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Believes the 12th Imam (sp?) will come back at any moment. Apparently in his dining room and whereever he goes he has an extra place set in case the 12th Iman will come back.
The 12th iman died at age 5 like 1000 years ago. Apparently he was the last direct descendant of Mohommat, or some similar such person. This guy is a religious nut.
But.....he only wants nuclear energy.
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Some people think George W Bush is the messiah, ...and they have nuclear weapons
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I say they debate. Hell, if the guy is full of crap, bush can present teh facts. Let the world see he's crazy. However, if you asked 6 billion people who the bigger tyrant is, a nut from iran who just got into office and wants the bomb, or bush...
well, I think we all know who is gonna get the vote...
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Nothing like being a terrorist sympathizer....right Jag?
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Some would say you are as well. George Bush is doing the same things they do, just the other way around.
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Some would say you are as well. George Bush is doing the same things they do, just the other way around.
Your freaking joking....right?
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We had just about as much right to go to Iraq as Suddam would have invading Mexico. You honestly don't think it was the least bit wrong Mr.I? Sending are troops into harms way for what???
Do you really believe were safer now?
You are delusional, your hate of liberals is blinding you and people like you are hurting this country big time.
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If Churchill *had* debated Hitler over the radio for the world to hear, it could have prevented WWII. Consider this:
Suppose they had debated. Hitler would have made all sorts of racist claims, threats, and lies, right? Then, Churchill would have responded, refuting Hitler's points and making him look like an ass for the world. you agree so far?
Okay. The people of the world are listening, right? The people who live in Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, as well as their leaders, all hear Hitler and determine that he is an ass and he is a fool. They would not believe in his message if Churchill could disprove it.
And, as a result, the countries of Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania might not have became Hitler's allies in WWII. And without allies, he couldn't have invaded countries as he did.
So you see, an open exchange of ideas, for the world to hear, allows other nations to see a leaders' true colors. A psycho exposed will gain no allies.
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You cannot compare the President of a non-democratic land like Iran with the President or head of state of a democracy like USA, France, Germany or Canada.
Iran has ways to go before becoming a true democracy.
Bush, for all his incompetence, still has democratic values, and a basic respect for democracy.
This is somewhat lacking with Ahmadinejad.
Still, you cannot either compare Iran to Iraq or North Korea, or terrorist organisations.
Iran is too developed and too rich to ever go to war with anyone IMO. They simply got a good thing going for them with their oil and natural gas.
That doesn't make their lack of real democracy right. But I find it very unlikely that Iran would even consider making efforts outside their border. That, to me, is all rhetorics to please the masses.
YIP
Zack
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Iran is too developed and too rich to ever go to war with anyone IMO. They simply got a good thing going for them with their oil and natural gas.
That doesn't make their lack of real democracy right. But I find it very unlikely that Iran would even consider making efforts outside their border. That, to me, is all rhetorics to please the masses.
Correct. But the US Media tells us every night what a terrible threat they are. bush is trying to sell us on a war against them. I agree they have no reason to attack, and would be committing suicide by doing so. But over here, it's on the news every night.
Bush has already said that we will not be withdrawing from Iraq as long as he's president. And he's made it very clear that Iran is in his crosshairs.
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Nothing like being a terrorist sympathizer....right Jag?
Who is a terrorist sympathizer. I've made it clear I neither support nor condone terrorism.
Does the fact that I prefer to declare people terrorists based on actual terrorist acts they committed rather than based on the say so of a known liar & terrorist make me a terrorist sympathizer?
Is this thread not about the president of Iran? Are you now saying he is a terrorist, ...and if so why?
Is it because he opposes President Bush's plans for Iran? Has it come to this, anyone not agreeing with Bush or his plans is a terrorist? ...like when his Secretary of Education called 'The National Education Association' (NEA) ..."a terrorist organization". How about all the librarians he pissed off, ...were they terrorists too, ...or just terrorist sympathizers? ::)
BTW - I last guy I heard about that vindictively leveled that charge against an innocent person got jail time. You ready to risk it?
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BTW - I last guy I heard about that vindictively leveled that charge against an innocent person got jail time. You ready to risk it?
LMAO, you're really Kamali impersonating Jag arn't you?? Yeah, sure, what the I'll risk it...LOL..... Damn, you really are delusional arn't you?? LOL!
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No, in a one on one debate anyone can claim anything they want, for the most part. Twist anything around, proclaim outright lies.
Even if that were not the case, do you think Bush can match up with that guy. Ha. Pathetic. I wouldn't mind seeing Tony Blair debate him though.
