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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #800 on: June 10, 2021, 12:08:38 PM »
You really don't see the issue? I mean ... really? You seem to be saying that because there are a variety of religious services on bases, to include those that aren't Christian based, that it's perfectly fine to put up any religious signs at the entrance to a military installation. Is that your position?

The issue is paranoid anti-religious extremists who have the mistaken belief that the Constitution prohibits all expressions of God or religion on public property.  It doesn't. 

The other issue is those same folks who mistakenly believe the Constitution protects them from being offended by something they don't believe exists.  It doesn't. 

Anyone who believes they need to be protected from seeing a sign advertising Vacation Bible School needs to man up, put on their big boy pants, and get over it already.  This isn't establishing a church.  It's not forcing anyone to attend church.  It's not forcing anyone to become a Christian.  It's just plain silly. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #801 on: June 10, 2021, 08:33:46 PM »
The issue is paranoid anti-religious extremists who have the mistaken belief that the Constitution prohibits all expressions of God or religion on public property.  It doesn't. 

The other issue is those same folks who mistakenly believe the Constitution protects them from being offended by something they don't believe exists.  It doesn't. 

Anyone who believes they need to be protected from seeing a sign advertising Vacation Bible School needs to man up, put on their big boy pants, and get over it already.  This isn't establishing a church.  It's not forcing anyone to attend church.  It's not forcing anyone to become a Christian.  It's just plain silly.

So you don't see it.. cool

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #802 on: June 25, 2021, 08:20:48 PM »
It especially will not happen when a member of Congress threatens their tax exempt status in retaliation. 

Joe Biden on Potentially Being Denied Communion: ‘A Private Matter, Don’t Think That’s Going to Happen’
by WENDELL HUSEBØ
18 Jun 2021

President Joe Biden commented on potentially being denied Communion at the Catholic Church on Friday, saying it was a private matter and that it was not going to happen.

“How do you feel personally about that?” the reporter asked Biden after he had finished speaking about Chinese coronavirus vaccine numbers.

“That’s a private matter, and I don’t think that’s going to happen,” Biden responded before scurrying off the stage.

The question comes as the Wall Street Journal reported Friday there is a movement afoot to disallow Biden to receive Communion from the Catholic Church due to his favorable position on murdering babies before they are born.

The Journal explained:

U.S. Catholic bishops on Friday agreed to prepare a document that would lay out the conditions under which Catholic politicians who support abortion rights, including President Biden, may be denied Communion.

The controversial measure, which had drawn objections from the Vatican and from Pope Francis’s strongest allies among the U.S. bishops, required only a simple majority but passed with 73%, or 168, of the 229 votes cast on Thursday. More than 270 U.S. bishops were eligible to vote.

The bishops’ doctrinal committee will now proceed to draft a document on the Eucharist that will include a section on the conditions under which politicians may receive Communion. Some bishops want that section to state that politicians who support abortion rights must be denied the sacrament.

The report comes as the editors of the influential National Catholic Register issued an op-ed June 14 noting Biden’s slip into his current radical position in favor of unrestricted abortion-on-demand.

In February, Father Jerry Pokorsky, a Virginia priest and Director of Human Life International, said Biden was the “most aggressively anti-Catholic President in history.”

Also in February, the head of the U.S. Bishops’ Committee on Pro-Life Activities, Kansas City Archbishop Joseph Naumann, stated Biden should stop labeling “himself a devout Catholic since his actions contradict this claim.”

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2021/06/18/joe-biden-on-potentially-being-denied-communion-a-private-matter-dont-think-thats-going-to-happen/

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #803 on: June 26, 2021, 02:39:03 PM »
Liberalism is Biden's religion.  I doubt he cares about being denied communion.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #804 on: June 26, 2021, 03:28:26 PM »
Liberalism is Biden's religion.  I doubt he cares about being denied communion.

