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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #650 on: July 09, 2015, 02:20:41 PM »
WTF?  ???

How is that even possible!?!?

I can understand maybe not being first place but 7th??

they're averaging in OLD polls  ;)

Cause early June should dictate who debates in August.   Everything before June 17, when he declared...

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #651 on: July 09, 2015, 02:21:57 PM »
they're averaging in OLD polls  ;)

Cause early June should dictate who debates in August.   Everything before June 17, when he declared...

Even though Donald is pulling in a significant number of "second choice" votes, he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would settle for the VP position.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #652 on: July 09, 2015, 02:25:00 PM »
Even though Donald is pulling in a significant number of "second choice" votes, he doesn't strike me as the kind of guy who would settle for the VP position.

if it reaches that point - a brokered convention where #1 jeb bribes Trump to be the veep so they can get on with it..

Trump will already have a LOT of skin in the game and believe he'll stick with politics.   He's 69, he'll have retired/sealed/ended many biz relationships by that point.  His legacy will be "wait 4-8 more years", and that'll make him 72 or 77 and zero chance.

Trump can pretty much retire from business, he's ended so much of it over this POTUS run.  SPending 4-8 years in the white house (as a lazy veep) is an awesome retirement.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #653 on: July 09, 2015, 04:39:12 PM »
if it reaches that point - a brokered convention where #1 jeb bribes Trump to be the veep so they can get on with it..

Trump will already have a LOT of skin in the game and believe he'll stick with politics.   He's 69, he'll have retired/sealed/ended many biz relationships by that point.  His legacy will be "wait 4-8 more years", and that'll make him 72 or 77 and zero chance.

Trump can pretty much retire from business, he's ended so much of it over this POTUS run.  SPending 4-8 years in the white house (as a lazy veep) is an awesome retirement.

Not in his blood, 240.

A man like Trump has to own the board room.

It's all he's ever known.

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« Reply #654 on: July 09, 2015, 08:24:20 PM »
Not in his blood, 240.

A man like Trump has to own the board room.

It's all he's ever known.

he's 69 though.   His TV days are over.  He's not going to move down to a second rate

I think for his story, his career... crowning it with 4 or 8 years as VEEP would be pretty badass.

That is, of course, if he doesn't win the whole doggone thing.  Trump has shown us really how much of wimps the rest of the party is.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #655 on: July 09, 2015, 08:52:13 PM »
he's 69 though.   His TV days are over.  He's not going to move down to a second rate

I think for his story, his career... crowning it with 4 or 8 years as VEEP would be pretty badass.

That is, of course, if he doesn't win the whole doggone thing.  Trump has shown us really how much of wimps the rest of the party is.

Still say it's far fetched but what the hell...I'm sure Dick Cheney sat in office for 8 years thinking he was smarter than Bush.

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #656 on: July 09, 2015, 08:54:07 PM »
Still say it's far fetched but what the hell...I'm sure Dick Cheney sat in office for 8 years thinking he was smarter than Bush.

7 billion people knew cheney was smarter than Bush.  But cheney knew he'd never be president. 

I don't see how Jeb could stomach trump after trump shit on jeb's wife... but in a brokered convention, which we may see, anything can happen. 

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #657 on: July 13, 2015, 09:23:56 AM »
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker officially enters 2016 presidential race
By Terence Burlij, MJ Lee and Tom LoBianco, CNN
Mon July 13, 2015

(CNN)Scott Walker, the political phenomenon who rose to national fame by taking on unions in one of the most blue-collar states, tweeted Monday morning confirming that he'll seek the Republican nomination for president, just hours ahead of his in-person announcement.

"I'm in. I'm running for president because Americans deserve a leader who will fight and win for them," Walker tweeted, signing the message with his initials "SW," indicating it was written by him and not his staff.

Walker also put out a video Monday morning, outlining his political history and why he thinks he would be the best candidate to be president.

"America needs new fresh leadership and big bold from outside of Washington to actually get things done. In Wisconsin we didn't nibble around the edges, we enacted big bold reforms, took power out of the hands of big govt special interests and gave it to the hardworking taxpayers," Walker said in the video.

