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Charles Glass - NY Times
« on: January 05, 2018, 06:01:33 AM »
A nice article about Charles (with a little about the culture at Gold's Gym in Venice) in today's NY Times - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/style/charles-glass-bodybuilder-workout.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fsports&action=click&contentCollection=sports&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=7&pgtype=sectionfront

VENICE, Calif. — Remember the episode of “Seinfeld” that features Elaine trying to return a dress to Barneys after she takes it home and realizes that it doesn’t look nearly as good as it did when she was at the store, surrounded by mirrors that made her appear skinnier?

Well, it’s the opposite at Gold’s Gym in Venice, Calif., the longtime bodybuilding mecca frequented by Arnold Schwarzenegger and three subsequent generations of herculean he-men.

Here, lifters get stretched out horizontally not just by pushing heavy weights and ingesting supplements of varying legal statuses, but also through their own reflections on the walls.

And for those with a real interest in getting huge and $225 an hour to burn, one trainer stands at the front of the pack.

He is Charles Glass, a bespectacled, beanie-wearing and dreadlocked former bodybuilding champion who got his start competing in gymnastics at the University of California, Berkeley. He won the middleweight championship with the International Federation of Bodybuilding in 1983, before giving up the sport professionally to train others.

His celebrity clientele, as listed on his website, has included the actor and former wrestler Dwayne Johnson, a.k.a. The Rock; the four-time Arnold Classic champion Kenneth Wheeler, known as Flex; the 2008 Mr. Olympia winner, Dexter Jackson; and big-name athletes such as Magic Johnson, George Foreman and Jose Canseco.

The wall of champions at Gold’s Gym. Mr. Glass is the trainer of choice there. Credit Graham Walzer for The New York Times
YouTube and Instagram have turned Mr. Glass into something of a national fitness celebrity. And here at home, in this land of thick necks, turbo tans and tattoo parlors, he is a tourist attraction unto himself.

On a recent Friday afternoon, bodybuilding legends like Kai Greene, a three-time runner-up in the Mr. Olympia contest, ambled over with camera crews for impromptu interviews. People with day passes took selfies with Mr. Glass.

Mr. Glass moved to a private area with Lionel Brown, a 5-foot-8, 240-pound competitive bodybuilder, and watched him practice his stage poses.

“This is what we call classic shape, nice form,” Mr. Glass said, after instructing Mr. Brown to take off his shirt. “Show your abs. Do a double bicep. Squeeze your lats.”

“See the separation there?” Mr. Glass said. “That’s the difference between a professional and an amateur.”

Most bodybuilding trainers emphasize low repetition with free weights and extreme poundage. Mr. Glass, who is in his 60s (“old,” he said), makes essential tweaks to that, emphasizing form over maximum overload and unapologetically using machines — often in strange new ways that take handlebar and seat placement as mere suggestions.

There is also an earthy gracefulness about him, from the inconspicuous dark green sweatshirt and matching green cargo pants he wears to the way he avoids barking clichés like “come on, baby” and “let’s go, cowboy” at his clients. (Among his favorites is an 80-something grandmother who works out with him nearly every day and is, he says, “one of the hardest working people in the gym.”)

Mr. Glass coaches Silvio Samuel who works his back on a machine. Credit Graham Walzer for The New York Times
For the most part, he comes off less like mayor of the mesomorphs than their Yoda-ish therapist.

So this November, I went to Mr. Glass for a couple of workouts.

The first day, we did an intense pec workout in which he moved me around to a variety of chest press and fly machines. The weights we used were significantly lower than what I do on my own, but the workout was considerably more focused. And difficult.

Putting a rectangular block behind my back on the incline press pushed back my overdeveloped shoulders, forcing me to isolate my chest in ways I’d barely felt before.

The next day, we worked legs, where even the ordinary hamstring curl machine exercise was made exponentially harder by having me put my hands at the front of the pad and arching up slightly, as if I was doing a back extension.

Mr. Glass also had me do one of his signature exercises, a single leg press movement that is done by stepping into a horizontal leg press, turning the body to the side, and going one leg at a time with the other suspended in midair.

It was not only one of the most intense quad exercises I’d ever done, but also felt sort of like being forced to take a calculus test at the same time.

“Before we had a lot of machines, we all used free weights because that’s what we had,” Mr. Glass said. “But now, you can’t get certain angles from free weights than you can get machines. They put a different kind of stress on the muscles. I try to work around what I have.”

The way Mr. Glass tells it, he gave up his own bodybuilding career in the 1980s because of the toll it was taking on his body. “At my heaviest, I was 262 pounds,” he said. “I was taking health risks, and I didn’t want to do that. I couldn’t walk without breathing like a madman. I thought, ‘Do I really want to do this?’ And that’s when I realized I was done.”

