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Actually, he died after ingesting fentanyl-laced pills.
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https://news.sky.com/story/robert-de-niros-grandson-leandro-died-after-being-sold-fentanyl-laced-pills-his-mother-says-12916518
But later replying to an Instagram comment asking how her son had died, the 51-year-old wrote: "Someone sold him fentanyl laced pills that they knew were laced yet still sold them to him.
"So for all these people still f****** around selling and buying this s***, my son is gone forever."
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19? That's really sad. Whole life ahead of him and just gone. That fentanyl shit over in the states is a real problem. For some reason I don't think the UK drug market has had any big fentanyl stories.
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Don't take it
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Just say No.
One less DeNiro in the world is not an awful thing.
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Robert DeNiro, his family, friends, and acquaintances can all fuck off and die.
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Robert DeNiro, his family, friends, and acquaintances can all fuck off and die.
*SNIF* *SNIF* This really tied the thread together, man.... ;D
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Bob "open borders" DeNiro ... ? That one?
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Robert DeNiro, his family, friends, and acquaintances can all fuck off and die.
Felt like I was writing that when I read it.
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Deniro loves the purp pussy.
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Bob "open borders" DeNiro ... ? That one?
I didn't know that was his particular "cause."
Ironic
The Fentanyl problem is as bad as it is because it is being trafficked up from Mexico, no doubt benefitung from dumb fuck libs like Bob Deniro who advocate for open borders.
Dumb ass. You try an tell em but libs are so smug they just won't listen to reason.
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Like I say over and over, you fuck around like a retard (in this case, using rec drugs), you find out.
As far as DeNerdo, yeah, major fuck that guy. Another useless, destructive Lib.
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I`m sure Bob would send flowers and attend my funeral if I was the dumb fuck using drugs and dying.
Thanks Bob..........you prick!!
RIP to the kid though.....young and dumb.
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Like I say over and over, you fuck around like a retard (in this case, using rec drugs), you find out.
As far as DeNerdo, yeah, major fuck that guy. Another useless, destructive Lib.
Yep.
He made good movies for a long time. Possibly because he was Martin Scorsese's #1 actor before he moved on to Leonardo DiCaprio.
Although I almost never watch new movies anymore due to the inclusion of the destructive lib politics you mentioned, has De Niro even made anything good in the past 20 years?
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Seemed like he had multiple big hits in the 1990's [again - his Martin Scorsese pictures], but nothing since that time.
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I`m sure Bob would send flowers and attend my funeral if I was the dumb fuck using drugs and dying.
Thanks Bob..........you prick!!
RIP to the kid though.....young and dumb.
That's true, wes - but since you managed to kick your 52-year smoking habit cold turkey, your funeral won't be for a while.
Speaking of which - I should thank you:
I was smoking cigarettes myself - albeit very midly - from July 2018 to July 2022.
For 28 out of those 48 months, I smoked less than one cigarette a day. And I still found it hard to quit.
But when quitting made your tumor disappear...I realized that we can quit, and after some time passes, it's like we never even smoked at all.
Which happened to you - which is great news.
With opioids...the main problem is: people die. It's not like they cause systemic damage over time like cigarettes or alcohol...you just die. As happened with De Niro's grandson here.
But as you have shown, you can quit something and basically make a full recovery. People should look to your example, and quit and recover before it's too late.
You should be very proud of yourself, wes. Not everyone can quit smoking, cold turkey - in fact, most can't!
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More blood on Biden’s hands. Granted, kid was stupid enough to take something he ASSUMED wasn’t laced but this is the new norm now since the borders are open and nothing done about the Cartels except for letting them in at will. Nazi Germany has nothing on Biden and Fauci.
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More blood on Biden’s hands. Granted, kid was stupid enough to take something he ASSUMED wasn’t laced but this is the new norm now since the borders are open and nothing done about the Cartels except for letting them in at will. Nazi Germany has nothing on Biden and Fauci.
How many executive orders did Joe Biden sign as soon as he got into office, reversing all the border protections put in place by Trump [or even Obama, for that matter]?
Whatever it was, it was record-breaking for a POTUS.
And now you have this flood of toxic drugs coming in from Mexico. Maybe Hunter Biden will die from fentanyl-laced cocaine, and Joe Biden will change his view on this.
Is there any other reason why this could be happening?
Are the Chinese purposely trying to kill Americans / people in the West?
What's driving this? Could there be some grander agenda at play than just drug cartels making money?
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Are we sure this isn’t a false flag event to garner more attention/sympathy?
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That's true, wes - but since you managed to kick your 52-year smoking habit cold turkey, your funeral won't be for a while.
Speaking of which - I should thank you:
I was smoking cigarettes myself - albeit very midly - from July 2018 to July 2022.
For 28 out of those 48 months, I smoked less than one cigarette a day. And I still found it hard to quit.
