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Just look at what he has done since taking office:
- Government control of the healthcare system.
- Someone told me the bill includes a requirement for a National ID card and access to bank accounts and personal records. Is this true?
- The federal government has taken over the automobile, mortgage, and banking industries.
- The federal government has taken control of student loans.
- Obama wants to cap private sector salaries.
- Obama wants to give amnesty to illegal aliens.
I know people have thrown around the communist label mainly as a pejorative, but his actions appear to be leading to one conclusion. :-\
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piece of worthless pile of shit communist is the correct term
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He's not a Communist. He's just another puppet. Don't worry about him, the billionare club has him on a short leash and they are keeping him well-behaved.
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All you have to do is look at his mentors and readings, he most definately a communist.
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All you have to do is look at his mentors and readings, he most definately a communist.
Most politicians are interested in Communism, as well as Conservatism, Socialism, Libertarianism, etc.
Most politicians are very well educated and have rounded views of political systems.
They just say I AM A CONSERVATIVE or I AM A LIBERAL in order to be a successful politician. They are just playing the game. Most of these guys real views on things are a lot more complex and deep than what they speak on in public.
They are just playing the game of politics. And 95% of what they say and do is bullshit. You have to look way below the surface.
I still remember the conservative Colorado Senator I knew. He was as right wing conservative as it gets, but in his private life he was straight up GAY. Dating men and doing all that stuff. His conservative persona in public was a pure act, just to climb the political ladder.
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Most politicians are interested in Communism, as well as Conservatism, Socialism, Libertarianism, etc.
Most politicians are very well educated and have rounded views of political systems.
They just say I AM A CONSERVATIVE or I AM A LIBERAL in order to be a successful politician. They are just playing the game. Most of these guys real views on things are a lot of complex and deep than what they speak on in public.
They are just playing the game of politics. And 95% of what they say and do is bullshit. You have to look way below the surface.
I still remember the conservative Colorado Senator I knew. He was as right wing consertvative as it gets, but in his private life he was straight up GAY. Dating men and doing all that stuff. His conservative persona in public was a pure act, just to climb the political ladder.
He literally follows the outline of Saul Alinski to almost a T.
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He literally follows the outline of Saul Alinski to almost a T.
Perhaps he does, but what you have to understand is that he is not acting on his own free will.
He is constantly having meeting with top bankers, billionares, and other members of the global elite. And together they are all forming strategies about what they want to get done. Even most of the Republicans are on the same page as him right now, even though they act like they are against everything Obama is doing.
If you think that a President will just walk into the White House and do whatever he wants, you don't know politics. The president has to walk a very thin line. And Obama is just the scapegoat for the changes that other people want to see.
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Rules for Radicals
By Saul Alinsky - 1971
Hillary Clinton's 1969 Political Science Thesis ("There is Only the Fight") refers to an earlier version of Alinsky’s training manual. "In 1946,” she wrote, "Alinsky's first book, Reveille for Radicals, was published."
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Conspiracies- Past & Present
Background information
"Obama learned his lesson well. I am proud to see that my father's model for organizing is being applied successfully beyond local community organizing to affect the Democratic campaign in 2008. It is a fine tribute to Saul Alinsky as we approach his 100th birthday." --Letter from L. DAVID ALINSKY, son of Neo-Marxist Saul Alinsky
Obama helped fund 'Alinsky Academy': "The Woods Fund, a nonprofit on which Obama served as paid director from 1999 to December 2002, provided startup funding and later capital to the Midwest Academy.... Obama sat on the Woods Fund board alongside William Ayers, founder of the Weather Underground domestic terrorist organization.... 'Midwest describes itself as 'one of the nation's oldest and best-known schools for community organizations, citizen organizations and individuals committed to progressive social change.'... Midwest teaches Alinsky tactics of community organizing."
Hillary, Obama and the Cult of Alinsky: "True revolutionaries do not flaunt their radicalism, Alinsky taught. They cut their hair, put on suits and infiltrate the system from within. Alinsky viewed revolution as a slow, patient process. The trick was to penetrate existing institutions such as churches, unions and political parties.... Many leftists view Hillary as a sell-out because she claims to hold moderate views on some issues. However, Hillary is simply following Alinsky’s counsel to do and say whatever it takes to gain power.
"Obama is also an Alinskyite.... Obama spent years teaching workshops on the Alinsky method. In 1985 he began a four-year stint as a community organizer in Chicago, working for an Alinskyite group called the Developing Communities Project.... Camouflage is key to Alinsky-style organizing. While trying to build coalitions of black churches in Chicago, Obama caught flak for not attending church himself. He became an instant churchgoer." (By Richard Poe, 11-27-07)
Opening page - Dedication
“Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to
the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history... the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer.”
Prologue
"The Revolutionary force today has two targets, moral as well as material. Its young protagonists are one moment reminiscent of the idealistic early Christians, yet they also urge violence and cry, 'Burn the system down!' They have no illusions about the system, but plenty of illusions about the way to change our world. It is to this point that I have written this book."
1. The Purpose
In this book we are concerned with how to create mass organizations to seize power and give it to the people; to realize the democratic dream of equality, justice, peace.... "Better to die on your feet than to live on your knees.' This means revolution." p.3
"Radicals must be resilient, adaptable to shifting political circumstances, and sensitive enough to the process of action and reaction to avoid being trapped by their own tactics and forced to travel a road not of their choosing." p.6
"A Marxist begins with his prime truth that all evils are caused by the exploitation of the proletariat by the capitalists. From this he logically proceeds to the revolution to end capitalism, then into the third stage of reorganization into a new social order of the dictatorship of the proletariat, and finally the last stage -- the political paradise of communism." p.10
"An organizer working in and for an open society is in an ideological dilemma to begin with, he does not have a fixed truth -- truth to him is relative and changing; everything to him is relative and changing.... To the extent that he is free from the shackles of dogma, he can respond to the realities of the widely different situations...." pp.10-11
Notes on Saul Alinsky and Neo-Marxism:
Alinsky's tactics were based, not on Stalin's revolutionary violence, but on the Neo-Marxist strategies of Antonio Gramsci, an Italian Communist. Relying on gradualism, infiltration and the dialectic process rather than a bloody revolution, Gramsci's transformational Marxism was so subtle that few even noticed the deliberate changes.
Like Alinsky, Mikhail Gorbachev followed Gramsci, not Lenin. In fact, Gramsci aroused Stalins's wrath by suggesting that Lenin's revolutionary plan wouldn't work in the West. Instead the primary assault would be on Biblical absolutes and Christian values, which must be crushed as a social force before the new face of Communism could rise and flourish. Malachi Martin gave us a progress report:
"By 1985, the influence of traditional Christian philosophy in the West was weak and negligible.... Gramsci's master strategy was now feasible. Humanly speaking, it was no longer too tall an order to strip large majorities of men and women in the West of those last vestiges that remained to them of Christianity's transcendent God."
2. Of Means and Ends [Forget moral or ethical considerations]
"The end is what you want, the means is how you get it. Whenever we think about social change, the question of means and ends arises. The man of action views the issue of means and ends in pragmatic and strategic terms. He has no other problem; he thinks only of his actual resources and the possibilities of various choices of action. He asks of ends only whether they are achievable and worth the cost; of means, only whether they will work. ... The real arena is corrupt and bloody." p.24
"The means-and-ends moralists, constantly obsessed with the ethics of the means used by the Have-Nots against the Haves, should search themselves as to their real political position. In fact, they are passive — but real — allies of the Haves…. The most unethical of all means is the non-use of any means... The standards of judgment must be rooted in the whys and wherefores of life as it is lived, the world as it is, not our wished-for fantasy of the world as it should be...." pp.25-26
"The third rule of ethics of means and ends is that in war the end justifies almost any means...." p.29
"The seventh rule... is that generally success or failure is a mighty determinant of ethics...." p.34
"The tenth rule... is you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral garments.... It involves sifting the multiple factors which combine in creating the circumstances at any given time... Who, and how many will support the action?... If weapons are needed, then are appropriate d weapons available? Availability of means determines whether you will be underground or above ground; whether you will move quickly or slowly..." p.36
Notes: Apparently, Michelle Obama referred to these words during her Democratic National Convention speech:
"She said, 'Barack stood up that day,' talking about a visit to Chicago neighborhoods, 'and spoke words that have stayed with me ever since. He talked about 'The world as it is' and 'The world as it should be…' And, 'All of us driven by a simple belief that the world as it is just won't do – that we have an obligation to, fight for the world as it should be."
