argued that humans possess a self-awareness and capacity for reason that surpasses what is needed for survival, leading to existential angst and a sense of the meaninglessness of life. Zapffe believed this overdeveloped consciousness creates a fundamental conflict between human needs and the world's inherent lack of inherent meaning, a view often associated with philosophical pessimism.

His rather short essay The Last Messiah

https://philosophynow.org/issues/45/The_Last_Messiah

evolution went awary or we had a visit from an extra terrestrial species that gave us "humanity"

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #79 on: August 10, 2025, 07:38:00 AM »
Regarding us being mere monkeys, this Norwegian philosopher thought that evolution went awry when we developed human consciousness. It was nature's mistake.

Peter Wessel Zapffe, a Norwegian philosopher, viewed human consciousness as a tragic misstep in evolution. He argued that humans possess a self-awareness and capacity for reason that surpasses what is needed for survival, leading to existential angst and a sense of the meaninglessness of life. Zapffe believed this overdeveloped consciousness creates a fundamental conflict between human needs and the world's inherent lack of inherent meaning, a view often associated with philosophical pessimism.

His rather short essay The Last Messiah

https://philosophynow.org/issues/45/The_Last_Messiah

Check your pm bro

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #80 on: August 10, 2025, 07:40:11 AM »
evolution went awary or we had a visit from an extra terrestrial species that gave us "humanity"

Or we are trapped in a video game, a mere simulation. Some "scientists" claim to have worked out when the memory bank in this simulation will run out, then everything just stops :D

Regarding evolution, another clever columnist I've quite liked, Fred Reed, has written all these artcles arguing against evolution, as its currently explained. I know far too little about anything to have a real opinion on it, at all, but evolution just feels (LOL) fantastical. Maybe we did come from outer space?

https://www.unz.com/freed/darwin-unhinged-the-bugs-in-evolution/

^An example of Fred's musings on evolution. If someone here has studied evolution and cares to take a look, tell me if he's a total crank :D
He finds the arrogance and smugness of evolutionists very distasteful.

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #81 on: August 10, 2025, 07:40:34 AM »
Check your pm bro

Halo is a disappointment

Gonna add methyl tren next💪😎

what have a told you child rapist?

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #82 on: August 10, 2025, 07:42:47 AM »
Or we are trapped in a video game, a mere simulation. Some "scientists" claim to have worked out when the memory bank in this simulation will run out, then everything just stops :D

Regarding evolution, another clever columnist I've quite liked, Fred Reed, has written all these artcles arguing against evolution, as its currently explained. I know far too little about anything to have a real opinion on it, at all, but evolution just feels (LOL) fantastical. Maybe we did come from outer space?

the world and everything around you is a creation of your subconscious for itself to exist in.
You are God, God is you and when your light goes out so does the Universe.

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #83 on: August 10, 2025, 07:46:45 AM »
Regarding us being mere monkeys, this Norwegian philosopher thought that evolution went awry when we developed human consciousness. It was nature's mistake.

Peter Wessel Zapffe, a Norwegian philosopher, viewed human consciousness as a tragic misstep in evolution. He argued that humans possess a self-awareness and capacity for reason that surpasses what is needed for survival, leading to existential angst and a sense of the meaninglessness of life. Zapffe believed this overdeveloped consciousness creates a fundamental conflict between human needs and the world's inherent lack of inherent meaning, a view often associated with philosophical pessimism.

His rather short essay The Last Messiah

https://philosophynow.org/issues/45/The_Last_Messiah

That damn discovery of cooking done doomed us all !


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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #84 on: August 10, 2025, 07:48:17 AM »
Check your pm bro

Halo is a disappointment

Gonna add methyl tren next💪😎

I keep telling you you need to give it some time. It could help you CNS drive even if you don't feel this pathological "rage." Ok so you going to try m-tren. Many feel it mostly just gives them a sense of wellbeing, not hostility towards humans. That was my impression of it after a very limited trial. If you're a good PLer it might be a good trait to be relaxed until just the moment you lift off the bar and then everything "turns on"" automatically in an instant. Long term overexitability, anger and rage, just zaps your strenght and hurts your decision making; many fighters attest to this anway (never fought myself). I know I was always trying to breathe deep and relax as much as possible between sets when maxing, I was mostly stimmed out so tried to fight the adrenaline :D

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #85 on: August 10, 2025, 07:48:43 AM »
Or we are trapped in a video game, a mere simulation. Some "scientists" claim to have worked out when the memory bank in this simulation will run out, then everything just stops :D

Regarding evolution, another clever columnist I've quite liked, Fred Reed, has written all these artcles arguing against evolution, as its currently explained. I know far too little about anything to have a real opinion on it, at all, but evolution just feels (LOL) fantastical. Maybe we did come from outer space?

