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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #275 on: May 08, 2020, 09:22:13 AM »
I've pretty much always referred to him as "Grasping".

I've pretty much always referred to her as the Village Idiot.

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #276 on: May 08, 2020, 10:08:23 AM »
I've pretty much always referred to her as the Village Idiot.

It's always funny when Mods break their own rules

Still waiting for a Trumptard to explain why Flynn pled guilty

Granted, he is a Trumptard, thus a moron, but is he really such a moron that he was "tricked" into pleading guilty?




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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #277 on: May 09, 2020, 03:08:00 AM »
It's always funny when Mods break their own rules

Still waiting for a Trumptard to explain why Flynn pled guilty

Granted, he is a Trumptard, thus a moron, but is he really such a moron that he was "tricked" into pleading guilty?
The government bankrupted Flynn and threatened to do the same with his son who had nothing to do with anything.  Flynn should sue the shit out of the criminals that bankrupted him when they knew there was no Russian collusion.

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #278 on: May 09, 2020, 12:01:10 PM »
It's always funny when Mods break their own rules

Still waiting for a Trumptard to explain why Flynn pled guilty

Granted, he is a Trumptard, thus a moron, but is he really such a moron that he was "tricked" into pleading guilty?

why did he work for your Gay Muslim Hero then ? are you dumb and not know the facts about the Flynn case ?
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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #279 on: May 09, 2020, 03:26:33 PM »
Trump Says He Fired Michael Flynn ‘Because He Lied’ to F.B.I.

"President Trump said on Saturday that he had fired Michael T. Flynn, his first national security adviser, because he lied not just to the vice president but also to the F.B.I."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/politics/trump-michael-flynn.html?auth=login-email&login=email

So, wouldn't it follow that if Michael Flynn isn't guilty, he didn't lie to the FBI. Which is it? He lied or he didn't lie.

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #280 on: May 09, 2020, 03:49:35 PM »
Trump Says He Fired Michael Flynn ‘Because He Lied’ to F.B.I.

"President Trump said on Saturday that he had fired Michael T. Flynn, his first national security adviser, because he lied not just to the vice president but also to the F.B.I."
https://www.nytimes.com/2017/12/02/us/politics/trump-michael-flynn.html?auth=login-email&login=email

So, wouldn't it follow that if Michael Flynn isn't guilty, he didn't lie to the FBI. Which is it? He lied or he didn't lie.
I don't know but everything will be out in the open soon.

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #281 on: May 09, 2020, 04:04:34 PM »
The government bankrupted Flynn and threatened to do the same with his son who had nothing to do with anything.  Flynn should sue the shit out of the criminals that bankrupted him when they knew there was no Russian collusion.

Why didn't he just tell the truth the begin with instead of lying


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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #282 on: May 09, 2020, 04:13:37 PM »
why did he work for your Gay Muslim Hero then ? are you dumb and not know the facts about the Flynn case ?

Hmmm, Trumps hired lots of people that he later fired so not sure what point you think you're making

Why was Flynn forced out of the DIA?

Why did Obama warn Trump not to hire Flynn?

And again, why didn't Flynn just tell the truth to the FBI

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #283 on: May 09, 2020, 09:01:43 PM »

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #284 on: May 10, 2020, 02:24:05 AM »
Why didn't he just tell the truth the begin with instead of lying
Because of the reasons I stated.

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #285 on: May 10, 2020, 09:06:25 AM »
Hmmm, Trumps hired lots of people that he later fired so not sure what point you think you're making

Why was Flynn forced out of the DIA?

Why did Obama warn Trump not to hire Flynn?

And again, why didn't Flynn just tell the truth to the FBI


Why was Flynn forced out of the DIA? - he was opposed to the corruption he saw, which was coming from Obama's admin

Why did Obama warn Trump not to hire Flynn? Obama did not like Flynn because of above

And again, why didn't Flynn just tell the truth to the FBI - He did as per the notes, he pleaded guilty to make it easier on himself and his family, happens all the time.