Do you wonder who -- or whose values -- should determine what "the world... should be?"
4. The Education of the Organizer
"To the organizer, imagination... is the dynamism that starts and sustains him in his whole life of action as an organizer. It ignites and feeds the force that drives him to organize for change....
"The organizer knows that the real action is in the reaction of the opposition. To realistically appraise and anticipate the probable reactions of the enemy, he must be able to identify with them, too, in his imagination, and foresee their reactions to his actions....
"The organizers searching with a free and open mind void of certainty, hating dogma, finds laughter not just a way to maintain his sanity but also a key to understanding life."pp.74-75
"...the organizer must be able to split himself into two parts -- one part in the arena of action where he polarizes the issue to 100 to nothing, and helps to lead his forces into conflict, while the other part knows that when the time comes for negotiations that it really is only a 10 percent difference." p.78
"...the organizer is constantly creating new out of the old. He knows that all new ideas arise from conflict; [See Dialectic Process] that every time man as had a new idea it has been a challenge to the sacred ideas of the past and the present and inevitably a conflict has raged." p.79
5. Communication [Notice the emphasis on conflict, dialogue, relationships, etc. Team "service" is essential to building strong relationships through "common involvements"]
"And so the guided questioning goes on without anyone losing face or being left out of the decision-making. Every weakness of every proposed tactic is probed by questions.... Is this manipulation? Certainly...." p.88
"One of the factors that changes what you can and can't communicate is relationships. There are sensitive areas that one does not touch until there is a strong personal relationship based on common involvements. Otherwise the other party turns off and literally does not hear....
"Conversely, if you have a good relationship, he is very receptive.... For example, I have always believed that birth control and abortion are personal rights to be exercised by the individual. If, in my early days when I organized... neighborhood in Chicago, which was 95 per cent Roman Catholic, I had tried to communicate this, even through the experience of the residents, whose economic plight was aggravated by large families, that would have been the end of my relationship with the community. That instant I would have been stamped as an enemy of the church and all communication would have ceased.
"Some years later, after establishing solid relationships, I was free to talk about anything.... By then the argument was no longer limited to such questions as, 'How much longer do you think the Catholic Church can hang on to this archaic notion and still survive?' ...the subject and nature of the discussion would have been unthinkable without that solid relationship." pp.93-94
6. In the Beginning: The Process of Power [Notice the compromise needed to build the power base. Yet, since pragmatism has eroded all values, it's simply a matter of ends justifying means. It's not unlike churches that attract members through the world's entertainment -- then continue to soften or hide Truth in order to keep them happy and lure more. ]
"From the moment the organizer enters a community he lives, dreams... only one thing and that is to build the mass power base of what he calls the army. Until he has developed that mass power base, he confronts no major issues.... Until he has those means and power instruments, his 'tactics' are very different from power tactics. Therefore, every move revolves around one central point: how many recruits will this bring into the organization, whether by means of local organizations, churches, service groups, labor Unions, corner gangs, or as individuals."
"Change comes from power, and power comes from organization." p.113
"The first step in community organization is community disorganization. The disruption of the present organization is the first step toward community organization. Present arrangements must be disorganized if they are to be displace by new patterns.... All change means disorganization of the old and organization of the new." p.116
"An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent... He must create a mechanism that can drain off the underlying guilt for having accepted the previous situation for so long a time. Out of this mechanism, a new community organization arises....
"The job then is getting the people to move, to act, to participate; in short, to develop and harness the necessary power to effectively conflict with the prevailing patterns and change them. When those prominent in the status quo turn and label you an 'agitator' they are completely correct, for that is, in one word, your function—to agitate to the point of conflict." p.117
"Process tells us how. Purpose tells us why. But in reality, it is academic to draw a line between them, they are part of a continuum.... Process is really purpose." p.122
7. Tactics
"Tactics are those conscious deliberate acts by which human beings live with each other and deal with the world around them. ... Here our concern is with the tactic of taking; how the Have-Nots can take power away from the Haves." p.126
Always remember the first rule of power tactics (pps.127-134):
1. "Power is not only what you have, but what the enemy thinks you have."
2. "Never go outside the expertise of your people. When an action or tactic is outside the experience of the people, the result is confusion, fear and retreat.... [and] the collapse of communication.
3. "Whenever possible, go outside the expertise of the enemy. Look for ways to increase insecurity, anxiety and uncertainty. (This happens all the time. Watch how many organizations under attack are blind-sided by seemingly irrelevant arguments that they are then forced to address.)
4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules. You can kill them with this, for they can no more obey their own rules than the Christian church can live up to Christianity."
5. "Ridicule is man's most potent weapon. It is almost impossible to counteract ridicule. Also it infuriates the opposition, which then reacts to your advantage."
6. "A good tactic is one your people enjoy."
7. "A tactic that drags on too long becomes a drag. Man can sustain militant interest in any issue for only a limited time...."
8. "Keep the pressure on, with different tactics and actions, and utilize all events of the period for your purpose."
9. "The threat is usually more terrifying than the thing itself."
10. "The major premise for tactics is the development of operations that will maintain a constant pressure upon the opposition. It is this unceasing pressure that results in the reactions from the opposition that are essential for the success of the campaign."
11. "If you push a negative hard and deep enough, it will break through into its counterside... every positive has its negative."
12. "The price of a successful attack is a constructive alternative."
13. Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. In conflict tactics there are certain rules that [should be regarded] as universalities. One is that the opposition must be singled out as the target and 'frozen.'...
"...any target can always say, 'Why do you center on me when there are others to blame as well?' When your 'freeze the target,' you disregard these [rational but distracting] arguments.... Then, as you zero in and freeze your target and carry out your attack, all the 'others' come out of the woodwork very soon. They become visible by their support of the target...'
"One acts decisively only in the conviction that all the angels are on one side and all the devils on the other." (pps.127-134)
Alinsky's Rules for Radicals: "Known as the 'father of modern American radicalism,' Saul D. Alinsky (1909-1972) developed strategies and tactics that take the enormous, unfocused emotional energy of grassroots groups and transform it into effective anti-government and anti-corporate activism. ... Some of these rules are ruthless, but they work."
Notes from an article by Phyllis Schalfly titled "Alinski's Rules: Must Reading In Obama Era," posted at www.ibdeditorials.com/IBDArticles.aspx?id=318470857908277 (2-2-09)
"Alinsky's second chapter, called Of Means and Ends, craftily poses many difficult moral dilemmas, and his 'tenth rule of the ethics of means and ends' is: 'you do what you can with what you have and clothe it with moral arguments.' He doesn't ignore traditional moral standards or dismiss them as unnecessary. He is much more devious; he teaches his followers that 'Moral rationalization is indispensable at all times of action whether to justify the selection or the use of ends or means.'...
"The qualities Alinsky looked for in a good organizer were:
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ego ("reaching for the highest level for which man can reach — to create, to be a 'great creator,' to play God"),
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curiosity (raising "questions that agitate, that break through the accepted pattern"),
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irreverence ("nothing is sacred"; the organizer "detests dogma, defies any finite definition of morality"),
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imagination ("the fuel for the force that keeps an organizer organizing"),
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a sense of humor ("the most potent weapons known to mankind are satire and ridicule"), and an
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organized personality with confidence in presenting the right reason for his actions only "as a moral rationalization after the right end has been achieved.'...