His Monday afternoon event in Waukesha, Wisconsin -- a Republican enclave just outside Milwaukee -- will be a remarkable political milestone for the 47-year-old second-term governor, who vaulted from the obscurity of the Milwaukee County executive to the top tier of a presidential campaign, thanks in large part to a historic gubernatorial recall effort that nearly ended his career in 2012.

In his first foray into a presidential campaign, Walker -- one of the most recognizable and polarizing governors in the country -- has emerged as a potentially formidable opponent to former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush. Polling has consistently shown Walker leading the pack in Iowa, which borders southern Iowa, but he has fallen off in other national polling following a series of gaffes.

The biggest question for him now, as he becomes the 15th major-name Republican candidate, will be whether he can break out of the pack in other key states like New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada.

Walker has been a torchbearer for top conservative priorities, showing again this that he had a few more presents for the party's rightwing base. Just a day before he was set to kick off his campaign, Walker was signing a $73 billion budget that only narrowly made it to his desk

Included in there was the elimination of the "prevailing wage" -- a minimum wage for construction projects -- and a sizable cut to the state's university system. Walker was forced to backtrack, however, on an unannounced plan to curb government transparency by limiting access to public records.

Although Walker waited to launch his White House bid, he has been laying down the groundwork for a national campaign for months. The union-busting governor has been courting donors, traveling overseas and boosting his national profile by publicly tussling with President Barack Obama on issues like the nuclear deal with Iran.

The next several months will be a critical test for Walker. After his campaign announcement, the governor will crisscross the country, including a three-day RV tour through Iowa this coming weekend..

Taking on the unions
A few months after taking office in 2011, Walker signed a measure to curb collective bargaining rights for most public employees in the state, framing it as an effort to take on the "big government special interests" and give power back to Wisconsin taxpayers.

The move triggered fierce backlash from labor unions and their progressive allies, sparking massive protests at the state capitol in Madison.

Conservatives in Wisconsin and around the country came to Walker's defense, helping the governor withstand a recall effort in 2012. Walker went on to win re-election by six points in 2014, his third statewide victory in four years.

It is that recall experience, more than any other, that has helped lay the groundwork for Walker's presidential bid. At the time, Walker said his recall victory proved that "voters really do want leaders who stand up and make the tough decisions."

That is a message that Walker has promoted in recent months while exploring a presidential campaign, calling on the Republican Party to look for "fresh leadership" and someone with "big, bold ideas and the courage to act on it."

Veteran GOP strategist Kevin Madden, who served as a senior adviser to Mitt Romney's presidential campaign in 2012, says Walker's union-busting efforts helped him to burnish his conservative credentials by demonstrating his ability to taken on "the national [Democratic]establishment" and beat them on three consecutive occasions.

Midwest appeal
Beyond his record as governor, Walker's Midwestern roots will be an invaluable asset in the GOP nominating fight -- Wisconsin voters haven't picked a Republican for president since 1984.

Walker is poised to make the case that his candidacy could put other Great Lakes states on the electoral map that have been out of reach for Republicans in recent cycles, including Michigan and Pennsylvania, which haven't voted for the GOP nominee since 1988.

"The path for a Republican to win the presidency comes through the Midwest," Walker told a crowd in Cedar Rapids, Iowa, in April. "It comes from Iowa and Wisconsin and Michigan and Ohio and we're even going to include Pennsylvania because they're part of the Big Ten," he added.

Walker also has a personal narrative that could enable him to appeal to low-income voters, a group Republicans lost overwhelmingly in 2008 and 2012, with the struggles in the latter campaign fueled in part by Mitt Romney's "47 percent" comments.

Walker is the son of a Baptist minister and an Eagle Scout, who attended Marquette University for three years before dropping out to take a job with the Red Cross. Walker has taken to citing his humble beginnings during recent appearances, setting up a contrast between his background and that of one of his key 2016 rivals -- Bush.

"I realize unlike some out there I didn't inherit fame or fortune from my family," Walker said during a speech to a Christian broadcasters convention in February. "I got a bunch of things that were a whole lot better than that. I got from my parents and my grandparents the belief that if you work hard and you play by the rules, here in America you can do and be anything you want."

Early stumbles
Walker has already experienced challenges that come with being thrust into the national spotlight in the months leading up to his campaign's official launch.

