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Hillary is "deeply disappointed"?! What the heck kind of pansy response is that? >:(
Iran sentences U.S. journalist to 8 years
TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- A U.S. journalist in Iran was sentenced to eight years in prison for espionage, her father, lawyer and news reports said Saturday -- a sentence that prompted denunciation from the United States.
Iranian media, including an Iranian judiciary source quoted Saturday by the semi-official Iranian Students News Agency, confirmed the sentence of Roxana Saberi, a 31-year-old Iranian-American from North Dakota.
"I am deeply disappointed by the reported sentencing of Roxana Saberi by the Iranian judiciary," U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a statement. "We are working closely with the Swiss Protecting Presence to obtain details about the court's decision, and to ensure her well-being."
Clinton said the United States will "continue to vigorously raise our concerns to the Iranian government."
"Ms. Saberi was born and raised in the United States, yet chose to travel to the Islamic Republic of Iran due to her desire to learn more about her cultural heritage. Our thoughts are with her parents and family during this difficult time."
Her father, Reza Saberi, told National Public Radio in an interview Saturday that the decision will be appealed. The Islamic Republic News Agency, another Iranian news outlet, said an appeal must be filed within 20 days.
Roxana Saberi has freelanced for National Public Radio and other news organizations and was writing a book about Iranian culture.
The Committee to Protect Journalists, the journalists' advocacy group, said Saberi was first detained in January, although no formal charges were disclosed.
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"She told her family that she was initially held for buying a bottle of wine. A spokesman for Iran's Foreign Ministry said later that Saberi was being detained at Tehran's Evin Prison for reporting without proper accreditation," the committee said on its Web site.
Reza Saberi told NPR on Saturday he believes his daughter was coerced into making damaging statements. He said the verdict was issued Wednesday.
The court, which didn't meet Thursday and Friday, reconvened Saturday. Reza Saberi said his daughter was brought to the court, but he wasn't allowed to enter.
Her lawyer, Abdolsamad Khorramshahi, confirmed the verdict and sentence and vowed an appeal would be launched within 20 days.
"I will definitely appeal the verdict within this period," he said.
Reza Saberi said his daughter earlier wanted to go on a hunger strike but she was persuaded not to. However, he said there is a chance she might do so now in light of the verdict.
Reza Saberi said his daughter is "very weak and frail."
"She is quite depressed about this matter and she wants to go on hunger strike. If she does, she's so frail it can be very dangerous to her health."
Others also denounced the verdict.
"Roxana Saberi's trial lacked transparency and we are concerned that she may not have been treated fairly," said Mohamed Abdel Dayem, the Middle East and North Africa program coordinator for the Committee to Protect Journalists. "We call on the Iranian authorities to release her on bail pending her appeal."
Vivian Schiller, NPR's chief executive officer and president, said the network is "deeply distressed by this harsh and unwarranted sentence."
"Saberi has already endured a three-month confinement in Evin Prison, and we are very concerned for her well-being," Schiller said in a statement. "Through her work for NPR over several years, we know her as an established and respected professional journalist.
"We appeal to all of those who share our concerns to ask that the Iranian authorities show compassion and allow her to return home to the United States immediately with her parents."
North Dakota lawmakers slammed the conviction.
Democratic U.S. Sen. Kent Conrad called the ruling "preposterous," adding that the "charges against her are baseless."
"She was tried in a secret trial without her attorney even being present. That is a travesty of justice."
U.S. Sen. Byron Dorgan called the ruling "a shocking miscarriage of justice."
"The Iranian government has held a secret trial, will not make public any evidence, and sentenced an American citizen to eight years in prison for a crime she didn't commit," the Democratic senator said.
U.S. Rep. Earl Pomeroy, D-North Dakota, said he was "dismayed at the verdict from the secret trial of Roxana Saberi."
"We know Roxana to be a fine young woman of intelligence and integrity and I hope based on humanitarian considerations she will be allowed to return to the United States.
"I am humbled by the brave efforts of Roxana's parents who traveled from Fargo to Tehran, and I will continue to work closely with them in an effort to secure her release."
Feature Story News, the stringer service that employed Saberi in Iran, also condemned the action.
Simon Marks, president and chief correspondent, called the conviction a "miscarriage of justice -- or what passes for justice in modern Iran."
"Roxana moved to Iran in February 2003 to offer global audiences balanced, objective coverage of news developments in the Islamic Republic. Since then, she has always honored journalistic principles of the highest professional standard.