But when quitting made your tumor disappear...I realized that we can quit, and after some time passes, it's like we never even smoked at all.
Which happened to you - which is great news.
With opioids...the main problem is: people die. It's not like they cause systemic damage over time like cigarettes or alcohol...you just die. As happened with De Niro's grandson here.
But as you have shown, you can quit something and basically make a full recovery. People should look to your example, and quit and recover before it's too late.
You should be very proud of yourself, wes. Not everyone can quit smoking, cold turkey - in fact, most can't!
Thanks Matt....I also quit 33 years of drinking on and off and intermittant drug us ....(no applause needed it was a no-braner to quit, and I was stupid enough to start as it was)...that`s why I felt bad for Deniros nephew (fuck Bob though) as he was young and we all make mistakes and at times use bad judgement......especiall y when young.
Good on you for cutting waaaaay back like that.......all things in moderation,except pussy of course!! ;D
A nurse at my Pulmonologists office told me she knows people who quit 30 years ago that still crave cigarettes daily......worst habit ever IMO.
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Thanks Matt....I also quit 33 years of drinking on and off and intermittant drug us ....(no applause needed it was a no-braner to quit, and I was stupid enough to start as it was)...that`s why I felt bad for Deniros nephew (fuck Bob though) as he was young and we all make mistakes and at times use bad judgement......especiall y when young.
Good on you for cutting waaaaay back like that.......all things in moderation,except pussy of course!! ;D
A nurse at my Pulmonologists office told me she knows people who quit 30 years ago that still crave cigarettes daily......worst habit ever IMO.
A relative quit and he said he would have dreams at night about smoking cigs.
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I don't know if it's true but some say smokers have been told how hard it is to quit so much that many don't even try and many would in fact find it wasn't actually that hard. People are self sabotaging even before they try. I've known several people who claimed it wasn't hard at all even after decades of smoking.
Some have cravings decades after but what is also common is ex-smokers saying how disgusting smoking is, how disgusting it smells, everything is bad about it, they really really hate it. Other ex-smokers still take a cig when offered if drunk. Probably your mind/brain wants to drive dopamine even higher.
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I don't know if it's true but some say smokers have been told how hard it is to quit so much that many don't even try and many would in fact find it wasn't actually that hard. People are self sabotaging even before they try. I've known several people who claimed it wasn't hard at all even after decades of smoking.
Some have cravings decades after but what is also common is ex-smokers saying how disgusting smoking is, how disgusting it smells, everything is bad about it, they really really hate it. Other ex-smokers still take a cig when offered if drunk. Probably your mind/brain wants to drive dopamine even higher.
I worked with a guy who hadn't smoked in 15 years who said everytime he got in the car after work he reached into his jacket pocket for a phantom pack of cigs. Addiction is behavioral as well as biological.
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A relative quit and he said he would have dreams at night about smoking cigs.
I believe it.
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I quit smoking like ten years ago and still think about it once a day.
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It is safe to assume all underground opiates have fentanyl in them at this point no different than overdosing on anything else the kid knew there was fentanyl in the pill he just took too much. It is time to stop calling it laced that is a standard non prescription opiod pill nowdays
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It is safe to assume all underground opiates have fentanyl in them at this point no different than overdosing on anything else the kid knew there was fentanyl in the pill he just took too much. It is time to stop calling it laced that is a standard non prescription opiod pill nowdays
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It is safe to assume all underground opiates have fentanyl in them at this point no different than overdosing on anything else the kid knew there was fentanyl in the pill he just took too much. It is time to stop calling it laced that is a standard non prescription opiod pill nowdays
Of course, the pill head Brian can rationalize the use of rec drugs
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Typical insane (and butt ugly) libturd. Blaming the drug-seller for her braindead kids death.
Not the actual kvnt who bought and swallowed them. ::) ::) ::)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/07/06/leandro-de-niro-rodriguez-fentanyl-cause-of-death-report/70386773007/
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It is safe to assume all underground opiates have fentanyl in them at this point no different than overdosing on anything else the kid knew there was fentanyl in the pill he just took too much. It is time to stop calling it laced that is a standard non prescription opiod pill nowdays
Why do you assume the kid knew? Maybe he trusted his maid to have pure product.
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"...was sold" such a poor, innocent victim ::)
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Is he still against Trump?
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It wasn’t his son. It was some type of ghoulish tranny creature. And it was not an OD. It was suicide.
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Typical insane (and butt ugly) libturd. Blaming the drug-seller for her braindead kids death.
Not the actual kvnt who bought and swallowed them. ::) ::) ::)
https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/celebrities/2023/07/06/leandro-de-niro-rodriguez-fentanyl-cause-of-death-report/70386773007/
If the drug dealer knowingly lied and misled this guy, I think it’s reasonable to blame them at least in part. That’s a big “if” though.
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If the drug dealer knowingly lied and misled this guy, I think it’s reasonable to blame them at least in part. That’s a big “if” though.
