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Title: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 09:12:50 AM
SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control (video)
 RealClearPolitics ^ | January 9, 2013 | RealClearPolitics

Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:05:36 PM by



Vice President Joe Biden, while addressing representatives of gun safety and gun violence victims' groups, says President Obama could use "executive orders" to enact gun control measures.

VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: "The president is going to act. There are executives orders -- executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the Attorney General and all the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action, we believe is required."


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LOL.   Obama is acting more like a dictator and hitler by the day. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: blacken700 on January 09, 2013, 09:19:44 AM
all presidents use the executive order   ::)         here we go with the hitler thing
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 09:21:36 AM
all presidents use the executive order   ::)         here we go with the hitler thing

And W did it you leftists were screaming and up in arms remember? 

Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: blacken700 on January 09, 2013, 09:23:56 AM
bush did it 291 times
obama 144


bush must be the bigger hitler  :D
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 09:25:29 AM
bush did it 291 times
obama 144


bush must be the bigger hitler  :D

 ::) 

again - when the best the left thugs can do is compare Obama to W - you have already lost. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: blacken700 on January 09, 2013, 09:27:18 AM
::) 

again - when the best the left thugs can do is compare Obama to W - you have already lost. 

how did i know you would go there
saint reagan  381    :D :D :D
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: dario73 on January 09, 2013, 09:28:12 AM
And W did it you leftists were screaming and up in arms remember? 



And there lies the hypocrisy. W was called out relentlessly for it by the left and many times compared to Hitler by some leftwing nut jobs.

Libtards can not claim to be impartial.
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 09:29:09 AM
And there lies the hypocrisy. W was called out relentlessly for it by the left and many times compared to Hitler by some leftwing nut jobs.

Libtards can not claim to be impartial.

They are worshiping their cult messiah. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: blacken700 on January 09, 2013, 09:30:11 AM
so was reagan hitler  :o
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: 240 is Back on January 09, 2013, 09:31:40 AM
i remember back in 2005... I was reminding republicans on getbig that all the power they were happy to give to Bush - woudl make President Hilary the most powerful president in history.

Granted, hilary didn't win... but it's the same thing...
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 09:34:11 AM
i remember back in 2005... I was reminding republicans on getbig that all the power they were happy to give to Bush - woudl make President Hilary the most powerful president in history.

Granted, hilary didn't win... but it's the same thing...

O-THUG did not get to this point overnight. 

He has been enabled by a sycophantic media and a cult of personality that worship the shit that comes out of his kenyan ass. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: blacken700 on January 09, 2013, 09:36:08 AM
O-THUG did not get to this point overnight. 

He has been enabled by a sycophantic media and a cult of personality that worship the shit that comes out of his kenyan ass. 

next time don't run a loser,it's that simple
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 09:37:31 AM
next time don't run a loser,it's that simple

Has nothing to do w the 24/7 cult of personality worship the left and the media give this spawn of Satan. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: blacken700 on January 09, 2013, 09:39:47 AM
Has nothing to do w the 24/7 cult of personality worship the left and the media give this spawn of Satan. 

your using your crazy talk now,makes you look foolish
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 09:41:39 AM
your using your crazy talk now,makes you look foolish

Read the lyrics and tell me ANYTHING different here.

Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: blacken700 on January 09, 2013, 09:46:42 AM
Read the lyrics and tell me ANYTHING different here.



good song haven't heard that in a while
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 09:48:00 AM
SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control (video)
 RealClearPolitics ^ | January 9, 2013 | RealClearPolitics

Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 12:05:36 PM by



Vice President Joe Biden, while addressing representatives of gun safety and gun violence victims' groups, says President Obama could use "executive orders" to enact gun control measures.

VICE PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN: "The president is going to act. There are executives orders -- executive action that can be taken. We haven't decided what that is yet. But we're compiling it all with the help of the Attorney General and all the rest of the cabinet members as well as legislative action, we believe is required."


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LOL.   Obama is acting more like a dictator and hitler by the day. 

