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Title: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: anabolichalo on September 03, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
and if so why are you not buying it
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Novena on September 04, 2014, 06:24:45 PM
Scam.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Princess L on September 04, 2014, 09:12:29 PM
Depends on what it is.  Soft fleshy things where you eat the skin, I try, like strawberries,  Something like a banana, no.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Grape Ape on September 05, 2014, 06:54:34 AM
Organic milk tastes way better and lasts longer in the fridge.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: 24KT on September 06, 2014, 03:39:45 PM
If it is TRULY organic in the spirit of the word as opposed to merely the legal definition, then YES,
It is superior to synthetic, processed, preservative laden GMO Franken-foods (which are really slow-kill poisons)
Of course the degree of superiority is also heavily dependant on the condition of the soils in which they are grown.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Mr.Mojo on September 06, 2014, 04:11:58 PM
Organic foods do not necessarily mean toxin-free, as plants produce their own natural toxins and these can contaminate organic products. Farmers can use natural pesticides, such as sulfur, nicotine and copper, which can also be found on the foods.
Whether you choose organic or conventional foods, the safest way is to thoroughly rinse all fruits and vegetables under running water.
Wash items with inedible skins, like melons, because cutting the rinds with a knife can bring contaminants to the inside.

http://www.helpguide.org/life/organic_foods_pesticides_gmo.htm












Studies show that organic food has more beneficial nutrients, such as antioxidants, than their conventionally grown counterparts.
Organic produce contains fewer pesticides. Pesticides are chemicals such as fungicides, herbicides, and insecticides.
Organic food is usually fresher because it doesn’t contain preservatives that make it last longer
Organically raised animals are not given antibiotics, growth hormones, or fed animal byproducts.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: loco on September 11, 2014, 09:39:50 AM
Scam.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: WannaBePro on September 12, 2014, 08:26:19 AM
This should help.


Organic, most of the time, means outdated pesticides are used instead of modern (safer) ones. But essentially everything worth eating is GMO, from apples to bananas to strawberries.

What I'd like to find is meat which does not contain antibiotics. But I bet it would be many times more expensive than the "generic" meat, so may not even be worth it in my case (money is tight when you're a student and trying to build some muscle  ;D )
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: anabolichalo on September 12, 2014, 08:36:40 AM
This should help.


Organic, most of the time, means outdated pesticides are used instead of modern (safer) ones. But essentially everything worth eating is GMO, from apples to bananas to strawberries.

What I'd like to find is meat which does not contain antibiotics. But I bet it would be many times more expensive than the "generic" meat, so may not even be worth it in my case (money is tight when you're a student and trying to build some muscle  ;D )
great video

thanks
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: BigNJ on October 01, 2014, 05:37:46 PM
Organic is the way to go.
No hormones or pesticides, no added anything, just what nature meant for you to eat.

Plus, organic food and milk taste so much better.

I buy all my meat organic, eggs from organic free run chicken. you'll feel better trust me.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: WOOO on October 01, 2014, 05:52:13 PM
Organic is the way to go.
No hormones or pesticides, no added anything, just what nature meant for you to eat.

Plus, organic food and milk taste so much better.

I buy all my meat organic, eggs from organic free run chicken. you'll feel better trust me.


placebo effect in action
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: tu_holmes on October 01, 2014, 07:48:11 PM
I can't tell the difference in food tastes between organic and inorganic.

My girls says she can, but I'm skeptical.

Chicken tastes like chicken to me.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 01, 2014, 10:02:15 PM
I can't tell the difference in food tastes between organic and inorganic.

My girls says she can, but I'm skeptical.

Chicken tastes like chicken to me.

Free range chicken tastes better to me. -Lived on a farm as a kid. Everything was organic. It tasted better.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: tu_holmes on October 01, 2014, 10:12:44 PM
Free range chicken tastes better to me. -Lived on a farm as a kid. Everything was organic. It tasted better.

She says the same thing.

I just can't tell.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 02, 2014, 12:25:13 AM
She says the same thing.

I just can't tell.

It is also possible we just imagine that it tastes better because we paid more for it....except of course food grown or raised on the farm, which was essentially free.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: WannaBePro on October 02, 2014, 05:33:13 AM
Free range chicken tastes better to me. -Lived on a farm as a kid. Everything was organic. It tasted better.

From what I understand "free range" means they give the chickens the option to go outside, but they don't actually PUT them outside. So chances are the chickens just stay indoors anyway. My grandma has true "free range" chickens on her farm in Ukraine, she makes them leave the barn and roam around. I can't taste the difference between chicken I buy at Wholesale Club and hers. I CAN taste the difference between the chicken here in Canada and the cheap ones in the states. I have no idea what they give the American chickens, but the breast looks 3X as big as  regular chicken breast and is tough like a rock. On the bright side, its about $2/lb and has more protein in it than non-mutant chickens  ;D
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: WOOO on October 03, 2014, 03:57:00 AM
From what I understand "free range" means they give the chickens the option to go outside, but they don't actually PUT them outside. So chances are the chickens just stay indoors anyway. My grandma has true "free range" chickens on her farm in Ukraine, she makes them leave the barn and roam around. I can't taste the difference between chicken I buy at Wholesale Club and hers. I CAN taste the difference between the chicken here in Canada and the cheap ones in the states. I have no idea what they give the American chickens, but the breast looks 3X as big as  regular chicken breast and is tough like a rock. On the bright side, its about $2/lb and has more protein in it than non-mutant chickens  ;D

corn, antibiotics and hormones
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: WannaBePro on October 03, 2014, 10:58:59 AM
corn, antibiotics and hormones