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No, in a one on one debate anyone can claim anything they want, for the most part. Twist anything around, proclaim outright lies.
And Bush can demand proof. Then he can make his own accusations, and DELIVER proof. In every other aspect of life, when you are challenged, you deliver a comeback, supported by evidence, and you convince the undecided. Problem is, the US has its hands so dirty that they don't want anything coming out.
Even if that were not the case, do you think Bush can match up with that guy. Ha. Pathetic. I wouldn't mind seeing Tony Blair debate him though.
Bush isn't the most eloquent guy around. But if he can tell the truth in 20 words, it won't matter what rhetoric the Iranian leader can spew.
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Believes the 12th Imam (sp?) will come back at any moment. Apparently in his dining room and whereever he goes he has an extra place set in case the 12th Iman will come back.
The 12th iman died at age 5 like 1000 years ago. Apparently he was the last direct descendant of Mohommat, or some similar such person. This guy is a religious nut.
But.....he only wants nuclear energy.
the sunnis dont believe as such...the whole point of the islam is NOT to give the same importance to anyone thats given to god...
hense the problem with jesus being god...
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BTW - I last guy I heard about that vindictively leveled that charge against an innocent person got jail time. You ready to risk it?
with an IP comes an address...and Ron would HAVE to give it out if such a charge were made... :)
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demand proof?" what are they gonna do, stop in the middle of the debate, get all the experts from both sides and all possible evidence.
Iran: "The holocaust never happened"
Bush: "Yes it did. It is accepted by any serious historian."
Iran: "no, it is a big zionist scam to make Western countries feel guilty and to help the Israeli's by giving them Israel in the first place. The great historian David Irvin and blah blah blah both said it is gorssly exagerrated....The Jewish influence is so big in your own country you don't even know the truth. Here is an Iranian textbook detailng how it didn't happen."
etc, etc, etc.
Yes, you can say or twist any "fact" anyway you want. That is why it would be pointless.
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Don't forget about about Iran saying they wanted Israel wiped off the face of the map and supplying Hezzbolah with rockets and unmanned surveillance with explosives, and Hezzbolah embedding terrorists (yes Jag, they are indeed terrorists)...er...I mean "solders" in civilian neighborhoods and hospitals!!
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I support Israel's right to cook iran with as many bombs as they wish. That is between them. If iran was giving rockets to Canada to fire into the US, I'd be pro-war here.
But Iran hasn't done anything to us. So we shoudn't send our men to die in Iran for Israel's beef with them. The Israeli armed forces are evry good, and they can destroy iran quickly should they choose to do so. They don't need us, and with 2 ongoing wars already, I cannot see putting our resources in a 3rd basket. We can argue that Afghan had bin laden and iraq had WMD - even if some do not believe those claims.
But arguing that we should send men to die in Iran because iran helped leb terrorists is just insane. Israel can destroy Tehran tomorrow if they choose to, and it is A-Ok with me. But to send our boys over there to die is not a good idea.
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good posts 240.
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If Churchill *had* debated Hitler over the radio for the world to hear, it could have prevented WWII. Consider this:
Suppose they had debated. Hitler would have made all sorts of racist claims, threats, and lies, right? Then, Churchill would have responded, refuting Hitler's points and making him look like an ass for the world. you agree so far?
Okay. The people of the world are listening, right? The people who live in Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania, as well as their leaders, all hear Hitler and determine that he is an ass and he is a fool. They would not believe in his message if Churchill could disprove it.
And, as a result, the countries of Italy, Japan, Hungary, Romania might not have became Hitler's allies in WWII. And without allies, he couldn't have invaded countries as he did.
So you see, an open exchange of ideas, for the world to hear, allows other nations to see a leaders' true colors. A psycho exposed will gain no allies.
posts like these make it all worthwhile.
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good posts 240.
thanks. many classify me as anti-war or pro-islamist or whatever. I'm really not.
i feel the war in Afghanistan was necessary to ensure the illicit yet accepted heroin flow into the united states. Afghan poppy farmers produced 90% of the world's opium. Then the Taliban took over, and with their extreme religious beliefs, they had shut down most of Afghanistan's drug exporting by Spring of 2001. The US invasion ensured the northern Alliance, with their looser standards, could revitalize the drug market, and they did (I'm not making this up folks- look it up. our market uses laundered drug money as the free cash flow required for 2 sides of a transaction to use credit at once)
*note- I am not speaking morally. I am speaking from a nationalist standpoint. Invading Afghanistan helped our economy immensely)
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posts like these make it all worthwhile.
lol are you being sarcastic?