Assisted suicide?
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If the drug dealer knowingly lied and misled this guy, I think it’s reasonable to blame them at least in part. That’s a big “if” though.
Do you know many drug dealers who are doing quality control inspections on their products? And if so who certifies the inspection?
Thanks!
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Do you know many drug dealers who are doing quality control inspections on their products? And if so who certifies the inspection?
Thanks!
IMO, if the dealer made it a point to say that the pills were fentanyl-containing fakes, then it's just a "Let the Buyer Beware" thing.
If he lied or otherwise misled De Niro's grandson into thinking the pills were real, then I'd say the dealer was in part responsible for the death. Unless he himself didn't know.
At some level of distribution, it should be stated that the pills are fake, IMO. It's one thing to sell drugs - but deceiving the client is another matter.
Example: my PED dealer told me that the Sustanon I just got for my 2nd Annual Summer Cycle was very "prop-heavy", causing pain at the injection site. He offered me a refund, but I was fine with it, providing it was effective/real gear.
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean we can't attempt to be moral in it.
Also, on this topic - it's a bit of a long read, but check out the portion here under the section "Death":
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Belushi
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Do you know many drug dealers who are doing quality control inspections on their products? And if so who certifies the inspection?
Thanks!
This ^^
Dont buy and ingest Opiod pills, Dont blame others for your own doings.
Everything today is cut with Fentanyl, so expect it and take ownership...
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Only buy from moral and ethical drug dealers.
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Do you know many drug dealers who are doing quality control inspections on their products? And if so who certifies the inspection?
Thanks!
Sure, I know people who test their pills before buying en masse and reselling.
If you buy a nutritional supplement and the company knowingly cut it with a harmful substance, are they to blame for any negative consequences? Or does the responsibility to test & perform other due diligence lie solely with the end consumer?
The nutritional supplement company is entirely unregulated in the US, mind you.
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IMO, if the dealer made it a point to say that the pills were fentanyl-containing fakes, then it's just a "Let the Buyer Beware" thing.
If he lied or otherwise misled De Niro's grandson into thinking the pills were real, then I'd say the dealer was in part responsible for the death. Unless he himself didn't know.
At some level of distribution, it should be stated that the pills are fake, IMO. It's one thing to sell drugs - but deceiving the client is another matter.
Example: my PED dealer told me that the Sustanon I just got for my 2nd Annual Summer Cycle was very "prop-heavy", causing pain at the injection site. He offered me a refund, but I was fine with it, providing it was effective/real gear.
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean we can't attempt to be moral in it.
Also, on this topic - it's a bit of a long read, but check out the portion here under the section "Death":
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Belushi
Agreed. In my mind, there’s a big difference between unknowingly selling some fentanyl-laced drug vs knowingly manufacturing and selling some fentanyl-laced drugs as clean and legit. The law doesn’t agree, but that’s just part of our draconian legal system.
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If the drug dealer knowingly lied and misled this guy, I think it’s reasonable to blame them at least in part. That’s a big “if” though.
If there is one thing drug dealers are known for, it is scrupulous honesty.
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If there is one thing drug dealers are known for, it is scrupulous honesty.
Just like Oaks gang-bangers w/ their illegal guns.
They pay attention to "give back" programs and always turn in their illegal weapons... ::)
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IMO, if the dealer made it a point to say that the pills were fentanyl-containing fakes, then it's just a "Let the Buyer Beware" thing.
If he lied or otherwise misled De Niro's grandson into thinking the pills were real, then I'd say the dealer was in part responsible for the death. Unless he himself didn't know.
At some level of distribution, it should be stated that the pills are fake, IMO. It's one thing to sell drugs - but deceiving the client is another matter.
Example: my PED dealer told me that the Sustanon I just got for my 2nd Annual Summer Cycle was very "prop-heavy", causing pain at the injection site. He offered me a refund, but I was fine with it, providing it was effective/real gear.
Just because something is illegal doesn't mean we can't attempt to be moral in it.
Also, on this topic - it's a bit of a long read, but check out the portion here under the section "Death":
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Belushi
So you think if he knew the illegal pills were laced with fentanyl the dealer has a responsibility in the death BUT if he didn’t know the illegal pills he was selling were tainted he’s also a victim?
What if the kid just OD on the regular drug? Who’s at fault then?
maybe this problem would be eliminated if drug dealers listed the ingredients like we have with supplements?
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Sure, I know people who test their pills before buying en masse and reselling.
If you buy a nutritional supplement and the company knowingly cut it with a harmful substance, are they to blame for any negative consequences? Or does the responsibility to test & perform other due diligence lie solely with the end consumer?
The nutritional supplement company is entirely unregulated in the US, mind you.
This is an apples and oranges comparison though.
