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Title: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Straw Man on June 15, 2018, 10:04:20 AM
I assume after yesterday IG report we'll see many other people in handcuffs heading to jail

At least that's one of our dumbest moderators believes

Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: mazrim on June 15, 2018, 11:19:00 AM
http://abc13.com/politics/paul-manafort-ex-trump-campaign-chair-ordered-to-jail-/3605878/

Don't worry Straw ,the Trump loyalists will say it's a fake jail . ;D


What does this have to do with Trump again? Please tell so we can understand.
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Straw Man on June 15, 2018, 11:21:54 AM
What does this have to do with Trump again? Please tell so we can understand.

Apparently you've forgotten that Manafort was chairman of Trumps campaign

I know

Your next response will be .....so?

So that is what he has to do with Trump
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 15, 2018, 11:24:48 AM
What does this have to do with Trump again? Please tell so we can understand.

Well, he did say he was going to surround himself with the best people. A few of his best have been indicted.
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Yamcha on June 15, 2018, 11:29:08 AM
Funny thing is that Manafort was working closely with the Podesta brothers during this time period.

Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Yamcha on June 15, 2018, 12:55:53 PM
All I know is  this is part of the Mueller investigation and doesn't look good for team Trump.
Having a journalist spouting an opinion is one thing.
Having your former campaign chair's bail revoked and taken to jail is another.

Trying to tamper with a GOV witness is a serious additional charge.

You can explain how this "doesn't look good for team Trump" I'm sure...
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 01:06:56 PM
“Judge” Amy Berman Jackson - Appointed by Barack Obama

Friday news dump
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 01:11:22 PM
Straw and Howard showing their ignorance once again. Quality entertainment
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Straw Man on June 15, 2018, 01:37:08 PM
Straw and Howard showing their ignorance once again. Quality entertainment

hey phony "coach"

feel free to point out anything I've written in this thread that you think is not accurate

Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 15, 2018, 01:59:13 PM
hey phony "coach"

feel free to point out anything I've written in this thread that you think is not accurate



You working out ? That definitely fakeassnewz
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Howard on June 15, 2018, 02:28:21 PM
Straw and Howard showing their ignorance once again. Quality entertainment

Ok? So Manafort didn't go to jail today? Must have been watching that fake news huh?
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 02:30:44 PM
Ok? So Manafort didn't go to jail today? Must have been watching that fake news huh?

Maybe you missed the part about who sent him?
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Howard on June 15, 2018, 02:32:26 PM
hey phony "coach"

feel free to point out anything I've written in this thread that you think is not accurate


Coach is a real trainer and "strength/conditioning coach" but he's a loyal guy for Team Trump.
I try to be independent minded and form my own opinions.

Team Trump prefer worshiping their fearless leader and refuse to question anything he does or says.
To them, Trump farting makes America smell great again. :D
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 15, 2018, 02:42:54 PM
“Judge” Amy Berman Jackson - Appointed by Barack Obama

Friday news dump

Trump appointed Rosenstien. He appointed Mueller. We good with that? 
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Howard on June 15, 2018, 02:50:07 PM
Maybe you missed the part about who sent him?

The judge didn't do this without obeying due process and having objective evidence he attempted to tamper with a federal witness.
Gen Flynn - already plead guilty
Gates - already plead guilty
Popadopolous (sp?) * ok he's a twink, but he plead guilty
That Dutch lawyer Van Der Hook- plead guilty and went to jail already.
some other minor player plead guilty, but I forgot his name so wtf

Sorry Coach, your team is giving up a lot of TD's. ;)

Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 03:41:27 PM
The judge didn't do this without obeying due process and having objective evidence he attempted to tamper with a federal witness.
Gen Flynn - already plead guilty
Gates - already plead guilty
Popadopolous (sp?) * ok he's a twink, but he plead guilty
That Dutch lawyer Van Der Hook- plead guilty and went to jail already.
some other minor player plead guilty, but I forgot his name so wtf

Sorry Coach, your team is giving up a lot of TD's. ;)



Went over this a long time ago. Not doing it again. What does this have to do with Trump/Russia "collusion" again?
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 03:42:12 PM
Trump appointed Rosenstien. He appointed Mueller. We good with that? 