"We note that no evidence to support charges of espionage has ever been furnished by the authorities in Iran. We can only conclude that absolutely none exists."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/04/18/iran.us.journalist/index.html
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Hillary is "deeply disappointed"?! What the heck kind of pansy response is that? >:(
You seem to believe you can do the Sec of State's job better than her.
What would your verbal response have been?
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You seem to believe you can do the Sec of State's job better than her.
What would your verbal response have been?
I'm sure Beach would have said "Give her back or we'll blow you up".
Because we all know how sensible Iran can be when you threaten them.
Queue rolling eyes.
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::) Just for you. :)
I certainly wouldn't have said I'm "deeply disappointed." I think words like "outrage" and "unacceptable" are more appropriate. You liberal lapdogs can be such sissies.
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::) Just for you. :)
I certainly wouldn't have said I'm "deeply disappointed." I think words like "outrage" and "unacceptable" are more appropriate. You liberal lapdogs can be such sissies.
That's why you Conservative tough guys are ones whining so much lately.
The only thing I'm not conservative about is religion, but that's not enough for you, huh "tough guy".
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That's why you Conservative tough guys are ones whining so much lately.
The only thing I'm not conservative about is religion, but that's not enough for you, huh "tough guy".
Religion is a different subject. This is about protecting an American citizen who was just convicted in a secret trial for spying. What the heck?? We should be all over those Iranian fools.
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Religion is a different subject. This is about protecting an American citizen who was just convicted in a secret trial for spying. What the heck?? We should be all over those Iranian fools.
So because we're not dropping bombs, we're "sissies"
This is when you show that you're not as smart as you think you are.
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So because we're not dropping bombs, we're "sissies"
This is when you show that you're not as smart as you think you are.
lol. And where did I say we should drop bombs. lol.
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lol. And where did I say we should drop bombs. lol.
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So you're saying instead of being disappointed, you would say outraged or unacceptable.
And then when they did the exact same thing, as when shesaid disappointed... What then?
Your "tough" words would basically be chest thumping then... because you're not willing to drop bombs?
What would you do when your "tough talk" didn't do anything more than what her words did Beach?
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So you're saying instead of being disappointed, you would say outraged or unacceptable.
And then when they did the exact same thing, as when shesaid disappointed... What then?
Your "tough" words would basically be chest thumping then... because you're not willing to drop bombs?
What would you do when your "tough talk" didn't do anything more than what her words did Beach?
We don't know if they would do the "exact same thing" if she escalated her rhetoric. We also don't what kind of impact this will have on other Americans abroad who might be put through secret trials for "spying."
Tough talk is a start. What we do next depends on their response. And I don't what their hypothetical response would be to our hypothetical escalated rhetoric.
What I do know is we sound like a bunch of wimps. Just like the response to the Afghanistan rape law. I really thought Hillary was tougher than this.
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We don't know if they would do the "exact same thing" if she escalated her rhetoric. We also don't what kind of impact this will have on other Americans abroad who might be put through secret trials for "spying."
Tough talk is a start. What we do next depends on their response. And I don't what their hypothetical response would be to our hypothetical escalated rhetoric.
What I do know is we sound like a bunch of wimps. Just like the response to the Afghanistan rape law. I really thought Hillary was tougher than this.
Right, so you really don't have anything better, just just like saying she's "not tough".
I get it.
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1) the person might really be a spy
2) we're probably doing all sorts of shit behind the scenes to get her back
3) It's not always wise to rachet up the rhetoric when you're in the vulnerable position, which in this case, we are. Stop thinking with your ego and use logic. You don't try to embarass an adversary at the same time you're quietly asking for your asset back.
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::) Just for you. :)
I certainly wouldn't have said I'm "deeply disappointed." I think words like "outrage" and "unacceptable" are more appropriate. You liberal lapdogs can be such sissies.
Why?
Was she a spy?
...and since when did you start objecting to secret trials?
...or is it just a matter of certain things being acceptable only when the USA does them?
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Why?
Was she a spy?
...and since when did you start objecting to secret trials?
...or is it just a matter of certain things being acceptable only when the USA does them?
Yawn. We don't have secret trials in this country, hater. But nice try. This is about an American citizen being charged, prosecuted, and convicted in a foreign country without any light whatsoever being shined on the proceedings.
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Yawn. We don't have secret trials in this country, hater. But nice try. This is about an American citizen being charged, prosecuted, and convicted in a foreign country without any light whatsoever being shined on the proceedings.
Kind of like those "enemy combatants" in Guitmo.
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Yawn. We don't have secret trials in this country, hater. But nice try. This is about an American citizen being charged, prosecuted, and convicted in a foreign country without any light whatsoever being shined on the proceedings.