SWEET

I hope there is website where we can turn in nutbags like you

Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 09:57:16 AM
Because you feel like you are sving the nation by disarming the public - instead of having LE do it - why dont you progressive communists and leftists take point on that and you go door to door to do it. 

I never said I want to "disarm the public"

I think we have all agreed on this site that we have a problem with people who have undiagnosed mental problems having access to guns

You are a perfect example of such a person and we need to have a way to alert the government to be aware of people like you and if necessary take YOUR guns

Not everyones guns

Just people like you
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 09:58:02 AM
HEHEHEHE!!

Look at this tough guy.

The leftists and communists won't do the dirty work - instead they will force LE to do the job they refuse to and as a result many will get injured and killed and these leftist scumbags will absolve themselves of the bloodhed directly a result of their tryanny.  

Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 09:58:49 AM
HEHEHEHE!!

Look at this tough guy.

oh brother

by what authority would I would able to legally take anyones guns and when is it my job to do so ?

Also, why would I want to go to the piss and shit stained ghetto where 333 lives ?
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 10:01:08 AM
The leftists and communists won't do the dirty work - instead they will force LE to do the job they refuse to and as a result many will get injured and killed and these leftist scumbags will absolve themselves of the bloodhed directly a result of their tryanny.  

I'd be glad to do it if it were my job

I'm sure the day will come when someone with the authority to do so will show up at your door and take your guns and you will no doubt cave in and hand them over with nothing more than a whimper and then scurry back to you laptop to tell everyone how angry you are
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 10:02:58 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/04/obama-forgets-w/#.UO2te9e7OC4.twitter

Obama lied his ass off as always. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 10:04:34 AM
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 10:04:45 AM
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2008/04/obama-forgets-w/#.UO2te9e7OC4.twitter

Obama lied his ass off as always. 

Hey 333

do you deny we have a problem in this country with people with undiagnosed mental problems getting access to guns
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 10:14:35 AM
Hey 333

do you deny we have a problem in this country with people with undiagnosed mental problems getting access to guns

No, because all of the mass murderers who committed these atrocities were already under some type of treatment or drug regime by the "mental health profession" as it was. 

Perhaps addressing the failings of that idiot in Colorado who refused to report the Aurora shooter who said he was going to kill people might go farther than disarming the law abiding public. 

Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 10:19:08 AM
No, because all of the mass murderers who committed these atrocities were already under some type of treatment or drug regime by the "mental health profession" as it was. 

Perhaps addressing the failings of that idiot in Colorado who refused to report the Aurora shooter who said he was going to kill people might go farther than disarming the law abiding public. 



NOT TRUE AT ALL

where do you get this shit?
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 11:09:46 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/09/joe-biden-gun-group_n_2440359.html


Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 11:19:36 AM
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/09/joe-biden-gun-group_n_2440359.html

this link doesn't explain your statement below

No, because all of the mass murderers who committed these atrocities were already under some type of treatment or drug regime by the "mental health profession" as it was.  

Perhaps addressing the failings of that idiot in Colorado who refused to report the Aurora shooter who said he was going to kill people might go farther than disarming the law abiding public.  


Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 11:23:32 AM
this link doesn't explain your statement below


VA Tech was known phsycho on drugs

Gabby Giffords shooter that dude was known batshit crazy

Aurora lunatic was under care thratening to kill people

Lanza was known to be batshit crazy and soon be sent to a home.  


Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 11:59:04 AM
VA Tech was known phsycho on drugs

Gabby Giffords shooter that dude was known batshit crazy

Aurora lunatic was under care thratening to kill people

Lanza was known to be batshit crazy and soon be sent to a home.  


and yet NONE of those descriptions matches your statement that

"all of the mass murderers who committed these atrocities were already under some type of treatment or drug regime by the "mental health profession"

I have never seen someone who claimed to be a lawyer who is so incredibly sloppy with words and facts as you are

The fact is that we need a way to start identifying these people before they start shooting

Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Fury on January 09, 2013, 12:11:25 PM
i remember back in 2005... I was reminding republicans on getbig that all the power they were happy to give to Bush - woudl make President Hilary the most powerful president in history.

Granted, hilary didn't win... but it's the same thing...

