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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/01/14/new-york-gun-control-deal-cuomo_n_2472275.html?1358180884&icid=maing-grid7

ALBANY, N.Y. — A key New York Senate leader and the Assembly speaker said they expect the state Legislature to vote Monday to enact what would be the nation's first gun control measure following last month's Connecticut school shooting.

"I think when all is said and done, we are going to pass a comprehensive gun bill today," Sen. Jeffrey Klein told reporters Monday morning. "I'm very excited about it. I am very confident we are going to vote on a comprehensive bill that will be agreed on by the governor, the Senate and Assembly."

People familiar with closed-door negotiations told The Associated Press a tentative deal was struck over the weekend.

The tentative agreement would further restrict New York's ban on assault weapons, limit the size of magazines to seven bullets, down from the current 10, and enact more stringent background checks for sales. Other elements, pushed by Republicans, would refine a mental health law to make it easier to confine people determined to be a threat to themselves or others.

Senate Republicans also have included a further crackdown on illegal gun trafficking into New York, the people said. Most New York City gun crimes involve weapons illegally brought into the state, state and city officials say.

The people spoke on condition of anonymity because the proposal had not been discussed among rank and file legislators. They say the tentative deal will be debated behind closed doors Monday in the Senate and the Democrat-led Assembly and could be sent to the floor for a vote Monday.

A Cuomo administration official, who also spoke on condition of anonymity because the deal was not final, said there was no agreement yet.

A vote Monday would come exactly one month after a gunman killed 20 children and six adults inside Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.

Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver said the deal will include ways for schools to use state aid to better guard against shootings.

The vote also would require Cuomo to issue a "message of necessity" that would dispense with the three days of public review that bills are supposed to have under the state constitution. There was no immediate comment from Cuomo, who made these gun control provisions a keynote of his State of the State address on Wednesday.

"I think the message out there is clear after Newtown and to get us down this road as quickly as possible to basically eradicate assault weapons from our streets in New York as quickly as possible is something the people of our state want," Silver said. "It's an important thing to do. It is an emergency."

Silver said lawmakers continued into Monday settling the remaining issues of "how you do certain things in drafting it."

He said a registry of assault weapons will be created, grandfathering in assault weapons already in private hands. He said crimes using guns will get additional mandatory minimum sentences.

"The solution is to get those assault weapons off the street," Silver told reporters.

The closed-door meetings prompted about a dozen gun workers to travel more than two hours to Albany to protest the legislation they say could cost 300 to 700 jobs in the economically hard-hit Mohawk Valley.

"I have three small kids myself," said Jamie Rudall, a unionized worker who polishes shotgun receivers. "So I know what it means, the tragedy ... we need to look at ways to prevent that, rather than eliminate the rights of law-abiding citizens."

"We don't want to get into the gun debate," said union organizer Frank "Rusty" Brown. "We're here about jobs."

Assemblyman Marc Butler, a Republican who represents the area, decried the closed-door meetings over the politically sensitive issue in by the Senate Republicans and the Democratic majority of the Assembly as "politics at its worst."

"This is on a fast track, they are going to shove it down our throats," Butler said. "They are about to step all over the Second Amendment in secret meetings."

The bill will be the first test of the new coalition in control of the state Senate, which has long been run by Republicans opposed to gun control measures. The chamber is now in the hands of Republicans and five breakaway Democrats led by Klein, an arrangement expected to result in more progressive legislation.

Former Republican Sen. Michael Balboni said that for legislators from the more conservative upstate region of New York, gun control "has the intensity of the gay marriage issue." In 2011, three of four Republicans who crossed the aisle to vote for same-sex marriage ended up losing their jobs because of their votes.

"It was always startling to me the vast cultural divide between New York City metropolitan view on gun control and most of the upstate communities," said Balboni, who represented part of Long Island for 10 years and was a Senate leader.

"Gun advocates see these incidents as almost cyclical and that in the wake of a national shooting incident, they have seen repeated calls for control," he said Monday. "They view it as a slippery slope to the banning and confiscation of weapons. Emotions run high and there will be tremendous pressure on all upstate legislators, Republicans and Democrats, to keep their base."

Also a concern is a major gun manufacturer in upstate New York.

Remington Arms Co. makes the Bushmaster semi-automatic rifle that was used in the Connecticut shootings and again on Christmas Eve in Webster, N.Y., when two firefighters were slain responding to a fire. The two-century-old Remington factory in Ilion in central New York employs 1,000 workers in a Republican Senate district.

Republican Assemblyman Marc Butler warned last week that a more restrictive assault weapon ban could cost the factory 300 jobs.
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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #1 on: January 14, 2013, 03:08:44 PM »
 Are they really going to lose a lot of jobs?