Any more questions ?
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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #286 on: May 11, 2020, 05:57:58 AM »
Obama Knew, And Now We Know, Too
DB Daily Update ^ | David Blackmon
Posted on 5/11/2020, 8:04:01 AM by EyesOfTX

It has grown increasingly obvious over the last few weeks that Barack Hussein Obama His Own Self was fully aware of and likely involved in the planning of Spygate from the very beginning. The drip, drip, drip of newly-declassified documents, most of them forced out into the sunlight by Acting DNI Ric Grenell and Attorney General William Barr, is providing an increasingly transparent picture of just what the former president had to know and when he must have known it.

VDO.AI Over the weekend, we talked about the fact that then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates was stunned to discover during a meeting on January 5, 2017 with Obama and James Comey that Obama was fully aware of all of the details surrounding the effort to entrap and frame General Mike Flynn, including the fact that the FBI was illegally recording Flynn’s phone calls during the presidential transition. This meeting occurred more than 3 weeks before the FBI’s carefully-choreographed entrapment interview with Flynn.

So, we know that Obama was intimately involved in that piece of the growing Spygate scandal. But it is almost certain that he was much more deeply involved than that, going all the way back to the germination of the effort to spy on and entrap certain members of the Trump Campaign, which we know began in late 2015.

We know that because all of those efforts were being conducted out of FBI headquarters under the umbrella of a counterintelligence investigation. As former federal prosecutor Andrew McCarthy told Captain Tick-Tock, Sean Hannity Friday evening, counterintelligence investigations are conducted for the president, and their progress is included in the president’s periodic intelligence briefings, which Obama received on a daily basis.

Here is a clip of McCarthy’s comments, followed by a transcript:

Praying Medic @prayingmedic 18) Andrew McCarthy noted that counterintelligence investigations are done to provide information to the President about threats to national security.

The president and his staff are kept informed on investigations through the President's daily brief.#Obamagate

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Transcript:

McCarthy – What I’m saying is not that the president sits there and directs that there be counterintelligence investigations. What I’m saying is that, unlike criminal investigations, counterintelligence investigations are done for the president. The only reason to do them is to inform the president with the information he needs to protect the United States from foreign threats. They are not like criminal investigations in that regard.

So, in principle, the information from a counterintelligence investigation is for the president. And here, we know at various junctures we have actual factual information that this investigation was well-known to President Obama.

Hannity -Ok, so, if he knew, and this is all happening, he had to know about it from the get-go. Doesn’t that also imply that he would have been updated about all of this, if he’s the one that needs it for national security decision making?

McCarthy – Sean, if things were working properly, the President should’ve been alerted about it and informed about it. It was a very important investigation. If they actually believed what they were telling the court, that it was a possibility that Donald Trump was actually a plant of the Kremlin, it would have been derelict on their part not to keep the President informed.

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Now, think about the implications of what McCarthy is telling Captain Tick-Tock in this clip. Everything, every element of Spygate, was coordinated out of the FBI’s counterintelligence division, which at the time was headed up by Bill Priestap, who reported to FBI Deputy Director Andrew McCabe. This is why the demonic Peter Strzok had such a heavy role in every piece of the operation – he reported directly to Priestap at the time. So did FBI agent Joe Pientka, who conducted the Flynn entrapment meeting along with Strzok.

Comey and McCabe and Strzok have all claimed at the FBI formally kicked-off its counterintelligence operation against the Trump Campaign at the end of July, 2016, in an operation they named “Crossfire Hurricane.” But we know from a variety of documents now in the public domain that FBI and CIA operatives were in fact targeting Trump campaign people like George Papadopoulous way back as early as November, 2015.

We also now know that the FBI was engaged with and using information provided by British spy Christopher Steele throughout this entire time frame. And we also know that the FBI was fully aware that Steele’s information – which consisted mostly of salacious rumors provided by agents of Russia and other foreign governments – was highly questionable and very likely false. And finally, we also know that the FBI and DOJ were fully aware that Steele’s efforts were being funded by the Hillary Clinton Campaign and the DNC, which Clinton controlled at that time.

All of this is information that Barack Obama His Own Self almost certainly became aware of through his daily intelligence briefings.

