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What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« on: May 25, 2016, 12:38:46 PM »
For years I've done lateral raises like Vince Gironda suggested...like pouring a glass of wine. Well...this way has destroyed my shoulders to no end.

Now I'm hearing that you should do them with palms facing outward...which causes less stress. Little too late for me.





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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #1 on: May 25, 2016, 02:32:13 PM »

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #2 on: May 25, 2016, 02:40:49 PM »
In for a serious response. I can't do front/side laterals without feeling like I seriously aggravated something the next day and the pain lingers for up to a week sometimes. I have resorted to doing OHP only for direct shoulder work... and just riding on ancillary recruitment (front delts from press, rear delts from doing rows and back stuff) to get by.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #3 on: May 25, 2016, 03:52:28 PM »
I think scaption raises or cable external rotation raise (arm across the body) are a lot safer for the long term

But U have to consider other factors for shoulder health-t spine mobility, adequate internal external capability of shoulders, your ability to set the shoulders back

But you're a real piece of shit so U should keep doing super heavy dumbbell laterals-hope your shoulder rips apart
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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #4 on: May 25, 2016, 04:01:49 PM »
For years I've done lateral raises like Vince Gironda suggested...like pouring a glass of wine. Well...this way has destroyed my shoulders to no end.

Now I'm hearing that you should do them with palms facing outward...which causes less stress. Little too late for me.





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I do them back straight, palms downward. But, I pulled my rotator cuff 3 times so don;t listen to me.
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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #5 on: May 25, 2016, 04:46:50 PM »
"Lateral raises": oh, brother  ::)

Shit's absolute joint destruction. Especially that pouring-a-pitcher-of-water tomfoolery.

In general, single-joint exercises are damaging/modestly productive.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #6 on: May 25, 2016, 05:33:55 PM »


Wonder what muscle he thinks he's working here?

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #7 on: May 25, 2016, 05:43:05 PM »
Wonder what muscle he thinks he's working here?

It's a special exercise known as the Allah Flap.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #8 on: May 25, 2016, 05:46:06 PM »
Most people use way too much weight on this exercise in my expert opinion (I am a large powerful man).

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #9 on: May 25, 2016, 05:49:04 PM »
Most people use way too much weight on this exercise in my expert opinion (I am a large powerful man).

This. Less weight higher reps.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #10 on: May 25, 2016, 05:52:50 PM »
It's a special exercise known as the Allah Flap.

I sure hope he's facing Mecca while he's doing that.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #11 on: May 25, 2016, 07:28:58 PM »
The proper way is to scream "mother fucker" as you use your entire body to swing the weights. When you are done, throw the dumbells on the floor and pace the gym with your lats flared.
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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #12 on: May 25, 2016, 07:31:30 PM »
The proper way is to scream "mother fucker" as you use your entire body to swing the weights. When you are done, throw the dumbells on the floor and pace the gym with your lats flared.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #13 on: May 25, 2016, 07:54:55 PM »
Lateral raises don't hurt your shoulder nearly as much as behind neck presses.

Use moderate weights and lead with the elbows instead of your wrists. 

Drop sets have been very effective for me.  When the side delts burn, you know it's working.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #14 on: May 25, 2016, 08:00:26 PM »
Do them how Jay does.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #15 on: May 25, 2016, 08:01:47 PM »
Lateral raises don't hurt your shoulder nearly as much as behind neck presses.

Use moderate weights and lead with the elbows instead of your wrists. 

Drop sets have been very effective for me.  When the side delts burn, you know it's working.


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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #16 on: May 25, 2016, 08:04:09 PM »
Agreed.

Helpful advice.

Now fuck off.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #17 on: May 25, 2016, 08:05:33 PM »
Helpful advice.

Now fuck off.

Fucking off, then.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #18 on: May 25, 2016, 08:09:14 PM »
Lateral raises don't hurt your shoulder nearly as much as behind neck presses.

Use moderate weights and lead with the elbows instead of your wrists. 

Drop sets have been very effective for me.  When the side delts burn, you know it's working.

Poor advice. Leading with the elbows promotes "pinching" in the shoulder. With years comes inflammation. These aggravate the living hell out of the joint.

Anything where a resistance is pulled out and away from the body off a single joint (such as, say, leg extension) will eventually yield trouble.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #19 on: May 25, 2016, 08:13:46 PM »
Poor advice. Leading with the elbows promotes "pinching" in the shoulder. With years comes inflammation. These aggravate the living hell out of the joint.

Anything where a resistance is pulled out and away from the body off a single joint (such as, say, leg extension) will eventually yield trouble.

Nonsense. Always the compound movements that fuck shit up.

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« Reply #20 on: May 25, 2016, 08:24:48 PM »
Nonsense. Always the compound movements that fuck shit up.

To state such a thing is to expose an extremely modest grasp of weight training.

Done well/correctly, multi-joint moves are much safer.

That injury often happens to folks doing these movements, ones that allow for the greatest amount of resistance to be used, is of little surprise. People approach them like easy-to-do exercises, and not technical athletic performances, as they should.

This, plus the stated allowance for considerable poundage, is why they get a bad rap as dangerous.

I've been consistently squatting, benching, deadlifting, and refining my technique, for over 30 years. Lifting without drugs (which produce superficial, and dangerous, strength gains). I have moved large numbers in all three. Never suffered a serious injury doing any of them.

Now, at 46 and stronger than ever, I experience essentially zero strain anywhere performing them.

My squats are done Olympic style, raw, and extremely deep, too, by the way. Training poundage runs from the fours into the mid-to-high 600s. Percentage cycling. I've done 660 in a meet; 705 in the gym.


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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #21 on: May 25, 2016, 08:29:08 PM »
To state such a thing is to expose an extremely modest grasp of weight training.

Done well/correctly, multi-joint moves are much safer.

That injury often happens to folks doing these movements, ones that allow for the greatest amount of resistance to be used, is of little surprise. People approach them like easy-to-do exercises, and not technical athletic performances, as they should.

This, plus the stated allowance for considerable poundage, is why they get a bad rap as dangerous.

I've been consistently squatting, benching, deadlifting, and refining my technique, for over 30 years. Lifting without drugs (which produce superficial, and dangerous, strength gains). I have moved large numbers in all three. Never suffered a serious injury doing any of them.

Now, at 46 and stronger than ever, I experience essentially zero strain anywhere performing them.

My squats are done Olympic style, raw, and extremely deep, too, by the way.



Eh, not me. But I'm only 48.

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #22 on: May 26, 2016, 02:41:04 AM »
I think scaption raises or cable external rotation raise (arm across the body) are a lot safer for the long term

But U have to consider other factors for shoulder health-t spine mobility, adequate internal external capability of shoulders, your ability to set the shoulders back

But you're a real piece of shit so U should keep doing super heavy dumbbell laterals-hope your shoulder rips apart

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #23 on: May 26, 2016, 02:48:56 AM »
I think scaption raises or cable external rotation raise (arm across the body) are a lot safer for the long term

But U have to consider other factors for shoulder health-t spine mobility, adequate internal external capability of shoulders, your ability to set the shoulders back

But you're a real piece of shit so U should keep doing super heavy dumbbell laterals-hope your shoulder rips apart

I give you a bro hug for this (no homo)

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Re: What Is The Proper Way Of Doing The Lateral Raise?
« Reply #24 on: May 26, 2016, 02:51:31 AM »
Helpful advice.

Now fuck off.
now that is Helpful advice.. :D