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i feel the war in iraq was necessary to ensure the US and Israel establish a presence in the region to do a few things-
1) Allows a base of operations for diplomatic, military, political, spying, observational, and other purposes.
2) Allows us to control the puppet regime which will take power next in Iraq.
3) Allows us to manage Iraq's oil output. They can't do it theirselves, so we'll do it for them and we'll keep all resource allocation secret. You can trust us not to siphon your resources though- we're the good guys.
4) Allows a war base for the US invasion of Iran which will occur after a very spectacular and very unprovoked event from Iran. I know, the leader of Iran wants diplomacy. But we have guns. And they'll attack before the elections, because they hate our freedoms. The ripple effect putting repubs into office is just a coincidence.
note- again - this is not an endorsement or a condemnation - this is merely an objective view of the events and circumstances.
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I support Israel's right to cook iran with as many bombs as they wish. That is between them.
240 do you believe Israel has a "right" to cook Iran, ...or is it that you believe Israel has a "desire" (albeit understandable or not, justifiable or not). Is it that you support it, ...or that you think it's not your right to interfere with Israeli / Iranian affairs?
If iran was giving rockets to Canada to fire into the US, I'd be pro-war here.
Then using that rationale, can you begin to gain an understanding why many Palestinians have an intense hatred for Israel's supplier of the advanced weaponry that Israel uses to annihilate Palestine and the Palestinians?
I'm not asking if you support the Palestinian deathwish for Israel and her supplier, ...just whether you can see where they're coming from?
Let me ask you something else? If Iran was giving Canada rockets to fire into the US, would you think Iran could be legitimately considered an accomplish in the deaths or genocides those rockets produced in the US population? And if and when the Canadian people put the Prime Minister responsible for the US deaths on trial for genocide and war crimes against humanity, ...would it not be prudent or fair or just, to also name Iran as the PM's accomplice?
But Iran hasn't done anything to us. So we shoudn't send our men to die in Iran for Israel's beef with them. The Israeli armed forces are evry good, and they can destroy iran quickly should they choose to do so. They don't need us, and with 2 ongoing wars already, I cannot see putting our resources in a 3rd basket. We can argue that Afghan had bin laden and iraq had WMD - even if some do not believe those claims.
But arguing that we should send men to die in Iran because iran helped leb terrorists is just insane. Israel can destroy Tehran tomorrow if they choose to, and it is A-Ok with me. But to send our boys over there to die is not a good idea.
Ever since the start of the 33 day war, I've been doing alot of research into Hez.
Did you know that there are only 6 countries around the world that classify Hezbollah as a terrorist organization?
Those 6 countries are: - UK,
- USA,
- Israel,
- Canada,
- Australia,
- Netherlands
That's it, ...just 6. Everyone else views them as a national militia organization & valid political party.
Just last week a Canadian official resigned amid much controversy because he proposed "Don't you think it's time we stopped calling Hez a terrorist org. They also do not operate in any other country except Lebanon.
Did you also know that some time ago, another organization (the name escapes me at the moment) made overtures to Hez in the spirit of 'my enemy's enemy is my friend', ...and Hez told them to take a hike?
BTW - Did you also know that Margaret Thatcher at one time had declared that Nelson Mandela was a terrorist?
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i feel the war in iraq was necessary to ensure the US and Israel establish a presence in the region to do a few things-
1) Allows a base of operations for diplomatic, military, political, spying, observational, and other purposes.
2) Allows us to control the puppet regime which will take power next in Iraq.
3) Allows us to manage Iraq's oil output. They can't do it theirselves, so we'll do it for them and we'll keep all resource allocation secret. You can trust us not to siphon your resources though- we're the good guys.
4) Allows a war base for the US invasion of Iran which will occur after a very spectacular and very unprovoked event from Iran. I know, the leader of Iran wants diplomacy. But we have guns. And they'll attack before the elections, because they hate our freedoms. The ripple effect putting repubs into office is just a coincidence.
note- again - this is not an endorsement or a condemnation - this is merely an objective view of the events and circumstances.
240,
Do you believe the war was necessary, or is it that you believe the war met the objectives of PNAC?
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Any group that fires missiles indiscriminantly into civilian territory with no purpose other than to kill civilians qualifies as a terrorist group to me.
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Any group that fires missiles indiscriminantly into civilian territory with no purpose other than to kill civilians qualifies as a terrorist group to me.
