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Getbig Female Info Boards => Open Talk for Girl Discussion => Topic started by: Parker on February 09, 2007, 04:04:01 PM
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This is the most often used term for people, mostly women for the reason why they degrade themselves or let others either degrade them or walk all over them. Not having a father-figure, blah, blah, blah...
Do you agree, tthat in most cases that this is correct or is it an excuse for bad behavior?
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Not sure, but usually people who allow themselves to be degraded, or degrade themselves, have a low sense of self-worth, don't they? Anyone who has a healthy sense of themselves will express that in a positive way, won't they?
Are you thinking of something specific?
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Not sure, but usually people who allow themselves to be degraded, or degrade themselves, have a low sense of self-worth, don't they? Anyone who has a healthy sense of themselves will express that in a positive way, won't they?
Are you thinking of something specific?
No, just noticed how people, women in general seems to have this "low self esteem issues". Which affects their image of themselves, their weight, relationships, etc. And sometimes it can be the attractive woman, or a woman like Oprah.
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the heck with Oprah. think about yourself.
you are low?
get over it
xL
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A fact- the more attractive a woman, the lower her self esteem. If I only knew that when I was a teenager! ;D
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A fact- the more attractive a woman, the lower her self esteem. If I only knew that when I was a teenager! ;D
Lol, why do people say that all the time? It gets passed on like some urban legend. There are many attractive people who have great self-esteem just as there are ugly people who have terrible self-esteem. I find that occasionally, when I go down and visit the sexy board or some of the alphabet boards, there are threads practically dedicated to woman-bashing, and you can tell from the way some of the posters write that they have terrible relationships or none at all and that they're very bitter. Seems like guys have just as many issues with self-esteem as women do. :-\
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Lol, why do people say that all the time? It gets passed on like some urban legend.
It helps men with their own low self-esteem issues?
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Haha good call Miggsy!
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none of the above is true, 'xecept what deedee posted, which I've just re-read.
but I still blame men.
I lived through the 70s and 80s, when women decided they didn't need men. I hated feminism.
i feel so sorry for men
(that's if you're attempting to date a woman and she starts crying about her father and you try to comfort her).
Perhaps we ought to go back to the old days and forget about self esteem and just get on with it and help others.
maybe it's hormonal?
xL
maybe you should try to see her again on a good day?
in the old days they had marriage to look foward to.
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A fact- the more attractive a woman, the lower her self esteem. If I only knew that when I was a teenager! ;D
again, not true. The more beautiful a person is, the better they are
(it's what a person is like inside that counts, and if you have a great body too, you're born lucky.
that's my answer to the beginning of your post.
the second bit points to another round of low self worthesteembullshit. Get over it.
xL
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can I triple post, I know it's not allowed, but the modify thing takes forever.
I'll admit to huge confidence, no fear really, but a few self-love issues (like I'll bash myself up for something before anyone else can... but I'm a woman.
& I'm Pisces and that's in my stars.
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Linda
i have more belief in others than i do in myself and i'm one of the best.
wanna talk about male ego?
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Women with low self-esteem = easy to have sex with ;D
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Women with low self-esteem = easy to have sex with ;D
go for it and look at yourself in the mirror the next day, ok?
that also says a lot about your sense of self, do you mean you can only get laid when the woman is in a bad way? well done
xL
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go for it and look at yourself in the mirror the next day, ok?
that also says a lot about your sense of self, do you mean you can only get laid when the woman is in a bad way? well done
xL
I think I hit a nerve!
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I think I hit a nerve!
no, no, I'm fine. I'm just sick and tired of male friends whom I've known forever giving me a hug when my dad dies and getting a fuckinghardon.
no worries.
it's not your fault.
xL
I just wonder what I'm supposed to feel like.
If i wasn't confused I'd feel...