No, ...you kidnap people and hold secret trials in other countries. big difference there... NOT!
At least she was charged, ...which is a heckuva lot more than others have received at the hands of the US gov.
Have you considered why there has been no light shed on this... could it be the US does NOT want the spotlight shined on this? again, ...please answer my question. Was she a spy?
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Kind of like those "enemy combatants" in Guitmo.
Really? There are secret proceedings under the Military Commission Act? News to me.
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No, ...you kidnap people and hold secret trials in other countries. big difference there... NOT!
At least she was charged, ...which is a heckuva lot more than others have received at the hands of the US gov.
Have you considered why there has been no light shed on this... could it be the US does NOT want the spotlight shined on this? again, ...please answer my question. Was she a spy?
No, we don't. Absolutely ridiculous.
Let me take a stab at this: no, she wasn't a "spy" for the U.S. government. Otherwise, Hillary wouldn't be saying "I am deeply disappointed by the reported sentencing of Roxana Saberi by the Iranian judiciary."
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No, we don't. Absolutely ridiculous.
Let me take a stab at this: no, she wasn't a "spy" for the U.S. government. Otherwise, Hillary wouldn't be saying "I am deeply disappointed by the reported sentencing of Roxana Saberi by the Iranian judiciary."
the US has absolutely done that Beach... Why are you in denial?
That's what Guantanimo bay the Military Tribunals are all about.
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Really? There are secret proceedings under the Military Commission Act? News to me.
Everything is news to you because you are so clueless. Here's another Newsflash for you:
You also got death squads who routinely assassinated people at Cheney's behest.
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the US has absolutely done that Beach... Why are you in denial?
That's what Guantanimo bay the Military Tribunals are all about.
No they're not. The debate was over holding people indefinitely without charges (something I never supported) and whether habeas applies (I don't think it should).
I'm unaware of "secret" trials, but I could be wrong.
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No they're not. The debate was over holding people indefinitely without charges (something I never supported) and whether habeas applies (I don't think it should).
I'm unaware of "secret" trials, but I could be wrong.
What do you consider a Military Tribunal?
I think that very well may be considered a secret trial.
How secret is this trial when we know about it's outcome?
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You seem to believe you can do the Sec of State's job better than her.
What would your verbal response have been?
He wouldn't have responded with words, he would have responded with something that sent a stronger message....
A giant rolling eye face: ::)
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Everything is news to you because you are so clueless. Here's another Newsflash for you:
You also got death squads who routinely assassinated people at Cheney's behest.
LOL. You friggin nut. lol . . . .
Yes, from the same person who believes Bush bribed the media, the CIA controls the media, the government shot missiles into the Pentagon, etc., etc.
You know, I always feel a little dumber after engaging you, and I don't have much to work with. :-\
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No, we don't. Absolutely ridiculous.
Let me take a stab at this: no, she wasn't a "spy" for the U.S. government. Otherwise, Hillary wouldn't be saying "I am deeply disappointed by the reported sentencing of Roxana Saberi by the Iranian judiciary."
Are you claiming that the CIA doesn't kidnap people and transport them to third world countries for 'interrogation'?
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What do you consider a Military Tribunal?
I think that very well may be considered a secret trial.
How secret is this trial when we know about it's outcome?
It's a trial that contains pretty much all of the due process a person gets a "regular" criminal trial. I'm unaware of it being "secret," where no one knows what's going on, what the charges are, etc.
Regarding this particular woman, we apparently don't know precisely what she was charged with, what the evidence was, who the witnesses were, etc. Any American who travels abroad should be disturbed by this.
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You know, I always feel a little dumber after engaging you,
That usually happens when one realizes they don't know as much as they thought they did.
and I don't have much to work with. :-\
Of this, I think we are all far too painfully aware!
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It's a trial that contains pretty much all of the due process a person gets a "regular" criminal trial. I'm unaware of it being "secret," where no one knows what's going on, what the charges are, etc.
Half the time Three Quarters of the time, defense attorneys can't even have access to the evidence being used against their clients or even be informed what it is.
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He wouldn't have responded with words, he would have responded with something that sent a stronger message....
A giant rolling eye face: ::)
hahaha i can just picture BB standing at a press conference as sec of state. The reporter asks him to respond to the question, and he delivers a big puffy-cheeked smile, followed by an animated eye roll, complete with head bobble.
hahaha classic moment. I wonder how FOX news would report on it.
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This is one of many primary examples that demonstrate how truly warped the lefts view of the world is.
You guys bitch about Gitmo. You guys whine about America. You guys will stick up for anyone as long as it isn't an American.
