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Title: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Tre on November 29, 2006, 11:06:52 PM

Shut up, Albert.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2680495
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: tomr1976 on November 29, 2006, 11:09:52 PM
I do agree that Pujols deserved the MVP this year, especially considering that he sat out several weeks because of the groin injury.  At the rate he was hitting homers at the start of the season, he was on pace to break Bonds' so-called record of 73.  Pujols, I think, is baseball's greatest living hitter.  In his first five seasons he already has a lifetime average that puts him among the top ten, maybe five, hitters of all time.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: body88 on November 30, 2006, 07:14:20 AM
Most people outside of St Louis and Detroit did not give a shit that the cardinals won the World series. None cares that he is crying about getting beat by Howard. Howard deserved to win it. Lose with dignity for Christs sakes.Albert is letting himself turn into a porker! Should worry about himself 8)
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: The Squadfather on November 30, 2006, 07:19:31 AM
Most people outside of St Louis and Detroit did not give a shit that the cardinals won the World series. None cares that he is crying about getting beat by Howard. Howard deserved to win it. Lose with dignity for Christs sakes.Albert is letting himself turn into a porker! Should worry about himself 8)
you must be an anorexic metrosexual if you think Albert is a "porker".
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: ieffinhatecardio on November 30, 2006, 07:21:47 AM
Most people outside of St Louis and Detroit did not give a shit that the cardinals won the World series. None cares that he is crying about getting beat by Howard. Howard deserved to win it. Lose with dignity for Christs sakes.Albert is letting himself turn into a porker! Should worry about himself 8)

Exactly. Does he think crying to the public is going to help his cause or make him appear sympathetic?

Howard had an absolute MONSTER season, he's clearly the most valuable player to the Phillies, was Pujols more valuable to the Cardinals than Howard was to the Phillies? I don't think so.

Howard is a younger version of David Ortiz. If he stays healthy he has the chance to be one of the all time great power hitters.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: body88 on November 30, 2006, 07:26:12 AM
you must be an anorexic metrosexual if you think Albert is a "porker".


You do not think Albert has let himself go on the last few years? The comment sounds gay but it is true.

I am currently 13  percent bf so I am not "anorexic".
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: The Squadfather on November 30, 2006, 07:28:08 AM

You do not think Albert has let himself go on the last few years? The comment sounds gay but it is true.
he was a little skinny when he came up and looks normal now, like i said, it seems like the rage now is for "men" to be built like women supermodels, you must be one of those guys.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: body88 on November 30, 2006, 07:29:04 AM
Whatever you say.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: LAMA-PAI on November 30, 2006, 07:49:50 AM
they where both deserving of the award !
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: funk51 on November 30, 2006, 08:24:58 AM
while both guys were deserving of the award, pujols missed games you can't help your team on the dl, advantage howard. the phillies traded bobby abreu one of their top players at one point the younger players took over the clubhouse jimmy rollins chase utely, and howard result all of the sudden they were back in the playoff hunt.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: OneBigMan on November 30, 2006, 08:33:02 AM
Jose Cansico had zero legitimacy writing that 2005fiction book when he was using all those anabolic substances with his teammates during and also at the end of his career when he played for the Yankees. Macho Canseco is a example of why celebrities like to turn into informants in order to expose their friends turned enemies in their profession.

Wayne Demelia was so correct when he gave a interview where Wayne talked about why bodybuilding should have never been singled out as the sport of steroids. We all knew that the juiced bodies were also the ones wearing different Major League uniforms. That was much more than the supplement stories circulated by those media watchers who jumped on the anti-creatine hype/propaganda act when andro became a issue in the late 90's time because of who broke what home run record once or twice.