"'The organizer's first job is to create the issues or problems,' and 'organizations must be based on many issues.' The organizer 'must first rub raw the resentments of the people of the community; fan the latent hostilities of many of the people to the point of overt expression. He must search out controversy and issues, rather than avoid them, for unless there is controversy people are not concerned enough to act. . . . An organizer must stir up dissatisfaction and discontent.'"
http://www.crossroad.to/Quotes/communism/alinsky.htm
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You are missing the point.
It DOES NOT MATTER what Obama's views are. His presidency is all part of a plan. Everything he does is controlled. It has been ever since long before he was even elected.
You honestly believe The President simply gets elected and does what he pleases? Absolutely not, it is all strategized by very, very intelligent and educated people. Everything about Barack Obama is like a movie. He is the actor and he is playing his part.
So now we have Obama in the White House, making lots of changes, and everyone is blaming him and the Liberals. But they are just puppets and scapegoats. The puppet masters are the worlds billionares and old money elites. All the changes that Obama is making are being backed by the world's elites. And their goals go far beyond this liberal and conservative bullshit.
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I said this before and I'll say it again...No American knows what it is like to live under a far left system of governance...the result being when someone centre left like obama comes along he gets labelled a Communist. The far left are a bunch of morons that's for sure, but I garuntee you having seen what a far left wing government is like, Obama is nowhere near that.
He is not a communist or a socialist or anything close to it, granted he's more left wing than I am, but I think the fact that most socialists I have met dont have a good word to say about Obama would probably proove the point somewhat.
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Of course he is a communist. I cant even believe we are stillhaving this debate. However, he is contrained by his monied puppet masters like soros, goldman sachs, jp morgan, etc. Neverthless, if you look at the following, I still dont see how one can reach any other conclusion.
1. Father and mother were marxists.
2. His mentor was a communist.
3. He "sought out the marxist professors and radicals" in college.
4. He befriended communists like Ayeres, Dohrn, etc.
5. He sat in a radical church based on marxist theology for 20 years.
6. Was a member of the socialist party at one time on the past.
7. Communist czars like van jones, sunstein, holdren, dunn, and wright.
8. "Spread the wealth"
9. Bank, health care, auto, school loan, energy takeover.
10. Associations with ACORN, SEIU, andy stern, etc.
11. Said the constitution is deeply flawed because it does not resdistribute the wealth in socienty.
You guys want more?
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I said this before and I'll say it again...No American knows what it is like to live under a far left system of governance...the result being when someone centre left like obama comes along he gets labelled a Communist. The far left are a bunch of morons that's for sure, but I garuntee you having seen what a far left wing government is like, Obama is nowhere near that.
He is not a communist or a socialist or anything close to it, granted he's more left wing than I am, but I think the fact that most socialists I have met dont have a good word to say about Obama would probably proove the point somewhat.
Exactly. America is full of people who are not well traveled and just don't know what the fuck they are talking about....basically. Just local yocals.
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Exactly. America is full of people who are not well traveled and just don't know what the fuck they are talking about....basically. Just local yocals.
Perhaps he is a communist at heart and a NWO puppet at the same time?
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Perhaps he is a communist at heart and a NWO puppet at the same time?
He's definitely a puppet. And he probably does have some radical leftist views, but he will never be able to act on them. If he acted out too much, he would have the same fate as JFK or Lincoln.
Everything he does is tightly controlled.
Unfortunately, the people controlling things at the top don't give a fuck about any of us.
Good luck to us all.
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He's definitely a puppet. And he probably does have some radical leftist views, but he will never be able to act on them. If he acted out too much, he would have the same fate as JFK or Lincoln.
Everything he does is tightly controlled.
Unfortunately, the people controlling things at the top don't give a fuck about any of us.
Good luck to us all.
Did you ever read Creature from Jekyll Island? If not, do so asap.
Second, check out this video. KRS is a master and hit the nail on the head.
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Did you ever read Creature from Jekyll Island? If not, do so asap.
Second, check out this video. KRS is a master and hit the nail on the head.
Damn, 999th time you posted that shit..
enough with this KRS 1 shit
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He's one of the NWO's best sales people that is for sure..
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Maybe he never saw it asshole.
Celente nails exactly what is going on.
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Damn, 999th time you posted that shit..
enough with this KRS 1 shit
Yeah KRS One is awesome. I saw him live a couple times.
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Yeah KRS One is awesome. I saw him live a couple times.
I'm from the boogie down and grew up on BDP. KRS tells it like is on most topics.
Ship - go get that book I listed. You will thoroughly enjoy it.
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I'm from the boogie down and grew up on BDP. KRS tells it like is on most topics.
Ship - go get that book I listed. You will thoroughly enjoy it.
Send him the ebook..So he won't feel so bad having wasted that money like me...
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Send him the ebook..So he won't feel so bad having wasted that money like me...
What part of that book did you not like? The amazon rating on that book is probably 4.90 /5 so you are in the tiny minority of people who didnt like it.
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Send him the ebook..So he won't feel so bad having wasted that money like me...
Agreed. Also i'm living in some backwoods corner of Asia right now and it's expensive to get things sent out here.
I'll check it out for sure though man.
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What part of that book did you not like? The amazon rating on that book is probably 4.90 /5 so you are in the tiny minority of people who didnt like it.
it's more convenient to listen to it on the ipod, on the way to work in the morning...
Why waste money if you don't have to..
Save the extra money for health insurance and taxes
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Agreed. Also i'm living in some backwoods corner of Asia right now and it's expensive to get things sent out here.
I'll check it out for sure though man.
I think you can find it for free. I personally like reading a physical book over the computer. There are also you tube clips of it and the author Griffin.
Nicky doesnt like it because it is a little CT'ish.
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it's more convenient to listen to it on the ipod, on the way to work in the morning...
Why waste money if you don't have to..
Save the extra money for health insurance and taxes
I like reading a physical book. It sticks in my memory better. Also, I like listening to the fire breathers on talk radio on the way to work in the morning instead. ;D ;D
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I like reading a physical book. It sticks in my memory better. Also, I like listening to the fire breathers on talk radio on the way to work in the morning instead. ;D ;D
Didn't Obama say your not a good american if you listen to Rush & company...
however, the fed wasn't bad...I listened to it...helped Ty-in a lot of CT's together
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Poll: 40% Think Obama Is a Socialist
Thursday, 25 Mar 2010
By: Jennifer Harper
Certain robust public perceptions about President Obama have surfaced among average citizens rather than so-called "wingnuts" and "lunatic fringe."
A Harris Poll released Wednesday found that 40 percent of Americans say Mr. Obama is a socialist, a third think he's a Muslim, a quarter think he was not even born in the U.S., is not eligible to be president and is a "domestic enemy that the U.S. Constitution speaks of."
The pollster asked provocative questions indeed, with equally provocative findings.
Special: Is Obama a Socialist? Do You Agree With the 40 percent? Vote Here Now.
Among other things, the poll also found that three-out-of-10 Americans think Mr. Obama "wants to turn over the sovereignty of the U.S. to a one-world government." About an equal number - 29 percent - said he had "done many things that are unconstitutional" while 27 percent said "he resents America's heritage."
Between 20 percent and 23 percent said Mr. Obama is "a racist," "anti-American" and "is doing many of the things that Hitler did." Fourteen percent went so far as to agree that Mr. Obama "may be the anti-Christ" while 13 percent said "he wants the terrorists to win."
Predictably, there was a huge partisan divide. For example, 67 percent of both Republicans and conservatives said Mr. Obama was a socialist, compared with 14 percent of Democrats and 15 percent of liberals.
