Shawn Ray appreciation thread

[Wiggs]

I've been around bodybuilding whether through internet, gyms etc for 15 years...In all that time, I've never heard even rumors about what Shawn Ray took...We know how he diets and trains but never any guesses on what he took and the amounts...well except the Winstrol that dq'd him from the Arnold...

I imagine it wasn't that much not only because his size but he's not a reckless guy and valued his health...

In the late 90s up till 2001 when he retired his waist widened and he wasn't as sharp as he was from 93-96 so I'm guessing there was a change in the protocol there...I'd guess he was more a parabolin, primobolan, winstrol, anavar, masteron, eq, low dose gh and test suspension guy in his prime...more of anabolic vs. androgenic guy.

Your thoughts.

BTW current pros could learn alot from Shawn, while he was a whiny little, cheap asshole (back then)...Dude did everything right (tons of mag covers, lots of sponsors, well spoken and professional) and did things his way and though he never won an Olympia (robbed, but that's another thread) he earned a great living didn't sacrifice his health and wore regular clothes and not look like a clown...

[Boost]

His mentor John Brown said that out of Shawn, Vince Taylor and Melvin Anthony,

Shawn grew by just looking at weights and apparently never had to take a lot of steroids.

To be honest, the pics of him at 17, 18 and then the pro card at 22,

All the muscles are there. He slowly got bigger as his career progressed.

I doubt he used a lot. Great genetics

[no one]

i'd believe that of all the pros SR took prolly the lower end when it came to what everyone else was taking at that time- look at his physique today- guys who mega dose all end up looking like they have the beginning stages of palumboism (take ronnie for example). something about pushing the envelope too much ruins your physique later down the road. i dont see this with ray.

[Boost]

He was very complete at a young age.

His physique didn't blow up as much as other guys.

[Wiggs]

I have a couple of his videos and I was watching "the final count down"....no homo

It reminded me of a time when I actually liked bodybuilding..I always enjoyed watching his interviews and watching his videos because he told the truth and didn't give a fuck about the political ramifications...you can't say that about ANYONE in the sport today...I respect the guy alot more now than I did when I was a kid...

Dude was all business.

BTW no homo...P.I.P SgtD...aka Shawn Ray's gimmick account.

[Jaime]

His physique looks better at 18 than it does at the 98 O.

[Wiggs]

Outside his height, the most complete, proportioned bodybuilder ever....no weaknesses...

[Croatch]

Outside his height, the most complete, proportioned bodybuilder ever....no weaknesses...

Quit shmoeing on Shawn Ray videos.  You ready to crush some weight punk!
haah

[Wiggs]

Quit shmoeing on Shawn Ray videos.  You ready to crush some weight punk!
haah

take it easy, I'm trying to gather my wits about so I don't look totally pathetic...lol

[Bones]

Outside his height, the most complete, proportioned bodybuilder ever....no weaknesses...

  I agree..there was more then one Mr."O" show that should of been his.

[JP_RC]

I've been around bodybuilding whether through internet, gyms etc for 15 years...In all that time, I've never heard even rumors about what Shawn Ray took...We know how he diets and trains but never any guesses on what he took and the amounts...well except the Winstrol that dq'd him from the Arnold...

I imagine it wasn't that much not only because his size but he's not a reckless guy and valued his health...

In the late 90s up till 2001 when he retired his waist widened and he wasn't as sharp as he was from 93-96 so I'm guessing there was a change in the protocol there...I'd guess he was more a parabolin, primobolan, winstrol, anavar, masteron, eq, low dose gh and test suspension guy in his prime...more of anabolic vs. androgenic guy.

Your thoughts.

BTW current pros could learn alot from Shawn, while he was a whiny little, cheap asshole (back then)...Dude did everything right (tons of mag covers, lots of sponsors, well spoken and professional) and did things his way and though he never won an Olympia (robbed, but that's another thread) he earned a great living didn't sacrifice his health and wore regular clothes and not look like a clown...

If he or anybody else would've said anything regarding this, then no one would've believed it anyway. That's the big problem with this issue, everyone out there wants to believe all pros use insane amounts of gear when some of them don't. Look at all the crap Lee Priest gets from all the internet warriors, he told about what he uses and since its not much then everbody cries he is lying. Dillet got the same crap.

[Jaime]

If he or anybody else would've said anything regarding this, then no one would've believed it anyway. That's the big problem with this issue, everyone out there wants to believe all pros use insane amounts of gear when some of them don't. Look at all the crap Lee Priest gets from all the internet warriors, he told about what he uses and since its not much then everbody cries he is lying. Dillet got the same crap.

What did Lee say? That he took about 200mg of primo for about two weeks leading up to comp?  

[Stavios]

If he or anybody else would've said anything regarding this, then no one would've believed it anyway. That's the big problem with this issue, everyone out there wants to believe all pros use insane amounts of gear when some of them don't. Look at all the crap Lee Priest gets from all the internet warriors, he told about what he uses and since its not much then everbody cries he is lying. Dillet got the same crap.

When we say he didn'T take much, I am thinking about 2g of drugs total a week !

not the 200mg a week bullshit that Lee Priest claims

that's a big difference

[JP_RC]

What did Lee say? That he took about 200mg of primo for about two weeks leading up to comp?  

This is exactly what I meant with my post.

[JP_RC]

When we say he didn'T take much, I am thinking about 2g of drugs total a week !

not the 200mg a week bullshit that Lee Priest claims

that's a big difference

From what I've read, Lee said he never went over 500mg of anything a week offseason. Precontest if I remember correctly he uses some other things too according to what I read in an interview he did.

[claymore]

Outside his height, the most complete, proportioned bodybuilder ever....no weaknesses...

Agreed

[Jaime]

This is exactly what I meant with my post.

lol have you ever trained?

[JP_RC]

lol have you ever trained?

Yes and I still do. Do you?

[Meso_z]

one of the greats...

[Jaime]

Yes and I still do. Do you?

I just find the naivety amusing.

[nolotil]

amazing ,, tip top bodybuilder,, one of the best of all time,, very very smart in regards to his nutrition and training.

part of the peak generation of bodubyudiling,,.

[JP_RC]

I just find the naivety amusing.

If you want to believe all pros use massive amounts its all good.

If you want to believe everything gh15 says go for it.

[Cleanest Natural]

Shawn used as much as the guy next to him ...


Did he ABUSE slin/gh ? NO

BUT THE AAS was there nonetheless

I have shawn at 3000 mg weekly plus hgh

[Stavios]

Shawn used as much as the guy next to him ...


Did he ABUSE slin/gh ? NO

BUT THE AAS was there nonetheless

I have shawn at 3000 mg weekly plus hgh

yeah that would be about right IMO

[Jaime]

If you want to believe all pros use massive amounts its all good.

If you want to believe everything gh15 says go for it.

GH15 is a fucking idiot.

99% of pro's megadose though, especially nowadays.

Shawn just didn't abuse slin and HGH, he was probably still hitting the AAs pretty heavy.

Someone like Priest looks extremely unhealthy and was probably near the top knowing his personality.