The supplement industry isn’t completely unregulated, if it were PJ Braun would still be posting here. If it were completely unregulated all of the pro hormones from the 2000’s would still be legal. If it were completely unregulated why wouldnt drug dealers sell their drugs as sports supplements?
There rules and laws to what you sell and if leads to death companies are or can be held liable and their product is discontinued. When people sell illegal drugs it’s not uncommon to hold the drug dealer responsible for a death.
Good business practice would be your customer lives and continues to buy your products. I’m glad you have reputable drug dealers in your life, you should post their information so people have safe access to these products. By your reasoning if you’re withholding this information for safe products you hear some liability in future deaths.
maybe De Niro’s grandson should have researched his distributor more? Or maybe he could have researched the dangers of fentanyl? Or maybe he did and he had a bad reaction that lead to his death.
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A relative quit and he said he would have dreams at night about smoking cigs.
Maybe what he meant to say was he had dreams at night about smoking cocks, but was embarrassed to say it
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Only buy from moral and ethical drug dealers.
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I always look the Pablo Escobar seal of approval.
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I always look the Pablo Escobar seal of approval.
I call the Better Business Bureau and check Yelp.
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Maybe if buying underground products instead of snorting 3 pills the minute you get them or injecting 3cc out of an underground bathroom try half a pill or 1/2cc first and make sure you don’t have a bad reaction.
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Maybe if buying underground products instead of snorting 3 pills the minute you get them or injecting 3cc out of an underground bathroom try half a pill or 1/2cc first and make sure you don’t have a bad reaction.
I’m guessing this is from experience.
Mdma is nasty right Bhanky?
Drug addict
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Maybe if buying underground products instead of snorting 3 pills the minute you get them or injecting 3cc out of an underground bathroom try half a pill or 1/2cc first and make sure you don’t have a bad reaction.
says the guy who almost killed himself with lasix because strangers on the internet laughed at his legs
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Maybe if buying underground products instead of snorting 3 pills the minute you get them or injecting 3cc out of an underground bathroom try half a pill or 1/2cc first and make sure you don’t have a bad reaction.
I agree. You should always try half the Adderall pill just in case the maid's supply is impure.
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Maybe if buying underground products instead of snorting 3 pills the minute you get them or injecting 3cc out of an underground bathroom try half a pill or 1/2cc first and make sure you don’t have a bad reaction.
Good illegal drug practices from the board drug addict.
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Maybe if buying underground products instead of snorting 3 pills the minute you get them or injecting 3cc out of an underground bathroom try half a pill or 1/2cc first and make sure you don’t have a bad reaction.
Are you using fentanyl? You need to up the dose.
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Maybe if buying underground products instead of snorting 3 pills the minute you get them or injecting 3cc out of an underground bathroom try half a pill or 1/2cc first and make sure you don’t have a bad reaction.
(https://i.postimg.cc/qBPRRJqW/the-best-joe-rogan-podcast-comedian-guests.jpg).
"Let me tell you something Joe Rogan. Years ago on the East Coast I knew this guy, Brian Higgins, Bram Harkins, something like that. Greatest pill tester you ever saw Joe Rogan. He'd sit there for hours just testing things, snorting them, shooting them. Boy, he'd sit there till his ass bled, the guy just couldn't be faded Joe. This fucking guy was a junkie's junkie, get this, I think he married a drug court attorney."
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Agreed. In my mind, there’s a big difference between unknowingly selling some fentanyl-laced drug vs knowingly manufacturing and selling some fentanyl-laced drugs as clean and legit. The law doesn’t agree, but that’s just part of our draconian legal system.
I think this is an important distinction.
Like when I bought my gear last month, I knew it was underground gear. I knew the risks. Neither myself nor the person who sold them to me knew that the gear was prop-heavy until multiple people reported pain at the injection site.
I guess it's hard to find good chemists.
This is Sustanon 250 I'm using, but I'm only 750mg in so far, so I haven't started a new cycle thread.
IMO, the chemist probably knew using more prop could cause this problem, but took his chances.
I have no hard feelings. I was offered a refund, but said no.
I would argue that the dealer shouldn't sell anything as real unless he is pretty damn sure.
So I could also argue:
If De Niro's grandson Leandro's dealer felt there was ANY chance there was Fentanyl in the pills...he should have passed that information in to Leandro.
IMO, the ONLY way to know for sure you're getting real opiates is if you buy straight from a person's prescription.
So if the dealer wasn't doing that, it should have been made known to Leandro that he wasn't 100% certain it was a legit opiate, and that there is some chance it contains Fentanyl.
If the dealer knew and purposely said nothing, I would say Leandro's dealer was accountable in his death, to some extent.
If the dealer had no idea, I would feel he is not as responsible, HOWEVER - I would also argue that dealers are responsible for sourcing out actual drugs that are what they say - and not laced with other drugs that can literally kill them on the spot, in a way not unexpected.
