2026-02-28 Iran War - Israel and USA strikes Iran - "Preemptive Strike"

[herne]

[Van_Bilderass]

https://www.wsj.com/politics/national-security/trump-downplays-concerns-about-conditions-on-the-uss-abraham-lincoln-8dc0ef46?mod=hp_lead_pos1


Trump Downplays Concerns About Conditions on the USS Abraham Lincoln
WASHINGTON—President Trump played down concerns about the living conditions aboard the USS Abraham Lincoln, an aircraft carrier that has been deployed for more than 250 days, and suggested the lengthy naval deployment in the Middle East was “not nearly long enough.”

LOL, classic Trump, gotta love it!

"After we finish defeating Iran, which is being very badly defeated, pretty soon I'll be declaring the Hormuz Strait a territory of the United States," Trump said in an Aug. 14 speech in Garden City, New York. "Essentially that's what we have. We have the blockade. No ships get through unless we want them to."

Wonder how soon "pretty soon" ends up being. It's being defeated but it was defeated 38 times already, in fact Iran was defeated in the first hour. I wouldn't be surprised if this takes many years and becomes yet another "forever war."

Iran has excavators ready sitting inside the tunnels and once the entrances are bombed they sometimes come back online in a few hours. I obviously don't know myself what their capacity is now but apparently Israel thinks by mid-2027 they are back at pre-war levels. Iran of course claims they are building faster than they are firing them.

[IroNat]

These Iranians are resourceful.
I think we should buddy-up.

[ProudVirgin69]

We need a final solution to the whole middle east question. I vote we either pull out and let the animals kill themselves off or we hit the restart button on them.

What do you think Virgin?

Pull out and spend those resources here.  Let’s Make America Great Again, not start new foreign wars.

[Van_Bilderass]

Pull out and spend those resources here.  Let’s Make America Great Again, not start new foreign wars.

I'm not an American and don't have an opinion as an American what it 'should' do but I've seen some talk about a 'Fortress America' type of concept that sounds logical to me. Oceans on both sides, no one's considering invading it as is. Iran firing missiles at it isn't a credible threat. Now America is stretched thin, "The United States operates approximately 750 to 800 military bases outside its borders spread across roughly 80 countries and territories," Iran exposed the limits of its military power projection on the other side of the world, some feel the missile shortfall showed the MIC isn't working efficiently enough (will take many years to restore the weapons, radars, aircraft), and so on. What do you Americans think about Fortress America (where its made even more impenetrable)?

[Irongrip400]

I read this morning that the Iranians are willing to wait out trumps term thinking they’ll get a favorable deal after he’s gone.

[Necrosis]

I read this morning that the Iranians are willing to wait out trumps term thinking they’ll get a favorable deal after he’s gone.

They don't trust him, who would. They were told to ignore his public comments because they were counter to the talks.

His primary concern is himself and how he looks.

[GymnJuice]

I'm not an American and don't have an opinion as an American what it 'should' do but I've seen some talk about a 'Fortress America' type of concept that sounds logical to me. Oceans on both sides, no one's considering invading it as is. Iran firing missiles at it isn't a credible threat. Now America is stretched thin, "The United States operates approximately 750 to 800 military bases outside its borders spread across roughly 80 countries and territories," Iran exposed the limits of its military power projection on the other side of the world, some feel the missile shortfall showed the MIC isn't working efficiently enough (will take many years to restore the weapons, radars, aircraft), and so on. What do you Americans think about Fortress America (where its made even more impenetrable)?

I don’t believe the United States should become completely isolationist. But our record in the Middle East has been consistently poor. We rarely come out ahead. Any realistic path that reduces these costly foreign entanglements would be an improvement over the status quo.

[ProudVirgin69]

I'm not an American and don't have an opinion as an American what it 'should' do but I've seen some talk about a 'Fortress America' type of concept that sounds logical to me. Oceans on both sides, no one's considering invading it as is. Iran firing missiles at it isn't a credible threat. Now America is stretched thin, "The United States operates approximately 750 to 800 military bases outside its borders spread across roughly 80 countries and territories," Iran exposed the limits of its military power projection on the other side of the world, some feel the missile shortfall showed the MIC isn't working efficiently enough (will take many years to restore the weapons, radars, aircraft), and so on. What do you Americans think about Fortress America (where its made even more impenetrable)?

Absolutely not.  Nobody is going to attack us, investing money in that is a waste.  Aside from our uniquely favorable geographic locations, we have a ton of nuclear weapons. 

Let’s make this country better by upgrading the electrical grid, building out roads & railways, investing in schools, replacing lead water lines, etc etc.

I don’t believe the United States should become completely isolationist. But our record in the Middle East has been consistently poor. We rarely come out ahead. Any realistic path that reduces these costly foreign entanglements would be an improvement over the status quo.

Basically. 

[chaos]

Pull out and spend those resources here.  Let’s Make America Great Again, not start new foreign wars.

Absolutely not.  Nobody is going to attack us, investing money in that is a waste.  Aside from our uniquely favorable geographic locations, we have a ton of nuclear weapons. 