He’s not about to voice blanket opposition to performance-enhancing drugs. “I’d be a hypocrite,” he said.

He acknowledges the role steroids play with bodybuilders competing at the highest levels. But he does want clients using them to start making choices that factor in their health, including going to a doctor regularly and getting blood work done.

As I worked out, a pair of lifters who are big enough to snap Chris Hemsworth like a twig screamed through dead lifts.

Mr. Glass was unimpressed. “A waste of energy,” was what he called their loud display.

In walked Mr. Glass’s next client, another person who is expanding his customer base.

“Calvin!” Mr. Glass said, walking off to greet him.

It was Calvin Klein, who looked like lithe and fit in his tight navy T-shirt and charcoal sweatpants.

“I’m committed to staying healthy and energized, and this is a great way of doing it,” Mr. Klein said.

Mr. Glass, he said, “is up there with the best.”


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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #1 on: January 05, 2018, 06:06:01 AM »
Dude has a good soul RESPECT

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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #2 on: January 05, 2018, 06:10:32 AM »
$225 an hour



Absurd.

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« Reply #3 on: January 05, 2018, 06:26:58 AM »
Lol at $225 am hour. For what? All the special angles that he teaches to clients?  ??? ???
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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #4 on: January 05, 2018, 06:27:39 AM »
Good article. But photo of Silvio Samuel in NY Times??? Back looking good so soon out.

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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #5 on: January 05, 2018, 06:28:56 AM »
25$/hr for training + 200$/hr to be able to say that you were trained by Charles Glass = you have too much money, I can help you with that............

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« Reply #6 on: January 05, 2018, 06:45:00 AM »
Lol. Haters. He deserves every penny. Respect.
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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #7 on: January 05, 2018, 06:56:06 AM »
Lol. Haters. He deserves every penny. Respect.

good on him. I don't any longer begrudge anyone who can command top dollar for their services no matter what the minions think
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« Reply #8 on: January 05, 2018, 07:50:21 AM »
Spoke to this blonde 50 something woman that personal trains in Manhattan. Her clients pay sick rates and she lives a good life. Nice scam she figured out.

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« Reply #9 on: January 05, 2018, 09:26:15 AM »
Does that include gear connections?

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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #10 on: January 05, 2018, 10:15:13 AM »
$ 225 per hour :o

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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #11 on: January 05, 2018, 10:17:40 AM »
 He has had some of the most genetically elite bodybuilders ever at his disposable and they still didn't win any olympias.

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« Reply #12 on: January 05, 2018, 10:21:24 AM »
Lol. Haters. He deserves every penny. Respect.

Wiggs, with all due respect, do you really think this is accurate?

Of course, in a capitalistic society, Mr. Glass is free to make as much money as he wants. In that respect, he does deserve every penny because people are willing to pay it. So be it.

However, from a personal training and nutrition standpoint, do you really think Mr. Glass is worth/deserves $225 an hour? In other words, do you truly believe that his knowledge is worth $225 an hour?
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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #13 on: January 05, 2018, 10:24:47 AM »
A nice article about Charles (with a little about the culture at Gold's Gym in Venice) in today's NY Times - https://www.nytimes.com/2018/01/03/style/charles-glass-bodybuilder-workout.html?rref=collection%2Fsectioncollection%2Fsports&action=click&contentCollection=sports&region=stream&module=stream_unit&version=latest&contentPlacement=7&pgtype=sectionfront

VENICE, Calif. — Remember the episode of “Seinfeld” that features Elaine trying to return a dress to Barneys after she takes it home and realizes that it doesn’t look nearly as good as it did when she was at the store, surrounded by mirrors that made her appear skinnier?

Well, it’s the opposite at Gold’s Gym in Venice, Calif., the longtime bodybuilding mecca frequented by Arnold Schwarzenegger and three subsequent generations of herculean he-men.

Here, lifters get stretched out horizontally not just by pushing heavy weights and ingesting supplements of varying legal statuses, but also through their own reflections on the walls.

And for those with a real interest in getting huge and $225 an hour to burn, one trainer stands at the front of the pack.

He is Charles Glass, a bespectacled, beanie-wearing and dreadlocked former bodybuilding champion who got his start competing in gymnastics at the University of California, Berkeley. He won the middleweight championship with the International Federation of Bodybuilding in 1983, before giving up the sport professionally to train others.

His celebrity clientele, as listed on his website, has included the actor and former wrestler Dwayne Johnson, a.k.a. The Rock; the four-time Arnold Classic champion Kenneth Wheeler, known as Flex; the 2008 Mr. Olympia winner, Dexter Jackson; and big-name athletes such as Magic Johnson, George Foreman and Jose Canseco.