"The very large numbers of people who believe all these things of President Obama help to explain the size and strength of the 'tea party movement,' a topic that will be addressed in another Harris Poll in a few days time," said Harris Poll Chairman Humphrey Taylor.
"These new numbers are shocking but not surprising - they detail the extent to which 'wingnuts' are hijacking our politics. This poll should be a wake-up call to all Americans about the real costs of using fear and hate to pump up hyper-partisanship," John Avlon, author of "Wingnuts: How the Lunatic Fringe Is Hijacking America" told the Harris pollster.
"We are playing with dynamite by demonizing our president and dividing our country in the process. Americans need to remember the perspective that Wingnuts always forget - patriotism is more important than partisanship," Mr. Avlon said.
The findings garnered other critical - as well as comedic - reactions.
ABC News polling director Gary Langer questioned the "highly manipulative" and "unbalanced" polling practices in the survey of 2,320 adults, conducted online March 1-8.
The Hartford Courant newspaper assembled its own mock poll, quipping that "Republicans believe Obama is from Lovetron and therefore not eligible to be president." The poll also inspired late night comic and talk show host Jimmy Kimmel.
"Thirty eight percent believe hes like Hitler? How is that possible? He doesnt even have a mustache?" Mr. Kimmel demanded.
"MSNBC repeatedly hammered the incendiary findings of the Harris poll," said Scott Whitlock, an analyst at the conservative Media Research Center.
Anchors David Shuster and Dylan Ratigan pondered the findings. Mr. Shuster eventually said the poll suggested "that general hatred of President Obama on the right - which may be fueling the lunatic fringe - is more widespread than previously thought."
Mr. Whitlock questioned their close attention to the survey.
"One has to ask, why would MSNBC be so fascinated by the findings of an online poll? The Harris survey definitely paints Republicans and conservatives in a bad light. And that might account for MSNBC's intense interest," Mr. Whitlock said.
http://newsmax.com/InsideCover/Poll-40percent-Obama-Socialist/2010/03/25/id/353810
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rhetorical question? ;D
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No, not a communist. Just the standard fearmongering from the opposite sides of the political aisle. It wasn't so long ago when all people heard was how evil and conniving Bush and Cheney were in regards to false-flag attacks, suspending elections, setting up wars, and the evil plot by Granddad Prescott Bush to overthrow FDR. The news would broadcast all day the various anti-war rallies held everywhere. We still have two wars going on, where are the rallies at now? Bush Dubya is only mentioned when the financial mess blame is handed out.
This is funny. I see several people stating that Obama is a puppet of billionaires and other global power elites. Name them. In what way and how are they controlling Obama? I'm hardpressed to come up with an answer to how the hell would Obama even have the time to being "brainwashed" by these nameless global elites with just the normal routines that a president does. Then, I see another post where someone claims(and truthfully so) that 95% of what you see from a politician is bullshit, a front. A lot of the shit I'm seeing here in regards to all the conspiracy-theory stuff regarding Obama looks as if it comes out of a science fiction movie. I don't agree with a lot of his policies and views and have an even less favorable view of those he surrounds himself with, but c'mon now...a puppet controlled by lizard-people? ;D
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Soros, Buffet, Dimon, Blankfein et al.
Just look at who bankrolled his campaign.
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From Andrew Napolitano:
He believes American is in danger of becoming "a fascist country," which he defines as "private ownership, but government control." He adds, "The government doesn't have the money to own anything. But it has the force and the threat of violence to control just about anything it wants. That will rapidly expand under President Obama, unless and until the midterm elections give us a midterm correction – which everyone seems to think, and I'm in that group, is about to come our way.
http://newsmax.com/Headline/Andrew-Napolitano-barack-obama/2010/03/26/id/354008
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From Andrew Napolitano:
He believes American is in danger of becoming "a fascist country," which he defines as "private ownership, but government control." He adds, "The government doesn't have the money to own anything. But it has the force and the threat of violence to control just about anything it wants. That will rapidly expand under President Obama, unless and until the midterm elections give us a midterm correction – which everyone seems to think, and I'm in that group, is about to come our way.
http://newsmax.com/Headline/Andrew-Napolitano-barack-obama/2010/03/26/id/354008
Beach, elections dont matter anymore. The infrastructure is being put into place that no matter who is elected it doesnt matter anymore.
Serious, lets say the gop takes over the congress and has a slim majority. What could they possibly get done? Answer - nothing.
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Beach, elections dont matter anymore. The infrastructure is being put into place that no matter who is elected it doesnt matter anymore.
Serious, lets say the gop takes over the congress and has a slim majority. What could they possibly get done? Answer - nothing.
True, although if the House and Senate are split they'll do less damage.
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True, although if the House and Senate are split they'll do less damage.
Check this out
www.usdebtclock.org
Its over.
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Check this out
www.usdebtclock.org
Its over.
Geeze Louise. :-\
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Just look at what he has done since taking office:
- Government control of the healthcare system.
- Someone told me the bill includes a requirement for a National ID card and access to bank accounts and personal records. Is this true?
- The federal government has taken over the automobile, mortgage, and banking industries.
- The federal government has taken control of student loans.
- Obama wants to cap private sector salaries.
- Obama wants to give amnesty to illegal aliens.
I know people have thrown around the communist label mainly as a pejorative, but his actions appear to be leading to one conclusion. :-\
wait, I gotta ask. Under Bush you were not against the National ID card and it took talking about how much it will cost the taxpayers to get any concern from you. Now the National ID is an sign of communism?
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Whats the BIG deal with getting a National ID card?
I have a passport and Driver's license, why shouldn't i want to get one?
I agree. We all have social security cards/numbers too.
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If anyone here met obama, would they actually ask him if he is a communist?
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Of course Obama is a Commie
Everyone at Goldman Sachs is also a Commie
Seriously, even Warren Buffet is a Commie
no joke
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Of course Obama is a Commie
Everyone at Goldman Sachs is also a Commie
Seriously, even Warren Buffet is a Commie
no joke
I assume your being sarcastic with your comment about Goldman
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I assume your being sarcastic with your comment about Goldman
who at Goldman Sachs walked out on principle of the bailout? Who at Goldman road the wave knowing full well where it would go? Straw said "no joke" I agree with him. No joke, they knew what they were doing and if we're to call Obama a socialist... I don't see how you escape including them.
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Right Straw - because Wall Street has never financed communists in the past. ::) ::) ::)
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Wall Street funded Communists
Professor Sutton stated, "Western textbooks on Soviet economic development omit any description of the economic and financial aid given to the 1917 Revolution and subsequent economic development by Western Firms and banks." "In the Bolshevik Revolution we have some of the world's richest and most powerful men financing a movement which claims its very existence is based on the concept of stripping of their wealth," declared Allen. "[M]en like the Rothschilds, Rockefellers, Schiffs, Warburgs, Morgans, Harrimans, and Milners."
Perloff agreed, "Jacob Schiff, the head of Kuhn, Loeb and Co., heavily bankrolled the [Communist] revolution. This was reported by White Russian General Arsine de Goulevitch in his book Czarism and the Revolution." "According to his grandson John," described Allen, "Jacob Schiff ... long-time associate of the Rothschilds, financed the Communist Revolution in Russia to the tune of $20 million." He continued, "According to a report on file with the State Department, his firm, Kuhn Loeb and Co. bankrolled the first five year plan for Stalin," and added, "Schiff's descendents are active in the Council on Foreign Relations today."
Referring to the emergence of a communist dictatorship which resulted from the Bolshevik Revolution in 1917, Professor Marrs wrote that they were funded by "Germany and America. ... Their repugnant campaign to purify and cleanse Mother Russia and to seek world domination resulted in ... [millions of] human beings wiped out and brutally purged..." He attested, "Brown Brothers Harriman" helped finance it with "money made possible by it and the affiliated Guaranty Trust Company." Professor Sutton agreed, writing "W. Averell Harriman was a director of Guaranty Trust Company" and "was involved in the Bolshevik Revolution."