Unlike some of his peers in the Republican field like Bush, who lived through the White House campaigns of his father and brother, or former 2012 presidential candidates Rick Perry or Rick Santorum, Walker is facing head-on for the first time the reality of just how much scrutiny comes with a presidential campaign.

And it's shown.

Speaking at the Conservative Political Action Conference in February, Walker raised eyebrows when he seemed to compare the task of fighting ISIS to taking on thousands of protesters in his state.

Earlier

that month, a trip to London resulted in a slew of unflattering headlines when Walker, despite his best efforts to avoid making news during the overseas trip, punted on a question about the theory of evolution.

In March, several news outlets, including CNN, reported that at a private gathering in New Hampshire, Walker had endorsed a pathway for citizenship for undocumented immigrants. This would have marked a notable reversal for Walker who had staked out a more conservative position on the divisive issue, and pundits were quick to suggest that the governor had flip flopped.

Joe McQuaid, publisher of the New Hampshire Union Leader whose office is a must-visit early state stop for presidential candidates, remarked at the time that the controversy surrounding Walker's reported immigration remarks showed that this is the governor's "first time outside of Wisconsin."

"It is a guy in his first presidential campaign trying to get himself grounded and see where he needs to be nuanced," McQuaid said in a recent interview. "He hasn't dealt with these issues on a regular basis."

Building a fundraising operation
Walker could give Bush a run for his money.

Over the past few months, the governor has made aggressive overtures to wealthy financiers and prominent Republican donors, presenting himself as a conservative alternative to others in the field.

Bush's extensive fundraising network, founded on decades-old family friendships, will be difficult to compete with. But in the earliest stages of the campaign, Walker's political action committee, Our American Revival, has boasted impressive commitments and donations from prominent donors and bundlers in fundraising epicenters like New York, California and Texas.

And it's not just deep-pocketed donors that Walker is banking on.

The recall fight that made the governor a national figure could be a boon for his fundraising efforts among small-dollar donors.

Walker raised more than $30 million for the recall campaign, which helped him grow his donor to list to some 300,000 supporters. Walker and his supporters say they're eager to win over a new generation of donors.

"Our donor is not the tried and true Republican donor in New York City that's given to everybody since Reagan, Anthony Scaramucci, the founder of the investment firm SkyBridge Capital who is raising money for Walker, told CNN earlier this month. "We don't have the mercenary donor that's paying for past political favors."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/13/politics/scott-walker-2016-presidential-announcement/index.html

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #658 on: July 17, 2015, 02:43:07 PM »
First on CNN: Cruz super PAC's plan to win presidency
By Theodore Schleifer, CNN
Fri July 17, 2015

Washington (CNN)The $38 million super PAC supporting Ted Cruz plans to highlight polarizing issues as part of a full-throttle plan to turn out the white evangelical voters that can power him to victory, a new document reveals.

Keep the Promise, whose strategy is detailed in a 51-slide PowerPoint presentation titled "Can He Win?" recently posted to the organization's website, mercilessly attacks 2012 presidential candidate Mitt Romney as unable to elevate "wedge issues," or divisive issues that polarize voters, to the forefront of the Republican debate. Calling Romney a "terrible candidate with a terrible campaign," the slides pillory him as a Republican who managed to squander winnable states just like every other "loser" moderate candidate.

By deploying these issues and emphasizing his Hispanic heritage and religious roots, Cruz can win the presidency, the super PAC says.

The presentation, seemingly written to appeal to donors, syncs with much of the pitch that Cruz himself makes on the stump: that Republicans have their best chance of winning the White House if they nominate a clear-eyed conservative who can turn out the GOP base. But the presentation makes the fullest case yet for how Cruz's allies believe he has a path both to win the Republican nomination and then to defeat Hillary Clinton, who is mentioned by name in the presentation.

The motivation for posting the plan was unclear. Dathan Voelter, the treasurer of the super PAC, did not immediately respond to a request for comment Thursday afternoon.

On the slides' properties page, a person named Chris Sipes is listed as the "author." They were last edited on Sunday and come days after Cruz's campaign posted hours of unscored B-roll footage to an old YouTube account. The super PAC, which can't legally coordinate with the campaign, originally called on Cruz to upload exactly that. Sipes could not immediately be reached for comment.