I looked it up, and apparently its illegal to give chickens hormones in the US

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No steroid hormones are approved for growth purposes in dairy cattle, veal calves, pigs, or poultry. All of the steroid hormone growth-promoting drugs are available for over-the-counter purchase in the U.S. and are generally given by the livestock producer at specific stages of the animals’ growth.
source: http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/productsafetyinformation/ucm055436.htm (http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/productsafetyinformation/ucm055436.htm)

Perhaps its the corn and antibiotics alone? Still doesn't explain why the breasts are so big... Unless the exogenous hormones thing isn't enforced?
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: WOOO on October 12, 2014, 07:30:05 AM
I looked it up, and apparently its illegal to give chickens hormones in the US
source: http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/productsafetyinformation/ucm055436.htm (http://www.fda.gov/animalveterinary/safetyhealth/productsafetyinformation/ucm055436.htm)

Perhaps its the corn and antibiotics alone? Still doesn't explain why the breasts are so big... Unless the exogenous hormones thing isn't enforced?


no one ever breaks the law in the US... love of jesus and respect for the constitution keeps everyone angelic...
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: loco on October 13, 2014, 12:31:29 PM
From what I understand "free range" means they give the chickens the option to go outside, but they don't actually PUT them outside. So chances are the chickens just stay indoors anyway. My grandma has true "free range" chickens on her farm in Ukraine, she makes them leave the barn and roam around. I can't taste the difference between chicken I buy at Wholesale Club and hers. I CAN taste the difference between the chicken here in Canada and the cheap ones in the states. I have no idea what they give the American chickens, but the breast looks 3X as big as  regular chicken breast and is tough like a rock. On the bright side, its about $2/lb and has more protein in it than non-mutant chickens  ;D

According to some food documentary, Americans started consuming lots of chicken breasts during some "low fat"/"no fat" diet fad decade, probably the 80s.  So chickens in the US were some how genetically altered to have larger and leaner breasts.  That would explain the size and toughness(no fat) of American chicken breast, and the high protein content(almost all meat, very low to no fat, no bone).
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: loco on October 13, 2014, 12:32:50 PM
It is also possible we just imagine that it tastes better because we paid more for it....except of course food grown or raised on the farm, which was essentially free.

Is it possible that you just imagine that it tastes better because it takes you back to your childhood, growing up in a farm?
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Primemuscle on October 13, 2014, 12:38:51 PM
I've noticed that lately at the local Safeway, almost all the produce is labeled organic and costs more. What's up with that?
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: WOOO on October 19, 2014, 05:43:09 PM
I've noticed that lately at the local Safeway, almost all the produce is labeled organic and costs more. What's up with that?


their shareholders have demanded higher profits at the expense of their customers
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: ritch on November 26, 2014, 09:50:50 PM
Here in Quebec, there are no standards or laws on organic food. Means you can grow organic but the land right next to you is not. That's not how it's done I assume.... Nobody is checking on the claims of organic so for now, it's open game for dishonest people.
The meat is 3 times the price, impossible to even consider it unless you want to reduce your portions by 66%, lol...
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: keesh1 on June 13, 2015, 12:37:11 PM
great video

thanks

Great video. I never realised that cultivated equals modified. But it really is true. I've never cared about that GMO fuss, and I won't care. Thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Davidtheman100 on June 17, 2015, 11:58:22 AM
and if so why are you not buying it

Gotta say scam or negligible difference that is not worth the difference in pricing..Although i don't regularly shop at whole foods i was there with my girlfriend and the broccoli looked much better than i buy elsewhere...cleaner = more pesticides and more chemicals so i think it can be decieving and at the end of the day nobody should give that much of a f*ck imo
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Primemuscle on June 22, 2015, 05:07:54 PM
Gotta say scam or negligible difference that is not worth the difference in pricing..Although i don't regularly shop at whole foods i was there with my girlfriend and the broccoli looked much better than i buy elsewhere...cleaner = more pesticides and more chemicals so i think it can be decieving and at the end of the day nobody should give that much of a f*ck imo

Sometimes organic foods, especially vegetables and fruits are visually less attractive then their non-organic counterparts. Non-organic plants and fruits are genetically altered using plant steroids, fertilizers and pesticides to grow them bigger. One great example is strawberries. Naturally grown strawberries are much smaller, not mealy, and have a considerably sweeter taste then genetically altered ones do.

Exactly how these things affect the human body is not clearly understood at this point. There is some indication that commercially produced non-organic foods contribute to obesity. For example if cows and chickens are given steroids, does some residual remain in the meat when we eat it?
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: anabolichalo on June 29, 2016, 11:43:53 PM
Sometimes organic foods, especially vegetables and fruits are visually less attractive then their non-organic counterparts. Non-organic plants and fruits are genetically altered using plant steroids, fertilizers and pesticides to grow them bigger. One great example is strawberries. Naturally grown strawberries are much smaller, not mealy, and have a considerably sweeter taste then genetically altered ones do.

Exactly how these things affect the human body is not clearly understood at this point. There is some indication that commercially produced non-organic foods contribute to obesity. For example if cows and chickens are given steroids, does some residual remain in the meat when we eat it?
it could explain the rampant baldness among young people

but since females are not affected i doubt that's the case
Title: Re: organically produced food - is it truly superior food or just a scam?
Post by: Primemuscle on July 01, 2016, 02:17:26 PM
it could explain the rampant baldness among young people

but since females are not affected i doubt that's the case

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Currently, it is believed that PB (male pattern baldness) results from a combination of androgen levels and a genetic predisposition
(Bertolino & Freedberg, 1987; Odom et al., 2000).