Sure, you can die from Vicodin [I think Vicodine contains 10mg Hydrocodone + 300mg Acetaminophen - which is a actually more organ toxic than the actual opiates/opioids alone, funnily enough] - but you'd have to take a LOT.
You would actually be around the toxic level of Tylenol [Acetaminophen] from the Vicodin by the time you reach the overdose level of Hydrocodone.
Meanwhile, didn't it only take three fentanyl-laced Vicodin pills to kill Prince? Something like that.
I'm rambling, but my main points are:
[1] Dealers have some ethical responsibility to source out drugs that won't make people drop dead, unless used in a way that the normal drug would make them drop dead. No one expects to die taking three Vicodone pills [they don't have these in Canada], so producing fakes that DO kill people taking three is immoral UNLESS that information is passed on to the consumer.
[2] I think it's worse if the dealer knew the pills were laced and didn't pass that information to Leandro, as opposed to not knowing and not saying...HOWEVER...I still feel dealers should put some effort into ensuring they aren't selling toxic poison.
And another point: [3] Gym Rat [and I believe B. Hank said this too] is correct that almost EVERY opiate - every drug, period, even street marijuana sold after hours - contains / may contain Fentanyl. So as time goes on, the user simply has to understand and accept this.
Heck - AN ENTIRE MOVIE WAS MADE ABOUT THIS IN 2019!
Sorry for rambling - toxic drugs are a HUGE problem in my city. As is Fentanyl - Fentanyl killed my friend's half-brother in 2021, and a friend I had a falling-out with over the fake pandemic, who died last year. And many, many others here.
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So you think if he knew the illegal pills were laced with fentanyl the dealer has a responsibility in the death BUT if he didn’t know the illegal pills he was selling were tainted he’s also a victim?
What if the kid just OD on the regular drug? Who’s at fault then?
maybe this problem would be eliminated if drug dealers listed the ingredients like we have with supplements?
Good questions, Dave. I'll give my opinions on them below, individually - just my opinions:
So you think if he knew the illegal pills were laced with fentanyl the dealer has a responsibility in the death
Yes.
If the dealer sold Leandro De Niro Rodroguez 10 legit Vicodin pills, produced by a pharmaceutical corporation - maybe enough to kill someone with no opiate tolerance, Leandro would have known that 10 Vicodin pills wouldn't kill him, if he had a tolerance to them.
If the dealer sold Leandro 10 Vicodin pills with Fentanyl, which would only require three to kill Leandro, AND the dealer was aware that they contained Fentanyl, IMO, he had a responsibility to pass that information on. Then Leandro could have taken precautions - such as only taken the pills in the presence of a friend with a Narcan/naloxone kit.
BUT if he didn’t know the illegal pills he was selling were tainted he’s also a victim?
I can answer that according to the law, and in my opinion:
[1] As ProudVirgin69 said, the dealer can be held responsible under our legal system. Being a high profile case, they will likely track down the dealer using Leandro's cellphone. Even if text messages show that the dealer explicitly told Leandro that these pills are fake / contain Fentanyl, he will probably still be held accountable and go to jail. But I think it will help his case if he warned Leandro of the possibility.
[2] In MY OPINION, the dealer is responsible for selling what he is purporting to be selling. That being said, I find it slightly more forgivable if the dealer himself was sold fake pills as real ones, say from a trusted source that he had no reason to question. I think it IS the dealer's responsibility to either source out real drugs, or at least pass on the information that the drugs can be ineffective...or even toxic. I would probably argue that dealers should close up shop if they can't find drugs to sell that aren't literally deadly. But it's just so common these days, that that they not be possible. But again, to answer your question, IMO: a dealer who was not aware or informed about the Fentanyl in the pills is not as responsible as one who knew but did not say.
But keep in mind the average dealer is himself some drug abusing loser, so we can't really expect a lot of intelligence or safe raw ingredients sourcing from these people.
What if the kid just OD on the regular drug? Who’s at fault then?
If someone buys a drug that they know will kill them if they use enough of it / or use it in a certain way [intravenously, or combined with other drugs], that's not the dealer's fault.
If I choose to do a Dallas McCarver gear death cycle, and my PED dealer gives me all high-quality gear, even with Pharma grade gear as often as possible...is that his fault I died?
But if he gave me Sustanon that had some non-standard ingredient in it that was not disclosed to me, and I drop dead after one properly injected shot of a correct amount...wouldn't he be somewhat responsible? But especially so if he KNEW that I could die, but didn't inform me of that possibility?
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Now - THAT BEING SAID...we are dealing with ILLEGAL DRUGS HERE. So even though I do think moral drug dealers have a responsibility to sell what they purport to sell, at the end of the day, ANYONE buying drugs is naive to fully trust their dealer. Especially in the current climate of Chinese Fentanyl being sold to Mexican drug cartels and spreading ALL OVER North America.
At the end of the day, it is the individual user's responsibility to acquire a drug testing kit if they want to be absolutely certain that their drugs are clean.
