I used the legit kigs when they were out there and there is no question they burned fat like crazy. I woke up sweating from them every morning on the dot and my diet was actually bad on them. It wasnt bad in the sense that I wasnt eating alot of protein but I was eating a ton of junk food and had crazy cravings late at night. I ate ice cream, bagels pizza and all that crap and was just getting leaner and in better shape when I threw the kigs in. My bread and buttter is test and primo, meaning nothing too intense and when I put those kigs in, there were dramatic, dramatic changes right away. There are plenty of other people with the same experience as me. I never got a serum test or anything but I know the fat was melting off like crazy while not getting the bloat I got from a recent stint with legit hygetropins.