On February 3, 1949, the New York Journal-American stated, "Today it is estimated even by Jacob's grandson, John Schiff, a prominent member of New York Society, that the old man sank about $20,000,000 for the final triumph of Bolshevism in Russia. Other New York banking firms also contributed."
Referring to a June 15, 1933, Congressional Record, Allen wrote "Congressman Louis McFadden, chairman of the House Banking Committee, maintained in a speech to his fellow Congressman: "The Soviet government has been given United States Treasure funds by the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve Banks acting through the Chase Bank and the Guaranty Trust Company and other banks in New York City. ... Open up the books of Amtorg, the trading organization of the Soviet government in New York, and of Gostorg, the general office of the Soviet Trade Organization, and of the State Bank of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and you will be staggered to see how much American money has been taken from the United States' Treasury for the benefit of Russia."
"Now our textbooks tell us that the Nazis and Soviets were bitter enemies and their systems are opposites," observed Professor Sutton. But in the "1920s, W. Averell Harriman was a prime supporter of the Soviets with finance and diplomatic assistance ... [and] participated in RUSKOMBANK," which was "the first Soviet commercial bank. Furthermore, Max May, the Vice President of Guaranty Trust, which was dominated by Harriman and Morgan, became the first Vice-President of Ruskombank." However, declared Professor Sutton, "Averell Harriman, his brother Roland Harriman, and ... E.S. James and Knight Woolley, through the Union Bank ... were prime financial backers of Hitler." He asked, "How could a rational man support Soviets and Nazis at the same time?"
A curious dilemma arises when faced with the documented fact that Wall Street funded both Communists and Nazis. First, it would seem these two forms of government are at opposite ends of the political spectrum. And that capitalists would see them as a threat to their growth. Allen provides a possible answer, writing, "But obviously these men have no fear of international Communism. It is only logical to assume that if they financed it, and are willing--even eager--to cooperate with it, it must be because they control it. Can there be another explanation that makes sense?" He adds, "Remember that for over 100 years it has been a standard operating procedure of the Rockefellers and their allies to control both sides of every conflict."
Before Winston Churchill became Prime Minister of Great Britain, he acknowledged a conscious effort of wealthy people to install a communist dictatorship in Russia. He wrote in the February 18th, 1920 issue of the London Illustrated Sunday Herald, that "From the days of Spartacus [Adam] Weishaupt ... to those of Karl Marx, to those of Trotsky, Bella Kuhn, Rose Luxembourg, and Emma Goldman, this world-wide conspiracy has been steadily growing." He affirmed, "It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century; and now at last, this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
After the Bolshevik Revolution, Wall Street ensured the communists would retain control of Russia. Professor Sutton described this effort when he wrote, "On may 1st, 1918, when the Bolsheviks controlled only a small fraction of Russia (and were to come near to losing even that fraction in the summer of 1918), the American League to Aid and Cooperate with Russia was organized in Washington, D.C to support the Bolsheviks. This was not a 'Hands off Russia' type of committee formed by the Communist Party U.S.A or its allies. It was a committee created by Wall Street with George P. Whalen of Vacuum Oil Company as Treasurer and Coffin and Oudin of General Electric, along with Thompson of the Federal Reserve System, Willard of the Baltimore and Ohio Railroad, and assorted socialists."
"The Bolsheviks were not a visible political force at the time the Czar abdicated," Allen wrote. "And they came to power not because of the downtrodden masses of Russia called them back, but because very powerful men in Europe and the United States sent them in. "They [Lenin and Trotsky] joined up, and, by November, though bribery, cunning, brutality and deception, they were able (not to bring the masses rallying to their cause, but) to hire enough thugs and make enough deals to impose out of the gun barrel what Lenin called 'all power to the Soviets.'"
"Having created their colony in Russia," said Allen, "the Rockefellers and their allies have struggled mightily ever since to keep it alive. Beginning in 1918 this clique has been engaged in transferring money and, probably more important, technical information to the Soviet Union." Perloff agreed, writing, "Probably no name symbolized capitalism more than Rockefeller. Yet that family has for decades supplied trade and credit to Communist nations. After the Bolsheviks took power, the Rockefellers' Standard Oil of New Jersey bought up Russian oil fields, while Standard Oil of New York built the soviets a refiner and made an arrangement to market their oil in Europe. During the 1920's the Rockefellers' Chase Bank helped found the American-Russian Chamber of Commerce, and was involved in financing Soviet raw material exports and selling Soviet bonds in the U.S."
According to Senator Barry Goldwater, Chase Manhattan built a truck factory in Russia which could also be used to produce armored vehicles such as tanks and even rocket launchers. Perloff echoed, "American technology helped the Soviets construct the $5 billion Kama River truck factory ... [which was] successfully converted by the Kremlin to military purposes."
Wall Street continued to aid the Russian communists as they supplied the Vietnamese communists that Americans were fighting in Vietnam, says Allen. In the late 60s Rockefeller and other industrialists built synthetic rubber plants and an aluminum factory totaling about 250 million dollars. Professor Sutton observed, "these American capitalists were willing to finance and subsidize the Soviet Union while the Vietnam War was underway, knowing that the Soviets were supplying the other side."
An article appeared in the New York Times on January 16, 1967, which carried the headline, Eaton Joins Rockefellers to Spur Trade with Reds. Perloff summed up the story, "The ensuing story noted that the Rockefellers were teaming up with tycoon Cyrus Eaton, Jr., who was financing for the Soviet block the construction of a $50 million aluminum plant and rubber plants valued at over $200 million." He added, "The Chase, which maintains a branch office at 1 Karl Marx Square in Moscow, has gained notoriety for financing projects behind the Iron Curtain."
Pictured left is Averill Harriman of the CFR (center) with Stalin (right) & Winston Churchill.(*) W. Averill Harriman was made U.S. Ambassador to the USSR in 1941. Allen wrote, "Sutton quotes a report by Averell Harriman to the State Department in June, 1944 as stating: 'Stalin paid tribute to the assistance rendered by the United States to Soviet industry before and during the war.'" "It is not an exaggeration to say that the USSR was made in the USA," observed Allen.
Referring to Professor Sutton's book, Wall Street and the Bolshevik Revolution, he wrote, "No one has even attempted to refute Sutton's almost excessively scholarly works. They can't. But the misinformation machines that compose our mediacracy can ignore Sutton. And they do." The book, added Perloff, "is based on assiduous research, including a deeper probe into State Department files."
Professor Sutton warned, "The synthesis sought by the Establishment is called the New World Order. Without controlled conflict this New World Order will not come about. ... And this is being done with the calculated, managed, use of conflict. ... This explains why the International bankers backed the Nazis, the Soviet Union, [and] North Korea ... against the United States. The 'conflict' ... [builds] profits while pushing the world ever closer to One World Government. The process continues today."
Summary
The evidence that these researchers present, which includes mainstream news and State Department records, suggests that Communist Russia was not only heavily funded by Wall Street, but was the actual creation of Wall Street. The Communist Revolution was instigated by Wall Street. Wall Street continued to build Russia even as they supplied aid to a country that America was at war with. Because they created communist Russia, they must have known about the millions of people being murdered.
[Footnotes]
* Photo taken from the Shadows of Power, by James Perloff.
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wait, I gotta ask. Under Bush you were not against the National ID card and it took talking about how much it will cost the taxpayers to get any concern from you. Now the National ID is an sign of communism?
Actually what I did was ask a question. Depends on the answer to my question.
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None of these people are anything; communists, socialists, capitalists, etc...
They are just greedy, dishonest, disgusting politicians...you don't need a label for that.
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And the rest of my comments from that thread are:
Did someone mention further waste of my tax dollars? Now you have my attention. :) I perused the link. This sounds like national standards for state-issued driver's licenses, not a national ID card issued by the federal government. Part of the war on terror. Did I read that right?