I still worry about the man ego, it hasn't progressed for many decades
xL
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no, no, I'm fine. I'm just sick and tired of male friends whom I've known forever giving me a hug when my dad dies and getting a fuckinghardon.
no worries.
it's not your fault.
xL
Hahahaha brilliant ;D
And I bet they try: "Stay at my place tonight if you need a friend." Hahahahaha
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and they offer you a meal, just to watch your teary eyes cry and to have a peek at your swollen lips and cheeks
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and they offer you a meal, just to watch your teary eyes cry and have a peek at your swollen lips and cheeks
And when you are crying with your head down.... that is when we sneak a peak down your top ;D
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hello, all women on the getbig womens area: get your guard up, do not fall prey to all that caringshit men attempt, they've only got one emotion at a time after all and it's usually the one where they try to fuck you.
We've got to get our esteem back and have girlfriends to talk to, to compare notes.
xL
gotta go out
love ya mean it
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This is the most often used term for people, mostly women for the reason why they degrade themselves or let others either degrade them or walk all over them. Not having a father-figure, blah, blah, blah...
Do you agree, tthat in most cases that this is correct or is it an excuse for bad behavior?
I agree. I believe whole heartedly that majority of women have parental issues and are basket cases with low self esteem. Absolutley!
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no, no, I'm fine. I'm just sick and tired of male friends whom I've known forever giving me a hug when my dad dies and getting a fuckinghardon.
no worries.
it's not your fault.
xL
I just wonder what I'm supposed to feel like.
If i wasn't confused I'd feel...
I still worry about the man ego, it hasn't progressed for many decades
xL
Most men over the age of 17 are not going to be sufficiently aroused by a hug. Are you sure you're not imagining these erections? Or do all of your male friends supplement with testosterone?
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I agree. I believe whole heartedly that majority of women have parental issues and are basket cases with low self esteem. Absolutley!
You know, sometimes we do see eye to eye.
These women who go around giving every dude a bj at a party and on video tape are the same ones who cry foul because they didn't the job, despite the fact they have a MBA, etc.
Are the same women who blame daddy for not loving them and mommy for not saying "No" and putting a foot up her ass.
it's like we are growing a whole nation of whores. Good for the obvious reasons, bad for the long term.
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You know, sometimes we do see eye to eye.
These women who go around giving every dude a bj at a party and on video tape are the same ones who cry foul because they didn't the job, despite the fact they have a MBA, etc.
Are the same women who blame daddy for not loving them and mommy for not saying "No" and putting a foot up her ass.
it's like we are growing a whole nation of whores. Good for the obvious reasons, bad for the long term.
Most women are not running around fellating all the men at parties. And even the ones who do usually don't let themselves get videotaped. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that we're not "growing a whole nation of whores." Some women are more sexually assertive in a post-feminist world, but that doesn't make a "whole nation of whores."
Also, women like men, go through a period of sowing their wild oats. Most women get through that period quicker though, because the clock is ticking.
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Most women are not running around fellating all the men at parties. And even the ones who do usually don't let themselves get videotaped. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that we're not "growing a whole nation of whores." Some women are more sexually assertive in a post-feminist world, but that doesn't make a "whole nation of whores."
Also, women like men, go through a period of sowing their wild oats. Most women get through that period quicker though, because the clock is ticking.
I doubt this is being sexually assertive, Remember we live in the US, not Brazil or Europe. in the US sex is focused on as some big deal to do but never talked about. I have dated said types of women and have delved into their heads. it ain't pretty.
Sowing wild oats...Ha. That I guess is why a lot of married men don't get the sex they want (or need), because their wives are sexually spent (hence more cheating).
Or the reason why women "settle down" (settling for a lower model) because that man will accept the fact that this hot woman was a whore and he won't run away. One of the reaons why women in studies pick the average dude's guy's pictures to marry, but the hot guys pictures to date.
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I doubt this is being sexually assertive, Remember we live in the US, not Brazil or Europe. in the US sex is focused on as some big deal to do but never talked about. I have dated said types of women and have delved into their heads. it ain't pretty.
Sowing wild oats...Ha. That I guess is why a lot of married men don't get the sex they want (or need), because their wives are sexually spent (hence more cheating).
Or the reason why women "settle down" (settling for a lower model) because that man will accept the fact that this hot woman was a whore and he won't run away. One of the reaons why women in studies pick the average dude's guy's pictures to marry, but the hot guys pictures to date.
