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Howard

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2018, 10:22:34 AM »
Quote from: Agnostic007 on June 15, 2018, 09:51:04 PM
cool, but you really didn't respond to my post.. you offered what I knew was your preferred observation. I also suspect based on your response you have not read a single word of the court transcript that lead to this

Impossible to know ?

I will say that the bigger problem is how PERSONAL people take things in a political debate.
Sure, I've gotten briefly annoyed or frustrated with emphasis on BRIEF.

I figure we all have sincere beliefs and opinions.

FYI< thanks to you as well for trying to promote civil political discourse.
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Primemuscle

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2018, 04:20:44 PM »
Quote from: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 08:22:42 PM


“In the eyes of the law, he is still innocent, but as of now he’s sitting in jail”



"If you do not follow your bail conditions, you can be arrested and criminally charged with failing to comply with your bail. This is also called a breach of bail conditions." https://stepstojustice.ca/common-question-plus/criminal-law/what-happens-if-i-don’t-follow-my-bail-conditions
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Straw Man

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2018, 04:50:38 PM »
Quote from: Coach is Back! on June 15, 2018, 09:16:01 PM
I tend to ignore most posts. Address this one since you responded to it. But just an FYI, I would say 90% of the Democratic Party is corrupt as fuck and it seems no one can prove otherwise

LOL

Argument from ignorance much?
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Since it's your moronic claim why don't you prove it's true rather than claiming no one can prove it's false



 



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Agnostic007

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2018, 05:11:01 PM »
Quote from: Straw Man on June 16, 2018, 04:50:38 PM
LOL

Argument from ignorance much?
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_ignorance

Since it's your moronic claim why don't you prove it's true rather than claiming no one can prove it's false



 





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Soul Crusher

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2018, 05:24:26 PM »
Isn’t the issue whether he is a flight risk or not ? 

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Agnostic007

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2018, 05:26:41 PM »
Quote from: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2018, 05:24:26 PM
Isn’t the issue whether he is a flight risk or not ? 



You are the semi expert, there has to be some consideration given to would he continue to attempt to tamper with witnesses...
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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2018, 05:54:04 PM »
Quote from: Soul Crusher on June 16, 2018, 05:24:26 PM
Isn’t the issue whether he is a flight risk or not ?  



This very likely plays into the decision. He is suspected of witness tampering, which I believe is in violation of his bail release as well. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't go down for something. They've mounted such a massive case against him.

Trump appears to be distancing himself for Manafort. It is an example of Trump's one sided loyalty. -Not sure what Trump's strategy is with Manafort. It seems early in the game to throw him under the bus, particularly if Manafort has bargaining chips up his sleeve.  
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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #32 on: June 19, 2018, 03:31:47 PM »
Quote from: Howard on June 19, 2018, 01:24:09 PM
How far up your own ass , did you pull that 90% of dems figure? ;D
He sucked it out of trumps ass while his lips were there. ;D
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Coach is Back!

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #33 on: June 19, 2018, 08:20:15 PM »
Quote from: Howard on June 19, 2018, 01:24:09 PM
How far up your own ass , did you pull that 90% of dems figure? ;D

Not too far since it’s obvious
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Dos Equis

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #34 on: June 19, 2018, 09:11:21 PM »
Quote from: Primemuscle on June 16, 2018, 05:54:04 PM
This very likely plays into the decision. He is suspected of witness tampering, which I believe is in violation of his bail release as well. I'll be very surprised if he doesn't go down for something. They've mounted such a massive case against him.

Trump appears to be distancing himself for Manafort. It is an example of Trump's one sided loyalty. -Not sure what Trump's strategy is with Manafort. It seems early in the game to throw him under the bus, particularly if Manafort has bargaining chips up his sleeve.  

How do you know this?  Have you seen the evidence against him and evaluated his defenses?
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Agnostic007

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #35 on: June 19, 2018, 09:37:18 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 09:11:21 PM
How do you know this?  Have you seen the evidence against him and evaluated his defenses?

can you provide evidence to the contrary? A Judge apparently thought their evidence was sufficient.
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Dos Equis

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #36 on: June 19, 2018, 09:57:18 PM »
Quote from: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 09:37:18 PM
can you provide evidence to the contrary? A Judge apparently thought their evidence was sufficient.

