Did Phil Heath cash his check?

[ieffinhatecardio]

Why are posts getting deleted?

Especially the one where Lift intimated he knew about emails between 240 and Phil Heath and then he pretended he made no mention of such emails.


Oh, and who exactly is Lift? I thought he was a schmoe photographer is that accurate?

[CAPTAIN MARVEL]

I just want to know where Vyo gets all this money. Nobody buys their shit products, but they appeared out of nowhere a little over a year ago. Do a ton of advertising and signed several athletes. Who is fronting all this money?

[sarcasm]

LIFT-

WHY DID YOU JUST DELETE THE EMAIL WHERE YOU THREW PHIL HEATH UNDER THE BUS FOR RUNNING HIS MOUTH ABOUT EMAILS I SENT HIM?

YOU WERE CAUGHT, PLAIN AND SIMPLE.  YOU SHOWED ZERO CONFIDENTIALITY AND ACTED WITHOUT PROFESSIONALISM.

are you saying that if "lift studios" was a defense attorney that he would tell the prosecution about his client confessing to a murder, 240?

[240 is Back]

Why are posts getting deleted?

Especially the one where Lift intimated he knew about emails between 240 and Phil Heath and then he pretended he made no mention of such emails.

Oh, and who exactly is Lift? I thought he was a schmoe photographer is that accurate?

There are lines that you don't cross.  You NEVER talk about personal emails on the boards.  I have so much dirt on so many guys that will NEVER see the light of day, because you just don't bring that up here. 

LIFT, you and I are held to higher standards.  We can goof off and argue here, but we can NEVER talk about private communications here on the boards.  I can't believe that a newb like me is telling you this.  For you to talk about my demeanor when emailing questions to athletes was DISGUSTING.   Now, anyone who talks to Phil Heath knows they are risking having their words ANNOUNCED TO THE WORLD on message boads from YOU?

You're better than this, Isaac.  Don't let your hatred for the PDI cloud your ability to do things right and ethically.

[ieffinhatecardio]

There are lines that you don't cross.  You NEVER talk about personal emails on the boards.  I have so much dirt on so many guys that will NEVER see the light of day, because you just don't bring that up here. 

LIFT, you and I are held to higher standards.  We can goof off and argue here, but we can NEVER talk about private communications here on the boards.  I can't believe that a newb like me is telling you this.  For you to talk about my demeanor when emailing questions to athletes was DISGUSTING.   Now, anyone who talks to Phil Heath knows they are risking having their words ANNOUNCED TO THE WORLD on message boads from YOU?

You're better than this, Isaac.  Don't let your hatred for the PDI cloud your ability to do things right and ethically.

Who is he? It seems he's always with Shawn Ray or Chick, is he a bodybuilder? A schmoe? A photog? A web designer?

Who exactly is he?

[divcom]

There are lines that you don't cross.  You NEVER talk about personal emails on the boards.  I have so much dirt on so many guys that will NEVER see the light of day, because you just don't bring that up here.


You dont do it anywhere, anytime to anyone even if you're mad at them!   

[240 is Back]

You dont do it anywhere, anytime to anyone even if you're mad at them!

Agreed!  There HAS to be separation.  LIFT is a competitor of mine, and he used Phil's emails to try to gain an advantage.  Then, he deleted it, once it backfired.  Kind of hard to have a fair debate when one guy has a mute button 

[ieffinhatecardio]

Lift does websites and promotions, I think.
Lift also feels the need to undermine the compeition (me) by running his mouth about emails.  What else would LIFT do to get ahead?  I am majorly annoyed by this.  LIFT threw Phil under the bus trying to make me look bad, then DELETED it once he realize what he did.

I just went to his website, to say it's not impressive would be an understatement.

I think I remember him cracking on your websites 240, if he did and if his website is any indication of his work then he has no right to be saying anything about anyone else's sites.