Soros, Clinton and Obama bought and paid for. Try to keep up.
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Irongrip400 on June 15, 2018, 04:44:00 PM
Was it something to do with Trump other than this dude used to work for him?
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 15, 2018, 05:46:00 PM
Soros, Clinton and Obama bought and paid for. Try to keep up.

Sorry coach but you dropped the ball. You tried to infer that the person who appoints a person to a position automatically makes that person a pawn. You said Obama appointed the judge who sent manafort to custody therefore we can assume it was political. Yet Rosenstien was appointed by Trump, therefore, using YOUR logic, we can assume every decision is pro Trump. YOU need to keep up with your own nonsense
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: mazrim on June 15, 2018, 06:19:30 PM
Apparently you've forgotten that Manafort was chairman of Trumps campaign

I know

Your next response will be .....so?

So that is what he has to do with Trump
Do you know the difference between "this" and "he"?

Also, so?
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: mazrim on June 15, 2018, 06:22:04 PM
Was it something to do with Trump other than this dude used to work for him?
By Grasping's admission, that would be a "No".
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 08:22:42 PM


“In the eyes of the law, he is still innocent, but as of now he’s sitting in jail”

Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 15, 2018, 09:07:01 PM


“In the eyes of the law, he is still innocent, but as of now he’s sitting in jail”



can you respond to my post directed towards you?
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 09:16:01 PM
can you respond to my post directed towards you?
I tend to ignore most posts. Address this one since you responded to it. But just an FYI, I would say 90% of the Democratic Party is corrupt as fuck and it seems no one can prove otherwise
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 15, 2018, 09:51:04 PM
I tend to ignore most posts. Address this one since you responded to it. But just an FYI, I would say 90% of the Democratic Party is corrupt as fuck and it seems no one can prove otherwise

cool, but you really didn't respond to my post.. you offered what I knew was your preferred observation. I also suspect based on your response you have not read a single word of the court transcript that lead to this
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Howard on June 16, 2018, 10:22:34 AM
cool, but you really didn't respond to my post.. you offered what I knew was your preferred observation. I also suspect based on your response you have not read a single word of the court transcript that lead to this

Impossible to know ?

I will say that the bigger problem is how PERSONAL people take things in a political debate.
Sure, I've gotten briefly annoyed or frustrated with emphasis on BRIEF.

I figure we all have sincere beliefs and opinions.

FYI< thanks to you as well for trying to promote civil political discourse.
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2018, 04:20:44 PM


“In the eyes of the law, he is still innocent, but as of now he’s sitting in jail”



"If you do not follow your bail conditions, you can be arrested and criminally charged with failing to comply with your bail. This is also called a breach of bail conditions." https://stepstojustice.ca/common-question-plus/criminal-law/what-happens-if-i-don’t-follow-my-bail-conditions (https://stepstojustice.ca/common-question-plus/criminal-law/what-happens-if-i-don’t-follow-my-bail-conditions)
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Straw Man on June 16, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
I tend to ignore most posts. Address this one since you responded to it. But just an FYI, I would say 90% of the Democratic Party is corrupt as fuck and it seems no one can prove otherwise

LOL

Argument from ignorance much?
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Since it's your moronic claim why don't you prove it's true rather than claiming no one can prove it's false



 



Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2018, 05:11:01 PM
LOL

Argument from ignorance much?
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Since it's your moronic claim why don't you prove it's true rather than claiming no one can prove it's false



 





 :)
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2018, 05:24:26 PM
Isn’t the issue whether he is a flight risk or not ? 

Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 16, 2018, 05:26:41 PM
Isn’t the issue whether he is a flight risk or not ? 



You are the semi expert, there has to be some consideration given to would he continue to attempt to tamper with witnesses...
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Primemuscle on June 16, 2018, 05:54:04 PM
Isn’t the issue whether he is a flight risk or not ?  



This very likely plays into the decision. He is suspected of witness tampering, which I believe is in violation of his bail release as well. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't go down for something. They've mounted such a massive case against him.