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #2 on: January 14, 2013, 03:19:16 PM »
7 round clips.   crazy.

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #4 on: January 14, 2013, 03:32:43 PM »
to make it easier to confine people

Gee, I didn't see that coming.

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #5 on: January 14, 2013, 03:33:56 PM »
Settle down. Nothing will really change.

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #6 on: January 14, 2013, 03:35:11 PM »
I am not surprised, they already banned Large Sodas in New York , soda pop is just as bad as gun pop in New York

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #7 on: January 14, 2013, 03:35:23 PM »
Are they really going to lose a lot of jobs?

Yes, there are still a lot of gun makers and subcontractors outside of the city. They'll leave. The Northeast is still big in the arms trade, but many are eyeing moving down south.

That magazine ban is silly, it's a big three round deduction.

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #8 on: January 14, 2013, 03:42:20 PM »
how many round are the fat pigs allowed to have in their guns???



either way i guess it does not matter ,they can just beat you to death once you give up and they put you in handcuffs




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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #9 on: January 14, 2013, 04:19:03 PM »
This does absolutely NOTHING other than to punish law abiding citizens who are now lumped in with a deranged lunatic.

Will the police officers of NY be limited to 7 rounds per magazine? NO

Will a reduction 10 rounds now to 7 from the original standard magazine of 30 make one iota of a difference? NO. Why? The asshole in CT had a full 20 minutes before police arrived , lets entertain he only carried 7 round magazines , he had 20 minutes to reload even with 7 round magazines. The death toll would have been the same.

You can buy preban 30/100 round magazines that were grandfathered in before the first ' assault weapons ban ' this law accomplishes NOTHING other than infringing on law abiding citizens rights

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=325936253

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I agree with tougher mental health checks , that's a necessity but passing a arbitrary limit on the amount of ammo a magazine can hold does nothing it's fucking retarded  

The magazine ban is unconstitutional and wont stand up in the SCOUTS

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #10 on: January 14, 2013, 04:24:10 PM »

I agree with tougher mental health checks ,
That's the only thing that should change .

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #11 on: January 14, 2013, 06:48:43 PM »
New York is a fucking garbage state.  I have to wear nose plugs just to drive thru it. 

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« Reply #12 on: January 14, 2013, 06:55:50 PM »
They really think they can stop/limit shootings by the mentally insane and the criminals with this?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed!

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #13 on: January 14, 2013, 06:58:14 PM »
this is treason and unconstitutional and a violation of new yorks citizens civil rights

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #14 on: January 14, 2013, 07:02:45 PM »
7 round clips.   crazy.

Less than most handguns that kill way more people than A/R's.

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« Reply #15 on: January 14, 2013, 07:10:54 PM »
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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #16 on: January 14, 2013, 07:30:05 PM »
7 round clips.   crazy.
you of all people should know - ITS NOT A CLIP ITS A FUCKING MAGAZINE. there are no clips used these days.

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« Reply #17 on: January 14, 2013, 07:35:24 PM »
you of all people should know - ITS NOT A CLIP ITS A FUCKING MAGAZINE. there are no clips used these days.

The detachable magazine is often controversially referred to as a clip or mag.

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« Reply #18 on: January 14, 2013, 07:41:54 PM »
you of all people should know - ITS NOT A CLIP ITS A FUCKING MAGAZINE. there are no clips used these days.

sorry, i feel annoyed when i say mag and people interpret it as a periodical.

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #19 on: January 14, 2013, 07:47:28 PM »
Fuck New York. Overrated shithole.
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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2013, 08:00:52 PM »
you of all people should know - ITS NOT A CLIP ITS A FUCKING MAGAZINE. there are no clips used these days.

The fuck you talking about?  There are many clips used today.   ???

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Re: New York Gun Control: Leaders Reach Tentative Deal On Assault Weapon
« Reply #21 on: January 14, 2013, 08:18:51 PM »
Fuck New York. Overrated shithole.

Wiggs, mind your tongue  :D :D. I live in NYC (born and raised)!
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« Reply #22 on: January 14, 2013, 08:20:44 PM »
Wiggs, mind your tongue  :D :D. I live in NYC (born and raised)!
Well that explains everything.

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« Reply #23 on: January 14, 2013, 08:28:01 PM »
Well that explains everything.

Explains everything? Expand on this please  ;D ;D

ps - I just posted the article. Do not kill the messenger!
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« Reply #24 on: January 14, 2013, 08:29:07 PM »
Explains everything? Expand on this please  ;D ;D
The only people that I've ever met that applauded being stripped of their rights or having shit taken away from them were from NYC and California.