Think about what else was going on under the rubrick of Crossfire Hurricane. That know-to-be-false information provided by Christopher Steele was being used by the FBI as its foundation for defrauding the FISA court and acquiring a series of illegally-obtained FISA warrants. The FBI used one of those illegal warrants to justify the tapping of Trump Transition Team phones, including General Flynn’s.

Obama knew. All of this. Every bit of it.

Now, think back to last Thursday and the breaking news that Acting DNI Grenell had hand-delivered a satchel filled with additional documents directly to Attorney General William Barr. What if those documents included copies of those daily intelligence briefings that were provided to then-president Obama during this time frame?

This could explain why President Trump suddenly switched from using the term “Spygate” to calling it “Obamagate” over the weekend. Obama’s sudden realization of how exposed he had left himself in all of this may have also motivated his decision to leak the tape of his carefully-scripted phone call with the “Obama alumni association” on Saturday.

Obama knew. He knew everything. Throughout the entirety of the 2016 presidential campaign, we had a sitting U.S. president fully aware of and actively participating in a spying operation on the nominee of the opposition party. He thought he was invulnerable because surely Hillary was going to beat Trump.

But then Trump won. And that victory by Trump necessitated the mounting of a coup d’etat on American soil in order to protect Obama and all of his his team, a coup effort that started with the attempt to entrap and frame General Mike Flynn.

Sidney Powell, Flynn’s badass lawyer who has had access now to far more information than is currently in the public domain, certainly thinks this is the case:

Tammy Bruce ✔ @HeyTammyBruce ICYMI video, the full @SidneyPowell1 intv w @MariaBartiromo on @SundayFutures. Much discussed, including: "President Obama was in on plot to 'frame' Flynn, attorney says" https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flynn-attorney-claims-president-obama-was-in-on-plot-to-frame-him

President Obama was in on plot to 'frame' Flynn, attorney says Former national security adviser Gen. Michael Flynn's lead attorney accused top officials of orchestrating a plot to frame her client, insisting that former President Barack Obama himself was in on...

Obama knew. Everything.

This sure will be an interesting week.

That is all.



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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #288 on: May 11, 2020, 10:37:27 AM »
Obama knew.

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #289 on: May 11, 2020, 12:21:32 PM »
President Obama should keep his mouth shut.

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President Obama is being quoted on Flynn, saying "There is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free." It is a curious statement. First and foremost, Flynn was not charged with perjury...

Second, we now know Obama discussed charging Flynn under the Logan Act which has never been used successfully to convict anyone and is flagrantly unconstitutional. Third, this reaffirms reports that Obama was personally invested in this effort. Finally, there is precedent...

There is a specific rule allowing for this motion under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 48(a). There are specific Supreme Court cases like Rinaldi v. United States addressing the standard for such dismissals....

The Justice Department has dismissed cases in the past including the Stevens case.That was requested by President Obama's own Attorney General Eric Holder for the same reason: misconduct by prosecutors. It was done before the same judge, Judge Sullivan. How is that for precedent?

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #290 on: May 11, 2020, 12:22:36 PM »
Obama keeps his mouth open for the old men in the bath house. 

President Obama should keep his mouth shut.

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President Obama is being quoted on Flynn, saying "There is no precedent that anybody can find for someone who has been charged with perjury just getting off scot-free." It is a curious statement. First and foremost, Flynn was not charged with perjury...

Second, we now know Obama discussed charging Flynn under the Logan Act which has never been used successfully to convict anyone and is flagrantly unconstitutional. Third, this reaffirms reports that Obama was personally invested in this effort. Finally, there is precedent...

There is a specific rule allowing for this motion under Federal Rule of Criminal Procedure 48(a). There are specific Supreme Court cases like Rinaldi v. United States addressing the standard for such dismissals....

The Justice Department has dismissed cases in the past including the Stevens case.That was requested by President Obama's own Attorney General Eric Holder for the same reason: misconduct by prosecutors. It was done before the same judge, Judge Sullivan. How is that for precedent?

