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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #125 on: March 06, 2014, 12:07:17 PM »
I don't see them buying it anywhere,my guess is they have older brother or sister that smokes or the parents

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #126 on: March 06, 2014, 12:08:19 PM »
Okay, so when did it become a problem?



I'm not sure it is a widespread problem.  I have never seen this being a problem, nor have I heard or read about it being a problem.  

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #127 on: March 06, 2014, 12:09:02 PM »
I don't see them buying it anywhere,my guess is they have older brother or sister that smokes or the parents

Definitely possible, but could have been a neighbor, someone at school, etc. 

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #128 on: March 06, 2014, 12:11:19 PM »
I'm not sure it is a widespread problem.  I have never seen this being a problem, nor have I heard or read about it being a problem. 

Through the media, you mean?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #129 on: March 06, 2014, 12:14:06 PM »
Through the media, you mean?

Through the news (online, print, TV), my interaction with numerous schools, teachers, etc. 

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #130 on: March 06, 2014, 12:21:15 PM »
Through the news (online, print, TV), my interaction with numerous schools, teachers, etc. 

Is this the first such case you've been made aware of?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #131 on: March 06, 2014, 12:25:21 PM »
Is this the first such case you've been made aware of?

No, I have heard of young kids experimenting with drugs before.  But a chronic problem with eight year olds smoking pot?  No.

On what basis did you conclude that eight year olds smoking pot has been a problem in the U.S. for the last 200+ years? 

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #132 on: March 06, 2014, 12:30:04 PM »
No, I have heard of young kids experimenting with drugs before.  But a chronic problem with eight year olds smoking pot?  No.

On what basis did you conclude that eight year olds smoking pot has been a problem in the U.S. for the last 200+ years? 

Is that what this is?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #133 on: March 06, 2014, 12:35:10 PM »
So we're talking about an isolated problem versus a widespread problem, right?

Trying to figure whether this problem will soon become widespread. Is that right?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #134 on: March 06, 2014, 12:49:16 PM »
So we're talking about an isolated problem versus a widespread problem, right?

Trying to figure whether this problem will soon become widespread. Is that right?


On what basis did you conclude that eight year olds smoking pot has been a problem in the U.S. for the last 200+ years

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #135 on: March 06, 2014, 12:57:28 PM »
On what basis did you conclude that eight year olds smoking pot has been a problem in the U.S. for the last 200+ years

Wouldn't you say that any instance of children using marijuana is a problem?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #136 on: March 06, 2014, 01:06:01 PM »
Wouldn't you say that any instance of children using marijuana is a problem?

You didn't answer his question.

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #137 on: March 06, 2014, 01:07:59 PM »
You didn't answer his question.

Maybe I misinterpreted it. Why don't you ask me the question?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #138 on: March 06, 2014, 01:14:26 PM »
Maybe I misinterpreted it. Why don't you ask me the question?

You can read can't you?  If you didn't understand the question you should have asked BB instead of pretending you did.

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #139 on: March 06, 2014, 01:21:05 PM »
You can read can't you?  If you didn't understand the question you should have asked BB instead of pretending you did.

Do you suppose he's asking whether any children have smoked marijuana during the time period he referred to?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #140 on: March 06, 2014, 01:22:49 PM »
..because if you view each instance as a problem, the answer should make sense.

Right?

If it doesn't make sense, please explain.

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #141 on: March 06, 2014, 01:30:56 PM »
Do you suppose he's asking whether any children have smoked marijuana during the time period he referred to?

You can't be serious.   

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #142 on: March 06, 2014, 01:32:42 PM »
You can't be serious.   

Do you believe that any children have smoked pot during the time period Beach referred to?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #143 on: March 06, 2014, 01:33:39 PM »
...it's a very simple question.

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #144 on: March 06, 2014, 01:35:54 PM »
So if you want to talk about an isolated problem versus a widespread problem, then do it. Come out and say it.

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #145 on: March 06, 2014, 01:46:02 PM »
...it's a very simple question.
Yet you can't seem to answer it.  All you do is answer a question with a question.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Question_dodging


Question dodging is the intentional avoidance of answering a question.
This may happen when the person questioned either does not know the answer and wants to avoid embarrassment, or when the person is being interrogated or questioned in debate, and wants to avoid giving a direct response.

Overt question dodging can sometimes be employed humorously, in order to sidestep giving a public answer in a political discussion: when a reporter asked Mayor Richard J. Daley why Hubert Humphrey had lost the state of Illinois in the 1968 presidential election, Daley replied "He lost it because he didn't get enough votes."

A false accusation of question dodging can sometimes be made as a disingenuous tactic in debate, in the informal fallacy of the loaded question. A common way out of this argument is not to answer the question (e.g. with a simple 'yes' or 'no'), but to challenge the assumption behind the question. This can lead the person questioned to be accused of "dodging the question".

Often the aim of dodging a question is to make it seem as though the question was fulfilled. The person who asked the question feeling satisfied with the answer, unaware that the question was not properly answered.
The form of a dodged question, this example being "Why are you here?", could be:


Refusing to answer ("No comment.")
Changing the subject ("Your shoelace is undone.")
Explaining redundant things to distract one's focus ("Well I arrived here 10 minutes ago and I decided that...")
Creating an excuse not to answer ("I'm feeling sick, I can't answer now.")
Repeating the question ("Why are you here?")
Answering the question with another question ("Why do you think I'm here?")
Answering things that weren't asked ("I'm in the corridor.")
Questioning the question ("Are you sure that's relevant?")
Challenging the question ("You assume I am here for a reason.")
Giving an answer in the wrong context ("Because I was born.")




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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #146 on: March 06, 2014, 01:54:00 PM »
Looks like you're making a self-diagnosis.

Do you say that any children have smoked marijuana during that period?

Do you view every possible instance as a problem?

If so, there has been a problem.

Right?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #147 on: March 06, 2014, 01:55:07 PM »
Looks like a self-diagnosis.

Do you say that any children have smoked marijuana during that period?

Do you view every possible instance as a problem?

If so, there has been a problem.

You can't help yourself from doing it. You're still doing it.  Answer BB question. 

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #148 on: March 06, 2014, 01:57:21 PM »
You can't help yourself from doing it. You're still doing it.  Answer BB question. 

Children have smoked marijuana.

Children smoking marijuana is a problem.

Therefore, there has been a problem.

Is that plain enough for you, or would you like to break it down further?

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Re: Legalized Marijuana and the Crime Question
« Reply #149 on: March 06, 2014, 02:00:06 PM »
Children have smoked marijuana.

Children smoking marijuana is a problem.

Therefore, there has been a problem.

Is that plain enough for you, or would you like to break it down further?


Shouldn't you ask BB to explain his question to you?  You said you didn't understand it.