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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #550 on: March 18, 2014, 03:25:31 PM »
Yeah I remember this. Do you know if anyone's argued against it in any way as an idea?

Every thing I've read says how brilliant that theory is. I haven't seen one argument or critique against it anywhere.

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #551 on: March 18, 2014, 03:30:48 PM »
Uh oh. The gay lover angle.

Not necessarily, no. But anything like that (some level of commitment beyond their obvious shared cause, etc.)

It seems like they may have been related, but looking at it and might post something in a sec.

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #552 on: March 18, 2014, 03:41:55 PM »
Lol, probably a distraction.
How convenient. Dude might even be a spook plant
There is some serious shit going on between big governments behind the scenes imo

Seems to me, if the plane didn't simply run through fuel and sink into a remote site, then we may have big problems waiting to happen.

Honestly, though, my inclination is to say that's what happened. It was deliberately run out of juice and sunk. Against everything else, what seems the most likely? Really, that's the only way I've seen to look at it.

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #553 on: March 18, 2014, 04:32:33 PM »
Seems to me, if the plane didn't simply run through fuel and sink into a remote site, then we may have big problems waiting to happen.

Honestly, though, my inclination is to say that's what happened. It was deliberately run out of juice and sunk. Against everything else, what seems the most likely? Really, that's the only way I've seen to look at it.

Nah, that thing landed somewhere.

How hard is it to find a sinking plane when so many governments are looking.

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #554 on: March 18, 2014, 04:43:10 PM »
Does anyone else feel, like me, that some of these passengers could've been bodybuilders and thus missed their anabolic windows? Is there no justice for those folks?

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #555 on: March 18, 2014, 04:43:35 PM »
The guy that's been jailed is related to the pilot through an in-law channel, for whatever that's worth. The jailed guy (name is Anwar Ibrahim, a politician of sorts) says he's met him "a few times". Originally, he claimed not to recognize the pilot's name.

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #557 on: March 18, 2014, 04:50:19 PM »
Cnn said the battery on the Black box flight recorder is only good for another 19 after that it will stop sending signals , and after that time it may never be found

If its pinging then why cant it be found  ??? ???




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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #558 on: March 18, 2014, 04:51:33 PM »
Nah, that thing landed somewhere.

How hard is it to find a sinking plane when so many governments are looking.

I'm concerned about the false reports of wreckage (that occurred during the early stages of this)[

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #559 on: March 18, 2014, 05:04:20 PM »
Yeah, about the pinging. Does anyone here know anything about that technology?

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #561 on: March 18, 2014, 05:18:48 PM »
Yeah, about the pinging. Does anyone here know anything about that technology?

The device is known as an underwater locator beacon, and it's attached to the black box, and sometimes they are mounted on the airplanes fuselage too.
If a plane crashes into the water, this beacon sends out an ultrasonic pulse that cannot be heard by human ears but is readily detectable by sonar and acoustical locating equipment. There is a submergence sensor on the side of the beacon that looks like a bull's-eye. When water touches this sensor, it activates the beacon.
The beacon sends out pulses at 37.5 kilohertz (kHz) and can transmit sound as deep as 14,000 feet (4,267 m). Once the beacon begins "pinging," it pings once per second for 30 days.

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #562 on: March 18, 2014, 05:19:41 PM »
Cnn said the battery on the Black box flight recorder is only good for another 19 after that it will stop sending signals , and after that time it may never be found

If its pinging then why cant it be found  ??? ???




Because we don't want it found.

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #563 on: March 18, 2014, 05:27:07 PM »
The device is known as an underwater locator beacon, and it's attached to the black box, and sometimes they are mounted on the airplanes fuselage too.
If a plane crashes into the water, this beacon sends out an ultrasonic pulse that cannot be heard by human ears but is readily detectable by sonar and acoustical locating equipment. There is a submergence sensor on the side of the beacon that looks like a bull's-eye. When water touches this sensor, it activates the beacon.
The beacon sends out pulses at 37.5 kilohertz (kHz) and can transmit sound as deep as 14,000 feet (4,267 m). Once the beacon begins "pinging," it pings once per second for 30 days.

Something separate from the ping device that is maintenance related, obviously.

What do you know about all possible devices that would ping (other than what we know to have been disabled)?

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #564 on: March 18, 2014, 05:31:15 PM »
..obviously the device Nails is talking about shouldn't have been pinging unless the plane was sunk, right? ("19 days left", and it has now been 11 days since the disappearance)

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #565 on: March 18, 2014, 05:35:50 PM »
They are talking about audibly pinging. Sound waves that can be detected by naval hydrophones. 

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #566 on: March 18, 2014, 05:38:30 PM »
They are talking about audibly pinging. Sound waves that can be detected by naval hydrophones. 

...but in a device that is water-activated, right? That's what I'm missing.

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #567 on: March 18, 2014, 05:50:53 PM »
...but in a device that is water-activated, right? That's what I'm missing.

The underwater locater beacons only start pinging when they come into contact with water. Different countries have different regulations regarding their use. Some countries require locater beacons to be attached to the airplane fuselage as well as to the black box.

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #568 on: March 18, 2014, 05:55:25 PM »
The underwater locater beacons only start pinging when they come into contact with water. Different countries have different regulations regarding their use. Some countries require locater beacons to be attached to the airplane fuselage as well as to the black box.

So what the hell is CNN talking about? (from Nails post above)

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #569 on: March 18, 2014, 06:07:07 PM »
Nails, can you post that article

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #570 on: March 18, 2014, 06:11:17 PM »
Nails, can you post that article

Its the first video

Cnn.com

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #571 on: March 18, 2014, 06:16:42 PM »
Could have either of the pilots removed the black box before take off? Is that even possible?

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #572 on: March 18, 2014, 06:26:35 PM »
Wasn't this flight mainly filled with chinks and chinamen? Aren't they replaceable like robots? There's like 2 big Bills of them..

Not sure what the big deal is... bigger fish to fry IMO..

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #573 on: March 18, 2014, 06:29:40 PM »
Wasn't this flight mainly filled with chinks and chinamen? Aren't they replaceable like robots? There's like 2 big Bills of them..

Not sure what the big deal is... bigger fish to fry IMO..

no use crying over a couple spilled chinamen

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Re: Malaysian Airlines flight is missing, 239 passengers on board
« Reply #574 on: March 18, 2014, 06:32:09 PM »
They must have switched content. There's a video now that talks about how easy it would be to change navigation on the fly (watched it through and they didn't mention the pinging). Sometimes they'll put something up that's just so dumb they have to reverse it.