Haha! Not enough guys in this thread have been in enough fights.
Want to see how far your fists get you? Go bounce at a strip club frequented by bikers. Then wait for a rival gang to show up with their colors on. Then see how far fighting gets you, or how macho you want to be. I did it, and I can tell you, the guys on the staff who fought were the guys who got fucked up real quick. Guys who spoke well and talked themselves out of trouble lived, earned respect, and made money.
A real man is smart enough to not get himself into a position where he needs to fight, he looks for easy quick ways out of a physical fight so he doesn't get hurt/killed.
You idiots fail to realize: you're the direct descendants of men who knew how to avoid fighting so they didn't lose a leg/arm/life before they were able to reproduce. They were smart. Why insist on being stupid?
Don't fight. Only an idiot lives up to a perceived macho persona. Guys like that get drilled in real life by tougher guys, and usually end up dead, in jail, or at least hurt real bad.
Wanna know what happens to smart guys who don't fight? They make more money, stay out of prison, don't invite retributive justice on themselves and their families from those they hurt in previous fights...
You guys act like it's one punch, done, and everyone shakes hands and goes to have a beer.
Tell that to my friend Howard Gairy. He was bouncing at a bar back home. Got into with this asian kid who wouldn't go thru the metal detector. Howard got up in his face a bit and shoved the kid. The kid took off embarassed. Rerturned, and shot Howard in the stomach. Howard waited on the sidewalk and bled to death waiting for 25 minutes for an ambulance to show up.
Howard could have called the cops. Could have talked to this asian kid instead of getting tough with him. But he didn't. He chose the macho route. Now he's dead.