[Lift Studios]

Stop crying Rob. I called you on your shit - you freaked and now you're trying to do damage control. The threads were deleted because they were personal attacks - mine included. I never once mentioned you emailing Phil. You brought that out - I said you present yourself differently when emailing athletes directly and you do. Which 240 is the real one - the one who kisses ass on email or the one who spouts off on the boards about everything?

Don't flatter yourself, you're not my competition.

[ieffinhatecardio]

I never once mentioned you emailing Phil.

You clearly intimated it. Why deny it?

[Jerryme7]

240....I think you bring a lot of interesting things to this board with you conspiracy theories and such but why so much animosity? You had animosity for Chick, Ray, and Lift....you were putting me down a few weeks ago.....

Cant we all just get along? I believe that all of us would be great friends if we had a physical gathering place and it just wasnt regulated to a forum.

I met Tre and he was cool as shit..I met Shawn and he was cool as shit. I met Chick and Chick was cool as hell. These people really impressed the hell out of me. I gained a lot of respect for these guys.

People are different in person. If you dont know the person intimately like a brother or a best friend...why attack their character?

[240 is Back]

Chick- does more to help the IFBB than to help the athletes, IMO.  Also he deceives us, belittles fans, and makes baseless accusations.  I think this has been demonstrated here.

Shawn- I don't dislike Shawn, but he did threaten to call my wife and talk some trash if I questioned the ability of VYO to fund the Colo Pro or asked one more time about his athletes list.   this was not nice.

LIFT-  I don't wanna go there.

[Stavios]

Damn get a life 240 ! 

[Jerryme7]

Chick- is a people person.....does not belittle his fans.  He is a great representative for the sport. Had the pleasure of meeting him in person and he impressed the hell out of me. Have you ever met him in person or spoke with him, 240? The only time Ive seen Chick get defensive was when people were bashing him on this board..he had every right to say the thing he typed...you guys show no mercy...Id be defending myself too if you guys were attacking me the same way....

Shawn- Shawn was my idol when I was growing up....met him in person and was impressed by him. I only judge Shawn by how he has treated me. He treated me with respect. I have nothing bad to say about him. I dont believe everything I read either..

Lift...I dont know Lift to make any sort of judgement nor will I believe rumors or what people say if he isnt here to defend himself. If I did meet him in person and he did treat me bad, then Ill make a judgement....but he hasnt done anything wrong to me so Im not going to jump on your bandwagon like some people are doing to bash these people...what are we in elementary school?

[Tre]

Lift also feels the need to undermine the competition (me) by running his mouth about emails.  What else would LIFT do to get ahead?  I am majorly annoyed by this.

Mmm, I think both of you guys have a lot to offer, but I don't think of you as competitors with one another.  I suppose that argument could be made, though, given that you both are now active in promoting bodybuilding events online. 

Based on the screen shot that was posted, Lift didn't violate anyone's confidentiality - the only thing he did was to let 240 know that he was privy to the communications between Phil and 240.  At no point did Lift divulge the content of that private email communication. 

Lift has competed as a bodybuilder before, though.   

[240 is Back]

Chick-  he had every right to say the thing he typed...you guys show no mercy...Id be defending myself too if you guys were attacking me the same way....

Chick called me a racist and provided false proof.  When proven to be incorrect, and confronted with 2 years of my behavior plus proof the IP addresses he used were AOL proxies, he didn't apologize.  

He tried to completely destroy me with lies.  Do you still think he had every right to say those things?

[Tre]

I met Tre and he was cool as shit..I met Shawn and he was cool as shit. I met Chick and Chick was cool as hell. These people really impressed the hell out of me. I gained a lot of respect for these guys.

Thanks, bro!  

It was great meeting you and your friends as well, and I do look forward to seeing you guys again next year.

[Tre]

Chick called me a racist and provided false proof.

The race card was improperly played...and out of nowhere at that.

I'm glad that incident was short-lived, but I can understand why you're not going to let it go.   

