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Overhead Squats
« on: September 27, 2024, 04:21:48 AM »
So what sort of weight are you guys using on these?


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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #1 on: September 28, 2024, 02:45:07 PM »
I can't remember exactly but around 225. I always used them as a warm up, not as any sort of mass or strength builder.
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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #2 on: September 28, 2024, 06:29:31 PM »
I can't remember exactly but around 225. I always used them as a warm up, not as any sort of mass or strength builder.
That's a good weight to use on such an exercise..

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #3 on: October 02, 2024, 08:36:01 AM »
I don't use the snatch anymore but I used the Split snatch when I did. I would have no use for exercise.

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #4 on: October 05, 2024, 04:08:14 AM »
I´m just wondering about the load on the spine on the overhead press, then the spine must spread an equal load over the whole length, is there a difference to the back squat where most get lower back problems?
I want to equally spread the load & this is why i think the overhead squat might be a good exercise.
with a sensible weight of course ... ;)

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #5 on: October 06, 2024, 03:27:16 PM »
I´m just wondering about the load on the spine on the overhead press, then the spine must spread an equal load over the whole length, is there a difference to the back squat where most get lower back problems?
I want to equally spread the load & this is why i think the overhead squat might be a good exercise.
with a sensible weight of course ... ;)
I never felt any issues with my lower back. I did feel pressure in my shoulders if I didn't warm up fully.
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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #6 on: October 07, 2024, 03:29:57 AM »
Gives much disconfort and soreness in my piriformis muscles afterwards. Have to ice them at the end of the workout. Maybe due to the enhanced stabilization required.

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #7 on: October 08, 2024, 01:08:25 AM »
Christ I couldn`t do those on my best day with even a broomstick.  :(

The first time I tried snatching 95 pounds the bar came crashing down on my head and almost killed my dumbass.

After that the only thing I did that resembled any Olympic lifting was Dead Hang Cleans.........used to love those babies.

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #8 on: October 08, 2024, 05:52:24 AM »
Gives much disconfort and soreness in my piriformis muscles afterwards. Have to ice them at the end of the workout. Maybe due to the enhanced stabilization required.

I find slightly elevating my heels helps to keep a more stable body position & deeper squat.


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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #9 on: October 08, 2024, 06:56:44 AM »
I congratulate guys that can do this exercise. I don't have the mobility. I couldn't do a full squat holding a 135lb bar in the snatch grip over head. You need some serious mobility to be able to accomplish that. It was the reason I used the split snatch when I was on a snatch kick years ago. 

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #10 on: October 08, 2024, 07:02:36 AM »
I congratulate guys that can do this exercise. I don't have the mobility. I couldn't do a full squat holding a 135lb bar in the snatch grip over head. You need some serious mobility to be able to accomplish that. It was the reason I used the split snatch when I was on a snatch kick years ago.

a sensible weight has to be used..it´s not like a normal squat & if doing say 10 reps with good form you can´t train like a powerlifter.
I see it as an exercise to train stability & dare i say it "core strength"

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #11 on: October 08, 2024, 12:47:18 PM »
I find slightly elevating my heels helps to keep a more stable body position & deeper squat.
Thank you for the advice. Nevertheless  i have short femurs, i go deeper than Platz, minus the poundages.

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #12 on: October 08, 2024, 10:11:19 PM »
Thank you for the advice. Nevertheless  i have short femurs, i go deeper than Platz, minus the poundages.
Yes everyone is different...just what works for me.
Just a slight raise but I'm just getting the technique polished at the moment using just an Olympic bar

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #13 on: October 12, 2024, 02:41:37 PM »
Gives much disconfort and soreness in my piriformis muscles afterwards. Have to ice them at the end of the workout. Maybe due to the enhanced stabilization required.
May be a stance issue as well, I found I really had to points knees and toes outward to get that deep stretch.
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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #14 on: October 22, 2024, 11:35:49 AM »
I congratulate guys that can do this exercise. I don't have the mobility. I couldn't do a full squat holding a 135lb bar in the snatch grip over head. You need some serious mobility to be able to accomplish that. It was the reason I used the split snatch when I was on a snatch kick years ago.
I wouldn't want the mobility to do them. Too much risk for very minimal gain if any.

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2024, 11:47:36 AM »
I wouldn't want the mobility to do them. Too much risk for very minimal gain if any.

I'm 64 & can do them - only I don't as I the benefits to risk ratio
isnt worth it to me & I can back squat upwards of 450lbs & thats
far more beneficial for my legs than 135lbs overhead squats.

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2024, 12:33:47 AM »
I'm 64 & can do them - only I don't as I the benefits to risk ratio
isnt worth it to me & I can back squat upwards of 450lbs & thats
far more beneficial for my legs than 135lbs overhead squats.
Yeah, why risk getting hurt with no benefit of hypertrophy?

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2024, 02:24:32 AM »
I don't see it as a replacement for Squats but it has other benefits as an accessory exercise.
https://www.masterclass.com/articles/overhead-squat-guide#2ahxMYnuIbcAeLo4ELqDKu

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #18 on: October 31, 2024, 12:25:50 AM »
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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #19 on: November 02, 2024, 04:35:25 AM »
Amazing strength 💪

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #20 on: November 02, 2024, 08:33:01 AM »
Amazing strength 💪

Geez! It was almost more impressive to see him walk it out like that.
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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #21 on: November 02, 2024, 09:02:20 AM »
Geez! It was almost more impressive to see him walk it out like that.

his lower back strength is amazing.. the whole back is in unison

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #22 on: November 02, 2024, 09:15:58 AM »
his lower back strength is amazing.. the whole back is in unison
His shoulder strength is impressive. Have you tried overhead squats yet? For me personally the shoulders were always the limiting factor.
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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2024, 09:32:21 AM »
His shoulder strength is impressive. Have you tried overhead squats yet? For me personally the shoulders were always the limiting factor.

yes i am doing them but as i wrote before i started just with an empty Olympic Barbell.
I am using 60 KG at the moment which is OK for learning i think.

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Re: Overhead Squats
« Reply #24 on: November 02, 2024, 12:31:23 PM »
It's definitely an exercise that has to be built up to perfection.  Learning the movement first.
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