Zimmerman - Self Defense Class or Benching 500 an Up? whats next?

[chaos]

240 I know you're looking for the conspiracy here, but the story read the Zimmers story had been backed up by witnesses, didn't it?

BTW I'm not saying he was right for shooting the kid, I wasn't there, I don't know.

[240 is Back]

240 I know you're looking for the conspiracy here, but the story read the Zimmers story had been backed up by witnesses, didn't it?

BTW I'm not saying he was right for shooting the kid, I wasn't there, I don't know.

I think he should be charged with being an obnoxious fat douchebag who interfered with police investigation by pursuing him when told not to.

I carry a gun and go out of my way to avoid situations like this.  I got my ass kicked once, never drew my gun.  I took the hits, while a glock was in my pants, because I knew the law.

This little punk can't take an asswhooping so he draws a gun.  Coward.

[El Diablo Blanco]

No one knows the true situation.  but the world is better off today anyways.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

Trayvon Martin shooting: George Zimmerman says Trayvon decked him, then began hammering his head
Orlando Sentinel via Sun-Sentinel ^ | Monday, March 26, 2012 | Rene Stutzman



...Police Say

With a single punch, Trayvon Martin decked the Neighborhood Watch volunteer who eventually shot and killed the unarmed 17-year-old, then Trayvon climbed on top of George Zimmerman and slammed his head into the sidewalk several times, leaving him bloody and battered, authorities have revealed to the Orlando Sentinel.

That is the account Zimmerman gave police, and much of it has been corroborated by witnesses, authorities say.

Zimmerman has not spoken publicly about what happened, but that night, Feb. 26, and in later meetings he described and re-enacted for police what he says happened.

In his version of events, he had turned around and was walking back to his SUV when Trayvon approached him from behind, the two exchanged words then Trayvon punched him in the nose, sending him to the ground, and began beating him.

Zimmerman told police he shot the teenager in self-defense.

SNIP

Police have been reluctant to provided details about all their evidence, but this is what they've disclosed to the Sentinel:

Zimmerman was on his way to the grocery store when he spotted Trayvon walking through his gated community.

Trayvon was visiting his father's fiancée, who lived there. He had been suspended from school in Miami after being found with an empty marijuana baggie. Miami schools have a zero-tolerance policy for drug possession.

Zimmerman called police and reported a suspicious person, describing Trayvon as black, acting strangely and perhaps on drugs.

Zimmerman got out of his SUV to follow Trayvon on foot. When a dispatch employee asked Zimmerman if he was following the 17-year-old, Zimmerman said yes. The dispatcher told Zimmerman he did not need to do that.

There is about a one-minute gap during which police say they're not sure what happened.


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Trayvon was exercising the "Stand Your Ground" Law.  He was being chased by Zimmerman and he stood his ground and beat his ass.  Good for him to go out swinging.  Zimmerman only shot him because he got beat up.

Zimmerman isn't a police officer and should not have tried to act like one.      

[240 is Back]

Trayvon was exercising the "Stand Your Ground" Law.  He was being chased by Zimmerman and he stood his ground and beat his ass.  Good for him to go out swinging.  Zimmerman only shot him because he got beat up.

Zimmerman isn't a police officer and should not have tried to act like one.       

he is going to set back permit rights.  Cause he tried to be the hero and got his ass whooped, and resorted to the gun. 

And after exaggerating shit to the cops on the phone, he isn't credible.  "looks like he is on drugs" and "something hin his waistband" are things you say to incite police to arrive with itchy trigger fingers.  Sounds like he had one too.  This fuuck should never touch a firearm again.

[Vince G, CSN MFT]

he is going to set back permit rights.  Cause he tried to be the hero and got his ass whooped, and resorted to the gun. 

And after exaggerating shit to the cops on the phone, he isn't credible.  "looks like he is on drugs" and "something hin his waistband" are things you say to incite police to arrive with itchy trigger fingers.  Sounds like he had one too.  This fuuck should never touch a firearm again.

Sadly he is going to do that. 