Trump appears to be distancing himself for Manafort. It is an example of Trump's one sided loyalty. -Not sure what Trump's strategy is with Manafort. It seems early in the game to throw him under the bus, particularly if Manafort has bargaining chips up his sleeve.  
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Fuzzy Nuts on June 19, 2018, 03:31:47 PM
How far up your own ass , did you pull that 90% of dems figure? ;D
He sucked it out of trumps ass while his lips were there. ;D
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2018, 08:20:15 PM
How far up your own ass , did you pull that 90% of dems figure? ;D

Not too far since it’s obvious
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 09:11:21 PM
This very likely plays into the decision. He is suspected of witness tampering, which I believe is in violation of his bail release as well. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't go down for something. They've mounted such a massive case against him.

Trump appears to be distancing himself for Manafort. It is an example of Trump's one sided loyalty. -Not sure what Trump's strategy is with Manafort. It seems early in the game to throw him under the bus, particularly if Manafort has bargaining chips up his sleeve.  

How do you know this?  Have you seen the evidence against him and evaluated his defenses?
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 09:37:18 PM
How do you know this?  Have you seen the evidence against him and evaluated his defenses?

can you provide evidence to the contrary? A Judge apparently thought their evidence was sufficient.
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 09:57:18 PM
can you provide evidence to the contrary? A Judge apparently thought their evidence was sufficient.

Can I provide evidence to disprove something he pulled out of his rear end?  What a ridiculous question.  

A judge thought the evidence was sufficient to have him stand trial and be locked up pending trial.  What the judge didn't say is there is a "massive case" against him.  Nobody has any idea whether this case is "massive case" or a house of cards.  
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2018, 10:10:03 PM
can you provide evidence to the contrary? A Judge apparently thought their evidence was sufficient.

Either this is a troll question or you truly don’t keep up.....with anything
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
Either this is a troll question or you truly don’t keep up.....with anything

You are right obviously., You belong to the Trump Getbig Team.. so by default, the fact Manifort was ordered to jail BY A JUDGE has nothing to do with evidence...

"A federal judge ordered Paul Manafort to jail Friday over charges he tampered with witnesses while out on bail — a major blow for President Trump’s former campaign chairman as he awaits trial on federal conspiracy and money-laundering charges next month.

“You have abused the trust placed in you six months ago,” U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson told Manafort. “The government motion will be granted, and the defendant will be detained.”

The judge said sending Manafort to a cell was “an extraordinarily difficult decision” but said his conduct — allegedly contacting witnesses in the case in an effort to get them to lie to investigators — left her little choice."
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 10:13:34 PM
Either this is a troll question or you truly don’t keep up.....with anything

It really is a silly question. 
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 10:14:00 PM
You are right obviously., You belong to the Trump Getbig Team.. so by default, the fact Manifort was ordered to jail BY A JUDGE has nothing to do with evidence...

A silly question followed up by a juvenile overstatement. 
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 10:16:06 PM
You guys crack me up
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 10:17:30 PM
Don't let facts get in the way..
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 10:24:41 PM
Don't let facts get in the way..

Good grief.  That's the whole point.  You don't know the facts.  Geeze Louise . . .
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 10:43:36 PM
Good grief.  That's the whole point.  You don't know the facts.  Geeze Louise . . .

wow...
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 10:46:33 PM
wow...

You need a bigger toolbox. 
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 10:51:48 PM
You need a bigger toolbox. 

If you ever want proof of how brainwashed the trumpsters are, just come to this thread
Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 11:04:33 PM
If you ever want proof of how brainwashed the trumpsters are, just come to this thread

You're not impressing anyone with this simpleton-like talk.  You make an overstatement.  Get challenged.  Throw up your hands.  Put people on your "not worth responding to list."  Do you sit back and pout too?  lol 

Title: Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
Post by: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 11:20:05 PM
You're not impressing anyone with this simpleton-like talk.  You make an overstatement.  Get challenged.  Throw up your hands.  Put people on your "not worth responding to list."  Do you sit back and pout too?  lol 


stop it..my sides are hurting!