My good friend in cbus actually believes this

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #86 on: August 10, 2025, 07:52:54 AM »
I keep telling you you need to give it some time. It could help you CNS drive even if you don't feel this pathological "rage." Ok so you going to try m-tren. Many feel it mostly just gives them a sense of wellbeing, not hostility towards humans. That was my impression of it after a very limited trial. If you're a good PLer it might be a good trait to be relaxed until just the moment you lift off the bar and then everything "turns on"" automatically in an instant. Long term overexitability, anger and rage, just zaps your strenght and hurts your decision making; many fighters attest to this anway (never fought myself).

Well I got 100 tabs of it so I will use them all and then decide if I will get it again

Cheque drops are going to be a permanent addition for life non fuckking stop


So I got 2 permanent lifetime drugs so far.....

1. Testosterone

2. Cheque drops

I'm not using var again and most likely will not use halo again

The only wildcard is DECA I will use that if I want to "beautify" my physique

All other compounds are for the trash can

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #87 on: August 10, 2025, 07:55:08 AM »
I keep telling you you need to give it some time. It could help you CNS drive even if you don't feel this pathological "rage." Ok so you going to try m-tren. Many feel it mostly just gives them a sense of wellbeing, not hostility towards humans. That was my impression of it after a very limited trial. If you're a good PLer it might be a good trait to be relaxed until just the moment you lift off the bar and then everything "turns on"" automatically in an instant. Long term overexitability, anger and rage, just zaps your strenght and hurts your decision making; many fighters attest to this anway (never fought myself). I know I was always trying to breathe deep and relax as much as possible between sets when maxing, I was mostly stimmed out so tried to fight the adrenaline :D
hey fucvkface, are you as fucking stupid as he is, keep your shit in his threads.

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #88 on: August 10, 2025, 07:58:57 AM »
I step away for a few days and everyone tries to turn into an intellectual.

Get the fuck out of here you dunces.

It's all about 1-5 reps for strength, 6-12 for growth and 13-20 for cuts.

If you start with that as your base, or fucking "compass" as you call it, you can't go wrong.
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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #89 on: August 10, 2025, 07:59:31 AM »
the world and everything around you is a creation of your subconscious for itself to exist in.
You are God, God is you and when your light goes out so does the Universe.

Never tried psychedelics but those that have always stress the feeling of the interconnectedness of all, and how "you" are part of God :D

hey fucvkface, are you as fucking stupid as he is, keep your shit in his threads.

Never claimed to be smart. My apologies, though threads always veer off topic anyway. Let's work Blankins into this. Or not :-X

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #90 on: August 10, 2025, 08:04:43 AM »
Never tried psychedelics but those that have always stress the feeling of the interconnectedness of all, and how "you" are part of God :D

I was once on acid and worked out the theory of life itself but I mislaid it behind the fridge and then came down from the trip

I believe its still there behind the fridge just waiting to be discovered

On Acid you see fractals all the time

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #91 on: August 10, 2025, 08:50:28 AM »
I step away for a few days and everyone tries to turn into an intellectual.

Get the fuck out of here you dunces.

It's all about 1-5 reps for strength, 6-12 for growth and 13-20 for cuts.

If you start with that as your base, or fucking "compass" as you call it, you can't go wrong.

1-5 that is MY REALM AND I OWN IT

Mjs best


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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #93 on: August 10, 2025, 10:10:04 AM »
Benefits, consequences, results. Leave others as they came.

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #94 on: August 10, 2025, 10:12:29 AM »
Great post Phantom, enjoyed it 

And yes your reasoning feels consistent to me, essentially based in the bolded bits which, to your subsequent post, does not necessarily require a higher power


Side note, going from this:

To this:

Was quite a jolt and encapsulated getbig in a nutshell  :D

Thanks, bud. And LOL, yes, DJ's input was very thought provoking.

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #95 on: August 10, 2025, 10:28:29 AM »
Mostly common sense
Whats common sense? Self preservation?

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #96 on: August 10, 2025, 11:44:01 AM »
I step away for a few days and everyone tries to turn into an intellectual.

Get the fuck out of here you dunces.

It's all about 1-5 reps for strength, 6-12 for growth and 13-20 for cuts.

If you start with that as your base, or fucking "compass" as you call it, you can't go wrong.

Impossible to argue with this

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #97 on: August 10, 2025, 12:02:02 PM »
I was once on acid and worked out the theory of life itself but I mislaid it behind the fridge and then came down from the trip

I believe its still there behind the fridge just waiting to be discovered

On Acid you see fractals all the time

why not check you could be on to something.

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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #98 on: August 10, 2025, 12:14:02 PM »
WWJD=WHAT would Jesus DO.  ;D ;D ;D Actually mostly it's from your upbringing,  if you lay with pigs chances are you're going to smell like shit.
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Re: Where does your moral compass come from?
« Reply #99 on: August 10, 2025, 12:14:43 PM »
Whats common sense? Self preservation?

Learning from past experiences on what is right and wrong. It also helps to avoid dicey situations like getting drunk and attending a jazz festival in the black area of town and calling a dindu the n word at 3AM