A 'positive campaign'
The constellation of the four super PACs that comprise Keep the Promise, which together say they have raised $38 million, plans to begin a "positive campaign" in the early-voting states around the time of the first debate on August 6, according to the presentation. Cruz and his allies plan to highlight his "deep faith" in order to capitalize on "upside potential" that they believe the Texas Republican has not yet captured.

Using a May survey commissioned by the Republican polling firm TargetPoint, the super PAC argues that Cruz has the perfect mix of awareness and popularity with GOP primary voters. The only other candidates with more potential growth are Scott Walker and Marco Rubio, it argues.

Cruz has placed a heavy, although not exclusive, emphasis on Iowa, which tends to nominate more conservative candidates like himself. Yet his campaign has secured endorsements in states that don't vote until as late as June, and Cruz himself has mused openly about a brokered convention.

His super PAC, though, appears to think he may be able to score a quick win.

"Schedule is significantly different than past years -- favors more conservative candidate," reads one bullet point. "At least six well-funded candidates -- making it very difficult for Establishment to destroy the conservative challenger."

Three consecutive slides together emphasize Cruz's path to victory: "The calendar leans SOUTH," reads one. "The calendar leans RIGHT," reads the next. "The calendar leans CRUZ."

The super PAC is expected to be surprisingly well financed, and the presentation confirms that three of the top 10 super PAC donors in 2012 -- Robert Mercer, John Childs, and Bob McNair -- have all donated to the group. The super PAC is decentralized into four different organizations to give three clusters of donors -- Mercer, Toby Neugebauer, who has donated $10 million to the group, and a third unknown family -- more control over their contributions.

Keep the Promise highlights six candidates who they see as well-financed -- Donald Trump, Jeb Bush, Rand Paul, Rubio, Walker and Cruz -- but in ensuing slides, it takes down those competitors as insufficiently conservative by grading them on a spectrum of issues critical to the base.

Cruz allies also see him as having "the most complete portfolio of 'Assets'" compared to Bush, Paul, Rubio, Walker and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee. Only Cruz has tsihe five ingredients for a win: "Small dollar donors," "large super PAC,' "social media followers," "grass roots support," and "sophisticated data analysis."

Prospective Cruz backers also hear the super PAC pitch the accomplishments of the Houston-based campaign, over which it has no control but nevertheless says can run an "Obama" quality campaign.

"Campaign managed by great executives," reads one bullet point, "not people who can write and produce TV commercials."

Defeating Hillary
The organization has already began plotting a path to defeat Clinton -- which more or less revolves around repudiating everything that Romney did in his campaign in 2012. Cruz himself has said Romney was a poor candidate, but he generally has done so gently and taken pains to note that he respects Romney as a person.

"He was the one man on the planet who could not use ObamaCare as a wedge issue," the super PAC claims, calling him a "social media amateur." "Romney HAD NO WEDGE OR MAGNET ISSUE to turn out the voters he needed."

Keep the Promise then walks readers through multiple states where Romney failed and Cruz can succeed, including Florida, New Mexico and Colorado, where the organization sees Cruz holding appeal as a Hispanic candidate. It appears to project that Cruz can defeat Clinton in the Electoral College by a 296-242 margin if it wins Virginia, Ohio, Iowa, New Hampshire, Florida, Colorado, New Mexico and Nevada.

They key nationwide, though, is to harness conservative energy as a magnet for evangelical voters. That won't happen if they nominate Bush, who the super PAC seems driven on tearing down.

"The Establishment Never Learns," one section head says. "For 2016 they have chosen, Jeb Bush. The one person on the planet that forfeits Republicans on every Hillary wedge issue."

http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/16/politics/ted-cruz-super-pac-plan/index.html

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #659 on: July 20, 2015, 02:40:42 PM »
Ben Carson looks for attention without inflammatory comments
By RYAN LOVELACE
7/18/15

Ben Carson told reporters gathered at the Family Leadership Summit that the most important lessons have to do with how he wants to gain the public's attention. (AP Photo)

AMES, Iowa — As Donald Trump continues to make controversial comments designed to gain attention, Ben Carson hopes to gain support by doing the opposite.

He has learned several lessons since launching his presidential campaign in May, Carson told reporters gathered at the Family Leadership Summit. But he said the most important lessons have to do with how he wants to gain the public's attention.