That controversial clinton time when all the condemnation of creatine was increasing still bothers me >:(
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Jujoshu on November 30, 2006, 11:50:33 AM
Albert is actually a good size now for what he does. I know the guy that trains him in the off season and trust me he works very hard. They want him to carry some extra bulk to drive the ball-especially considering he's never going to be a speedster anyway. IMO he should have won the MVP again. He's a better hitter than Howard and his team won the World Series. Albert paid his dues finishing second to Bonds in the MVP race all those years when Albert was putting up better numbers. No doubt the best hitter in the game and unless he has a career ending type of injury should eventually go down as one of the top 10 best hitters of all time.  :o How can you be the league's most valuable player when your team doesn't even get to the playoffs?
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Blockhead on November 30, 2006, 12:26:00 PM

 This is all GREAT news!

 Hopefully the media will KEEP on shining negative light on steroids and keep on giving steroids a 'bad name'.

 Hopefully...the media will pain the picture of steroids being EVIL drugs responsible for all amazing sports endevors known to man. I hope it never ends...

 Those of you here on the same page as me...know why.

 Cha-ching!
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: bmacsys on November 30, 2006, 01:07:36 PM
Exactly. Does he think crying to the public is going to help his cause or make him appear sympathetic?



Latin players tend to whine alot. Thats the way it is.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Jujoshu on November 30, 2006, 02:18:37 PM
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Latin players tend to whine alot. Thats the way it is.
Gross generalization.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Blockhead on November 30, 2006, 02:20:48 PM

 Not nearly as much as negroe ball players.
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Post by: bmacsys on November 30, 2006, 03:52:33 PM
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Latin players tend to whine alot. Thats the way it is.
Gross generalization.

Yes it is. But its true.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: bmacsys on November 30, 2006, 03:53:49 PM
Not nearly as much as negroe ball players.

There are very few black guys playing major league baseball these days.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Jujoshu on November 30, 2006, 03:55:32 PM
Well, I didn't see Albert whining at all during the playoffs when he
played with a pulled hamstring. I guess he was whining all the way
to that Championship trophy. Sucks to be him.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: mar10s on November 30, 2006, 03:56:29 PM
A bit off topic, but a baseball topic...I see McGuire is up for baseball HOF this year.  I don't think he'll get in, but I wouldn't mind seeing him get in.  I think he and Sammy Sosa saved baseball a bit and brought back excitement to the game when they were racing for the homerun title (in 98??).  People loved to watch that sh*t.  After they find out they may have been on juice, then they want no part of it?? ???
What do you think?  Would you vote him in?
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: bmacsys on November 30, 2006, 03:57:09 PM
IMO he should have won the MVP again. He's a better hitter than Howard and his team won the World Series.

World Series don't mean shit as far as winning an MVP. The MVP voting is done the day after the regular season ends.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: bmacsys on November 30, 2006, 03:59:01 PM
A bit off topic, but a baseball topic...I see McGuire is up for baseball HOF this year.  I don't think he'll get in, but I wouldn't mind seeing him get in.  I think he and Sammy Sosa saved baseball a bit and brought back excitement to the game when they were racing for the homerun title (in 98??).  People loved to watch that sh*t.  After they find out they may have been on juice, then they want no part of it?? ???
What do you think?  Would you vote him in?

I said it before on Getbig, none of the steroid guys get in first ballot. Not big Mac, not Sosa. I don't thing that moron Palmiero will ever get in.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: The Squadfather on November 30, 2006, 04:00:55 PM
I said it before on Getbig, none of the steroid guys get in first ballot. Not big Mac, not Sosa. I don't thing that moron Palmiero will ever get in.
Palmiero has freaky numbers, 500 homeruns, 3000 hits, but the lying and the steroid bullshit will haunt him.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Jujoshu on November 30, 2006, 04:01:34 PM
Okay, so by your logic a guy that doesn't make the playoffs is more
valuable to his losing team than a guy that is the best player on a team
that wins a World Championship? Even though the voting was done before
the World Series there isn't a person who knows baseball that would say
Ryan Howard was more valuable to his Phillies than Pujols was to his Cardinals.  ::)
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: bmacsys on December 01, 2006, 06:13:01 AM
Okay, so by your logic a guy that doesn't make the playoffs is more
valuable to his losing team than a guy that is the best player on a team
that wins a World Championship? Even though the voting was done before
the World Series there isn't a person who knows baseball that would say
Ryan Howard was more valuable to his Phillies than Pujols was to his Cardinals.  ::)

