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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #500 on: December 31, 2018, 01:58:34 PM »
Here we are, on the final trading day of 2018, and once again no Dow crash came to 401K as Neurotoxin predicted back in 2016 and then again early this year.

Neurotoxin, if this is what you do for a living, you should find a different job.


U.S. stocks rose on the final trading day of 2018

https://www.wsj.com/articles/global-stocks-rise-to-end-turbulent-2018-11546247179

Lock this thread and allow it to fade away.  Keeping it active would be cruel.

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #501 on: December 31, 2018, 02:48:42 PM »
Lock this thread and allow it to fade away.  Keeping it active would be cruel.

It ends at 11:59 PM today.

Tomorrow is a New Year.

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #502 on: December 31, 2018, 05:44:38 PM »
It ends at 11:59 PM today.

Tomorrow is a New Year.


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #503 on: January 01, 2019, 10:03:48 AM »
Beware.

I guess if you keep predicting a crash every year, you're bound to get it right eventually.



That's three years in a row your prediction failed. 

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #504 on: January 01, 2019, 10:17:18 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/corporate-profit-crunch-looms-as-stocks-slide-11546261258

Don’t get sucked into current “short cover” rally.

Short-lived it will be.


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #505 on: January 01, 2019, 11:40:23 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/corporate-profit-crunch-looms-as-stocks-slide-11546261258

Don’t get sucked into current “short cover” rally.

Short-lived it will be.


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Ah, 2018 has ended.  Your predictions failed, again.

Happy New Year, Neurotoxin!

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #506 on: January 01, 2019, 03:22:38 PM »
Not necessarily.  By that logic you could say that getting into a vehicle to drive or ride anywhere is gambling every time, and therefore it makes you a gambler.

Also, being way too conservative with your money can be very risky too.  Your money could lose value to inflation, or a retiree could run out of money too soon if inventing too conservatively, or not investing at all.


Prime,

There are good, legit, internet banks out there that offer CDs with up to 3.50% APY right now, and savings accounts with up to  2.39% APY.

Rates haven't been this good in over a decade.  If you have a good chunk of money you won't need for a while, and you don't want a guaranteed 2% to 3% loss due to inflation, these are good low risk options.


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You are right, there are very few sure things in life as in death and taxes. I was thinking about financial investments only. Not routine things like driving a car. You advice regarding CD's is sound. In fact, some of my investment came from money I moved out of a CD.

Although it's not a sure thing, my retirement income is sound. Most of it is from guaranteed annuities with annual cost of living increases. Increases in SSI are minimal. The money I have in savings grows overtime because I add to it using excess income. Starting at age 70 1/2 as per the law, I've been taking the minimum required annual withdrawals from a couple of IRA accounts.

Before reaching my 40's I wasn't at all conservative. Both my wife and I quickly spent our various inheritances. Had we socked that money away, I'd be rich today.  :(

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #507 on: January 01, 2019, 03:34:36 PM »
I guess if you keep predicting a crash every year, you're bound to get it right eventually.



The same can be said for predicting a boom, which s a positive thinker, I prefer

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #508 on: January 02, 2019, 05:07:42 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/corporate-profit-crunch-looms-as-stocks-slide-11546261258

Don’t get sucked into current “short cover” rally.

Short-lived it will be.


-NT

Opinion unchanged.


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #510 on: January 02, 2019, 05:20:20 AM »
Opinion unchanged.


-NT


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=620698.msg8619951#msg8619951


http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=644157.msg9014728#msg9014728

S&P 500 as of October 18, 2016 - 2140

S&P 500 Today - 2670

About a 25% increase in roughly a year and a half.

Neurotoxin, with that kind of stock market advice, I would have TWO WORDS for you.



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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #511 on: January 02, 2019, 07:57:32 AM »
https://www.cnbc.com/2018/12/14/ron-paul-market-meltdown-could-spark-depression-like-conditions.html

Following a -6,000+ point DROP in Dow, short cover rally @ 200dma (weekly)

“Rally” to declining 50dma/death cross expected.

Market failure at said level anticipated.


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Opinion unchanged.


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #512 on: January 02, 2019, 08:57:56 AM »

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #513 on: January 03, 2019, 04:26:28 AM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/corporate-profit-crunch-looms-as-stocks-slide-11546261258

Don’t get sucked into current “short cover” rally.

Short-lived it will be.


-NT

https://www.marketwatch.com/

Global Markets Tumble?

Coincidence?

Insider?

LARP?


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #515 on: January 03, 2019, 12:23:54 PM »
Is anyone buying up Apple right now?

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #516 on: January 03, 2019, 12:31:34 PM »
Is anyone buying up Apple right now?

Buying individual stocks is a bad, bad idea.  Buy low cost index funds instead.

Don't buy just the apple.  Buy the whole fruit basket instead.

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #517 on: January 03, 2019, 01:27:16 PM »
https://www.wsj.com/articles/corporate-profit-crunch-looms-as-stocks-slide-11546261258

Don’t get sucked into current “short cover” rally.

Short-lived it will be.


-NT

https://www.cnbc.com/

Dow DOWN  -660 points

Nasdaq DOWN -202 points


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #518 on: January 03, 2019, 03:10:48 PM »
Is anyone buying up Apple right now?


Didn't they stop releasing numbers on how many phones they sold? I would think that would have been a pretty strong warning sign that their market had changed.


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #519 on: January 03, 2019, 08:23:11 PM »
Buying individual stocks is a bad, bad idea.  Buy low cost index funds instead.

Don't buy just the apple.  Buy the whole fruit basket instead.

I have a JP Morgan managed account split

44% Equity
49% Fixed and cash
and about 6.5% in another (unclassified)

But also have about 15-20 individual that I play with from about 6:30am till market close

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #520 on: January 04, 2019, 02:57:07 AM »
I have a JP Morgan managed account split

44% Equity
49% Fixed and cash
and about 6.5% in another (unclassified)

But also have about 15-20 individual that I play with from about 6:30am till market close

"managed account"?  You are getting raped by your fund manager with unnecessary fees, and his fund managing skills are no better than a monkey throwing darts at a board with stock picks.

15-20 individual stocks you play with all day?  As long as you are already financially independent, or very soon to be, and you have spare money to throw away gambling, there's nothing wrong with that.  Call it entertainment money.

Wish you best of luck!

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #521 on: January 04, 2019, 04:09:53 AM »

Didn't they stop releasing numbers on how many phones they sold? I would think that would have been a pretty strong warning sign that their market had changed.


You'd think, but no, not really.  When it comes to the stock market "Nobody knows nothing"

Apple's drop costs Warren Buffett $3.8 billion, adding to struggles for Berkshire portfolio

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/01/02/buffetts-berkshire-set-to-lose-about-2point8-billion-on-apples-after-market-drop-.html

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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #522 on: January 04, 2019, 05:30:41 AM »
Plunge Protection Team is SUPPORTING the market.

Expect a lot of up and down volatility w/ lower highs & lower lows.


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Re: Dow Crash Coming To Your 401k (2018)
« Reply #523 on: January 04, 2019, 05:48:53 AM »

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