Throwing your completely baseless accusations about America out of the picture for a moment, even if those accusations were accurate, how can you smugly sit there and take the "high ground" when an American journalist is wrongfully imprisoned in Iran with no real trial for 8 years. You fucking spineless weasels still try to blame the Bush administration for this miscarriage of justice. Even this is Bush's fault?!??!!?
When your relatives die of old age or cancer, do you blame that on Bush also? Or, do you say, well- America created cancer and death from old age, so why is it a big deal?
You numbskulls apply the same haphazard logic when people criticize Obama for the same shit Bush did. You ignore Obama's missteps, lies and screw ups and instead say- Well, Bush did it so who cares. I hope ( actually I dont hope, because none of you should reproduce) that when you have children and they do something wrong, you tell them its ok... Bush must have done the same thing also! And he became president!
While you fucking wastes of space have the ACLU, half of Congress, the Senate and the whole media making sure the scum of the earth are treated "humanely", you all bury your heads in the sand when a real miscarriage of justice occurs.
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This is one of many primary examples that demonstrate how truly warped the lefts view of the world is.
You guys bitch about Gitmo. You guys whine about America. You guys will stick up for anyone as long as it isn't an American.
Throwing your completely baseless accusations about America out of the picture for a moment, even if those accusations were accurate, how can you smugly sit there and take the "high ground" when an American journalist is wrongfully imprisoned in Iran with no real trial for 8 years. You fucking spineless weasels still try to blame the Bush administration for this miscarriage of justice. Even this is Bush's fault?!??!!?
When your relatives die of old age or cancer, do you blame that on Bush also? Or, do you say, well- America created cancer and death from old age, so why is it a big deal?
You numbskulls apply the same haphazard logic when people criticize Obama for the same shit Bush did. You ignore Obama's missteps, lies and screw ups and instead say- Well, Bush did it so who cares. I hope ( actually I dont hope, because none of you should reproduce) that when you have children and they do something wrong, you tell them its ok... Bush must have done the same thing also! And he became president!
While you fucking wastes of space have the ACLU, half of Congress, the Senate and the whole media making sure the scum of the earth are treated "humanely", you all bury your heads in the sand when a real miscarriage of justice occurs.
Wow... Moronic Meltdown.
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This is one of many primary examples that demonstrate how truly warped the lefts view of the world is.
You guys bitch about Gitmo. You guys whine about America. You guys will stick up for anyone as long as it isn't an American.
Throwing your completely baseless accusations about America out of the picture for a moment, even if those accusations were accurate, how can you smugly sit there and take the "high ground" when an American journalist is wrongfully imprisoned in Iran with no real trial for 8 years. You fucking spineless weasels still try to blame the Bush administration for this miscarriage of justice. Even this is Bush's fault?!??!!?
When your relatives die of old age or cancer, do you blame that on Bush also? Or, do you say, well- America created cancer and death from old age, so why is it a big deal?
You numbskulls apply the same haphazard logic when people criticize Obama for the same shit Bush did. You ignore Obama's missteps, lies and screw ups and instead say- Well, Bush did it so who cares. I hope ( actually I dont hope, because none of you should reproduce) that when you have children and they do something wrong, you tell them its ok... Bush must have done the same thing also! And he became president!
While you fucking wastes of space have the ACLU, half of Congress, the Senate and the whole media making sure the scum of the earth are treated "humanely", you all bury your heads in the sand when a real miscarriage of justice occurs.
Truth.
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"I am deeply disappointed by the reported sentencing of Roxana Saberi by the Iranian judiciary," U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said in a statement. "We are working closely with the Swiss Protecting Presence to obtain details about the court's decision, and to ensure her well-being."
Clinton said the United States will "continue to vigorously raise our concerns to the Iranian government."
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In other words, this poor woman is SOL as we will do nothing but talk to them.
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In other words, this poor woman is SOL as we will do nothing but talk to them.
let's hear your solution.
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This is one of many primary examples that demonstrate how truly warped the lefts view of the world is.
You guys bitch about Gitmo. You guys whine about America. You guys will stick up for anyone as long as it isn't an American.
Throwing your completely baseless accusations about America out of the picture for a moment, even if those accusations were accurate, how can you smugly sit there and take the "high ground" when an American journalist is wrongfully imprisoned in Iran with no real trial for 8 years. You fucking spineless weasels still try to blame the Bush administration for this miscarriage of justice. Even this is Bush's fault?!??!!?
When your relatives die of old age or cancer, do you blame that on Bush also? Or, do you say, well- America created cancer and death from old age, so why is it a big deal?