I'm merely saying that ethical dealers should not be selling poisonous, toxic drugs.
maybe this problem would be eliminated if drug dealers listed the ingredients like we have with supplements?
;D ;D ;D
Dealers and users alike should invest in drug testing kits.
Alternatively: raise awareness that Fentanyl is now being found in EVERYTHING. The more people who know, [hopefully] the more these deaths can be prevented.
Fentanyl is almost ubiquitous now. This information needs to be spread, among those who use street drugs.
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From my city:
Of all cocaine samples tested onsite, just 11 per cent contained only cocaine, 33 per cent contained cocaine and phenacetin, a pharmaceutical compound, and a whopping 55 per cent did not contain cocaine at all.
So...55% of cocaine in my city contains 0% contain? ???
WTF is going on? So what exactly are users actually using? ???
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-news/drug-warning-issued-6609294
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Another one. Literally hot off the press - from four hours ago:
THUNDER BAY — An alert has been issued to the community about contaminated drugs after several overdoses occurred at a local overdose prevention service.
According to a social media post by NorWest Community Health Centres, there were three cases on Monday at its Path525 safe injection site.
All three people were okay after receiving help from centre staff.
https://www.tbnewswatch.com/local-news/drug-overdose-warning-issued-7261647
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(https://i.postimg.cc/qBPRRJqW/the-best-joe-rogan-podcast-comedian-guests.jpg).
"Let me tell you something Joe Rogan. Years ago on the East Coast I knew this guy, Brian Higgins, Bram Harkins, something like that. Greatest pill tester you ever saw Joe Rogan. He'd sit there for hours just testing things, snorting them, shooting them. Boy, he'd sit there till his ass bled, the guy just couldn't be faded Joe. This fucking guy was a junkie's junkie, get this, I think he married a drug court attorney."
10/10
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(https://i.postimg.cc/qBPRRJqW/the-best-joe-rogan-podcast-comedian-guests.jpg).
"Let me tell you something Joe Rogan. Years ago on the East Coast I knew this guy, Brian Higgins, Bram Harkins, something like that. Greatest pill tester you ever saw Joe Rogan. He'd sit there for hours just testing things, snorting them, shooting them. Boy, he'd sit there till his ass bled, the guy just couldn't be faded Joe. This fucking guy was a junkie's junkie, get this, I think he married a drug court attorney."
Given that Joey Diaz is 60 years old and pretty hefty in size...I'm sort of surprised he is still alive.
He has outlined quite an extensive drug history.
Has he put all this debauchery behind him?
I know he did say that he quit Xanax.
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Good questions, Dave. I'll give my opinions on them below, individually - just my opinions:
Yes.
If the dealer sold Leandro De Niro Rodroguez 10 legit Vicodin pills, produced by a pharmaceutical corporation - maybe enough to kill someone with no opiate tolerance, Leandro would have known that 10 Vicodin pills wouldn't kill him, if he had a tolerance to them.
If the dealer sold Leandro 10 Vicodin pills with Fentanyl, which would only require three to kill Leandro, AND the dealer was aware that they contained Fentanyl, IMO, he had a responsibility to pass that information on. Then Leandro could have taken precautions - such as only taken the pills in the presence of a friend with a Narcan/naloxone kit.
I can answer that according to the law, and in my opinion:
[1] As ProudVirgin69 said, the dealer can be held responsible under our legal system. Being a high profile case, they will likely track down the dealer using Leandro's cellphone. Even if text messages show that the dealer explicitly told Leandro that these pills are fake / contain Fentanyl, he will probably still be held accountable and go to jail. But I think it will help his case if he warned Leandro of the possibility.
[2] In MY OPINION, the dealer is responsible for selling what he is purporting to be selling. That being said, I find it slightly more forgivable if the dealer himself was sold fake pills as real ones, say from a trusted source that he had no reason to question. I think it IS the dealer's responsibility to either source out real drugs, or at least pass on the information that the drugs can be ineffective...or even toxic. I would probably argue that dealers should close up shop if they can't find drugs to sell that aren't literally deadly. But it's just so common these days, that that they not be possible. But again, to answer your question, IMO: a dealer who was not aware or informed about the Fentanyl in the pills is not as responsible as one who knew but did not say.
But keep in mind the average dealer is himself some drug abusing loser, so we can't really expect a lot of intelligence or safe raw ingredients sourcing from these people.
If someone buys a drug that they know will kill them if they use enough of it / or use it in a certain way [intravenously, or combined with other drugs], that's not the dealer's fault.
If I choose to do a Dallas McCarver gear death cycle, and my PED dealer gives me all high-quality gear, even with Pharma grade gear as often as possible...is that his fault I died?
But if he gave me Sustanon that had some non-standard ingredient in it that was not disclosed to me, and I drop dead after one properly injected shot of a correct amount...wouldn't he be somewhat responsible? But especially so if he KNEW that I could die, but didn't inform me of that possibility?