NO! You said the Pujols team won the World Series so that should be taken into account in the MVP voting. My reply was the World Series doesn't mean jack shit in the MVP voting because the MVP voting is done way before the World Series even STARTS.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: bmacsys on December 01, 2006, 06:17:39 AM
What do you guys think of this? I admit I don't know what Pujols said about the MVP voting but the word is he complained about not winning. Contrast this with Jeter who didn't say boo even though some moron sportswriter with an agenda in Chicago had Jeter 8th. He effectively torpedoed Jeter's MVP bid. Does anyone here think big Papi hurt his chances by talking up that he should get the nod over Jeter because he is a power hitter and Jeter is only a table setter?
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Earl1972 on December 01, 2006, 06:18:43 AM
Most people outside of St Louis and Detroit did not give a shit that the cardinals won the World series.

yeah why was this world series so quiet?

I don't think anybody here even started a "cards win" thread

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Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Jujoshu on December 01, 2006, 07:58:17 AM
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NO! You said the Pujols team won the World Series so that should be taken into account in the MVP voting.
Ummm, no. What I said was Howard wasn't more valuable to his team than Pujols in the grand scheme of things. The way I see it is he led the league in homers and he's on an East Coast team so he got more votes. Also, when the voting took place there were a lot of people who thought the Cardinals weren't going to do anything so I'm sure that didn't help Albert's cause. So, in actuality, you are rewarding a guy on a losing team. Much like Arizona's pitcher winning the Cy Young award. In a perfect world they would vote after the playoffs to factor in who actually contributed the most for his team's cause.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Flex 215 on December 01, 2006, 11:24:54 AM
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NO! You said the Pujols team won the World Series so that should be taken into account in the MVP voting.
Ummm, no. What I said was Howard wasn't more valuable to his team than Pujols in the grand scheme of things. The way I see it is he led the league in homers and he's on an East Coast team so he got more votes. Also, when the voting took place there were a lot of people who thought the Cardinals weren't going to do anything so I'm sure that didn't help Albert's cause. So, in actuality, you are rewarding a guy on a losing team. Much like Arizona's pitcher winning the Cy Young award. In a perfect world they would vote after the playoffs to factor in who actually contributed the most for his team's cause.

    How are the Phillies a losing team?

    They won 2 more games then the Cardinals did, but didn't make the playoffs because thay were in the Met's division. If the Phillies were in the Central Division, then the Cardinals would have been playing golf the first week of October.

    And even still, they were in contention for the wild card right up through the last weekend of the season. While the Cardinals were trying not to become one of the biggest chokers in history, and piss away the division to the Astros. I could maybe see your point if Philadelphia was out of the race by Sept. , but they were in it till the end.

    Plus, like already pointed out in this thread, Albert missed time, and the Phillies had given up on the year, and still made a run.

    I think the voters got it right!
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: Jujoshu on December 01, 2006, 01:11:33 PM
The Cardinals had a fair lead in their division at the end but couldn't be deemed chokers regardless considering the team was unhealthy. Thus, you weren't seeing the real team at the end of the season until about playoff time. That being said, it matters not who won the most games within a division as evidenced by the fact that several of the recent World Series winners were wild card teams. What matters is how a team finishes regardless if they win their division by half a game or by 20 games. Technically speaking anyone who is not the champion is a "loser". However, some will say that anyone who has a successful run and makes it into post season is successful. Because the Phillies didn't even make the playoffs and had no chance to win the whole thing they are deemed a losing team as a matter of expression.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: controldenied33 on December 01, 2006, 06:25:34 PM
Voters got it right....Cry me a river Albert.
Title: Re: More baseball roid rage
Post by: DIVISION on December 02, 2006, 07:26:31 AM
Shut up, Albert.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2680495

Albert has beef.....

He's more clutch than Howard and that bears out in the numbers....

The only reason Howard won is because his HR/RBI totals were off the map...

If Pujols was healthy, his stats would be similiar PLUS he actually hits with runners on base...

Howard does not.



DIV