Let’s make this country better by upgrading the electrical grid, building out roads & railways, investing in schools, replacing lead water lines, etc etc.

Agreed, Fuck the rest of the world. Let the animals police themselves for the next 20 years or so and let's see how much of the world isn't muslime then.

[Necrosis]

Agreed, Fuck the rest of the world. Let the animals police themselves for the next 20 years or so and let's see how much of the world isn't muslime then.

You don't protect anyone from anything LOLOLOL. You are literally one of the main drivers of violence around the world.

Only time NATO was required to come to someone's aide it was for you guys lol. You required protection and help.

The fucking arrogance you retards have is astounding.

[chaos]

Snow Mexicans don't have to worry, the US won't let anything happen to them.

[Van_Bilderass]

I don’t believe the United States should become completely isolationist. But our record in the Middle East has been consistently poor. We rarely come out ahead. Any realistic path that reduces these costly foreign entanglements would be an improvement over the status quo.

Absolutely not.  Nobody is going to attack us, investing money in that is a waste.  Aside from our uniquely favorable geographic locations, we have a ton of nuclear weapons. 

Let’s make this country better by upgrading the electrical grid, building out roads & railways, investing in schools, replacing lead water lines, etc etc.
 

"We have to fight them over there so we don't need to fight them over here" has been the neocon mantra for decades

The ME wars have of course also resulted in the browning of Europe and even the U.S. due to refugee flows. Now we're swamped with foreigners with little loyalty to the host nation. I think joswift said we'll soon be swamped with even more Iranians

[Van_Bilderass]

Only time NATO was required to come to someone's aide it was for you guys lol. You required protection and help.

Trump says, "WE DON'T NEED ANYONE!," but I don't think that's quite true. Just as an example, Trump needed the Gulf states as firing platforms to prosecute this Iran war

[Necrosis]

Trump says, "WE DON'T NEED ANYONE!," but I don't think that's quite true. Just as an example, Trump needed the Gulf states as firing platforms to prosecute this Iran war

He is a typical sociopathic narc, can't get along with anyone, is the best at everything and needs to be in control

[Humble Narcissist]

Trump says, "WE DON'T NEED ANYONE!," but I don't think that's quite true. Just as an example, Trump needed the Gulf states as firing platforms to prosecute this Iran war

Why doesn't a reporter ask why we haven't won the war yet?

[chaos]

Why doesn't a reporter ask why we haven't won the war yet?

Easier to nitpick what he says and talk shit than actually try to address any issues. They have to keep the liberals frothing at the mouth over the shit he talks rather than put him in the hot seat. Typical liberal media.

[B_B_C]

Why doesn't a reporter ask why we haven't won the war yet?

Mr Trump already said it was won in the first hour last May
Are you calling him a liar?

[Van_Bilderass]

He is a typical sociopathic narc, can't get along with anyone, is the best at everything and needs to be in control

Everything is calm, Trump is in total control.

"Not long after, a Trump desperate to remain placid and “in control”, was spotted casually teeing off in Bedminster, NJ with a full-on AN/TWQ-1 Avenger mobile anti-air suite armed with Stinger missiles escorting him around the greens:



These are surreal optics.

Particularly at a time when Western media jeers at Putin for allegedly dotting his “Lake Valdai retreat” with an AD shield, and mocks Mojtaba Khamenei for “hiding like a rat”. The President of the United States of America is playing golf enwreathed in concertina wire with a mobile surface-to-air battery as his caddy cart, only days after escaping Turkey in a meat locker, all while US sailors literally fling themselves from the gunwales of Navy flagships to escape a war that has seen every American base in the region get debasified.

Folks. These are not normal times—we may be in the end game here.

Normalcy Bias has prevented us from truly appreciating the extraordinary and historic events unfolding before us. The United States Empire seems to have genuinely entered its terminal arc."



Perhaps this is why:

[Van_Bilderass]

Why doesn't a reporter ask why we haven't won the war yet?

Well it is won! Every other claim is FAKE NEWS!

Praise be to Allah!

[chaos]

Praise be to Allah!

You keep outing yourself, Van_Muhammed

[Van_Bilderass]

You keep outing yourself, Van_Muhammed

Read Trump's post, I was quoting him sarcastically

[Van_Bilderass]

If MTG is correct this crosses all red lines. I mean I've been talking about this possibility since last June but the risks simply are not worth it. This is not existential for the U.S. Nukes simply should not even be mentioned in this type of context, of course they shouldn't even exist in the first place. That one geriatric man could make a unilateral decision to use nukes is insanity.

[B_B_C]

Today marks the end of the sixty-day negotiating period set forth in the memorandum of understanding the Trump administration signed with Iran

[chaos]

If MTG is correct this crosses all red lines. I mean I've been talking about this possibility since last June but the risks simply are not worth it. This is not existential for the U.S. Nukes simply should not even be mentioned in this type of context, of course they shouldn't even exist in the first place. That one geriatric man could make a unilateral decision to use nukes is insanity.

Goodbye Tehran and Mashhad!