You numbskulls apply the same haphazard logic when people criticize Obama for the same shit Bush did. You ignore Obama's missteps, lies and screw ups and instead say- Well, Bush did it so who cares. I hope ( actually I dont hope, because none of you should reproduce) that when you have children and they do something wrong, you tell them its ok... Bush must have done the same thing also! And he became president!
While you fucking wastes of space have the ACLU, half of Congress, the Senate and the whole media making sure the scum of the earth are treated "humanely", you all bury your heads in the sand when a real miscarriage of justice occurs.
Do you hate everyone and everything that is not American?
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* if you are white
" STAY THE FUCK OUT OF COUNTRIES LIKE IRAN AND PAKISTAN "
in otherwords...dont touch a hot stove and then whine if you get burned
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No Decide- I just hate you and people like you.
First off this former beauty queen from North Dakota isn't white- shes only been involved in journalism for a very short time- There is no shot she was "spying".
Eh- Maybe that was a meltdown- too many bad words. But someone needed to say it. Where the fuck is amnesty international and the ACLU now? Where are the protests!?!?
The best we can do for an American wrongfully imprisoned overseas is issue a statement " I am very disappointed". I'm surprised Hillary and Barry didn't issue pictures of themselves to the media with their arms folded in defiance frowining like Charlie Brown. That will show Iran! Diplomacy and kissing the filthy smelly ass of the Arab world has clearly worked wonders so far.
Whats next? A deodorant embargo? ::)
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let's hear your solution.
Reagan had a good solution with Libya. Notice how they never screwed with us again.
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i think it would be silly for any of us to believe we "know" she is or isn't spying over there.
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240 you see conspiracy theories when you take a shit. -"Must've been that damn GWB putting extra fiber in my bannana soy smoothie again".
Dude, get a fucking clue.
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240 you see conspiracy theories when you take a shit. -"Must've been that damn GWB putting extra fiber in my bannana soy smoothie again".
Dude, get a fucking clue.
This is the mental disorder at work. This girl was probably a young naive idealistic jounrnalist and got caught up in this nonsense and now Zero and Hillary will sit silent because it does not fit ni their plans to seeing "we shall overcome" with Ahmedenajad.
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240 you see conspiracy theories when you take a shit. -"Must've been that damn GWB putting extra fiber in my bannana soy smoothie again".
Dude, get a fucking clue.
Good point.
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No, my point is there there are probably thousands of Americans in Iran.
Why did this one get chosen for 8 years in prison?
Maybe she was just "naive and idealistic" as 333386 puts it.
Or, maybe it's "naive and idealistic" to believe we don't spy on iran. Or that this girl wasn't, because, um...
Oh, because zero sucks. great.
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This is the mental disorder at work. This girl was probably a young naive idealistic jounrnalist and got caught up in this nonsense and now Zero and Hillary will sit silent because it does not fit ni their plans to seeing "we shall overcome" with Ahmedenajad.
Yep. She did work for both NPR and the BBC. Clearly a sinister U.S./British spy. ::)
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No Decide- I just hate you and people like you.
First off this former beauty queen from North Dakota isn't white- shes only been involved in journalism for a very short time- There is no shot she was "spying".
Eh- Maybe that was a meltdown- too many bad words. But someone needed to say it. Where the fuck is amnesty international and the ACLU now? Where are the protests!?!?
The best we can do for an American wrongfully imprisoned overseas is issue a statement " I am very disappointed". I'm surprised Hillary and Barry didn't issue pictures of themselves to the media with their arms folded in defiance frowining like Charlie Brown. That will show Iran! Diplomacy and kissing the filthy smelly ass of the Arab world has clearly worked wonders so far.
Whats next? A deodorant embargo? ::)
Do you say this when people are "convicted" of drug smuggling in places like Japan and Thailand?
Other countries convict US citizens of crimes all of the time.
Is this just because it's "Iran"?
How man spies did the US try and convict during the cold war?
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11:19 a.m. : One day after Roxana Saberi, an Iranian-American journalist, was sentenced to eight years in prison for espionage, following a one-day trial behind closed doors in Tehran, Iran’s state news agency IRNA reports that Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent a letter to Tehran’s chief prosecutor instructing him to ensure that Ms. Saberi is given the opportunity to present a full defense... Observers have speculated that Ms. Saberi’s case is now part of a struggle taking place inside the opaque world of Iran’s complex government over how to respond to recent overtures from the United States to repair relations.
