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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1050 on: August 13, 2024, 09:46:33 PM »
but does God believe in Mr Trump?

Is this a rhetorical question?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1051 on: August 13, 2024, 11:21:00 PM »
but does God believe in Mr Trump?

Seems to me you either believe or you don't. Trump being more a believer in god mathematically could put him at .002% Not all that impressive

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1052 on: August 14, 2024, 01:07:09 AM »
but does God believe in Mr Trump?
We'll see in 3 months.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1053 on: August 14, 2024, 06:28:05 AM »
God is a big fan of MAGA.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1054 on: August 14, 2024, 07:13:46 PM »
Billy Graham's Son Rips 'Evangelicals for Harris' Ad
By Newsmax Staff    |   14 August 2024
https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/billy-graham-franklin-graham-evangelicals/2024/08/14/id/1176580/

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1055 on: September 04, 2024, 02:53:20 AM »
God is a big fan of MAGA.

I highly doubt that... But you won't convince MAGA that even if you mad them read the bible which they won't

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1056 on: September 09, 2024, 05:28:22 AM »



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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1057 on: October 15, 2024, 07:53:29 PM »
LARRY KUDLOW: Do Democrats hate religion?
Kudlow unpacks Democrats' support among religious voters
By Larry Kudlow
Published October 14, 2024
https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/larry-kudlow-do-democrats-hate-religion

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1058 on: October 16, 2024, 12:22:14 AM »
I highly doubt that... But you won't convince MAGA that even if you mad them read the bible which they won't






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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1059 on: October 16, 2024, 12:23:05 AM »
LARRY KUDLOW: Do Democrats hate religion?
Kudlow unpacks Democrats' support among religious voters
By Larry Kudlow
Published October 14, 2024
https://www.foxbusiness.com/media/larry-kudlow-do-democrats-hate-religion
They certainly act like they do.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1060 on: October 16, 2024, 01:19:27 AM »
They certainly act like they do.

They hate Christianity, but love Islam.  Weird.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1061 on: October 16, 2024, 10:31:40 PM »
Los Angeles Archdiocese agrees to pay $880 million to settle sexual abuse claims

The Roman Catholic Archdiocese of Los Angeles has agreed to pay $880 million to 1,353 people who say they were sexually abused as children by clergy dating back decades, the largest settlement involving a U.S. diocese.

The Archdiocese began mediating the abuse claims after California enacted a law that allowed new lawsuits to be based on past instances of sexual abuse involving minors. The California law and similar legislation in other states have driven many large Catholic organizations to seek bankruptcy protection around the U.S. to resolve similar abuse claims.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2024/10/17/los-angeles-archdiocese-child-sexual-abuse-settlement/75711875007/

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1062 on: October 17, 2024, 01:01:19 AM »
They hate Christianity, but love Islam.  Weird.
"The enemy of my enemy is my friend."

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1063 on: October 17, 2024, 09:20:15 PM »
Oklahoma parents and teachers sue to stop top education official’s classroom Bible mandate

A group of Oklahoma parents of public school students, teachers and ministers filed a lawsuit Thursday seeking to stop the state’s top education official from forcing schools to incorporate the Bible into lesson plans for students in grades 5 through 12.

The lawsuit filed with the Oklahoma Supreme Court also asks the court to stop Republican State Superintendent Ryan Walters from spending $3 million to purchase Bibles in support of his mandate.

The suit alleges that the mandate violates the Oklahoma Constitution because it involves spending public money to support religion and favors one religion over another by requiring the use of a Protestant version of the Bible. It also alleges that Walters and the state Board of Education don’t have the authority to require the use of instructional materials.

https://apnews.com/article/oklahoma-bible-mandate-schools-lawsuit-c5c09efa5332db1ab16f7ff2da7be0b8

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1064 on: October 18, 2024, 12:04:33 AM »
Oklahoma parents and teachers sue to stop top education official’s classroom Bible mandate

A group of Oklahoma parents of public school students, teachers and ministers filed a lawsuit Thursday seeking to stop the state’s top education official from forcing schools to incorporate the Bible into lesson plans for students in grades 5 through 12.

