disagree like it was stated both exercises contain an "S" movement in them and while yes you can still do the exercise you cannot simulate the "S" on a smith unless its the kind where the guides move and even then I wouldnt know how effective it is. smiths have their place but dont try and tell ppl they can take the place of free weights in movement...
What a load of absolute bullshit. Do the damn exercise. It feels the same. Free weight devotees really are close-minded knuckleheads. Toss all the free weights into the ocean and make our sport a better thing. Get rid of all that clanging and tossing weights down. This is primitive bodybuilding at its worst.
i sold this smith machine for a few years....it allowed the bar to move front to back and up and down....so essentially it just balanced the bar from side to side for you....
LMAO first off I said the smith machine has its place so I dont know why you lumped me into the free weight devotee knuckle head crowd...but whatever makes it easier for you to get by 2nd a machine that only allows for motion along one path does not feel that same as doing the exercise with free moving weights that allow you to move the weight ALONG THE NATURAL LINE OF THE MOTION which is an "S"...sorry to burst your 80 yrs of training knowledge hoss
To Dr Chimps. Your personal attacks are pathetic and shameful as well. Do you ever have anything to contribute to bodybuilding besides trivia crap? Stay out of my threads you asshole.
You are splitting hairs to justify what you do or don't do. Typical of muscleheads who don't want to use machines or being seen using them. If it feels the same then it is the same. What could be simpler?
youre defending the smith to justify what you do...i can here you saying the same bs to potential clients lolI use the smith but not for bench press, ill do hack squats on them from time to time but mainly for yates row, shrugs and calve raises I also use machines in my workouts too so dont try and explain my viewpoint as the typical free weight "knuckle head"being ignorant is one thing but being willingly ignorant is another you sir are willingly ignorant
No, I let members train the way they want. Occasionally when I am there I correct poor form. Everyone is an expert after a while. Oblivious but experts just the same!
Basile is so fired up, he's probably had to change his "dignity briefs" 3-4 times by now!
This is a pretty cool machine. I use it at my gym
There is no more irritating gym stereotype than the guy who goes around "correcting poor form".
This is true, and people will not listen to you anyway 99% of the time. There is an old dude (must be almost 80) that trains around the same time as me these days. He uses pretty terrible form on most everything, including push ups that look like he is trying to fuck something rather than work his upper body. The thing he does that bothers me, and I probably should help him, is this really aggressive version of a cable crossover with too much weight. I would go as far as to say that he couldn't even tell you what muscle group he is attempting to work. He has a good chance at fucking something like his shoulders up doing this "exercise", but despite being qualified to truly help him, I just keep whatever hat I'm wearing pulled low and listen to my music. I bet the guy would walk away in spite of me being clean now, saying "damn steroids...who the hell is he to talk to me like that"....haha, but it isn't even a joke...