[chaos]

Hmmm....you guys don't seem to give a fuck on a daily basis when innocent kids are killed all across this country...sounds to me like you guys fell right into the media brainwashing.
You're thinking with emotions, not facts.

Lol.

[Parker]

Did I just read in that story that when asked if he was following the kid he says yes and is told not to so he's walking back to his truck when the kid approached him from behind?

Am I misreading or are the last several posters just skipping that fact? And the fact his story is corroborated by several witnesses?

Lol. Yeah, its terrible the kid died, but the more info the police release, the less this kid looks like some Parker walking down the street all innocent.

Zimmerman told police he he'd lost sight of Martin and was heading back to his car when the youth suddenly stepped into his path. According to the Sentinel, Martin asked Zimmerman if he had a problem. Zimmerman said no and reached for his cellphone. Martin then said something like, "Well, you do now" and punched him, according to the Sentinel's sources.


Now, keep in mind that this is what the papers print, and it's not the actual statement of facts

but, it makes no damn sense. How are you going to lose sight of someone, and then all of sudden they step in your path? That is bullshit, fatboy was prolly thinking of a story to save his ass after he shot the kid...

If you lose sight of someone, either they are too far away, or turned a corner, something.

That's the prolem with alibis like this, too many holes.

Trayvon The Invisible Negro all of sudden pop up...

[Soul Crusher]

Hmmm....you guys don't seem to give a fuck on a daily basis when innocent kids are killed all across this country...sounds to me like you guys fell right into the media brainwashing.
You're thinking with emotions, not facts.

Lol.

Its all media driven emotional garbage.   16 shot dead in Chicago last weekend alone not a peep from the race hustlers and poverty pimps.  

[Army of One]

Trayvon The Invisible Negro all of sudden pop up...

It was dark

[Parker]

It was dark

Seal was slumming it that night.

[240 is Back]

but, it makes no damn sense. How are you going to lose sight of someone, and then all of sudden they step in your path? That is bullshit, fatboy was prolly thinking of a story to save his ass after he shot the kid...

ZImmer had already shown he was prone to exaggeration.   "looks like they're on drugs" is the biggest, lame bullshit thing you can tell cops.  Even worse - and something that'll make cops show up ready to blast - is the old "I see something in his waistband" to imply the kid was armed.

[Soul Crusher]

Mother Seeks Trayvon Martin Trademarks
The Smoking Gun ^ | 3/26/12 | The Smoking Gun



MARCH 26--The mother of Trayvon Martin has filed two applications to secure trademarks containing her late son’s name, records show.

Sabrina Fulton is seeking marks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings made last week with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. In both instances, Fulton is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products.


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[Archer77]

 I support minority entrepreneurs.  Hey, if someone is going to shamelessly make a quick buck off her sons death it might as well be her.

[shootfighter1]

I guess it will be interesting when all the info comes out.  Still seems the police f'ed it up.  But how inappropriate and irresponsible for the media to fan fires of racism and injustice when they don't even know what the hell happened.  Calling for an investigation is absolutely appropriate but condemning Zimmerman without facts is not their job.  Either is Pres Obama getting into this.  I f'n hate the media...anything for shock value and ratings.  What happened to unbiased reporting...gone.

[RustyTrenbolona]

 

[Archer77]

I guess it will be interesting when all the info comes out.  Still seems the police f'ed it up.  But how inappropriate and irresponsible for the media to fan fires of racism and injustice when they don't even know what the hell happened.  Calling for an investigation is absolutely appropriate but condemning Zimmerman without facts is not their job.  Either is Pres Obama getting into this.  I f'n hate the media...anything for shock value and ratings.  What happened to unbiased reporting...gone.

Profit became involved.  Ratings mean more dollars from those cialis commercials

[Nails]

Trayvon worth more dead then alive...  

[Soul Crusher]

Mother Seeks Trayvon Martin Trademarks
The Smoking Gun ^ | 3/26/12 | The Smoking Gun


MARCH 26--The mother of Trayvon Martin has filed two applications to secure trademarks containing her late son’s name, records show.

