Montreal reminds me of World Masters Pro.

[Miss Karen]

I guess it's a big No for the judges list of their names and who placed who.Can anyone tell me another contest in anything,where the people judging don't have to put their name to the scoresheets.This is a JOKE.

[Chick]

I guess it's a big No for the judges list of their names and who placed who.Can anyone tell me another contest in anything,where the people judging don't have to put their name to the scoresheets.This is a JOKE.

The names are on the scoresheets, and are available to the competitors.

[AVBG]

I guess it's a big No for the judges list of their names and who placed who.Can anyone tell me another contest in anything,where the people judging don't have to put their name to the scoresheets.This is a JOKE.

What's the big deal about knowing the names of the judges??

Will it keep them "honest"? Shame them into scoring fairly?

One thing to keep in mind is that in pro boxing where the judges are known to all, there is a contraversial decision/ split decision on nearly every fight card.

[body88]

King may not have the best structure, but neither does Dennis...

Being there is a different story....pics are deceiving, and rarely tell the whole story....video would be a better way to see the guys pose, and muscle in motion.

Dennis is very impressive in a few poses, and gets exposed in others...another thing King had going for him, was the huge difference from last week...could'nt have hurt with some of the same judges in attendance.

I'm not saying ing "destoyed" Dennis by any means...but I can see where he beat him.

I want to see the video. King looks to be better than wolf in the front lat spread. But wolf looks to be better than king in  all the other pictures. He is also better conditioned than king.

[Miss Karen]

Thanks Bob I didn't know the judges put their name on scoresheets.As competitors rep do they the promoters give you a list of judges so you know they the judges are Financial members and qualified to judge in Pro shows.

[Ex Coelis]

good for King - he definetly needed this. Whether he deserved to beat Dennis or not I can't say.

I'm sure Wolf will qualify in time. He still ahs the Atlantic City.

[240 is Back]

Dennis is very impressive in a few poses, and gets exposed in others...another thing King had going for him, was the huge difference from last week...could'nt have hurt with some of the same judges in attendance.

It's a good thing they don't do this in other sports.  
"Kobe, you're shooting a lot better today than last week.  We're going to just add ten points to your team's score" or "Peyton, you're throwing the ball terrible today.  We're just going to add 21 points to the other teams score".

LOL at the athletes rep DEFENDING unfair judging lol... monster hilarity ensuing.

[Weez]

King may not have the best structure, but neither does Dennis...

Being there is a different story....pics are deceiving, and rarely tell the whole story....video would be a better way to see the guys pose, and muscle in motion.

Dennis is very impressive in a few poses, and gets exposed in others...another thing King had going for him, was the huge difference from last week...could'nt have hurt with some of the same judges in attendance.

I'm not saying ing "destoyed" Dennis by any means...but I can see where he beat him.

Wow, Chick, I used to respect you....this ain't nuthin' bout a peanut gallery, this is bout being real, man. Kamali looked better than a week ago, but he still looked like crap. Damn friendship is one thing, but either tell the truth or just shut up .....Sheeeesh!!!

[G o a t b o y]

Wow, Chick, I used to respect you....this ain't nuthin' bout a peanut gallery, this is bout being real, man. Kamali looked better than a week ago, but he still looked like crap. Damn friendship is one thing, but either tell the truth or just shut up .....Sheeeesh!!!

Bob's one positive attribute seems to be loyalty.  Unfortunately, he seems to pursue it to the detriment of truth, judgement, and common sense. 

Who needs pesky facts?  Who needs reality? All Bob needs to know is whether he's on your "team" or not. 

[Tre]

I guess it's a big No for the judges list of their names and who placed who.Can anyone tell me another contest in anything,where the people judging don't have to put their name to the scoresheets.This is a JOKE.

It doesn't really matter, MK...because judges who dissent from the majority too often are removed from the panel.  The 'qualifications' to become a judge require one to be a conformist.  

[Chick]

It's a good thing they don't do this in other sports.  
"Kobe, you're shooting a lot better today than last week.  We're going to just add ten points to your team's score" or "Peyton, you're throwing the ball terrible today.  We're just going to add 21 points to the other teams score".

LOL at the athletes rep DEFENDING unfair judging lol... monster hilarity ensuing.

lol...monster not knowing the difference between a sport where points are scored, and a sport where opinion is used as the scoring system...

It's called human nature, and it comes into play in the scoring of BB shows, along with showmanship, displaying the physique, ability to hide weaknesses and ability to show strengths...

Of course, you know all of this given your vast experience in bodybuilding...and your ability to post naked pictures of yourself at will for all the men on a BB site to see...

Putz.......

[bigfisk]

Hey Chick

Did you see the show. I was hoping King did well but looking at the pics next to Wolf I don't see why he was placed above him. Any ideas as to what it is that tipped him over?