The lawsuit filed with the Oklahoma Supreme Court also asks the court to stop Republican State Superintendent Ryan Walters from spending $3 million to purchase Bibles in support of his mandate.

The suit alleges that the mandate violates the Oklahoma Constitution because it involves spending public money to support religion and favors one religion over another by requiring the use of a Protestant version of the Bible. It also alleges that Walters and the state Board of Education don’t have the authority to require the use of instructional materials.

https://apnews.com/article/oklahoma-bible-mandate-schools-lawsuit-c5c09efa5332db1ab16f7ff2da7be0b8
This is why republicans lose elections.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1065 on: October 22, 2024, 10:40:40 PM »
Oklahoma parents and teachers sue to stop top education official’s classroom Bible mandate

A group of Oklahoma parents of public school students, teachers and ministers filed a lawsuit Thursday seeking to stop the state’s top education official from forcing schools to incorporate the Bible into lesson plans for students in grades 5 through 12.

The lawsuit filed with the Oklahoma Supreme Court also asks the court to stop Republican State Superintendent Ryan Walters from spending $3 million to purchase Bibles in support of his mandate.

The suit alleges that the mandate violates the Oklahoma Constitution because it involves spending public money to support religion and favors one religion over another by requiring the use of a Protestant version of the Bible. It also alleges that Walters and the state Board of Education don’t have the authority to require the use of instructional materials.

https://apnews.com/article/oklahoma-bible-mandate-schools-lawsuit-c5c09efa5332db1ab16f7ff2da7be0b8

It's Oklahoma. I think they came in 2nd from last in education and are actually proud of not being last.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1066 on: October 24, 2024, 12:38:21 AM »
I don't believe her.  I don't care whether she does "pray every day . . . sometimes twice a day."  I care about whether she is telling the truth. 

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Vice President Kamala Harris says that she “prays everyday” and is very grounded in her faith. Do you believe her?

https://x.com/DailySignal/status/1849285475363639337

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1067 on: October 24, 2024, 12:46:46 AM »
I don't believe her.  I don't care whether she does "pray every day . . . sometimes twice a day."  I care about whether she is telling the truth. 

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Vice President Kamala Harris says that she “prays everyday” and is very grounded in her faith. Do you believe her?

https://x.com/DailySignal/status/1849285475363639337
She also claimed to own guns during the debate after years of saying she would never own one. These people will say anything to get elected.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1068 on: October 28, 2024, 11:42:13 AM »
She also claimed to own guns during the debate after years of saying she would never own one. These people will say anything to get elected.

I seriously doubt she has ever owned or fired a firearm. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1069 on: October 28, 2024, 11:42:39 AM »

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A remarkably insightful description of what’s at stake in this election from Catholic Archbishop Carlo Vigano. Please read this:

OPEN LETTER TO AMERICAN CATHOLICS ON THE EVE OF THE 2024 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION

Dear Faithful American Catholics, I am addressing all of you, a few days before the Presidential Election that will call millions of American citizens to the polls.

Even in conditions of relative normality, the exercise of the vote is your moral duty, through which you cooperate in the first person in choosing the person who will lead the Nation for the next four years. But in this coming electoral round – just as in 2020 and indeed much more so – you are not simply called to choose between two candidates who happen to be on different political sides but who both nevertheless have the common good at heart in compliance with the Constitution and the Law. No; in this election you must choose between two radically opposed ways of conceiving the government of your Nation: you are called to choose between democracy and dictatorship, between freedom and slavery.

On one side we have candidate Donald J. Trump, who, despite serious problems in his positions – especially in the matter of abortion and assisted procreation – has as his objective the common good and the protection of the fundamental freedoms of citizens. In Donald Trump’s America, every Catholic can practice their Faith and educate their children in it without interference from the State.

On the other side we have a candidate and a party that promotes everything that directly opposes the Faith and Morals of the Catholic Church. In Kamala Harris’ America, Catholics – but also Protestants – are considered fundamentalists to be marginalized and eliminated, and their children are considered the property of the State, which arrogates to itself the right to lead them astray from an early age in both body and soul. Trump’s America can become great and prosperous again. Harris’ America is destined for invasion and for moral, social, and economic destruction: the most ferocious dictatorship.