Can I provide evidence to disprove something he pulled out of his rear end?  What a ridiculous question.  

A judge thought the evidence was sufficient to have him stand trial and be locked up pending trial.  What the judge didn't say is there is a "massive case" against him.  Nobody has any idea whether this case is "massive case" or a house of cards.  
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Coach is Back!

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #37 on: June 19, 2018, 10:10:03 PM »
Quote from: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 09:37:18 PM
can you provide evidence to the contrary? A Judge apparently thought their evidence was sufficient.

Either this is a troll question or you truly don’t keep up.....with anything
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Agnostic007

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #38 on: June 19, 2018, 10:13:05 PM »
Quote from: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2018, 10:10:03 PM
Either this is a troll question or you truly don’t keep up.....with anything

You are right obviously., You belong to the Trump Getbig Team.. so by default, the fact Manifort was ordered to jail BY A JUDGE has nothing to do with evidence...

"A federal judge ordered Paul Manafort to jail Friday over charges he tampered with witnesses while out on bail — a major blow for President Trump’s former campaign chairman as he awaits trial on federal conspiracy and money-laundering charges next month.

“You have abused the trust placed in you six months ago,” U.S. District Judge Amy Berman Jackson told Manafort. “The government motion will be granted, and the defendant will be detained.”

The judge said sending Manafort to a cell was “an extraordinarily difficult decision” but said his conduct — allegedly contacting witnesses in the case in an effort to get them to lie to investigators — left her little choice."
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Dos Equis

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #39 on: June 19, 2018, 10:13:34 PM »
Quote from: Coach is Back! on June 19, 2018, 10:10:03 PM
Either this is a troll question or you truly don’t keep up.....with anything

It really is a silly question. 
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Dos Equis

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #40 on: June 19, 2018, 10:14:00 PM »
Quote from: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 10:13:05 PM
You are right obviously., You belong to the Trump Getbig Team.. so by default, the fact Manifort was ordered to jail BY A JUDGE has nothing to do with evidence...

A silly question followed up by a juvenile overstatement. 
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Agnostic007

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #41 on: June 19, 2018, 10:16:06 PM »
You guys crack me up
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Agnostic007

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #42 on: June 19, 2018, 10:17:30 PM »
Don't let facts get in the way..
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Dos Equis

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #43 on: June 19, 2018, 10:24:41 PM »
Quote from: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 10:17:30 PM
Don't let facts get in the way..

Good grief.  That's the whole point.  You don't know the facts.  Geeze Louise . . .
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Agnostic007

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #44 on: June 19, 2018, 10:43:36 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 10:24:41 PM
Good grief.  That's the whole point.  You don't know the facts.  Geeze Louise . . .

wow...
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Dos Equis

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #45 on: June 19, 2018, 10:46:33 PM »
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Agnostic007

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #46 on: June 19, 2018, 10:51:48 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 10:46:33 PM
You need a bigger toolbox. 

If you ever want proof of how brainwashed the trumpsters are, just come to this thread
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Dos Equis

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #47 on: June 19, 2018, 11:04:33 PM »
Quote from: Agnostic007 on June 19, 2018, 10:51:48 PM
If you ever want proof of how brainwashed the trumpsters are, just come to this thread

You're not impressing anyone with this simpleton-like talk.  You make an overstatement.  Get challenged.  Throw up your hands.  Put people on your "not worth responding to list."  Do you sit back and pout too?  lol 

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Agnostic007

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Re: Judge sends Paul Manafort to jail, pending trial
« Reply #48 on: June 19, 2018, 11:20:05 PM »
Quote from: Dos Equis on June 19, 2018, 11:04:33 PM
You're not impressing anyone with this simpleton-like talk.  You make an overstatement.  Get challenged.  Throw up your hands.  Put people on your "not worth responding to list."  Do you sit back and pout too?  lol 


stop it..my sides are hurting!
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