Biden's counting on "indulgences"...FTN.   ;D

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #805 on: September 27, 2021, 08:34:45 AM »
I pray for GAINS

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #806 on: September 27, 2021, 09:05:34 AM »
I pray for GAINS
Maybe you'll be jacked in the afterlife with striated wings.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #807 on: September 27, 2021, 08:17:39 PM »
I pray for GAINS

Prayer is useless without maximum effort.  Gotta eat right, train hard, rest, supplement . . . and then pray.   :)

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #808 on: September 27, 2021, 08:20:24 PM »
I pray for GAINS

STFU you depleted bag of banged up buttholes.  FOAD you mental maggot.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #809 on: September 28, 2021, 10:49:34 AM »
Prayer is useless without maximum effort.  Gotta eat right, train hard, rest, supplement . . . and then pray.   :)
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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #810 on: September 28, 2021, 11:25:38 PM »
Are you Hulk Hogan?

Nah.  He's taller than me.  But I'm in a lot better shape than him.  I'm a gym rat.   :)

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #811 on: November 09, 2021, 11:29:17 AM »
Catholic Senator Dick Durbin Denied Communion Because He Supports Killing Babies in Abortions
Micaiah Bilger
Nov 9, 2021 
https://www.lifenews.com/2021/11/09/catholic-senator-dick-durbin-denied-communion-because-he-supports-killing-babies-in-abortions/

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #812 on: November 09, 2021, 04:47:56 PM »
Catholic Senator Dick Durbin Denied Communion Because He Supports Killing Babies in Abortions
Micaiah Bilger
Nov 9, 2021 
https://www.lifenews.com/2021/11/09/catholic-senator-dick-durbin-denied-communion-because-he-supports-killing-babies-in-abortions/

Why don't they deny communion to pro death penalty Catholics as well?  Would at least be consistent. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #813 on: November 09, 2021, 06:09:54 PM »
Why don't they deny communion to pro death penalty Catholics as well?  Would at least be consistent.

Good point.

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #814 on: November 09, 2021, 06:39:09 PM »
Why don't they deny communion to pro death penalty Catholics as well?  Would at least be consistent.

Primarily due to the simple fact that the unborn are held innocent and murderers are deserving of death.    Take it from a Cashew, my friend.

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« Reply #815 on: November 09, 2021, 06:43:38 PM »
Primarily due to the simple fact that the unborn are held innocent and murderers are deserving of death.    Take it from a Cashew, my friend.

My point is that they are politically choosing which rules to follow and who to apply them to.

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« Reply #816 on: November 09, 2021, 06:46:49 PM »
My point is that they are politically choosing which rules to follow and who to apply them to.

Men are only men, especially when they choose to behave as such.

And my point is the truth and not because I say it is. 

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Re: Prayer and Religion in Public Life
« Reply #817 on: December 16, 2021, 08:43:28 AM »
Kenneth Copeland is the wealthiest pastor in America. So why does he live in a tax-free Texas mansion?

At his 2015 Southwest Believers’ Convention in Fort Worth, wealthy Texas televangelist Kenneth Copeland explained how he wound up living in a mansion. It all started when God told him years earlier to build that dream home his wife Gloria had described to him.

“Minister this house to her,” he recalled the almighty saying. “It is part of your prosperity.”

Her vision was vast: Rising up three stories and sporting white columns in front, the six-bedroom, six-bath estate on the shores of an exclusive lake community outside of Fort Worth has enough room to fit nearly four basketball courts — more than 18,000 square feet of living space in all.

“You may think that house is too big,” Copeland told the believers’ convention. “You may think it's too grand. I don't care what you think. I heard from heaven. Glory to God, hallelujah!”

What he didn’t mention is that his heavenly plans are being underwritten by Texas taxpayers. Under a little-known statute that county appraisers say is too vague and permissive, the $7 million mansion owned by Copeland’s Eagle Mountain International Church is considered a parsonage — a clergy residence — qualifying for a 100 percent tax break.

That means Copeland’s church gets a pass on what would otherwise be an annual property tax bill exceeding $150,000
— money that other local taxpayers must backfill to cover the cost of schools, police and firefighters.

A months-long Houston Chronicle investigation of ministers’ tax-free residences found no shortage of extravagant homes in high-dollar locales. At least two dozen were worth over $1 million even using the artificially low values that exempt properties typically carry.

Yet even in that elite company, Copeland’s tax-free clergy residence stands out as an opulent illustration of the lengths the law allows religious organizations to go in claiming the tax break. The only limit on the dollar value churches can exempt resides in the imagination of pastors like Copeland.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/investigations/unfair-burden/article/kenneth-copeland-wealth-pastor-tax-free-mansion-16662283.php