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #291 on: May 11, 2020, 09:22:41 PM »
Any Obama officials involved in Flynn 'unmasking' declassified: Source

Acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell has declassified a list of former Obama administration officials who were allegedly involved in the so-called “unmasking” of former national security adviser Michael Flynn in his conversations with the former Russian ambassador during the presidential transition, a senior U.S. official tells ABC News.

Grenell, who remains the U.S. ambassador to Germany along with being the acting DNI, visited the Justice Department last week and brought the list with him, according to the official.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-officials-involved-flynn-unmasking-declassified-source/story?id=70624372

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #292 on: May 11, 2020, 10:31:59 PM »
Any Obama officials involved in Flynn 'unmasking' declassified: Source

Acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell has declassified a list of former Obama administration officials who were allegedly involved in the so-called “unmasking” of former national security adviser Michael Flynn in his conversations with the former Russian ambassador during the presidential transition, a senior U.S. official tells ABC News.

Grenell, who remains the U.S. ambassador to Germany along with being the acting DNI, visited the Justice Department last week and brought the list with him, according to the official.

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/obama-officials-involved-flynn-unmasking-declassified-source/story?id=70624372

Could we actually see some accountability here?  Trying not to get my hopes up.

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #293 on: May 12, 2020, 02:31:04 AM »
Could we actually see some accountability here?  Trying not to get my hopes up.
That's the problem, nothing will happen.  If this happened with a Republican administration it would be bigger than Watergate but with libs it won't even be covered much by the MSM.  If Trump goes after them the MSM will make it look like he's a tyrannical leader going after his political opponents like in a banana republic.

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #294 on: May 13, 2020, 01:31:43 PM »
List of officials who sought to 'unmask' Flynn released: Biden, Comey, Obama chief of staff among them

Top Obama administration officials purportedly requested to "unmask" the identity of former national security adviser Michael Flynn during the presidential transition period, according to a list of names from that controversial process made public on Wednesday.

The list was declassified in recent days by Acting Director of National Intelligence Richard Grenell and then sent to GOP Sens. Chuck Grassley and Ron Johnson, who made the documents public. The roster features top-ranking figures including then-Vice President Joe Biden -- a detail already being raised by the Trump campaign in the bare-knuckle 2020 presidential race where Biden is now the Democrats' presumptive nominee.

The list also includes then-FBI Director James Comey, then-CIA Director John Brennan, then-Director of National Intelligence James Clapper, and Obama's then-chief of staff Denis McDonough.

The declassified list specifically showed officials who “may have received Lt. Gen Flynn’s identity in response to a request processed between 8 November 2016 and 31 January 2017 to unmask an identity that had been generically referred to in an NSA foreign intelligence report,” the document, obtained by Fox News, read.

The list revealed that then-U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power made unmasking requests 7 times between Nov. 30, 2016 and Jan. 11, 2017.

The list revealed that Clapper made 3 requests from Dec. 2, 2016 through Jan. 7, 2017;

and that Brennan made 2 requests, one on Dec. 14 and one on Dec. 15, 2016.

Comey also made a request on Dec. 15, 2016.

On Jan. 5, 2017, McDonough made one request, and on Jan. 12, 2017, Biden made one request.

The day McDonough requested the information is the same day as an Oval Office meeting that has drawn scrutiny in the wake of the Flynn developments. The meeting included Obama, Biden, Clapper, Brennan, Comey, then-National Security Adviser Susan Rice and then-Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grenell-releases-list-of-officials-who-sought-to-unmask-flynn-biden-comey-obama-intel-chiefs-among-them

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #295 on: May 13, 2020, 07:52:48 PM »
That's the problem, nothing will happen.  If this happened with a Republican administration it would be bigger than Watergate but with libs it won't even be covered much by the MSM.  If Trump goes after them the MSM will make it look like he's a tyrannical leader going after his political opponents like in a banana republic.

True.  Then there is the fact the Republican party is spineless. 

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #296 on: May 13, 2020, 08:48:29 PM »
The swamp hard at work. 