Correct. But why would the US get into a THIRD war, when we're barely maintaining in Afghanistan and arguably losing in Iraq?
I agree it's a terrorist act to shoot rockets into cities. And if ISR wants to use their military to cook Iran, so be it. But we have no business in there.
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We were all (USA) terrorists once. ;)
What's an oppressed/out numbered/out gunned group of people to do?
Turn the other cheek?
Sleep on a bed of cluster bombs?
Fuck 'em I'd do the exact same if i was leboneese.
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Correct. But why would the US get into a THIRD war, when we're barely maintaining in Afghanistan and arguably losing in Iraq?
I agree it's a terrorist act to shoot rockets into cities. And if ISR wants to use their military to cook Iran, so be it. But we have no business in there.
Just read Bush's last speech. We are preparing to make our business. Guaranteed.
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240 do you believe Israel has a "right" to cook Iran, ...or is it that you believe Israel has a "desire" (albeit understandable or not, justifiable or not). Is it that you support it, ...or that you think it's not your right to interfere with Israeli / Iranian affairs?
Yes, Israel hs the RIGHT to defend itselves aginst TERRORISTS!
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Yes, Israel hs the RIGHT to defend itselves aginst TERRORISTS!
And vice versa.
anyone has the right to defend it's self agaisnt aggression and oppression by what ever means at their disposal.
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I say they debate. Hell, if the guy is full of crap, bush can present teh facts. Let the world see he's crazy. However, if you asked 6 billion people who the bigger tyrant is, a nut from iran who just got into office and wants the bomb, or bush...
well, I think we all know who is gonna get the vote...
If you think Bush is a tyrant come out and say it. No beating around the bush.
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They are not going to debate... that guy would shread Bush. Plus it wouldn't serve Bush politically but it would serve the other guy.
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Hey 240,
I noticed you didn't answer my question. Maybe you missed it.
That's ok... feel free to send the answers in PM along with any more great videos you find if that'll save some time. :)
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Yes, Israel hs the RIGHT to defend itselves aginst TERRORISTS!
ABSOLUTELY! And if I was israel, by now I woudl have leveled Leb and i'd be using Beirut as a launching base for all the fire I was about to rain down on Iran.
But I'm not Israel. We have zero business fighting a 3rd war that doesn't involve us. I support israel's right to declare war on leb and iran for helping. But for our boys to die in a field in Iran because of their beef? no way.
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ABSOLUTELY! And if I was israel, by now I woudl have leveled Leb and i'd be using Beirut as a launching base for all the fire I was about to rain down on Iran.
But I'm not Israel. We have zero business fighting a 3rd war that doesn't involve us. I support israel's right to declare war on leb and iran for helping. But for our boys to die in a field in Iran because of their beef? no way.
Let me ask you this: Why exactly do you think Israel has a right to declare war on Lebanon?
YIP
Zack
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Let me ask you this: Why exactly do you think Israel has a right to declare war on Lebanon?
First, i could care less with either country does. They've both broken the rules in this conflict.
Those little babybuster carpet bombs leaving undetonated ballistics in Leb residential areas- wrong. blowing up every road that matters and setting the country back 20 years - wrong.
Those pricks shooting rockets into residential areas and using fmailies as shields - very wrong.
But it is none of the US' business. If ISR wants to start a war with syria, Leb, iran, switzerland, antarctica, I could care less. The US already has two wars we can't handle. Starting a third would be foolish.
So yeah, I don't have an opinion in that conflict, other than i won't shed tears for either side when they lose.
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It looks like current US war plans call for a two day air war that will decapitate Iran's C&C. Then destroy most of their Airforce or Air defense at the very least followed by direct airstrikes on the nuclear facilities. Israel is supposed to be looking to do the same. No ground troops.
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It looks like current US war plans call for a two day air war that will decapitate Iran's C&C. Then destroy most of their Airforce or Air defense at the very least followed by direct airstrikes on the nuclear facilities. Israel is supposed to be looking to do the same. No ground troops.
yeah, but we thought ground casualties would be minimal in Iraq and we were wrong. we never thought we'd still be losing men regularly in Afghan, 4.5 year later. Technology has really leveled the playing field. We might have all the smart weapons in teh world, but the ability of the enemy to use the media has restricted the use of those weapons.
One pic of a cute little girl with her arms blown off will outrage 1 billion people into doing some crazy shit. So even thuogh we might have the technology to blow them to dust, the second we get rough, we lose the PR war.
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First, i could care less with either country does. They've both broken the rules in this conflict.
