United Airlines Overbooks Flights - and Beats up a Paying Passenger

[Ron]

CEO Letter to staff not giving a crap on the public

[DroppingPlates]

They better replace that CEO asap to prevent any more damage, what a fool's company

[Schnauzer]

That passenger was a real asshole. 

[Kwon]

[Tapeworm]

Look.  If asians were meant to fly they would have invented airplanes.

[nicorulez]

Who the hell really cares. The guy should have complained, but gotten off peacefully and taken the 800 bucks. United should have bee smart and offered 4X the ticket value which is approved by the DOT. Regardless, resisting the police is never smart and will only get your ass kicked. BTW, I could care less that he has a character of disrepute as that constitutes 90% of Getbiggers and I love you guys. Regardless, I agree with Zillotech in two weeks nobody will give a shit. The bottom line is that United makes cash and its stock will remain strong. Fuck the fake outrage of the liberal press. Shit happens everyday on all airlines, but the passengers are usually smart enough to take the money and run.

[Slik]

Why is everyone calling this moron a doctor?  How come nobody has identified him yet as a doctor of anything?

turns out this "doctor" is a drug pushing scum. Looks like United's algorithms had it right after all.

[bike nut]

The lesson here is:

When cops in Chicago tell you to move, I'd strongly suggest you fucking move.

[illuminati]

http://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-united-low-priority-passenger-20170412-story.html

Yet another very happy & satisfied Frequent Flyer With United Airlines  

Also I see the CEO has changed his tune from the email he sent out to employees


Right or wrong what united airlines did -
The public outcry has had an effect on them enough so that they are reviewing what they do.
Clearly they aren't 100% behind their treatment of said passenger now.

[SF1900]

http://www.latimes.com/business/lazarus/la-fi-lazarus-united-low-priority-passenger-20170412-story.html

Yet another very happy & satisfied Frequent Flyer With United Airlines  

Also I see the CEO has changed his tune from the email he sent out to employees


Right or wrong what united airlines did -
The public outcry has had an effect on them enough so that they are reviewing what they do.
Clearly they aren't 100% behind their treatment of said passenger now.

Damn, they kicking "everyone" off!

[Simple Simon]

there's a big difference between not being able to board a flight due to overbooking and being allowed to board and take your seat, to then be told you must leave.

the airline had obviously royally fked up by getting into a position where they had to ask seated passengers to volunteer to leave. as said by others at that stage they should have just kept upping the offer money until there were some takers(which would have eventually happened).

whatever they ended up paying it would have been far cheaper than the cost of the pr nightmare their chosen action has caused.

the airline industry is full of scumbag companies ime. in the last couple years i've had flights cancelled for over booking  24 hrs before when went to check in online. ended up having to get up at 4am and drive a hundred miles to take another flight to salvage a family xmas holiday.

and another airline refuse to pay industry regulation compensation for 10hr maintenance delay until i started legal action.

yes, about 2 hours... it wouldnt have mattered if I had been in my seat or at the check in desk.

[pellius]

Paying the guy off, which is essentially rewarding him for his childish behavior, in my opinion would just invite copycats to do exactly what he did in future situations.  Just act like a 3-year old, be disruptive and argumentative with airport personal and crew, kick and scream, get a viral video, and then sit back and wait for the big payday.

OR, it will send a message regarding the use of force on someone who had paid for his ticket and granted entry and seated as per the business agreement.

[Simple Simon]

OR, it will send a message regarding the use of force on someone who had paid for his ticket and granted entry and seated as per the business agreement.

I will say it again, flying on a plane is a privilege, not a God given right, in fact there are no such things as rights, rights are things other people allow you to have.

[pellius]

nobody on that plane had the right to disregard authorities

It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.

Americans in general are not impress with a badge, a medal, a crown... Where else can a Joe the plumber get right in the President's face and tell him he's wrong?

He paid for his ticket and was seated and now United tells him the deal is off. We have the right to protest and defy authorities who has changed the rules in the middle of the game. We have the right because we make it our right. We fight back and don't automatically cower to authority.

He's already won. Got put back on the plane and United has a PR nightmare. No jury will side with United no matter how much of a scumbag the "doctor" is. United has been bullying passengers long enough. Americans have a natural sympathy for the little guy because most of us are little guys who has been pushed around.

United should have just paid whatever it took to get volunteers but they thought they could just strong arm the little guy.

[Tapeworm]

The internet isn't boiling over about any of the other injustices in the world.  This just became a big deal because people hate airlines and all the bullshit of flying.  The chinaman isn't the issue.

[pellius]

I will say it again, flying on a plane is a privilege, not a God given right, in fact there are no such things as rights, rights are things other people allow you to have.

It's an economic transaction. When a buyer and seller agree and commit to that transaction, often exchanging money and services, then each party has the right
that the other will honor the agreement.

Unless there was a specific clause stipulating that a passenger can be removed from the plane to make room for other passengers arbitrarily deemed more deserving then his rights has been violated.