As Nazila Fathi reported in The Times on Saturday, Ms. Saberi’s lawyer, Abdolsamad Khoramshahi, “told the official Iranian news agency, IRNA, that he had been told he could appeal the case, and said he would.”... IRNA said the letter from Ahmadinejad’s chief of staff, Abdolreza Sheikholeslami, to prosecutor Saeed Mortazavi dealt with Saberi’s case as well as that of detained Iranian blogger Hossein Derakhshan.
“Based on the president’s insistence, please make sure that all the legal stages about the mentioned people be based on justice,” the letter said. ” … and you personally make sure that the accused people will enjoy all freedoms and legal rights to defend themselves and their rights will not be violated,” it added.
Ms. Saberi’s lawyer, Mr. Khorramshahi, told Reuters on Sunday: “We also want what the president wants, especially regarding making meeting my client easier, and also we want them (the judiciary) to be more accurate at the appeals stage.” Mr. Khorramshahi added that Iran’s most famous human-rights lawyer, Shirin Ebadi, is joining the legal team defending Ms. Saberi. In 2003, Ms. Ebadi won the Nobel Peace Prize but, as we’ve reported here on The Lede, more recently her ability to work has been restricted by the Iranian authorities.
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TU- your missing the point and misstating the relevance of my argument. I don't get up at arms when Americans are convicted of drug smuggling in Thailand- First because its illegal, second because you should know how severe the drug laws are in Asia before agreeing to risk life and limb, and third because I am not one of these numbskulls who wants to save the world and make sure people who break the law abroad get the best human rights treatment possible. This woman was not a spy- That's the point; What does the prosecution of spys during the cold war have to do with this story?
My point is that people who ARE like that are silent here. AMERICANS that blow a gasket when a terrorist or convicted rapist dont get a color TV in their cell are sitting on their hands here and saying nothing. These individuals do backflips to assist the cause of American criminals and international terrorists, but when someone fails to fall into either of those categories, nobody says a thing.
We constantly hear and see in the news how oppressive and horrible America is. Iran is just a misunderstood country that was bullied by the Bush Admin and unjustly cast into the Axis of Evil-- Even Iranian Nobel prize winners cannot fully function under the current regime. Free speech is a fantasy, and Iranians are bullied, tortured and murdered by their own government. I guess until America concedes that it is responsible for the Iranian governments behavior because of its foreign policy, Iran is justified in its actions.
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First off this former beauty queen from North Dakota isn't white- shes only been involved in journalism for a very short time- There is no shot she was "spying".
her father is on MSNBC being interviewed right now. He says she's been a journalist for 6 years.
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her father is on MSNBC being interviewed right now. He says she's been a journalist for 6 years.
Right, so you believe Iran now????
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Right, so you believe Iran now????
LMAO...
This is her father speaking.
So he's lying now?
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LMAO...
This is her father speaking.
So he's lying now?
How does her being a jounralist equate to being a spy????
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How does her being a jounralist equate to being a spy????
I didn't say it did.
However, Whorewell said there is no chance she was a spy because she was only a journalist for a very short time. I pointed out her father's interview with pics today, explaining she had worked for 6 years as a journalist.
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Jesse Jackson is requesting visas from the Iranian goverment to travel to Iran to appeal on this woman's behalf.
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LMAOOOOOO
Go get em Jesse-- Tell Ahmedinijad you want to crush his nuts the same way you said you wanted to crush Obama's nuts when your microphone was accidently left on during that interview last year.
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Iranian court to hear journalist's appeal, father says
TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- An Iranian court will hear the appeal Sunday of a U.S. journalist imprisoned in Iran, the woman's father told CNN on Saturday.
Roxana Saberi stopped her hunger strike Monday night after her parents visited her in prison.
Reza Saberi, the father of Roxana Saberi, said his lawyer told him the appeal court would be convened Sunday.
"We are waiting to see what happens tomorrow," Reza Saberi said. "It usually takes a day or two after the court convenes for the verdict to be issued."
Roxana Saberi, an Iranian-American journalist, was tried and convicted on espionage charges in a one-day trial last month that was closed to the public. She was sentenced to eight years in prison.
Saberi is appealing her verdict, and Iranian authorities have said they will make sure her appeal process is quick and fair.
Saberi was detained in January and accused of buying a bottle of wine and working as a journalist without proper accreditation, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, a journalists' advocacy group.
Saberi has lived in Iran since 2003 and reported for National Public Radio, the BBC, and ABC News until her press credentials were revoked in 2006, the CPJ said. She continued to file short news items with government permission, according to NPR.
"Without press credentials and under the name of being a reporter, she was carrying out espionage activities," Hassan Haddad, a deputy public prosecutor, told the Iranian Students News Agency.