Lawyer appointed by Judge Sullivan to offer arguments in Flynn case already has slammed Trump WH's 'improper political influence'
By Gregg Re | Fox News
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/judge-sullivan-appoints-third-party-to-present-arguments-against-flynn-consider-holding-him-in-contempt

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #297 on: May 13, 2020, 09:08:29 PM »
List of officials who sought to 'unmask' Flynn released: Biden, Comey, Obama chief of staff among them

The list revealed that then-U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power made unmasking requests 7 times between Nov. 30, 2016 and Jan. 11, 2017.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/grenell-releases-list-of-officials-who-sought-to-unmask-flynn-biden-comey-obama-intel-chiefs-among-them

She has no recollection of the 7 requests she made... For a 49 year old woman she seems to have a very weak memory.

Samantha Power appears on Flynn unmasking list, despite testifying she had 'no recollection' of doing so

Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power sought to obtain Michael Flynn's redacted identity using an "unmasking" request on at least seven occasions, according to newly declassified list of names released Wednesday -- even though Power testified under oath before the House Intelligence Committee that she had “no recollection” of ever making such a request even once.

While sensitive requests to “unmask” individuals -- revealing their identity on a need-to-know basis after the intelligence community intercepts their communications -- are not necessarily improper, the records raised new concerns over exactly who might have leaked details of the Flynn investigation to The Washington Post in January 2017.

That leak apparently was illegal, given national security laws and the classified nature of the Flynn probe. In early January 2017, President Obama loosened rules governing the sharing of intelligence information within the federal government -- which Trump attorney Jay Sekulow said was intended to "pave the way for a shadow government to leak classified information" more easily.

According to transcripts of her testimony released last week, Power claimed: “Any time a U.S. person or entity's name came to me disclosed or annotated, or where I requested it and it came back, I never discussed it with another member of the human race. ... I have no recollection of making a request related to General Flynn.

Power added, “I have never leaked classified information. .. I have never leaked names that have come back to me in this highly compartmented process. I have, in fact, never leaked, even unclassified information.”

At the same time, Power acknowledged she had a “significant appetite for intelligence.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flynn-unmasking-samantha-power-testimony

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #298 on: May 14, 2020, 01:10:25 AM »
She has no recollection of the 7 requests she made... For a 49 year old woman she seems to have a very weak memory.

Samantha Power appears on Flynn unmasking list, despite testifying she had 'no recollection' of doing so

Former U.S. ambassador to the United Nations Samantha Power sought to obtain Michael Flynn's redacted identity using an "unmasking" request on at least seven occasions, according to newly declassified list of names released Wednesday -- even though Power testified under oath before the House Intelligence Committee that she had “no recollection” of ever making such a request even once.

While sensitive requests to “unmask” individuals -- revealing their identity on a need-to-know basis after the intelligence community intercepts their communications -- are not necessarily improper, the records raised new concerns over exactly who might have leaked details of the Flynn investigation to The Washington Post in January 2017.

That leak apparently was illegal, given national security laws and the classified nature of the Flynn probe. In early January 2017, President Obama loosened rules governing the sharing of intelligence information within the federal government -- which Trump attorney Jay Sekulow said was intended to "pave the way for a shadow government to leak classified information" more easily.

According to transcripts of her testimony released last week, Power claimed: “Any time a U.S. person or entity's name came to me disclosed or annotated, or where I requested it and it came back, I never discussed it with another member of the human race. ... I have no recollection of making a request related to General Flynn.

Power added, “I have never leaked classified information. .. I have never leaked names that have come back to me in this highly compartmented process. I have, in fact, never leaked, even unclassified information.”

At the same time, Power acknowledged she had a “significant appetite for intelligence.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/flynn-unmasking-samantha-power-testimony

Oh snap.  Obamagate. 

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Re: In Like Flynn
« Reply #299 on: May 14, 2020, 04:10:47 AM »
True.  Then there is the fact the Republican party is spineless.
Yes, that is always a problem.  Republicans sat in on those closed door meetings and heard testimony that there was no Russian collusion but did or said nothing.  Trump could have been impeached because of their inaction.