Sabrina Fulton is seeking marks for the phrases “I Am Trayvon” and “Justice for Trayvon,” according to filings made last week with the United States Patent and Trademark Office. In both instances, Fulton is seeking the trademarks for use on “Digital materials, namely, CDs and DVDs featuring Trayvon Martin,” and other products.


(Excerpt) Read more at thesmokinggun.com ...

[tu_holmes]

I guess it will be interesting when all the info comes out.  Still seems the police f'ed it up.  But how inappropriate and irresponsible for the media to fan fires of racism and injustice when they don't even know what the hell happened.  Calling for an investigation is absolutely appropriate but condemning Zimmerman without facts is not their job.  Either is Pres Obama getting into this.  I f'n hate the media...anything for shock value and ratings.  What happened to unbiased reporting...gone.

If someone hadn't brought up racism, you wouldn't have an investigation.

That's just the way it is... How is this about the "media" again?

[RustyTrenbolona]

DISPATCHERS NEVER INSTRUCT CALLERS TO GO CATCH THE ROBBER OR SHOOT HIM. THEY DONT EVEN TELL PEOPLE TO DO CPR. THINK ABOUT IT

So if the dispatcher said it was ok to follow, investigate, or shoot martin (which would never happen in a million yeasr) it would be ok lol?

If im face to face with imminent danger and have a weapon pointed at it the DISPATCHER WILL NEVER TELL ME TO FIRE he will always say wait for the cop.




THE DISPATCHER ARGUMENT IS INVALID

HAVE A GOOD DAY

[RustyTrenbolona]

Paraphernalia...in many states as an adult, police wouldn't even spend time charging you.

Parker are you shitting me? lol he was suspended from HIGHSCHOOL by a TEACHER for an empty weed baggy. This is not lawenforcement. DOnt kno where you went to HS but if a teacher had dound me with cigarettes i would have been out for a week letalone an empty "sandwhich bag" and yea if a cop wanted to be a cock sucker he could easily pull a misdeamanor for an empty baggie. cmon 

[tu_holmes]

DISPATCHERS NEVER INSTRUCT CALLERS TO GO CATCH THE ROBBER OR SHOOT HIM. THEY DONT EVEN TELL PEOPLE TO DO CPR. THINK ABOUT IT

So if the dispatcher said it was ok to follow, investigate, or shoot martin (which would never happen in a million yeasr) it would be ok lol?

If im face to face with imminent danger and have a weapon pointed at it the DISPATCHER WILL NEVER TELL ME TO FIRE he will always say wait for the cop.




THE DISPATCHER ARGUMENT IS INVALID

HAVE A GOOD DAY

Who gives a shit what the dispatcher said?

The bottom line is that he CHASED A kid and shot him.

If a cop had done that, shit would be hitting the fan... Much less a citizen.

As a gun owner, this guy has probably fucked shit up for everyone... He's a buffoon. He has a gun, shot an unarmed kid, and now I'll be busy trying to fight anti-gun control legislation because of it for the next 10 years.s

What an unthinking piece of shit.

[RustyTrenbolona]

Who gives a shit what the dispatcher said?

The bottom line is that he CHASED A kid and shot him.

If a cop had done that, shit would be hitting the fan... Much less a citizen.

As a gun owner, this #### has probably fucked shit up for everyone... He's a buffoon. He has a gun, shot an unarmed kid, and now I'll be busy trying to fight anti-gun control legislation because of it for the next 10 years.s

What an unthinking piece of shit.

yea who gives a shit? tell that to the morons that keep moaning about how he shot a kid even when the dispatcher told him not to. like everyone

ps he was neighborhoodwatch captain he followed a possible crook was accosted by the crook shot the crook....u havedont worry your guns are safe actually no, wait gimme all your guns  now

[tu_holmes]

yea who gives a shit? tell that to the morons that keep moaning about how he shot a kid even when the dispatcher told him not to. like everyone

Everyone (apparently not everyone) is simply just relaying what a person who has some position inside of a police hierarchy is saying to a moronic citizen.

Obviously the dispatcher has no more special power than anyone, but let's be clear, if all of the reports are true, then Zimmerman basically stalked and killed an unarmed kid. That's all there is to it.