Not really an argument, but I don't take the alarmist viewpoint that this will result in some police state. The cost factor concerns me the most.
But . . . on what basis do we conclude that this will do little to curb terrorism?
And which freedoms might those be? Start with 911. What freedoms have you lost since 911?
The only "freedom" I can think of that has been encroached on--that affects me--is airport hassles. I fly a lot and I hate having to take off my shoes when going through security checkpoints. I hate the moody metal dectectors that only seem to dislike my belt when I'm late for my flight, causing me to run through the airport while holding onto my pants so they don't fall down. I don't like the fact I had to take my driver's license out of my wallet for one picky screener.
Then there was the time I was returning home with Krispy Kreme donuts the other day and the screener asked me if I had any creme filled donuts, serious face and all (cannot check liquids). He had me for a few seconds.
Other than that, I haven't seen the Gestapo at my door.
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Obama can't be a communist...it is being hotly debated that he is or might be the ANTICHRIST...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=325591.0
Cue up music from THE OMEN....
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Obama can't be a communist...it is being hotly debated that he is or might be the ANTICHRIST...
http://www.getbig.com/boards/index.php?topic=325591.0
Cue up music from THE OMEN....
One of the creepiest soundtracks ever.
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One of the creepiest soundtracks ever.
NO DOUBT...My hair is standing on ends just listening to it...lol
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NO DOUBT...My hair is standing on ends just listening to it...lol
Horror movies is my favorite genre of movies and The Omen from 1976 is way up on my list of best of all time.
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Horror movies is my favorite genre of movies and The Omen from 1976 is way up on my list of best of all time.
Here is some of my favorites...
The Omen
The Omen II
The Omen III
The Omen IV
The Exorcist
Poltergeist
Jaws
The AmityVille Horror
Alien
Alien II
Predator
American Werewolf In London
Pumpkin Head
Hitcher
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Here is some of my favorites...
The Omen
The Omen II
The Omen III
The Omen IV
The Exorcist
Poltergeist
Jaws
The AmityVille Horror
Alien
Alien II
Predator
American Werewolf In London
Pumpkin Head
Hitcher
Exorcist was the best horror movie of all time IMHO.
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Ultimate fight of good over evil.
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I wouldn't go as far as to say he's a communist but he is the Antichrist....
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Did you ever read Creature from Jekyll Island? If not, do so asap.
Second, check out this video. KRS is a master and hit the nail on the head.
at 50seconds...yep 9/11 was an inside job...
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Perhaps he does, but what you have to understand is that he is not acting on his own free will.
He is constantly having meeting with top bankers, billionares, and other members of the global elite. And together they are all forming strategies about what they want to get done. Even most of the Republicans are on the same page as him right now, even though they act like they are against everything Obama is doing.
If you think that a President will just walk into the White House and do whatever he wants, you don't know politics. The president has to walk a very thin line. And Obama is just the scapegoat for the changes that other people want to see.
In most cases that's what it boils down to.
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Michele Bachmann: 51% Of Private Economy Controlled By Government. :-\
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Michele Bachmann: 51% Of Private Economy Controlled By Government. :-\
there is so much bullshit in the first 60 seconds of this clip
she used the term "taking over ownership or control of 51% of the US Economy"
is this even remotely true
does the government own 51% of the businesses that you know?
How about 30% or 10%?
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Obama Espoused Radical Views in College [advocated communist revolution!]
Steve Malzberg - WOR News Talk Radio 710 ^ | February 12, 2010 | Ronald Kessler
Dr. John C. Drew, a grant writing consultant in Laguna Niguel, Calif., tells Newsmax he met Obama in 1980 when Obama was a sophomore at Occidental College in Los Angeles. Drew had just graduated from Occidental and was attending graduate school at Cornell University.
During Christmas break, Drew says he was at Grauman-Boss’ home in Palo Alto when Obama came over with Mohammed Hasan Chandoo, his roommate from Pakistan.
“Barack [Obama] and Hasan showed up at the house in a BMW, and then we went to a restaurant together,” Drew says. “We had a nice meal, and then we came back to the house and smoked cigarettes and drank and argued politics.”
For the next several hours, they discussed Marxism.
"He [Obama] was arguing a straightforward Marxist-Leninist class-struggle point of view, which anticipated that there would be a revolution of the working class, led by revolutionaries, who would overthrow the capitalist system and institute a new socialist government that would redistribute the wealth,” says Drew, who says he himself was then a Marxist.
“The idea was basically that wealthy people were exploiting others,” Drew says. “That this was the secret of their wealth, that they weren’t paying others enough for their work, and they were using and taking advantage of other people. He was convinced that a revolution would take place, and it would be a good thing.”
Drew concluded that Obama thought of himself as “part of an intelligent, radical vanguard that was leading the way towards this revolution and towards this new society.” ..."
Referring to Obama’s quote from “Dreams of My Father” that he associated with Marxist professors, Drew says, “What he’s not saying is that he was in 100 percent total agreement with those Marxist professors. When you understand that, Obama’s later associations and policies make more sense, including why he was taken in by Rev. Wright’s ideology.”
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guy who hang around w bama said obama was a hardcore marxist.
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Just look at what he has done since taking office:
- Government control of the healthcare system.
- Someone told me the bill includes a requirement for a National ID card and access to bank accounts and personal records. Is this true?
- The federal government has taken over the automobile, mortgage, and banking industries.
- The federal government has taken control of student loans.
- Obama wants to cap private sector salaries.
- Obama wants to give amnesty to illegal aliens.
I know people have thrown around the communist label mainly as a pejorative, but his actions appear to be leading to one conclusion. :-\
god I forgot how funny this post was
Classic Comedy right there
Kudos to you Bum
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guy who hang around w bama said obama was a hardcore marxist.
Bump.
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Obama to business owners: 'You didn't build that'
Published July 16, 2012
FoxNews.com
President Obama, in a speech to supporters, suggested business owners owe their success to government investment in infrastructure and other projects -- saying “if you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that.”
Obama’s comment Friday during a campaign stop in Roanoke, Va., came just days after he urged Congress to extend tax cuts enacted during the Bush administration only to families earning less than $250,000 annually -- part of his argument that top earners have an obligation to pay more to trim the deficit.
“There are a lot of wealthy, successful Americans who agree with me because they want to give something back,” the president said. “If you’ve been successful, you didn’t get there on your own. You didn’t get there on your own. I’m always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart. There are a lot of smart people out there. It must be because I worked harder than everybody else. Let me tell you something -- there are a whole bunch of hardworking people out there.
“If you were successful, somebody along the line gave you some help. There was a great teacher somewhere in your life. Somebody helped to create this unbelievable American system that we have that allowed you to thrive. Somebody invested in roads and bridges. If you’ve got a business, you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen,” he said. “The Internet didn’t get invented on its own. Government research created the Internet so that all the companies could make money off the Internet.”
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, has pledged a vote on the Obama plan before Congress’ August recess, but whether he has the votes remains unclear. A handful of Democrats – include several facing a tough re-election bid – don’t want to vote on a proposal that would result in a tax increase for some Americans.
Senate Democrats and Republicans wrangled Wednesday over the tax cut extensions, which have emerged as a major campaign issue as GOP candidate Mitt Romney attempts to upend Obama’s re-election bid.
Leaders of the GOP-controlled House want to extend the cuts for all Americans and will almost assuredly reject any plan capping them at the $250,000 income level, or $200,000 for individuals.
The cuts will expire in January.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/07/15/obama-dashes-american-dream-suggests-nobody-achieves-success-alone/?intcmp=trending
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The man is a communist plain and simple.
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'And what do you know?': Business leaders hit back at Obama after he says the wealthy...
dailymail ^ | 7 16 12
Posted on July 16, 2012 8:12:35 PM EDT by InvisibleChurch
America's leading small business association has slammed Barack Obama for showing 'an utter lack of understanding' of the country's entrepreneurs when he told them: 'If you've got a business - you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.'