[Simple Simon]

It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.

Americans in general are not impress with a badge, a medal, a crown... Where else can a Joe the plumber get right in the President's face and tell him he's wrong?

He paid for his ticket and was seated and now United tells him the deal is off. We have the right to protest and defy authorities who has changed the rules in the middle of the game. We have the right because we make it our right. We fight back and don't automatically cower to authority.

He's already won. Got put back on the plane and United has a PR nightmare. No jury will side with United no matter how much of a scumbag the "doctor" is. United has been bullying passengers long enough. Americans have a natural sympathy for the little guy because most of us are little guys who has been pushed around.

United should have just paid whatever it took to get volunteers but they thought they could just strong arm the little guy.

ITS THAT LACK OF RESPECT THAT GETS SO MANY OF THEM SHOT...

[pellius]

ITS THAT LACK OF RESPECT THAT GETS SO MANY OF THEM SHOT...

Yes, a lot of blood has been spilled standing up to authority. On balance, America is a better society because of those who didn't just cow tow and insipidly doing what they are told to do and not do.

[illuminati]

It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.

Americans in general are not impress with a badge, a medal, a crown... Where else can a Joe the plumber get right in the President's face and tell him he's wrong?

He paid for his ticket and was seated and now United tells him the deal is off. We have the right to protest and defy authorities who has changed the rules in the middle of the game. We have the right because we make it our right. We fight back and don't automatically cower to authority.

He's already won. Got put back on the plane and United has a PR nightmare. No jury will side with United no matter how much of a scumbag the "doctor" is. United has been bullying passengers long enough. Americans have a natural sympathy for the little guy because most of us are little guys who has been pushed around.

United should have just paid whatever it took to get volunteers but they thought they could just strong arm the little guy.

Good post  👍🏻


Only not all Europeans -  More & more of us do stand up & reject the outdated monarchy/ authoritarianism.

[Simple Simon]

Yes, a lot of blood has been spilled standing up to authority. On balance, America is a better society because of those who didn't just cow tow and insipidly doing what they are told to do and not do.

Fuck me, massive crime rates, prisons overcrowded, I wonder how bad it would be if people just obey the law and behaved themselves.

[Conker]

I will say it again, flying on a plane is a privilege, not a God given right, in fact there are no such things as rights, rights are things other people allow you to have.

if you're not trolling and this really is your attitude then you're simply one of life's doormats.

when i pay for services/goods i fully expect to get what i've paid for. yet you think when you help line the pockets of one of these multi billion airlines that it's a privilege for them to allow you take the seat you paid for!

it's the sheeple with your type of mindset that make these huge corporations so confident that they can run roughshod over whoever they choose.

[Conker]

It's a difference of perspective. I hate to paint with a broad brush but Europeans are far more comfortable yielding to authorities than Americans. Still having a Monarchy, who live in unimaginable opulence at tax payers expense, is something beyond the comprehension of Americans. Europeans are far more comfortable with Socialism. Giving more of your money to the government and letting them determine what is best for you. You're much more tolerant of savages invading your country without a fight.

Americans in general are not impress with a badge, a medal, a crown... Where else can a Joe the plumber get right in the President's face and tell him he's wrong?

He paid for his ticket and was seated and now United tells him the deal is off. We have the right to protest and defy authorities who has changed the rules in the middle of the game. We have the right because we make it our right. We fight back and don't automatically cower to authority.

He's already won. Got put back on the plane and United has a PR nightmare. No jury will side with United no matter how much of a scumbag the "doctor" is. United has been bullying passengers long enough. Americans have a natural sympathy for the little guy because most of us are little guys who has been pushed around.

United should have just paid whatever it took to get volunteers but they thought they could just strong arm the little guy.

i have to call bs on the bolded.

the US is probably the most authority controlled society in the western world. they tend not to travel internationally and have little knowledge of what's going on in the rest of the world.  the only thing they get uptight about it is the threat to take away their guns. and that's only because it's been drummed into them that giving them up would lead to armageddon. lol

[10pints]

I will say it again, flying on a plane is a privilege, not a God given right, in fact there are no such things as rights, rights are things other people allow you to have.

Oxymoron of peace.

[pellius]

Good post  👍🏻


Only not all Europeans -  More & more of us do stand up & reject the outdated monarchy/ authoritarianism.

Of course not all. I knew I was on shaky ground to make that claim but it's just been my experience in issues like these and how they polarize. It's kind of ironic, but telling, Conker scolding us "yanks" -- meaning those Americans who allow themselves to be bullied when we go on about freedom and our rights.

I don't want to diminish those in Europe who fight tooth and nail to prevent what is happening there. That small but growing movement in Germany fighting those who have literally surrendered their country without a fight is very encouraging.

[pellius]

Fuck me, massive crime rates, prisons overcrowded, I wonder how bad it would be if people just obey the law and behaved themselves.

Compared to what? England, France, Germany?