Look at your country! Your cities have become dumps filled with derelicts and criminals, drug dealers and addicts, prostitutes and robbers. Your schools are dens of indoctrination and corruption from kindergarten onwards. In your courts, criminals are acquitted and innocents are imprisoned: new ideological crimes are prosecuted, while illegality is tolerated and encouraged. In your hospitals, multinational corporations rule, and you are their guinea pigs to be exterminated or made chronically ill so that you will be their perpetual clients. Farmers, ranchers, and fishermen are persecuted and forced to fail, while the land is grabbed by unscrupulous corporations who transform it into endless photovoltaic systems and wind turbines to power their data centers and server farms where they collect all your data, your movements, your purchases, and your political preferences. They have gone so far as to tamper with the climate by means of sophisticated geoengineering operations and devastating arson in order to make the global warming fraud credible and impose the green transition, the increase in the cost of energy, and electric cars and scooters. And all this is done based on evidence that consists of lies without any scientific proof, but which are propagated through the servile collaboration of the regime media, ever ready to label any dissenters as conspiracy theorists. But what until yesterday was dismissed as the result of conspiracy theories is now admitted by the government itself. They takeaway your sunlight; they poison you by seeding the clouds; they overwhelm your villages and your fields with deadly hurricanes; they kill your livestock and dry up your crops with induced droughts and devastating fires. They aim to control the entire food sector, to force you to eat only what they make available to you. This is what the Agenda 2030 calls for, which has been imposed without any vote by the United Nations and the World Economic Forum.

In these four disastrous years of the Biden-Harris administration, we have had a puppet in the White House and a corrupt and incompetent Vice President who has never stopped lying and deceiving voters about her past and her future. Power is managed by the criminal deep state – whose names and faces we now know – that is responsible for the destruction of your great Nation. And to ensure that the crisis is endless, new war scenarios are continually opening up, in conflicts that no one actually wants, except for those who make enormous profits from them, sacrificing human lives and compromising international stability.

You have seen what the Democrats, that is, the woke far Left, have been capable of in four years. Imagine what they will be able to do if, instead of Biden’s numerous stand-ins, his Vice President is elected – in the most scandalous and unimaginable fraud – with her entourage of LGBTQ+ Ministers, rigorously woke, sold out to China or the World Economic Forum, sponsored by George Soros or Bill Gates, manipulated by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. At that point, dear American Catholics, you will not only have to go to a different rally – as Kamala would like – in order to say “Christ is the Lord”, because saying that will be considered hate speech, and praying in front of an abortion clinic an act of terrorism. Do not think that these are remote hypotheses: wherever the woke Left takes power, it establishes the most vicious, anti-human, and anti-Christian dictatorship that humanity has ever known. And we know that every time the Left has come to power, it has never left through democratic means.

Donald Trump and Kamala Harris: we are not talking about two visions that are a bit different but still part of the normal political back-and-forth. No; we are talking about two diametrically opposed and irreconcilable worlds, in which Trump fights against the deep state and is committed to freeing America from its tentacled grip, while on the opposite side we have a corrupt and blackmailed candidate, an organic part of the deep state, who acts as a puppet in the hands of warmongers like Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, of self-proclaimed “philanthropists” like the criminals George Soros and Klaus Schwab, or of characters like Jeffrey Epstein and Sean Combs. Their program is that of the Global Left, the World Economic Forum, the Rockefeller Foundation, the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation, and ultimately the program of Vanguard, BlackRock, and StateStreet. Their agenda is dictated by the financial oligarchy that controls humanity to the detriment of the people: an elite that operates not only in the United States but also in Canada, Australia, Europe, and wherever politics is held hostage by their investment funds and their pseudo-humanitarian organizations dedicated to the obliteration of Western Civilization.