[Weez]

lol...monster not knowing the difference between a sport where points are scored, and a sport where opinion is used as the scoring system...

It's called human nature, and it comes into play in the scoring of BB shows, along with showmanship, displaying the physique, ability to hide weaknesses and ability to show strengths...

Of course, you know all of this given your vast experience in bodybuilding...and your ability to post naked pictures of yourself at will for all the men on a BB site to see...

Putz.......

That's real bad form, Chick

[Chick]

Hey Chick

Did you see the show. I was hoping King did well but looking at the pics next to Wolf I don't see why he was placed above him. Any ideas as to what it is that tipped him over?

No, I didn't.

Pics are deceiving...in ANY show.

The guys are also judged at the night time finals...conditioning and posing round.

[240 is Back]

lol...monster not knowing the difference between a sport where points are scored, and a sport where opinion is used as the scoring system...

It's called human nature, and it comes into play in the scoring of BB shows, along with showmanship, displaying the physique, ability to hide weaknesses and ability to show strengths...

Of course, you know all of this given your vast experience in bodybuilding...and your ability to post naked pictures of yourself at will for all the men on a BB site to see...
Putz.......

I talk about the importance of consistent judging standards and you call me a putz?

I make the point (which many may agre with) that the show should be won by the best man onstage that day, not the one who looked the worst last week but looks better today.

You're a real class act, chic.  I talk issues, and you call names.

[Miss Karen]

Well Bob which is it you have said on here to me that they don't judge Posing now your saying they do.Which is it do you Know?.

[Chick]

Well...they're *Supposed* to.

We al know the posing round judging is a joke...what they're REALLY doing, is re-judging the physiques based on what they look like at night.

I think the whole judging system sucks and should be changed...as I've been trying to do.

Unfortunately, it's the athletes themselves that want the "posing round" left as is...even though they know they aren't really geting judged on it...go figure.

[thisiskeith12]

Yeah, I can give you a clue....

Pics get posted of progress, getbig peanut gallery talks shit about how I'll "never make it"..."won't be in shape", etc.

Gallery starts to reverse themselves the closer the show gets...

After show is won...gallery begins "conspiracy" theories, because  (as usual) they can't bear, or admit that they were dead wrong.


Same thing with King...

After last week, everyone wrote him off..."he'll never make it"..."no way can he lose the waist that quick"..."I don't care what he does...he's done", etc.

Tune started to change when Issac posted pics...

100% improvement, 4th place, Olympia Q...and the peanut Gallery are in full force with the conspiracies...



Can't say I'm shocked....

100% improvement on conditioning FOR KING, yes, total improvement? no. Of course people gave him his props until like they say "step on stage against others". King stepped on stage, fans had something to compare him with, and his flaws hung out.

[Miss Karen]

Thanks Bob it's a shame milos doesn't think like you about the posing round.You are so right the judging is a Joke.

[G o a t b o y]

Thanks Bob it's a shame milos doesn't think like you about the posing round.You are so right the judging is a Joke.

Bob shouldn't complain....  he and his friends seem to do pretty well with IFBB judging! 

[240 is Back]

I think the whole judging system sucks and should be changed...as I've been trying to do.

What % would you assign to "how much a guy has improved since last week"?

[Max_Rep]

you got it buddy

http://flashrob.com/king/king.htm

comparison pics

The only place where King beat Wolf is the side hamstring shot. Wolf hands King his a$$ everywhere else. He more complete, more pleasing, more balanced, better muscle shapes, better calves, better arms. King did improve his condition dramatically from last week (props to Disgusted --Jim Mangone), I'll give him that but he got a HUGE gift. 

[Max_Rep]

Thanks Rob....Even Farrah made him look stupid....Damn I must be the blind man in the Horseshoe throwing competition...Who knows??

Well I have 20/20 vision and I'm seeing the same thing you are.

[knny187]

Yeah, I can give you a clue....

Pics get posted of progress, getbig peanut gallery talks shit about how I'll "never make it"..."won't be in shape", etc.

Gallery starts to reverse themselves the closer the show gets...

After show is won...gallery begins "conspiracy" theories, because  (as usual) they can't bear, or admit that they were dead wrong.


Same thing with King...

After last week, everyone wrote him off..."he'll never make it"..."no way can he lose the waist that quick"..."I don't care what he does...he's done", etc.

Tune started to change when Issac posted pics...

100% improvement, 4th place, Olympia Q...and the peanut Gallery are in full force with the conspiracies...



Can't say I'm shocked....

Someone like myself who cares a less about Sherri....I would still give him props where they're do.  He did make an improvement from the previous week....

but NOT the placing he got.

BodyBuilding needs controversy to make it interesting & giving Kamali a gift creates alot of controversy.

[mantronik]

Pics are deceiving...in ANY show.

So bad conditioning/shape/symmetry/V taper etc etc in pics only show in 1 competitor (your favorite) and not in the rest?