Hizbollah, not Lebanon is sending missiles into Israel. What rules have Lebanon broken?
So yeah, I don't have an opinion in that conflict, other than i won't shed tears for either side when they lose.
I support israel's right to declare war on leb and iran for helping.
Which is it, do you have an opinion or not?
YIP
Zack
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Hizbollah, not Lebanon is sending missiles into Israel. What rules have Lebanon broken?
Let's generate a custom scenario:
A political party forms in a western country. This is a armed force, hating it's neighbours. This politcal party kills civillians of the bordering countries, and doesn't recognise the bordering countries rights to exist. They murder and kidnap civilians of other countries. They brainwash children etc etc.
All the time the elected goverment (of the western country we use in these scenario) allows this to happen.
Now... the goverment isn't at all responsible?
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Let's generate a custom scenario:
A political party forms in a western country. This is a armed force, hating it's neighbours. This politcal party kills civillians of the bordering countries, and doesn't recognise the bordering countries rights to exist. They murder and kidnap civilians of other countries. They brainwash children etc etc.
All the time the elected goverment (of the western country we use in these scenario) allows this to happen.
Now... the goverment isn't at all responsible?
Great scenario, and I think it serves a very valid point.
Lets say this would be Ireland, and that IRA is the "political party", aka terrorist organisation, going into Northern Ireland and the UK for terrorist acts.
1. I certainly think Ireland has a responsibility in cooperating with UK.
2. UK can't start fire into Ireland regardless. They would have to try diplomacy first.
3. If that doesn't work, wet jobs would be a last resort, but never outright war actions into Irish territory.
Honestly, good idea with the scenario bro. Helps put things in perspective.
YIP
Zack
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IRA was formed to gain independence from England.
The threat of the IRA really is overly publicised, mainly because it happens in Britain.
IRA terrorists are very different to muslims in the fact that they aren't necessarily religious, and if they are, they are Christian.
Muslims are willing to commit suicide to hurt their enemies. Plus the targets of IRA terrorist were not people.
Comparing the IRA to muslims is like comparing something poles apart. The only similarity is that they are both terrorists.
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IRA was formed to gain independence from England.
The threat of the IRA really is overly publicised, mainly because it happens in Britain.
IRA terrorists are very different to muslims in the fact that they aren't necessarily religious, and if they are, they are Christian.
Muslims are willing to commit suicide to hurt their enemies. Plus the targets of IRA terrorist were not people.
Comparing the IRA to muslims is like comparing something poles apart. The only similarity is that they are both terrorists.
My point was that there are really no excuses for Israel to start an open military operation into another country.
BTW, the Northern Ireland conflict is heavily rooted in the Catholic-Protestant conflict, with IRA being catholics. So religion is a big part of that conflict, but that's not the issue.
The issue, as you brought up,
Now... the goverment isn't at all responsible?
I say yes. They are responsible. No country should be a haven for terrorists.
But, and here's where I strongly object to the actions of Israel, all nations are supreme in theirselves. You cannot intervene into another country. It's against international law.
A covert wet operation would be a different matter IMO.
Diplomacy is always best, and getting Lebanon to cooperate with Israel to disarm the Hizbollah would be the best solution, but if military action has to be taken, covert wet jobs are the only possible option.
YIP
Zack
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But, do you think diplomatic actions would result in Lebanon disharming Hezzofags?
I say no, history says no, and common sense says NO.
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Let's generate a custom scenario:
A political party forms in a western country. This is a armed force, hating it's neighbours. This politcal party kills civillians of the bordering countries, and doesn't recognise the bordering countries rights to exist. They murder and kidnap civilians of other countries. They brainwash children etc etc.
All the time the elected goverment (of the western country we use in these scenario) allows this to happen.
Now... the goverment isn't at all responsible?
Your custom scenario is slightly skewed by innacuracy.
A political party forms in a western country. This is an armed force hating the neighbours who have occupied their lands for 20 yrs. They operate only within their borders and their focus is on providing humanitarian aid and social services to the citizens of their country, ...driving out foreign occupants on their land, and protecting their border from encroachment by their neighbours. They kidnap 2 soldiers who have crossed the border and entered into their land, and attempt to engage in a prisoner exchange with their neighbours, exchanging those soldiers for government officials and fellow countrymen held in the jails of their neighbour. Their neighbour responds by bombing the country's international airport, and creating a devastating oil spill. The armed political party responds by launching rockets in their neighbours yard. The neighbour drops cluster bombs into civilian neighbourhoods. The political party responds by launching more rockets into their neighbours yard. After the fighting ends, the political party rushes in, registers all civilians who have been hurt, and within 48hrs, provides them with the equivalent of 2.5 yrs pay, and vows to rebuild their homes. I think that's a more accurate analogy.