I remember you claiming that Obama would never even so much as entertain the idea of enacting further gun control.
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 12:11:36 PM
aren't you the person ALWAYS CRYING about the new rules?

how about you stay on topic an answer the question about how were can identify these nuts before they start shooting

These people were identified by their threats to shoot people by and large and nothing was done.  

FYI - I have never and will never initiate violence against anyone.  

That is not the same thing as stating if something did happen to someone that i would not be upset about it.  
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 12:14:17 PM
These people were identified by their threats to shoot people by and large and nothing was done.  

FYI - I have never and will never initiate violence against anyone.  

That is not the same thing as stating if something did happen to someone that i would not be upset about it.  

yep, sounds familiar ?

nothing get's "done" until after they kill a bunch of people

Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 12:16:36 PM
yep, sounds familiar ?

nothing get's "done" until after they kill a bunch of people



Not really - show me one post EVER threatening to initiate violence against anyone? 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 12:22:02 PM
Not really - show me one post EVER threatening to initiate violence against anyone? 

are you joking ?

you've done it many times but I'm not going to waste my time

how about you just never do it again

can you manage that?
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 12:22:58 PM
are you joking ?

you've done it many times but I'm not going to waste my time

how about you just never do it again

can you manage that?

You made the claim I threatened people - back it up. 

Use the search function. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 12:25:21 PM
You made the claim I threatened people - back it up. 

Use the search function. 

You've wished violence on all kinds of people - mostly anyone who supports Obama

are you denying that ?
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 12:27:11 PM
You've wished violence on all kinds of people - mostly anyone who supports Obama

are you denying that ?


And apparently you dont grasp the different between saying

"I will . . . .. "

"I want to . . . . ."

"I plan on . . . . . "

"I am arranging to . . . ."


vs:

"I could care less if every obama voter jumped off a skyscraper" 

"I could care less if every obama voter were eaten by sharks" 

etc etc


You don't see the difference? 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 12:29:35 PM

And apparently you dont grasp the different between saying

"I will . . . .. "

"I want to . . . . ."

"I plan on . . . . . "

"I am arranging to . . . ."


vs:

"I could care less if every obama voter jumped off a skyscraper" 

"I could care less if every obama voter were eaten by sharks" 

etc etc


You don't see the difference? 


yep, and you actively wished violence on people

not "I could care less" etc..
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 12:33:17 PM
yep, and you actively wished violence on people

not "I could care less" etc..


So?  How is that a threat to anyone?  I wish Obama would try to follow the USC once and awhile - but that aint happening either.   
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 12:34:08 PM

So?  How is that a threat to anyone?  I wish Obama would try to follow the USC once and awhile - but that aint happening either.   

great point

actively wishing violence on people is not making a threat ?
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 12:35:51 PM
great point

actively wishing violence on people is not making a threat ?

Go read a law book. 

 

Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 12:43:01 PM
Go read a law book. 

is there where you learned that laws are supposed to PREVENT crime?
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 12:52:54 PM
White House recruits foundations on gun effort
 politico ^ | 1/8/13 | REID J. EPSTEIN


Posted on Wednesday, January 09, 2013 1:31:18 PM


The White House on Tuesday afternoon reached out to major philanthropic foundations not typically associated with gun control to gauge how much they are willing to get involved in President Obama’s future gun violence prevention efforts, according to a person on the call.

The call, which featured Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, Jonathan Greenblatt, the director of the White House Office of Social Innovation and Civic Participation, and members of Vice President Biden’s staff, was largely a “listening session,” according to the person on the call, who represents a foundation invited to participate.

The person said the call included the Open Society Institute, the McCormick Foundation, the Robert Wood Johnson Foundation and the California Endowment. Those groups, which traditionally work in public health fields, have not previously been identified with major gun control efforts.


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Where was all this effort to get to the bottom of Fast n Furious? 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 09, 2013, 12:57:15 PM
great point

actively wishing violence on people is not making a threat ?

Let's not forget the "I hope a nuke goes off in DC" or "shoot ghetto thugs", "every Obama voter should be put to death", etc....
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 12:59:44 PM
Let's not forget the "I hope a nuke goes off in DC" or "shoot ghetto thugs", "every Obama voter should be put to death", etc....


