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GymnJuice

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Re: Radical Islam....
« Reply #25 on: Today at 03:07:37 AM »
Of course if you're not politically motivated. But when it comes to the National defense of our country and Israel's I'm not taking the side of the ideology (and it is ideologically driven) that wants to wipe both countries off the map. Again, we need Israel and Israel needs us.

We do not need Israel.

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Re: Radical Islam....
« Reply #26 on: Today at 04:32:55 AM »
Cool.
I am curious though, what do you think posting 150 year old quote is going to do? Are you trying to persuade people that the founding fathers had different opinions? All that shows is that muzzies have been a problem for hundreds of years if you have to try to make a peace treaty with them way back then.

Alternate viewpoints as a counter to fear mongering simplistic propaganda aimed at certain demographics. If "muzzies" are a problem, why are they a problem? Maybe US and European foreign policy is one reason? Maybe Israel's control of US foreign policy? Maybe US constitution and US founding principles and ideas, or their current interpretation, allow for problems to arise? I have a lot of thoughts about all this LOL but I'm sure you know some of it, Coach doesn't.

"We all know it's the Jews, give it a rest already," someone said.

We do not need Israel.

I would even say Israel is the cause of any issues with Muslims. Coach acts like Iran wants to wipe the US and Israel off the map "for no reason at all," just hate. It's not like the US has been in the ME killing millions of civilians for Israel's benefit. Iran does not want to wipe out either country off the map either, Iran has explicitly stated they have no issue with the US populace at large, the issue is with leadership and foreign policy, hence Death to America and Big and Little Satan.

The US needs Israel like someone needs cancer.

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Ayatollah Ali Khamenei has stated that the phrase "Death to America" targets U.S. policies and leadership rather than ordinary American citizens.

Key Quotes & Statements

• On the Slogan’s Meaning: Ayatollah Khamenei clarified the intent behind the chant, stating: "It means death to the few people running that country. We have nothing against the American nation."

• Opposition to Policies: He has repeatedly emphasized that the slogan represents opposition to U.S. "global arrogance," interventionism, and hostile government policies rather than a hatred of the American people

The US and its attitude towards killing millions in the ME:

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60 Minutes interview, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations (((Madeleine Albright))) was asked by correspondent Lesley Stahl about reports that U.S.-led economic sanctions on Iraq had resulted in the deaths of half a million children —more than the number of children killed in Hiroshima—and whether "the price was worth it". Albright replied, "I think that is a very hard choice, but the price, we think, the price is worth it."