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Now - THAT BEING SAID...we are dealing with ILLEGAL DRUGS HERE. So even though I do think moral drug dealers have a responsibility to sell what they purport to sell, at the end of the day, ANYONE buying drugs is naive to fully trust their dealer. Especially in the current climate of Chinese Fentanyl being sold to Mexican drug cartels and spreading ALL OVER North America.
At the end of the day, it is the individual user's responsibility to acquire a drug testing kit if they want to be absolutely certain that their drugs are clean.
I'm merely saying that ethical dealers should not be selling poisonous, toxic drugs.
;D ;D ;D
Dealers and users alike should invest in drug testing kits.
Alternatively: raise awareness that Fentanyl is now being found in EVERYTHING. The more people who know, [hopefully] the more these deaths can be prevented.
Fentanyl is almost ubiquitous now. This information needs to be spread, among those who use street drugs.
Matt I know you put a lot of thought into this. I hope you always have ethical illegal drug dealers with a moral compass. They people I know who were involved with drug sales did not care what happened to the people who bought from them; they viewed them as junkies.
Here’s the thing though, drug dealers are prosecuted if they sell drugs that end up killing people.
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Matt I know you put a lot of thought into this. I hope you always have ethical illegal drug dealers with a moral compass. They people I know who were involved with drug sales did not care what happened to the people who bought from them; they viewed them as junkies.
Here’s the thing though, drug dealers are prosecuted if they sell drugs that end up killing people.
I get that.
A lot of the dealers are junkies themselves, as far as I can tell. Maybe less so for the higher volume dealers, higher up the chain.
Why dealers wishing to make money would deceive or even kill their clientele...I don't know. I think it makes more sense for dealers to sell drugs that contain what they are supposed to, and don't kill people in an unexpected way. But I also don't think it's reasonable for users to expect that. This IS the black market, after all.
In the case of Prince, I think he died from Fentanyl-laced Vicodin pills [correct me if I'm wrong], but they couldn't find the dealer because Prince didn't own a cellphone.
Prince's doctor got fined for writing a prescription of Percocet [I think] to Prince's friend, because Prince didn't want it on his medical record.
But Prince would have qualified for a Percocet Rx, so his doctor didn't get in too much trouble [unlike Michael Jackson's doctor]. All he did was wrote the Rx to a friend of Prince, with all three parties consenting.
Even though a lot of people die from contaminated [Fentanyl-containing] drugs, there are not a lot of prosecutions over these deaths.
But given that this particular case involves the death of Robert De Niro's grandson, and especially given how young he was, this case may end up being prosecuted.
I find they selectively prosecute some of the higher profile cases.
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I get that.
A lot of the dealers are junkies themselves, as far as I can tell. Maybe less so for the higher volume dealers, higher up the chain.
Why dealers wishing to make money would deceive or even kill their clientele...I don't know. I think it makes more sense for dealers to sell drugs that contain what they are supposed to, and don't kill people in an unexpected way. But I also don't think it's reasonable for users to expect that. This IS the black market, after all.
In the case of Prince, I think he died from Fentanyl-laced Vicodin pills [correct me if I'm wrong], but they couldn't find the dealer because Prince didn't own a cellphone.
Prince's doctor got fined for writing a prescription of Percocet [I think] to Prince's friend, because Prince didn't want it on his medical record.
But Prince would have qualified for a Percocet Rx, so his doctor didn't get in too much trouble [unlike Michael Jackson's doctor]. All he did was wrote the Rx to a friend of Prince, with all three parties consenting.
Even though a lot of people die from contaminated [Fentanyl-containing] drugs, there are not a lot of prosecutions over these deaths.
But given that this particular case involves the death of Robert De Niro's grandson, and especially given how young he was, this case may end up being prosecuted.
I find they selectively prosecute some of the higher profile cases.
Matt people who sell illegal ”products” be drugs, weapons, or an extra set of speakers from a job they just finished, do not care about you or any “customer”. They do not have your best interests in mind.
These people care less about you than a corporation does. Even though they may know your name they aren’t running a family business.
They want your money. And if you’re dead and can’t buy they will sell their wares to someone else.
That said I hope you’re interacting with good people.
The sooner you can grasp that concept the better off you’ll be.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/qBPRRJqW/the-best-joe-rogan-podcast-comedian-guests.jpg).
"Let me tell you something Joe Rogan. Years ago on the East Coast I knew this guy, Brian Higgins, Bram Harkins, something like that. Greatest pill tester you ever saw Joe Rogan. He'd sit there for hours just testing things, snorting them, shooting them. Boy, he'd sit there till his ass bled, the guy just couldn't be faded Joe. This fucking guy was a junkie's junkie, get this, I think he married a drug court attorney."
A true goddamn masterpiece.