The Lebanese government can no more rid themselves of Hezbollah than the USA can rid itself of the Republicans.
update:
The Lebanese government can no more rid themselves of Hezbollah than the USA can rid itself of the Republicans, or the Democrats, or the millions of American NRA members who likewise refuse to disarm and give up the weapons they feel they need to protect themselves.
Hope That Clarifies :)
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But, do you think diplomatic actions would result in Lebanon disharming Hezzofags?
I say no, history says no, and common sense says NO.
The only way Hez is going to disarm, is if Lebanon no longer faces a threat from Israel, ...or unless they come out on the losing end of a bloody civil war. Considering their renewed & infact increased popularity, ...especially after the 33 day war, that scenario is hardly likely. :-\
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But, do you think diplomatic actions would result in Lebanon disharming Hezzofags?
I say no, history says no, and common sense says NO.
If diplomatic actions include economic sanctions, or threat thereof, yes.
EU and USA threat of sanctions of Lebanon could start it off.
Regardless, Israel needs to be buddies with Lebanon. A raid into Lebanon is like pissing in the pants - it gets warm instantly, but in the long run it gets cold as hell.
To be honest though, the chances of diplomacy working.. :-\
I still believe that is the way you have to start off though. It's what civilized countries do. If those options are ruled out, fewer can bitch when you bring in wet jobs.
YIP
Zack
YIP
Zack
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Your custom scenario is slightly skewed by innacuracy.
A political party forms in a western country. This is an armed force hating the neighbours who have occupied their lands for 20 yrs. They operate only within their borders and their focus is on providing humanitarian aid and social services to the citizens of their country, ...driving out foreign occupants on their land, and protecting their border from encroachment by their neighbours. They kidnap 2 soldiers who have crossed the border and entered into their land, and attempt to engage in a prisoner exchange with their neighbours, exchanging those soldiers for government officials and fellow countrymen held in the jails of their neighbour. Their neighbour responds by bombing the country's international airport, and creating a devastating oil spill. The armed political party responds by launching rockets in their neighbours yard. The neighbour drops cluster bombs into civilian neighbourhoods. The political party responds by launching more rockets into their neighbours yard. After the fighting ends, the political party rushes in, registers all civilians who have been hurt, and within 48hrs, provides them with the equivalent of 2.5 yrs pay, and vows to rebuild their homes. I think that's a more accurate analogy.
The Lebanese government can no more rid themselves of Hezbollah than the USA can rid itself of the Republicans.
Jag you're pro Hezzofaggos?
So you're a supporter of terrorism?
You're such a cliche student style liberal apeasing apologist it makes me fucking SICK. >:(
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Leb could have said "Dear World. We can't control the Hez. Please help us".
Might have been suicide. Might have cleaned house. but they're endorsing their behvior.
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Jag you're pro Hezzofaggos?
So you're a supporter of terrorism?
You're such a cliche student style liberal apeasing apologist it makes me fucking SICK. >:(
Resorting to your gay-ass apologist tactic again eh?
Can't face the BLATANT fact terrorism that invovled the deaths of innocent civilians happened in your own country by non-muslims again eh?
BTW, America independence history has it's own terroristic acts against Enlgand. HAHAHHAHA
You fail to have any objectivity cause you are blinded by ignorance and fear regarding the situtation down there in lebanon.
So now i supposed i shoould APOLOGIZE for you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
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Leb could have said "Dear World. We can't control the Hez. Please help us".
Might have been suicide. Might have cleaned house. but they're endorsing their behvior.
First, i could care less with either country does. They've both broken the rules in this conflict.
Hizbollah, not Lebanon is sending missiles into Israel. What rules have Lebanon broken?
So yeah, I don't have an opinion in that conflict, other than i won't shed tears for either side when they lose.
I support israel's right to declare war on leb and iran for helping.
Which is it, do you have an opinion or not?
YIP
Zack
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I try not to follow it too much. Detracts from my homeland mission of 911 Truth.
But it seems that Leb allowed Hez to do as it pleased. Hez fired rockets into civvie targets. Isl went overboard and bombed every road it could. They both suck :)
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Resorting to your gay-ass apologist tactic again eh?
Can't face the BLATANT fact terrorism that invovled the deaths of innocent civilians happened in your own country by non-muslims again eh?