Show me one post ever threatening violence on anyone.   Even one from either of you two fools. 

Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 01:00:23 PM
Let's not forget the "I hope a nuke goes off in DC" or "shoot ghetto thugs", "every Obama voter should be put to death", etc....

I recall a recent one about wanting to throw people in a alligator pit
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 09, 2013, 01:02:20 PM

Show me one post ever threatening violence on anyone.   Even one from either of you two fools. 



Your daily meltdowns are full of violence references.  But don't worry, no one takes them seriously.  Pussy like you is no threat at all to anyone.
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 01:03:08 PM
Your daily meltdowns are full of violence references.  But don't worry, no one takes them seriously.  Pussy like you is no threat at all to anyone.

So?  Where did I ever threaten anyone? 

Post it. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: LurkerNoMore on January 09, 2013, 01:13:53 PM
 ::)

Found this gem right away.  And didn't even bother to look for the ones about setting people on fire, etc..

If a nuke went off in DC and took out all of these criminals and traitors, I would celebrate loudly. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 01:22:29 PM
::)

Found this gem right away.  And didn't even bother to look for the ones about setting people on fire, etc..


search function isn't working for me

even when I search for the words "obama" or "biden" I get nothing

spell check doesn't work either

not sure why
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 01:26:29 PM
search function isn't working for me

even when I search for the words "obama" or "biden" I get nothing

spell check doesn't work either

not sure why

And even what lurker posted is not a threat. 

Again show me where I ever threatened anyone even once. 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Straw Man on January 09, 2013, 01:33:41 PM
And even what lurker posted is not a threat. 

Again show me where I ever threatened anyone even once. 
search function doesn't work for me

you've already admitted you have a wished violence on people (and have been provided examples) which is a form of a threat so why don't you just stop talking for once



Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 01:34:43 PM
search function doesn't work for me

you've already admitted you have a wished violence on people (and have been provided examples) which is a form of a threat so why don't you just stop talking for once





LOL!!!!   

Do you even know what a threat is? 
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Hugo Chavez on January 09, 2013, 01:46:11 PM
I gotta agree with 3333 on this. 

For one thing, the president will not be able to reverse the supreme court on the 2nd so if he's planning on rounding up guns with an executive order, lol...  The supreme court is one avenue for overturning executive order.  So if it's already against the court's ruling, then uh, nope he can't do that.

But anyway Obama promised that he would not use signing statements as an end run around congress.  The video is on youtube.  Signing statements are what the president changes with legislation before signing into law.  He's already broke his promise on that. 

Now with executive order, it sounds like he's looking to go around congress on an issue that congress should absolutely deal with.  That's breaking the spirit of the promise he made with signing statements even worse.

Congress can cancel his executive orders but they'll be pussies and won't.
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 01:51:02 PM
I rather the collective judgment of 535 a-holes (even if its what I don't want), vs the dictatorial fiat of 1 person usurpring power not meant for this purpose just because he can't convince the congress to go along w him on this. 

I gotta agree with 3333 on this. 

For one thing, the president will not be able to reverse the supreme court on the 2nd so if he's planning on rounding up guns with an executive order, lol...  The supreme court is one avenue for overturning executive order.  So if it's already against the court's ruling, then uh, nope he can't do that.

But anyway Obama promised that he would not use signing statements as an end run around congress.  The video is on youtube.  Signing statements are what the president changes with legislation before signing into law.  He's already broke his promise on that. 

Now with executive order, it sounds like he's looking to go around congress on an issue that congress should absolutely deal with.  That's breaking the spirit of the promise he made with signing statements even worse.

Congress can cancel his executive orders but they'll be pussies and won't.
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Jack T. Cross on January 09, 2013, 02:39:36 PM
It'll be very interesting.
Title: Re: SHOCK: Biden: Obama Can Use "Executive Orders" To Act On Gun Control
Post by: Soul Crusher on January 09, 2013, 02:43:45 PM
It'll be very interesting.

Yes - to see how the obama sycophants excuse away his tyranny