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Matt I don't think there are "ethical" drug dealers. They might have some sense of morals in other aspects of their lives, but I doubt they'd give a second thought to violating their own morals to sell more drugs or cut costs.
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Matt I don't think there are "ethical" drug dealers. They might have some sense of morals in other aspects of their lives, but I doubt they'd give a second thought to violating their own morals to sell more drugs or cut costs.
You don't think any ethical drug dealers exist anywhere? As in, zero?
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Matt people who sell illegal ”products” be drugs, weapons, or an extra set of speakers from a job they just finished, do not care about you or any “customer”. They do not have your best interests in mind.
These people care less about you than a corporation does. Even though they may know your name they aren’t running a family business.
They want your money. And if you’re dead and can’t buy they will sell their wares to someone else.
That said I hope you’re interacting with good people.
The sooner you can grasp that concept the better off you’ll be.
Correct.
They don't care about people.
But they so care about money...right?
Can they make money by killing their clientele?
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You don't think any ethical drug dealers exist anywhere? As in, zero?
I think 0.45% of drug dealers are ethical.
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You don't think any ethical drug dealers exist anywhere? As in, zero?
Correct.
They don't care about people.
But they so care about money...right?
Can they make money by killing their clientele?
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Do you think your steroid dealer is the same type of person as a crack dealer?
We should ask big tobacco how they feel about taking care of their customers.
Do you think the average drug dealer has a business plan for development and a marketing strategy? What do of benefits would they offer to their employees?
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Hopefully De Niro will drop dead next.
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Hopefully De Niro will drop dead next.
I don't actively wish his death, but when it happens I won't be sad.
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Hopefully De Niro will drop dead next.
He’s probably fine if he’s dealing with Canadian based drug dealer.
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I don't actively wish his death, but when it happens I won't be sad.
I do, would love to see him seize up on live TV as he's crying his normal TDS rants, would be hilarious...
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I do, would love to see him seize up on live TV as he's crying his normal TDS rants, would be hilarious...
You're not wrong of course. I need to sack up.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/qBPRRJqW/the-best-joe-rogan-podcast-comedian-guests.jpg).
"Let me tell you something Joe Rogan. Years ago on the East Coast I knew this guy, Brian Higgins, Bram Harkins, something like that. Greatest pill tester you ever saw Joe Rogan. He'd sit there for hours just testing things, snorting them, shooting them. Boy, he'd sit there till his ass bled, the guy just couldn't be faded Joe. This fucking guy was a junkie's junkie, get this, I think he married a drug court attorney."
Brilliant 10/10
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I don't actively wish his death, but when it happens I won't be sad.
I know enough about him and his filthy ways to say without hesitation I hope he dies and dies soon. His heart and soul are anathema to all that is good and American.
He is long since given over to a reprobate mindset. I know exactly where he will wind up when the death rattle sounds over his already rotting corpse.
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I know enough about him and his filthy ways to say without hesitation I hope he dies and dies soon. His heart and soul are anathema to all that is good and American.
He is long since given over to a reprobate mindset. I know exactly where he will wind up when the death rattle sounds over his already rotting corpse.
Forgive me for being too soft for a.moment there.
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Forgive me for being too soft for a.moment there.
Please believe me when I say that it is fine to think otherwise than I. De Niro is filth made flesh and drug addicts are scum. My youngest brother was a Meth addict and I put him in jail without hesitation as he had threatened our beloved mother.
Years later and clean of any drugs he took his own life. He could have done what many cowards do and take innocent life in the manner of those that cannot take their own so that Law ENFORCEment takes them out but he did not.
I have no pity for drug addicts or these cucks who would end Civilization with their vile was. Both are weak and without morals but again, you are free to choose how you think. Be well, sir!
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Please believe me when I say that it is fine to think otherwise than I. De Niro is filth made flesh and drug addicts are scum. My youngest brother was a Meth addict and I put him in jail without hesitation as he had threatened our beloved mother.
Years later and clean of any drugs he took his own life. He could have done what many cowards do and take innocent life in the manner of those that cannot take their own so that Law ENFORCEment takes them out but he did not.
I have no pity for drug addicts or these cucks who would end Civilization with their vile was. Both are weak and without morals but again, you are free to choose how you think. Be well, sir!
Likewise good sir. Keep fighting the good fight.
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I don't know if it's true but some say smokers have been told how hard it is to quit so much that many don't even try and many would in fact find it wasn't actually that hard. People are self sabotaging even before they try. I've known several people who claimed it wasn't hard at all even after decades of smoking.
Some have cravings decades after but what is also common is ex-smokers saying how disgusting smoking is, how disgusting it smells, everything is bad about it, they really really hate it. Other ex-smokers still take a cig when offered if drunk. Probably your mind/brain wants to drive dopamine even higher.
Truth. It isn't that hard. Like quitting alcohol, it's no where near as bad as you fear.
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Bob's Grandson still dead??