The wall of champions at Gold’s Gym. Mr. Glass is the trainer of choice there. Credit Graham Walzer for The New York Times
YouTube and Instagram have turned Mr. Glass into something of a national fitness celebrity. And here at home, in this land of thick necks, turbo tans and tattoo parlors, he is a tourist attraction unto himself.

On a recent Friday afternoon, bodybuilding legends like Kai Greene, a three-time runner-up in the Mr. Olympia contest, ambled over with camera crews for impromptu interviews. People with day passes took selfies with Mr. Glass.

Mr. Glass moved to a private area with Lionel Brown, a 5-foot-8, 240-pound competitive bodybuilder, and watched him practice his stage poses.

“This is what we call classic shape, nice form,” Mr. Glass said, after instructing Mr. Brown to take off his shirt. “Show your abs. Do a double bicep. Squeeze your lats.”

“See the separation there?” Mr. Glass said. “That’s the difference between a professional and an amateur.”

Most bodybuilding trainers emphasize low repetition with free weights and extreme poundage. Mr. Glass, who is in his 60s (“old,” he said), makes essential tweaks to that, emphasizing form over maximum overload and unapologetically using machines — often in strange new ways that take handlebar and seat placement as mere suggestions.

There is also an earthy gracefulness about him, from the inconspicuous dark green sweatshirt and matching green cargo pants he wears to the way he avoids barking clichés like “come on, baby” and “let’s go, cowboy” at his clients. (Among his favorites is an 80-something grandmother who works out with him nearly every day and is, he says, “one of the hardest working people in the gym.”)

Mr. Glass coaches Silvio Samuel who works his back on a machine. Credit Graham Walzer for The New York Times
For the most part, he comes off less like mayor of the mesomorphs than their Yoda-ish therapist.

So this November, I went to Mr. Glass for a couple of workouts.

The first day, we did an intense pec workout in which he moved me around to a variety of chest press and fly machines. The weights we used were significantly lower than what I do on my own, but the workout was considerably more focused. And difficult.

Putting a rectangular block behind my back on the incline press pushed back my overdeveloped shoulders, forcing me to isolate my chest in ways I’d barely felt before.

The next day, we worked legs, where even the ordinary hamstring curl machine exercise was made exponentially harder by having me put my hands at the front of the pad and arching up slightly, as if I was doing a back extension.

Mr. Glass also had me do one of his signature exercises, a single leg press movement that is done by stepping into a horizontal leg press, turning the body to the side, and going one leg at a time with the other suspended in midair.

It was not only one of the most intense quad exercises I’d ever done, but also felt sort of like being forced to take a calculus test at the same time.

“Before we had a lot of machines, we all used free weights because that’s what we had,” Mr. Glass said. “But now, you can’t get certain angles from free weights than you can get machines. They put a different kind of stress on the muscles. I try to work around what I have.”

The way Mr. Glass tells it, he gave up his own bodybuilding career in the 1980s because of the toll it was taking on his body. “At my heaviest, I was 262 pounds,” he said. “I was taking health risks, and I didn’t want to do that. I couldn’t walk without breathing like a madman. I thought, ‘Do I really want to do this?’ And that’s when I realized I was done.”

He’s not about to voice blanket opposition to performance-enhancing drugs. “I’d be a hypocrite,” he said.

He acknowledges the role steroids play with bodybuilders competing at the highest levels. But he does want clients using them to start making choices that factor in their health, including going to a doctor regularly and getting blood work done.

As I worked out, a pair of lifters who are big enough to snap Chris Hemsworth like a twig screamed through dead lifts.

Mr. Glass was unimpressed. “A waste of energy,” was what he called their loud display.

In walked Mr. Glass’s next client, another person who is expanding his customer base.

“Calvin!” Mr. Glass said, walking off to greet him.

It was Calvin Klein, who looked like lithe and fit in his tight navy T-shirt and charcoal sweatpants.

“I’m committed to staying healthy and energized, and this is a great way of doing it,” Mr. Klein said.

Mr. Glass, he said, “is up there with the best.”



Did I read Silvio Samuel? I didn't know he is out of Jail    I personally don't think Dex can afford 225 an hour, he prolly pays around 50, given the fact is a 5 days a week regimen

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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #14 on: January 05, 2018, 10:29:41 AM »
$225/hour - get the fuck out of here.

There are only so many ways to work out any muscle on the body. For this guy to expect to get paid $225/hour is absolute bullshit.

Professional bodybuilders aren't rich, most are barely making it through and some have to even resort to illegal and sexually explicit activities just to compete in hopes of a plastic trophy.

For this guy to charge that much is insane. I know a few guys in the circuit that try to charge people that much.

That said, a fool is born every day. If you want Glass to train you, go ahead and waste your money.