BTW, America independence history has it's own terroristic acts against Enlgand. HAHAHHAHA
You fail to have any objectivity cause you are blinded by ignorance and fear regarding the situtation down there in lebanon.
So now i supposed i shoould APOLOGIZE for you. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
FagMo
Like I said, the only similarity is they are terrorists.
Are hezzofags terrorists?
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FagMo
Like I said, the only similarity is they are terrorists.
Are hezzofags terrorists?
^^^^^^grasping.............. ;D
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FagMo
Like I said, the only similarity is they are terrorists.
Are hezzofags terrorists?
Apply the definition. What was applicable to the IRA is also applicable to Hezbollah.
I apologize for your lack of research. ;D
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Jag you're pro Hezzofaggos?
So you're a supporter of terrorism?
You're such a cliche student style liberal apeasing apologist it makes me fucking SICK. >:(
Yes she is, but remember what she told me. "the last person who accused her of something that wasn't true found himself in jail" or something stupid like that............I'm still waiting!
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Yes she is, but remember what she told me. "the last person who accused her of something that wasn't true found himself in jail" or something stupid like that............I'm still waiting!
I think she wold be talking about "in person"
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I think she wold be talking about "in person"
Then why would she ask me If I was "ready for that" meaning going to jail!!
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Then why would she ask me If I was "ready for that" meaning going to jail!!
Saber rattling trash talk on a forum that's all. Meaningless.
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Then why would she ask me If I was "ready for that" meaning going to jail!!
She actually said that? ROFLMAO!
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I support Israel's right to cook iran with as many bombs as they wish. That is between them. If iran was giving rockets to Canada to fire into the US, I'd be pro-war here.
But Iran hasn't done anything to us. So we shoudn't send our men to die in Iran for Israel's beef with them. The Israeli armed forces are evry good, and they can destroy iran quickly should they choose to do so. They don't need us, and with 2 ongoing wars already, I cannot see putting our resources in a 3rd basket. We can argue that Afghan had bin laden and iraq had WMD - even if some do not believe those claims.
But arguing that we should send men to die in Iran because iran helped leb terrorists is just insane. Israel can destroy Tehran tomorrow if they choose to, and it is A-Ok with me. But to send our boys over there to die is not a good idea.
bush = inside zionist pocket..HE HAS to do it...or try...
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bush = inside zionist pocket..HE HAS to do it...or try...
(http://www.ncsu.edu/meridian/sum2001/lesson_plans/lesson_plan_image/boring2.jpg)
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Any group that fires missiles indiscriminantly into civilian territory with no purpose other than to kill civilians qualifies as a terrorist group to me.
correct..by that definition...Israel is a terrorist state :)
hez ws just looking for high level terrorist israeli officials..too bad they were hiding in civillian colonies...
2 can play this game :)
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(http://www.ncsu.edu/meridian/sum2001/lesson_plans/lesson_plan_image/boring2.jpg)
go away christian fundie...shooo.now...
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If you think Bush is a tyrant come out and say it. No beating around the bush.
Bush is a tyrant and deservs the death penalty...there...
now come back and tell me i'm anti american ::) should be easier to do since i'm ex paki...
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Bush is a tyrant and deservs the death penalty...there...
now come back and tell me i'm anti american ::) should be easier to do since i'm ex paki...
go away christian fundie...shooo.now...
Boring...
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Saber rattling trash talk on a forum that's all. Meaningless.
Dude, she the last person on this site I'd worry about!
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She actually said that? ROFLMAO!
actualy a white friend of mine lost his job and had to do community service cause he called some arab kid a terrorist in DC...
most DC night clubs are arab owned..poor guy didn't know that
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Boring...
u do realize you hardly ever make a valid argument manni.....
plus..u r obsessed with my picture... :)
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Dude, she the last person on this site I'd worry about!
the only person i'd worry about on this forum would be Johnny. that devious psychotic ass would probably stalk someone here if properly motivated.
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most DC night clubs are arab owned..poor guy didn't know that
Yeah but the Jews own the Arabs...
So by proxy Jews own the night clubs...
So therefore, you injest large quantities of horse sperm.
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Yeah but the Jews own the Arabs...
So by proxy Jews own the night clubs...
So therefore, you injest large quantities of horse sperm.
lmao..did your girl fuck a muslim dood or something..now a plain sound bitter...
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Do these clubs have a Falahfel happy hour? I love those things!
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lmao..did your girl f**k a muslim dood or something..now a plain sound bitter...
Bitter? My last post was supposed to be comical ???