In a hard-hitting statement to Mail Online, the National Federation of Independent Businesses (NFIB) president Dan Danne said: 'What a disappointment to hear President Obama's revealing comments challenging the significance of America's entrepreneurs.
Mr Danne added: 'His unfortunate remarks over the weekend show an utter lack of understanding and appreciation for the people who take a huge personal risk and work endless hours to start a business and create jobs.'
President Obama said in a speech at the weekend that governments and not individuals create jobs, telling entrepreneurs: 'If you've got a business - you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.'
He added: 'You didn't get there on your own. I'm always struck by people who think, well, it must be because I was just so smart.'...
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
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LOL. unlike Obama , Jesus hated the money changers.
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LOL. unlike Obama , Jesus hated the money changers.
Yup Jesus was anti republican and yet the party always claim him. Fucking hypocrits
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Yes, all true.
Jesus wanted tax cuts for the rich and a huge military budget.
It's in the bible.
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Yes, all true.
Jesus wanted tax cuts for the rich and a huge military budget.
It's in the bible.
I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:23-24
Sounds republican huh?
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I tell you the truth, it is hard for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven. Again I tell you, it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” Matthew 19:23-24
Sounds republican huh?
most of the .00001%ers are democrats.
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July 17, 2012
Nobody Else Made It Happen, Mr. President
By Rob Miller
President Obama unwittingly defined himself as clueless about business in Roanoke late last week:
If you've got a business -- you didn't build that. Somebody else made that happen.
And of course, since you did nothing to build your business, it belongs to "the people" -- along with any wealth or profit derived from it. Pretty much what Lenin had to say about the matter, if you recall.
The president is obviously clueless about what it takes to start a business from scratch, having never done anything remotely like that, since his career has consisted entirely of suckling at the government teat.
But having done it myself a few times, perhaps I should take a stab at enlightening him, and those who unfortunately think like him. The process is quite different from being a well-connected campaign donor who tosses together a green energy scam like Solyndra and can depend on government largess to fund it as a kickback for services rendered.
First, you need to take a look at the marketplace and develop a skill, a service, a product, or an idea that people are willing to pay for. Some people obtain these by working for others, figuring out how to do what the company they're now working for does better, saving up some of their hard-earned money, rolling the dice, and stepping off into space without the safety net of a guaranteed paycheck. Others develop something over time as a part-time income until they feel they have enough business developed and enough of a rep to go it alone, or in partnership with others.
No matter the case, it involves risking all of your assets in exchange for a shot at financial independence. People deny themselves as they squirrel away capital, hit their credit cards, or borrow the money, usually on their homes.
It is one of life's solemn and sometimes scary moments when someone pushes a loan application or an equipment or office lease at you, and you're wondering if you're going to end up being a failure.
You'll always wonder in the beginning whether you did the right thing.
If the business is to be successful, you work long, hard hours, with no guarantee that anything will come of it. If you run a store, you have to be concerned with things like inventory, shoplifting, and cutthroat price-cutting from your larger, already established competitors. If you run a service business, you work with no guarantee you'll be paid for your efforts until the deal closes and your client's check clears the bank.
In the beginning, unless you start out with a boatload of money, you do everything, and if you screw up, it comes out of your pocket -- no one else's. Aside from the actual day-to-day work your business entails, you do the books, you keep the records and pay the fees government requires, you answer the phones, you make the decisions on advertising and marketing, you chase down new business, you deal with vendors and do the ordering (an art in itself), you deal with sales reps seeking to sell you things you usually don't need, you pay the bills, and you sweep up.
In exchange for these fun-filled 15- to 18-hour days, you might make a profit after a few months and be able to start paying your bills out of the proceeds.
If you do all these things well, your business is one of the minority that survives its first year, and you've made enough money to expand a bit, you may be able to hire employees. Yes, at that point you actually might need to supervise and direct others aside from yourself. Make the right hiring decisions, and ideally, you begin to make more money as you put a business team together. Make the wrong one, and aside from losing money, even coming in to work can become hell.
Aside from taking on new jobs like payroll accounting, paying the taxes, paying for worker's compensation insurance, and filing the numerous reports and paperwork government requires, you also take on the job of human resource head and complaint department. Some of your employees will be a joy to work with, and it will be a pleasure to reward them appropriately. Others will simply have you shaking your head in disgust.
In the end, after a few years, if you didn't make too many mistakes at the outset, if you picked the right kind of business at the right time and place, and if fortune favors you, you may have a successful business that provides you and your family a comfortable living.
You'll still work a lot harder than the average 9-to-5 employee, but by then it will have become second nature to you, and you'll be a lot more comfortable walking the tightrope. Usually, you'll wonder why you didn't go into business for yourself years earlier than you did.
Moreover, you'll have the reward of knowing you gambled and won, that you built something with your own hands that belongs to you -- something that you may be able to leave to your children. And that's something no one can take away from you.
Unless it's a wannabe commissar like Barack Obama...who resents you, deep down, because you had the courage and ability to do something he could never have done in a thousand years.
The only way a Barack Obama can get what you have is to steal it. Which is exactly why he's telling people it doesn't belong to you in the first place.
Yes, it really is that simple.
Rob Miller writes for Joshuapundit. His work has appeared in The Jerusalem Post, The Los Angeles Times, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution, The San Francisco Chronicle, American Thinker, Andrew Breitbart's Big Peace, and other publications.
Read more: http://www.americanthinker.com/2012/07/nobody_else_made_it_happen_mr_president.html#ixzz20saX8l62
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Krauthammer Rips Obama's Speech Attacking Business: "Spoken By A Man Who Never Created Or Ran So Much As A Candy Store"
"Spoken by a man who never created or ran so much as a candy store," syndicated columnist and FOX News contributor Charles Krauthammer said in response to President Obama criticizing individual achievements in business this weekend. "And it's completely a straw man argument as if conservatives and Republicans are arguing to disband the fire department and the police department so we could all individually do it on our own. The idea that infrastructure is necessary and good is as old as the republic. It's older than that. The Romans had the Via Appia, and that wasn't exactly a new idea. And they had sewers as well. The question is what are you doing with the money when you build the infrastructure?"
"You heard Obama talking about the moonshot. This was not on that clip, but in that speech. He went through a list of the great achievements that the government has done, the moonshot. Well, Obama is the guy who shut down the moon program, the manned space program so that today we have to outsource our access into space for any American astronaut who wants to go to the space station we have to pay the Russians $50 million a shot," Krauthammer said on the "Special Report" panel tonight.
"He spoke about the invention of the internet, which he neglected to say was the work of Al Gore. In fact, it wasn't the government that invented, when in general it was the defense department, a part of the government. And what's Obama done as he's sprinkled billions of dollars in all of the other departments in government? He's shrunk the defense department. It's now looking at draconian cuts. This is a man who spent a trillion dollars and left not a residue. He could have, for example, done something about the electric grid. He did nothing on that. Instead, he sprinkled the money on cronies on pie in the sky ideological fetishes like solar panels and electric cars. Which is the future, but it ain't here and it's not going to happen. Money that is wasted, it is water on the sand. He did not leave behind a residue of all that and yet he speaks about infrastructure. All of us want to do infrastructure, but real infrastructure, and then leave the rest of life to the private individual and the entrepreneur," Krauthammer said.
"You're fired up about this one?" host Bret Baier asked Krauthammer.
"Occasionally, occasionally Obama gets me somewhat revved. He did it on the weekend. I now have the rest of the week to recover," Krauthammer said.
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Jon Voight: Obama following father’s socialist footsteps
By Hollie McKay
September 24, 2013
LOS ANGELES – Jon Voight, an outspoken supporter of the Republican party for years, says President Obama is taking the country further and further left.