Behind these people – by now we should know this – are people devoted to evil, united by the satanic hatred against Our Lord Jesus Christ and those who believe in Him, mainly against the Catholic faithful. We want Christ to reign, and we proclaim it with pride: Christ is King! They want the Antichrist to reign, whose tyranny is made of chaos, war, disease, famine, and death. And the more emergencies and crises planned and created by the globalist elite increase, the more that elite has a pretext to impose new limitations, new restrictions of fundamental rights, and new social controls.

Joe Biden, the current “President,” is a servant of this subversive elite and widely blackmailable for the scandals and crimes committed by himself personally and also by his family, beginning with his son Hunter. His “Vice President,” Kamala Harris, is equally subservient to the same deep state. And the Democratic Party, to which they both belong, is the expression of the woke ideology that plagues all the parties of the global Left.

Candidate Donald J. Trump, while certainly taking some serious critical positions that a Catholic cannot agree with, represents for us, dear American faithful, in this specific historical moment, the only possible choice to counter the globalist coup that the woke Left is about to implement definitively, irreparably, and with incalculable damage for future generations.

Voting for Donald Trump means firmly distancing ourselves from an anti-Catholic, anti-Christian and anti-human vision of society. It means stopping those who want to create a hellish dystopia that is even worse than the one announced by George Orwell. And it also means – do not forget – giving him our vote of confidence, so that President Trump knows that the massive vote of Catholics and Christians that brought him back to the White House must become the premise for a more incisive commitment to the defense of life from conception to natural death, the traditional family, the right of parents to educate their children, and to the defense of the Christian Faith and the cultural identity of the Nation.

I repeat: the choice is between a conservative President, who is paying with his very life for his fight against the deep state, and an infernal monster who obeys Satan. For a Catholic, there can be no question: voting for Kamala Harris is morally inadmissible and constitutes a very grave sin. Nor is it morally possible to abstain, because in this war declaring oneself neutral means allying oneself with the enemy.

People around the world are beginning to understand the threat that looms over them and their children’s future, and you Americans have understood it too. But even if this time it will be more difficult for the deep state to repeat the fraud of 2020, you must not think that it will resign itself to defeat so easily. Let us therefore prepare to prevent possible attacks and civil war scenarios from being used to impose martial law and new restrictions, after the attempts on his life from which President Trump providentially escaped.

But let us not forget, dear Faithful, that human energies alone are powerless in the face of this infernal display of forces. We proclaim that Christ is King – this means that Our Lord must return to reign, and the first way to make Him reign is by obeying His holy Law and living in His Grace. Let Christ reign in your hearts, in your families, in your communities, and throughout the entire United States of America: this is the only way to peace, harmony, and prosperity for your Nation.

Think of how many of you Catholics there are in the United States! Vote without hesitation, and pray that Our Lord will enlighten American citizens in making their choice and grant victory to those who, at least, have no problem proclaiming that Christ is Lord. May God bless you all, and may the Virgin of Guadalupe, she who is the Patroness of the United States and all the Americas, and Saint Michael the Archangel, protect you.

+ Carlo Maria Viganò, Archbishop,
Former Apostolic Nuncio to the United States of America

October 22, 2024

https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1849532812581359736

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1070 on: November 01, 2024, 12:07:44 AM »
She also claimed to own guns during the debate after years of saying she would never own one. These people will say anything to get elected.

Link?

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1071 on: November 01, 2024, 12:16:49 AM »
Link?
Watch the debate they had. She said she and Biden owned guns after Trump said she was against gun rights.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1072 on: November 01, 2024, 10:09:19 PM »
Watch the debate they had. She said she and Biden owned guns after Trump said she was against gun rights.

I watched the debate. She said she owns a gun.  YOU said she lied. I'm asking you to produce the proof she lied

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1073 on: November 02, 2024, 12:28:06 AM »
I watched the debate. She said she owns a gun.  YOU said she lied. I'm asking you to produce the proof she lied
In a 2020 Democratic debate she said she never owned a gun. I doubt if she bought one since.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #1074 on: November 04, 2024, 08:00:55 PM »
In a 2020 Democratic debate she said she never owned a gun. I doubt if she bought one since.

and again, I ask for a link to that comment. Either produce it or don't