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Do these clubs have a Falahfel happy hour? I love those things!
lol no..they r regular clubs..tekno..house..hip crap..etc..of the top of my head famous DC clubs arab owned..
Divas...Club VIP...cellar...club red..the 18 st lounge( saw mathew machonoway sp? in there once ) ...bar/club dragonfly...zuza lounge...the blue room...the most famous strip joint in g-town is part greek part arab owned..i frget the fucking name..night shift..no no..thats b-more..fuck i forget.. (i know cause someone i dated..her uncle owned it..hense i ws forbidden from entering >:( )
its only when u r in the vip room when the arab hits ya..its mostly arabic music....meh
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Bitter? My last post was supposed to be comical ???
u happen to sound bitter a lot bro... :-\
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u happen to sound bitter a lot bro... :-\
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hmm ???
Oh well.
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correct..by that definition...Israel is a terrorist state :)
hez ws just looking for high level terrorist israeli officials..too bad they were hiding in civillian colonies...
2 can play this game :)
no, toxic, you are wrong. Israel has never fired a missile indiscriminantly into civilian areas. First off, one reason HEZ does that is because their missiles are very inaccurate so their best bet is to just shoot them into the middle of a city to kill infidels. They would not be able to hit a military target if they tried with any success rate.
As for Israel, they have dropped numerous pamphlets warning citizens to leave areas that are going to be under attack. HEZ, and many other pathetic muslim groups, set up their ammo depots and military installations in heavily populated areas on purpose. If Israeli holds back on completely lighting the place up, than that is reason enough. Of course, an added plus, if civilians die- just more that they can parade on the news to try and get support when they are losing the battle they started. They could care less about the civilians dying. Thos who are pulling the strings behind this give two shits about some poor ignorant muslim blowing himself up. YOu notice none of the preachers ever try and become martyrs themselves.
Stations lilke Al-Jazeera (and CNN) show repeated images of bombed apt buildings in Lebanon and worse. They realize that this is not such a bad thing to HEZ, and is in fact part of their plan to make Israel (and by association) and USA look bad and evil. Because, every ill in the middle east is a result of zionist israel and its supporters in the USA.
The rampant illiteracy, poverty, oppression of women, barbaric laws-hell, just being stuck in the 7th century in general. How dare outside forces try to enlighten these people and their "peaceful" religion? Hell, some country i never heard of prints a cartoon in a newspaper i can't read and goddamn it lets go burn some embassies (of countries who give us billions of aid) and chant death to america (even though they have nothing to do with it).
Hey jaguar, go move to one of these muslim countries. Try to wear what you wear around your town. YOu would get gangraped and then beaten and left to die as an example. They could care less what you have to say, in fact the very notion that anything you (as a woman)say would be of value or something they need/want to hear would be so outrageous they would make your death even slower and more cruel.
The dumb are always intrigued by the drum. In this case it is the liberal holier than thou-hate our culture-its all our fault beat that is the loudest.
Anyway, I could give two shits about israel. But if i was them, i would flatten the F out of the whole goddamn lebanon area. Enough is enough.
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my rant of the day
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hez should burn, i agree.
but even many neutral parties agreed that the way ISR detroyed Leb infrastructure was excessive.
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hez should burn, i agree.
but even many neutral parties agreed that the way ISR detroyed Leb infrastructure was excessive.
Thank god at least some people have objectivity.
What about the thousands of Cluster Bombs? I suppose that will never be viewed as attacks agaisnt civilians.
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no, toxic, you are wrong. Israel has never fired a missile indiscriminantly into civilian areas.
{LOL}
Well you certainly got that right. They didn't send indiscriminate missiles in,
...they sent carefully targeted cluster bombs into civilian neighbourhoods.
As for Israel, they have dropped numerous pamphlets warning citizens to leave areas that are going to be under attack. HEZ, and many other pathetic muslim groups, set up their ammo depots and military installations in heavily populated areas on purpose.
Ya, I realized they warned them to get out, but with the roads & bridges bombed to smithereens, how were they supposed to? ::) And for a group that got all their ammo depots blown to smithereens, ...they sure had a lot of rockets to keep firing back.
Hey jaguar, go move to one of these muslim countries. Try to wear what you wear around your town. YOu would get gangraped and then beaten and left to die as an example.
Kinda like Getbig? {lol} :D
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Kinda like Getbig? {lol} :D
You laugh, but why don't you prove yourself and do it?
Libbys : ALL FUCKING TALK...
You are by far the most opinionated fuckwhit I have come across.