“I have really big difficulties with what it going on, and it is not like I am in the dark… I can see the decisions he has made since he’s been President,” Voight told FOX411 at last week’s Hollywood Reporter Emmy party in West Hollywood. “I said at one point, he is following his father’s footsteps to bring us to socialism and that’s what he is doing. There are no secrets.”
During last year’s GOP convention, the actor also expressed fears regarding Obama and his father’s alleged Marxist ties.
"Well, his father was a Marxist — of course he was influenced by it,” Voight told Reveal Politics. “His mother, who led him towards his father’s Marxism – yes. His mentor was a fellow by the name of Frank Marshall Davis, he was a communist. And, of course, his alliances from that time on."
Voight, the father of Angelina Jolie, built a lucrative Hollywood career as a film star, with credits such as “Midnight Cowboy” and “The Rainmaker” under his belt. But these days the actor, like so many former film stars, has been lured to cable, as part of the new "golden age" of television, to play the character Mickey Donovan on Showtime’s “Ray Donovan.”
“I used to feel that way (about television) but now I don’t,” he said. “The show is pretty edgy, it is daring and funny. It’s a crazy character and I love crazy characters. He’s a big mess.”
http://www.foxnews.com/entertainment/2013/09/24/jon-voight-obama-following-fathers-socialist-footsteps/
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Just look at what he has done since taking office:
- Government control of the healthcare system.
- Someone told me the bill includes a requirement for a National ID card and access to bank accounts and personal records. Is this true?
- The federal government has taken over the automobile, mortgage, and banking industries.
- The federal government has taken control of student loans.
- Obama wants to cap private sector salaries.
- Obama wants to give amnesty to illegal aliens.
I know people have thrown around the communist label mainly as a pejorative, but his actions appear to be leading to one conclusion. :-\
Without a doubt. Also, look at the people who he has appointed to office. A few that were admitted communists.
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most of the .00001%ers are democrats.
Thats because dem are way better at economy ;D
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Sure...Obama is lighting it up. ::)
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Just look at what he has done since taking office:
- Government control of the healthcare system.
- Someone told me the bill includes a requirement for a National ID card and access to bank accounts and personal records. Is this true?
- The federal government has taken over the automobile, mortgage, and banking industries.
- The federal government has taken control of student loans.
- Obama wants to cap private sector salaries.
- Obama wants to give amnesty to illegal aliens.
I know people have thrown around the communist label mainly as a pejorative, but his actions appear to be leading to one conclusion. :-\
I solemnly agree with you. The only conslusion that I can draw from the list of actions you provided is that you are out of your focking mind. If you have a mind at all. The government in charge of government guaranteed student loans? A bailout of private business whose perfidy almost ruined our economy?
The rest of your 'observations' are just as cogent as the others. Where's the erudition of Soul Crusher to elaborate on your inchoate ramblings?
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Of course he is a communist. I cant even believe we are stillhaving this debate. However, he is contrained by his monied puppet masters like soros, goldman sachs, jp morgan, etc. Neverthless, if you look at the following, I still dont see how one can reach any other conclusion.
1. Father and mother were marxists.
2. His mentor was a communist.
3. He "sought out the marxist professors and radicals" in college.
4. He befriended communists like Ayeres, Dohrn, etc.
5. He sat in a radical church based on marxist theology for 20 years.
6. Was a member of the socialist party at one time on the past.
7. Communist czars like van jones, sunstein, holdren, dunn, and wright.
8. "Spread the wealth"
9. Bank, health care, auto, school loan, energy takeover.
10. Associations with ACORN, SEIU, andy stern, etc.
11. Said the constitution is deeply flawed because it does not resdistribute the wealth in socienty.
You guys want more?
Learn about communism you seem to have no concept of it. How is he redistributing wealth? the top have seen a dramatic increase in there share of the pie, that alone is counter to communism.
Coachs post was equally retarded. Look at some of those criteria, any president fits them. Seeks power? obviously he's the president.
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Learn about communism you seem to have no concept of it. How is he redistributing wealth? the top have seen a dramatic increase in there share of the pie, that alone is counter to communism.
Coachs post was equally retarded. Look at some of those criteria, any president fits them. Seeks power? obviously he's the president.
From the middle class to the top .00001% and to the welfare thugs like Andrea, obamaphone lady, leeches, parasites, etc
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From the middle class to the top .00001% and to the welfare thugs like Andrea, obamaphone lady, leeches, parasites, etc
you were in a great recession moron, of course there will be more handouts, the economy tanked due to your savior Bush.
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you were in a great recession moron, of course there will be more handouts, the economy tanked due to your savior Bush.
Really? What exactly did Bush do to cause the recession. Specifics please that the democrats who took over both houses in 2006 failed to warn of and stop mind you.
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Really? What exactly did Bush do to cause the recession. Specifics please that the democrats who took over both houses in 2006 failed to warn of and stop mind you.
Bush reined in Freddie and Fannie and almost stopped the CRA from destroying our housing market. Almost.
But it's common knowledge amongst the far right radical fringe that poor people routinely plundered the housing market to score big.
They just got caught this time b/c of a Sheriff named Bush.
See?
Even your sick fantasies putrify when articulated slightly.
What did Bush do to save the economy ruined by the destitute of this country?
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I did give some examples and that was just the tip of the iceberg. You, of course weren’t paying attention. The planndemic is another great example..civil liberties taken away by total government control and as we’re finding out now, this virus was purposely by China but low and behold not a Dem speaks out against China. Tell me what we’re the cost of lives from the lockdowns..not the virus. Who controlled the narrative? Fouci? And who are the ones that think Fouci is a God...who incidentally just happened to have a large investment in the Wuhan Lab? Trump wanted to reopen the economy in like March or April..today states still have restrictions and Canada is completely fucked.
Shall I go on? First amendment? Second Amendment? Schools and Universities? 1619? Critical Race Theory? BLM/Antifa admittedly being a Marxist organization? Why did Kamala Harris bail out members of those? Why don’t the Dems ever speak out against the violence in the cities being burned and looted or the Cop killings that went along with it?
Why are the borders open with thousands of immigrants coming across daily with known MS 13 gang members, Chinavirus infected, Child traffickers, Human Traffickers, a few known terrorists from terrorist countries just to name a few. And along with that, Newsom over the course of a year released some 100k convicts while at the same time trying to implement MORE gun control while making threats to take away our “assault weapons” (whatever the fuck those are) sure....tell me I’m wrong. Oh, almost forgot. They also want to close Men’s Central Jail in LA. They’ve already “reallocated” and cut like a $150mil from their budget and did away with their gang units....but let’s try and take the guns out of law abiding citizens making it easier for criminals to get them. This isn’t by accident Junior
This needs to be made Into a thread in itself
In addition to Coach's points, we have people like Bernie Sanders who are self-described, open socialists.
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Dems looking to federalize elections, pack the Supreme Courts, make DC, Puerto Rico states
Keep adding to this thread
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In addition to Coach's points, we have people like Bernie Sanders who are self-described, open socialists.
Bernie and Biden are dead soon (and ugly Nancy) so there's that.
Libturd Corpse Crew checking in...
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Majority of registered Democratic voters now prefer socialism to capitalism, Fox News poll finds
This is a drastic shift from last year
By Ronn Blitzer FOXBusiness
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/majority-registered-democratic-voters-prefer-socialism-to-capitalism-fox-news-poll
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Majority of registered Democratic voters now prefer socialism to capitalism, Fox News poll finds
This is a drastic shift from last year
By Ronn Blitzer FOXBusiness
https://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/majority-registered-democratic-voters-prefer-socialism-to-capitalism-fox-news-poll
Not surprising since most are welfare bums and layabouts.
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All you have to do is look at his mentors and readings, he most definately a communist.
I thought he was a Kenyan born Muslim? ???