No, BEAST, these are "originals". I'm gonna try find the one where he has full Napoleon attire on. I dont know if you know, Ben is a full-on Napoleon Bonaparte freak, he is president of some society, owns the biggest collection of Napoleon artifacts, even wrote a book.
Thats why it took so long for the IOC to give that "ok-you-can-come-and-play-with-us-but-only-when-nobody-is-watching-status". He's too busy playing dress-up. I dont wanna know what Joe does...
They're both too busy, for too long now. They've exploited enough bbers, and made enough cash.
Its true Gunther, Roland or even Rolf Moeller could have maybe done it, filled Arnold's void.
But now, its too late. The game has evolved to true freaks which wont appeal to anyone.
Back in Arnold's day, he was the freak, and people could still handle it, but now its on another level, a comical level. Also, communication skills help, which Haney had, but S.Ray and Labrada excelled at.
Back to arms, that Pastel pic reminded me of the great physique he had.
Unbelievable arms and abs, tiny waist.
very true, but i wonder if the physiques really have become too freaky.
arnold had about the same freak value back in the day, but the big difference was, he made himself accessable to the public. he ingratiated himself in such a way that he actually laughed with them. while gironda, ross and scott were talking about taking 400 liver tablets and 5 gallons of milk a day, arnold was saying, "fuck that, i drink beer and smoke cigars. milk is for calves and i've never seen a liver tablet."
yes, he was bullshitting the whole time, but no more than, say, larry scott who kept up the fascade, "no, i've never taking steroids. i just started drinking milk and rheo blairs and boom, my arms went from 14 to 20"
of course, devout christians never lie and neither did larry until he finally made a confession 20 years after he retired with "just 20mgs of dianabol per day, honest." yeah, right larry, we'll believe you again, sure why not.
why did guys like rolf and levrone have to quit bbing altogether to make movies, while arnold actually came out of retirment from bbing competition to prepare for movie roles? something askew there. i believe bbing just lost contact with the general public (where arnold had paved the way) and i believe the reason for that is because the weiders have done everything they can to eliminate personalities and individualism (arnold) and, because of the arnold snub, he has sent bbers back to the gym cult like naughty school kids. i mean, just look at these guys and how they behave, 'father of bbing', weider this and weider that, busks with other people's bodies propping a ridiculously narcisistic self portrait.
weider was never going to risk another arnold (bigger than him) even it meant costing future promotion of the sport. it's not like he needed the money. he was defrauding billions with his supplement empire.