[onlyme]

Before I read on and post more about this joke of a promoter and the way he side tracks the FACTS along with his 3 or 4 neighbor buddies who support hs bulloshit and constant lying, I have to say sorry to Liftbig.  I had no idea you looked like this.  I swear to god I was just having fun with you cause I actually thought you lifted and was some physical speciman that could take whatever I dished out.  Now that I see an actual picture of you I take back most of the remarks.  It is plain to see for everyone now that you are in no shape to take on additional burdens like arguing on the internet.  Sorry dude.  And I hope Seans check didn't bounce to you too and that you go out and get something to eat.  You look allot like the pictures I saw in highschool when we were studying WWII camps. Hang around you promoter friend, frm the looks of it he can put some weight you.

And yes this is an actual photo of our own Liftbig.  Got this off the BB.com website.  And this was by far the best looking pic on their.

[ieffinhatecardio]

but I can understand why you're not going to let it go.   

It's ammunition. It's fuel. It's a victory.

You pick.

[Tre]

I spoke to Phil this morning and he doesn't feel the need to comment on this matter.

While I don't expect the funds to be securely resting in his account yet (long delays are reasonable on large deposits like this)...

You're part of the bodybuilding media and Phil is your guy, yet you get a "no comment"??  

You and I know the situation is totally innocent and that he will get all his money shortly - assuming he doesn't have it already - but you've got to know that's going to look pretty suspicious to some people out there.  

[onlyme]

I just want to know where Vyo gets all this money. Nobody buys their shit products, but they appeared out of nowhere a little over a year ago. Do a ton of advertising and signed several athletes. Who is fronting all this money?

VYOtech is a 4th tier supplement company.  They are funded and owned by Hydroderm which is a skin care company that does very well in that industry.  Probably another tax break for them.

[ieffinhatecardio]

Before I read on and post more about this joke of a promoter and the way he side tracks the FACTS along with his 3 or 4 neighbor buddies who support hs bulloshit and constant lying, I have to say sorry to Liftbig.  I had no idea you looked like this.  I swear to god I was just having fun with you cause I actually thought you lifted and was some physical speciman that could take whatever I dished out.  Now that I see an actual picture of you I take back most of the remarks.  It is plain to see for everyone now that you are in no shape to take on additional burdens like arguing on the internet.  Sorry dude.  And I hope Seans check didn't bounce to you too and that you go out and get something to eat.  You look allot like the pictures I saw in highschool when we were studying WWII camps. Hang around you promoter friend, frm the looks of it he can put some weight you.

And yes this is an actual photo of our own Liftbig.  Got this off the BB.com website.  And this was by far the best looking pic on their.

I'm not picking on Lift here cause he's looks lean and in pretty good shape but why are his arms sticking out so much? I've heard of ILS (imaginary lat syndrome) but this is ridiculous.

[Tre]

 Probably another tax break for them.

It's like gambling with the house's money.  

They can throw tons of cash at something and if it works, they win.  If it fails, they take a dollar-for-dollar tax write-off and list it as both a failed business AND a charity!!  

[Stavios]

Before I read on and post more about this joke of a promoter and the way he side tracks the FACTS along with his 3 or 4 neighbor buddies who support hs bulloshit and constant lying, I have to say sorry to Liftbig.  I had no idea you looked like this.  I swear to god I was just having fun with you cause I actually thought you lifted and was some physical speciman that could take whatever I dished out.  Now that I see an actual picture of you I take back most of the remarks.  It is plain to see for everyone now that you are in no shape to take on additional burdens like arguing on the internet.  Sorry dude.  And I hope Seans check didn't bounce to you too and that you go out and get something to eat.  You look allot like the pictures I saw in highschool when we were studying WWII camps. Hang around you promoter friend, frm the looks of it he can put some weight you.

And yes this is an actual photo of our own Liftbig.  Got this off the BB.com website.  And this was by far the best looking pic on their.

He looks way better than your friend Rob