Wow!!! There's a lot of anger in your post. I'm not saying that you're angry with women, but perhaps with the culture.
yes, in the US, we make a bigger deal about sex. And a lot of women do have issues with their own perceived or real "sluttiness." But I think that you are making a bigger deal about these issues than they really are.
A lot of the issues stem from the fact that a lot of American men are not ready to deal with sexually assertive women. perhaps sexually assertive women undermine certain aspects of the culture that has produced the United States, but the plain fact is that the 60s did happen. Feminism happened, for better or for worse.
Men need to get over their own self-esteem issues/feelings of inadequacy and accept that they are probably not going to wind up with some shrinking violet who is both beautiful and "pure" in the nineteenth century sense of the word.
I believe that there are a variety of reasons why men and women cheat, and low self-esteem is not always the cause.
And women marrying "average" guys doesn't necessarily equate to women settling. Good looking people may be more shallow, irritating, egotistic, or have a greater variety of other issues that make them poor long-term prospects. So maybe the women are just being smart by avoiding them as spouses and choosing people they can actually live with?
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Wow!!! There's a lot of anger in your post. I'm not saying that you're angry with women, but perhaps with the culture.
yes, in the US, we make a bigger deal about sex. And a lot of women do have issues with their own perceived or real "sluttiness." But I think that you are making a bigger deal about these issues than they really are.
A lot of the issues stem from the fact that a lot of American men are not ready to deal with sexually assertive women. perhaps sexually assertive women undermine certain aspects of the culture that has produced the United States, but the plain fact is that the 60s did happen. Feminism happened, for better or for worse.
Men need to get over their own self-esteem issues/feelings of inadequacy and accept that they are probably not going to wind up with some shrinking violet who is both beautiful and "pure" in the nineteenth century sense of the word.
I believe that there are a variety of reasons why men and women cheat, and low self-esteem is not always the cause.
And women marrying "average" guys doesn't necessarily equate to women settling. Good looking people may be more shallow, irritating, egotistic, or have a greater variety of other issues that make them poor long-term prospects. So maybe the women are just being smart by avoiding them as spouses and choosing people they can actually live with?
i'm more angry at the lax standards that men and women have of each other. But yet complain about the other... People who also don't take responsibility of one's actions, but blame "their daddy didn't love me" on the reason why she sleep with 10 guys in 4 days..
Truth be told, I like sexually assertive women. You want it, you get it. But don't as I have seen, expect the "don't judge on my past" type of mentality. Which would you choose a 2007 Mercedes SL with few miles or a 2007 SL with 100K miles? That is the way some times one has to look at it.
just that many of these women are not sexually assertive, a sexually assertive woman doesn't flash breasts and give the middle finger and say" f u man". No, that woman is out of control. The US refuses to talk openly about sexuality, so what women get is what is put on MTV, BET, and VH1.
And most women who sleep around only do it because they that is the only way they get a man to notice them. Giving away peices of themselves, and you see the end results, they are shells of themselves. Sex to many has only becaome a away of obtaining an endorphine high, from one to the other. Instead of looking at it as a "I will blow your mind".
Look at the way Janet Jackson was treated. Poeple made a big stink over a nipple that you could only see if you enhanced the pic (like 100X) than the act of Justin Timberfake ripping the article of clothing off. Why? Well because as one man put it, "i don't want my son asking me questions about, 'what is that'"
I see that it seems that you view women who act like they don't have any home training and act like they have "open" sign on their vags is being sexually assertive, It is not. A sexually assertive women tends to have a certain attitude, it is in her walk, her talk, the way she looks at you. She could be fully covered, but she oozes sensuality (something that many Am. women lack).
That is what I'm saying, many of these women lack sensuality, but they are only imitating what they think will get them a man, and it doesn't.
I don't care about a beautiful and pure woman in the 19th century vernacular, but a woman's virtue (her character) should be questioned and held in high regard, as a man's should. But, character on many a woman's list tends be right down there near "trimmed nose hair".