Authorities said Saberi confessed. Her father said he thinks she was coerced into making damaging statements.
Saberi went on a two-week hunger strike to protest her detention, but she ended it Monday after her parents visited her in Tehran's Evin Prison and pleaded with her to stop, Reza Saberi told CNN.
At one point during the hunger strike, she was brought to a hospital and fed intravenously, her father said.
President Obama, as well as other U.S. and international officials, have denounced her detention and sentencing.
Nobel laureate Shirin Ebadi, an Iranian human rights activist, has joined the cause to free Saberi. Ebadi's law firm agreed to represent Saberi in her appeals process but attorneys were blocked from meeting her on six occasions, Ebadi told the CPJ.
The attorneys were trying to meet with Saberi so she could sign documents to make them part of her legal defense team, Ebadi said.
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/05/09/iran.us.journalist/index.html
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The “spy” is free. Guess we need a replacement.
U.S. journalist freed in Iran, attorney says
TEHRAN, Iran (CNN) -- Iran has released imprisoned Iranian-American journalist Roxana Saberi, her lawyer said Monday.
Attorney Abdolsamad Khorramshahi said a prison official told him shortly before 6 p.m. Monday (9:30 a.m. ET) that Saberi had been freed.
Saberi, 32, was convicted last month on espionage charges in a one-day trial that was closed to the public. She was sentenced to eight years in prison. She denies the charges.
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton confirmed the release, and said the U.S. government is "heartened" by the development.
Clinton added, however, that the United States continues to "take issue" with the charges initially brought against Saberi, who is expected to leave Tehran within the next several days.
Earlier, Saberi's father, Reza Saberi, said her release was imminent, and that he had signed paperwork.
"We are very happy with the news," he told CNN. "We were hoping for it."
Iran's state-run news agency IRNA, citing a judiciary spokesman, reported that the verdict against Roxana Saberi was "reversed in the appeal court and she is to be freed."
Her sentence has been changed to a two-year jail term suspended for five years, IRNA reported.
State-run Press TV, citing "officials close to the case," reported that the suspended sentence "will be automatically abolished if Saberi shows no unlawful conduct in the next five years."
"So, practically, she is free as of today," Reza Saberi said.
The family will return to the United States "as soon as we can make arrangements for the trip," he said.
The change came a day after Iran's court of appeals held a five-hour session on the case.
The court agreed with Saberi's lawyers that Iran is not at war with the United States -- and that therefore Saberi cannot be punished for cooperating with agents of a nation at war with Iran, according to Khorramshahi.
Saberi was detained in January after initially being accused of buying a bottle of wine and working as a journalist without proper accreditation, according to the Committee to Protect Journalists, an advocacy group.
Saberi has lived in Iran since 2003 and reported for international news organizations, including National Public Radio, the BBC and ABC News until her press credentials were revoked in 2006, the Committee to Protect Journalists said. She continued to file short news items, according to NPR.
"Without press credentials and under the name of being a reporter, she was carrying out espionage activities," Hassan Haddad, a deputy public prosecutor, told the Iranian Student's News Agency.
Authorities said Saberi confessed. Her father has said he thinks she was coerced into making damaging statements.
Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad sent a letter last month to Tehran's prosecutor calling for justice in the cases of Saberi and another detained journalist, Hossein Derakhshan, state-run news agency IRNA reported. Derakhshan is an Iranian-Canadian blogger who has been imprisoned in the country since November.
Reporters Without Borders, a group that fights for journalists' rights worldwide, says Derakhshan was sentenced to four years in prison for disseminating the views of one ayatollah and for "publicity against the government."
Saberi went on a two-week hunger strike to protest her detention, but ended it last Monday after her parents visited her in prison and pleaded with her to stop, Reza Saberi told CNN.
At one point during the hunger strike, she was hospitalized and fed intravenously, her father said. "She was very desperate to get out. ... She was quite relieved to know that the whole world is supporting her."
Saberi's case has prompted denunciations from President Obama, as well as other U.S. and international officials.
The whole experience has been "very depressing" for her, and she has gone through a great deal of frustration, Saberi's father said Monday. "It will take some time before she can overcome it."
He added, "it's not the (Iranian) people -- they are very friendly. We don't understand why it happened."
Journalist advocacy groups welcomed Saberi's release.
"We are thrilled that Roxana Saberi has been released from prison and look forward to welcoming her home," said Joel Simon, executive director of the Committee to Protect Journalists, in a written statement. "But this is also a moment to reflect on the difficult conditions that Iranian journalists endure every day. Several Iranian journalists remain jailed today. We urge they be given the same opportunity for judicial review that was afforded to Roxana Saberi."