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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #15 on: January 05, 2018, 10:33:50 AM »
$225/hour - get the fuck out of here.

There are only so many ways to work out any muscle on the body. For this guy to expect to get paid $225/hour is absolute bullshit.

Professional bodybuilders aren't rich, most are barely making it through and some have to even resort to illegal and sexually explicit activities just to compete in hopes of a plastic trophy.

For this guy to charge that much is insane. I know a few guys in the circuit that try to charge people that much.

That said, a fool is born every day. If you want Glass to train you, go ahead and waste your money.

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« Reply #16 on: January 05, 2018, 10:43:24 AM »
Would love to have a training session with you, OMR!

I can't pretend to know how to train anyone.

I just stick to the basics nowadays. I hope you've been well.

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« Reply #17 on: January 05, 2018, 10:56:15 AM »
Lol. Haters. He deserves every penny. Respect.

lol. He doesn't "deserve" every penny. Bodybuilding is all drugs and genetics. He uses false advertising and his former clients to pump up his prices and delude people he's training into thinking his methods are somehow "superior" Would you pay him 225/hr? Of corse you wouldn't because you know the reality of the situation. So you're just hypocritical and really don't truly believe what you're saying.

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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #18 on: January 05, 2018, 11:15:18 AM »
plus he is not gonna say his lowest rates or deals on the NY TIMES article

why cheapen your rate via the media? of course not dumb practice



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« Reply #19 on: January 05, 2018, 11:23:41 AM »
lol. He doesn't "deserve" every penny. Bodybuilding is all drugs and genetics. He uses false advertising and his former clients to pump up his prices and delude people he's training into thinking his methods are somehow "superior" Would you pay him 225/hr? Of corse you wouldn't because you know the reality of the situation. So you're just hypocritical and really don't truly believe what you're saying.


How is that false advertising? He's a celebrity trainer. He's high profile, he has high profile clients and is more in demand. Therefore he can charge more. Celebrity anything costs more, why should he be charging $18/hour when people literally beg him to train them on social media?



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Re: Charles Glass - NY Times
« Reply #20 on: January 05, 2018, 11:32:26 AM »
Did I read Silvio Samuel? I didn't know he is out of Jail    I personally don't think Dex can afford 225 an hour, he prolly pays around 50, given the fact is a 5 days a week regimen

Silvio is definitely out and training at Gold’s. Plus the back photo of him standing next to Glass in NY Times article looks very solid.

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« Reply #21 on: January 05, 2018, 12:24:23 PM »

How is that false advertising? He's a celebrity trainer. He's high profile, he has high profile clients and is more in demand. Therefore he can charge more. Celebrity anything costs more, why should he be charging $18/hour when people literally beg him to train them on social media?




Oh so because other people do it, it's not false advertising? Virtually the whole supplement industry and bodybuilding industry is based upon false advertising. Not saying other people don't do it. But he certainly does. Why do we try to distinguish people like Rich Gaspari, Kevin Levrone, and people like this apart? Saying this guy has better mores than the other blah blah blah. They all sell snake oil to the public and overprice it. They're all pieces of shit, but they're decent businessmen who are capitalizing on their past work. Doesn't make it just.

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« Reply #22 on: January 05, 2018, 12:30:51 PM »
Silvio is definitely out and training at Gold’s. Plus the back photo of him standing next to Glass in NY Times article looks very solid.

Is Silvio being trained by Glass?
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« Reply #23 on: January 05, 2018, 12:55:28 PM »
Damn.
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« Reply #24 on: January 05, 2018, 01:00:26 PM »
Oh so because other people do it, it's not false advertising? Virtually the whole supplement industry and bodybuilding industry is based upon false advertising. Not saying other people don't do it. But he certainly does. Why do we try to distinguish people like Rich Gaspari, Kevin Levrone, and people like this apart? Saying this guy has better mores than the other blah blah blah. They all sell snake oil to the public and overprice it. They're all pieces of shit, but they're decent businessmen who are capitalizing on their past work. Doesn't make it just.


I didn't say anything about other people doing it. I'm not even sure what "it" is. He's a trainer. He charges what people are willing to pay. People are willing to pay more because he's well-known and works with well-known people. Same with celebrity cooks and hairstylists. A meal or a haircut can only get so good, but people are willing to pay "celebrity" prices because of intangible factors. There are other options. You don't have to pay those prices if they are not for you.

And in defense of his training methods- he probably has a sliding scale for competitive bodybuilders, but even if he doesn't they may think he's worth it. They have the same information you do.  For an everyday lifter, training is simple: pick something up, put it down.  When you get to a more competitive level and the difference between being a champ and an also ran is stuff so minor most people wouldn't even notice, then maybe his guidance is helpful.