"The appeal court's decision to free her can be used as a legal precedent for other journalists currently detained in Iran," said Reporters Without Borders in a statement. "The fact nonetheless remains that, despite her innocence, she is still regarded as guilty by the Iranian authorities. ... The sentence is still unjust, as is the ban on her working as a journalist in Iran."
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/meast/05/11/iran.us.journalist/index.html
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240 still demands she be brought to justice. A legal ruling in Iran = As good as the Supreme Court. She is after all guilty of being a spy- She just cant work in Iran anymore. Buying wine and committing journalism without a license? Absolutely horrible crimes.
Thank God George W Bush isn't in power in Iran. She would be waterboarded and raped while Dick Cheney watched behind a double sided mirror and jacked off. At least the proud and virtuous Ahmedinijahad had the courtesy to let her go despite the fact she was blatantly guilty. They also didn't throw the book at her- She easily could have been sentenced to death by beheading with a dull butcher knife or stoning for shaving her underarms and not being a woman wrapped in a mummy costume before being seen in public.
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Why?
Was she a spy?
...and since when did you start objecting to secret trials?
...or is it just a matter of certain things being acceptable only when the USA does them?
Working for NPR is about as far away from being spy as Lil Kim is for being a role model for virgins
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Working for NPR is about as far away from being spy as Lil Kim is for being a role model for virgins
I never said she was a spy, ...I merely asked the question.
My question was in response to the obvious knee-jerk reaction by most on here.
No one knew the situation. The outrage was not against the sentencing and conviction of an innocent person,
but rather clearly the sentencing and conviction of an American.
ps: Some virgins actually view Lil Kim as their role models. :P
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So would you guys say that our Secretary of State did a good job in getting our US citizen out of Iran?
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No.
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No.
Why?
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Why?
I think her public response was pathetic.
Did she influence the Iran appeals court to set this woman free? If not, then I'd say she has zero to do with the woman being released.
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I think her public response was pathetic.
Did she influence the Iran appeals court to set this woman free? If not, then I'd say she has zero to do with the woman being released.
You think that the evil Iranians would release a woman they accused of being a spy without a little pressure?
Really?
Interesting.
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You think that the evil Iranians would release a woman they accused of being a spy without a little pressure?
Really?
Interesting.
That wasn't your question. You asked: "So would you guys say that our Secretary of State did a good job in getting our US citizen out of Iran?"
You didn't ask whether someone exerted "a little pressure." The comments by Hillary and others at the jump were "a little pressure."
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That wasn't your question. You asked: "So would you guys say that our Secretary of State did a good job in getting our US citizen out of Iran?"
You didn't ask whether someone exerted "a little pressure." The comments by Hillary and others at the jump were "a little pressure."
So then you don't think her pressure had anything to do with the release?
Seems to me that if the goal is to ensure the release of the person, then Hillary did a fine job... She accomplished her goal.
You disagree I take it.
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So then you don't think her pressure had anything to do with the release?
Seems to me that if the goal is to ensure the release of the person, then Hillary did a fine job... She accomplished her goal.
You disagree I take it.
Like I said, if her wimpy comments influenced the appeals court to set the woman free, then yes Hillary did a fine job.
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So a single wrongly convicted prisoner in an Iranian prison is released after those incredibly strong words from our brilliant secretary of state, but 8+ years worth of tough talk, diplomacy, Israeli threats and bowing down to Iran by America, the EU and the rest of the civilized world can't put a stop to Iran's Nuclear program?
Maybe Clinton should just say she is very dissipointed in Iran and their nuclear program will cease to exist.
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So a single wrongly convicted prisoner in an Iranian prison is released after those incredibly strong words from our brilliant secretary of state, but 8+ years worth of tough talk, diplomacy, Israeli threats and bowing down to Iran by America, the EU and the rest of the civilized world can't put a stop to Iran's Nuclear program?
Maybe Clinton should just say she is very dissipointed in Iran and their nuclear program will cease to exist.
Well, I've only seen one result from Iran so far in regards to what the US wanted... This was it.
Maybe you're right... perhaps she does just need to express her disappointment and shit will get done.
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So a single wrongly convicted prisoner in an Iranian prison is released after those incredibly strong words from our brilliant secretary of state, but 8+ years worth of tough talk, diplomacy, Israeli threats and bowing down to Iran by America, the EU and the rest of the civilized world can't put a stop to Iran's Nuclear program?
Maybe Clinton should just say she is very dissipointed in Iran and their nuclear program will cease to exist.
lol. :)