"Probably the biggest lesson I've learned is how to speak in a way that allows people to actually hear what you are saying, rather than focus on one or two buzz words," Carson said.

Carson did not comment on Trump's accusation that Arizona Sen. John McCain may not have been a "war hero" had he not been held in captivity. Instead, Carson told reporters, McCain has done some wonderful things but calling him a war hero depends upon your definition of "war hero." Carson chose not to explain his definition of the term.

Carson, who enjoys the support of many evangelical Christians in the crowd on Iowa State's campus, received a standing ovation following his appearance onstage at the event sponsored by the Family Leader, a social conservative organization.

While taking questions from moderator Frank Luntz at the event, Carson proposed cutting "everything" the federal government does.

"I'm a surgeon so I know how to cut," Carson quipped as the crowd howled with a mixture of applause and laughter.

Carson was traveling with his wife in Iowa and told reporters that he was headed to Milwaukee, Wis., next on the campaign trail.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2568539

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #660 on: July 21, 2015, 02:12:11 PM »
Ohio Gov. John Kasich Announces He's Running for President
by CARRIE DANN
POLITICS  JUL 21 2015


Image: Republican U.S. presidential candidate and Ohio Governor John Kasich arrives on stage to formally announce his campaign for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination during a kickoff rally in Columbus

Ohio Gov. John Kasich officially announced his presidential run Tuesday, telling a crowd at Ohio State University that "the sun is rising" in America again.

"I am here to ask you for your prayers, for your support, for your efforts because I have decided to run for president of the United States," he said.

In a speech that described the woes of Americans worried about lost jobs, health care costs and crushing student debt -- and that made a point to reference the specific worries of minorities -- Kasich also tried to strike an optimistic note.

"The sun is rising, and the sun is going to rise to the zenith in America again," he said. "I promise you."

Highlighting his experience working with former President Ronald Reagan, the former congressman said he has the right resume to serve as the commander in chief.

"I have to humbly tell you that I believe I do have the skills, and I have the experience and the testing that shapes you and prepares you for the most important job in the world," he said.

Kasich also spoke at length about the need for compassion from public officials as well as the importance of religious faith in his life.

""I am just a flawed man trying to honor God's blessing," he said.

The Republican governor joins fifteen other candidates hoping to capture the GOP nod. Three of them are his fellow sitting governors: Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin, Gov. Chris Christie of New Jersey and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal.

He enters the race just one day after a new Washington Post/ABC News poll showed businessman Donald Trump topping the field in the GOP primary.

The former congressman is considered a relatively moderate Republican with an impressive resume and executive experience, and his home state of Ohio is a perennial key to his party's success in a presidential general election.

But his late entry to the race could be a challenge. At least at this point, he is polling in the low single digits, still without sufficient support to be eligible for FOX News' first Republican primary debate in less than three weeks.

He has also angered conservatives with his 2013 decision to expand Medicaid within his state as a part of Obamacare, and with his openness to a path to citizenship for undocumented immigrants.

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/john-kasich-says-hes-running-president-n395396

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #661 on: July 27, 2015, 09:37:52 AM »
Two weeks to go: Republicans scramble to make debate stage
By Jonathan Easley
07/27/15

The race is on for the final spots on stage for the first Republican debate.

With the highly-anticipated showdown less than two weeks away, candidates with low polling numbers are in a high-stakes scramble to qualify for an event that represents their best shot at breaking out.

Fox News is capping the Aug. 6 debate in Cleveland at 10 candidates based on five as-of-yet unspecified national polls released by 5 p.m. on Aug. 4.

Based on five polls used by RealClearPolitics (RCP), eight candidates look like locks to make the stage, while the race for the final two slots is headed for a controversial photo finish. For the candidates currently ranked between ninth place and 14th place, the polling differential is negligible.

“It’s a roll of the dice,” said Monmouth University polling director Patrick Murray. “It’s going to come down to the vagaries of how independent pollsters round off their results — we’re talking tenths of decimal points. It could come down to the five or six people who didn’t pick up their phones for a national survey and the five or six people who did.”

New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, Ohio Gov. John Kasich, former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, businesswoman Carly Fiorina, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal are separated by only 1.5 percentage points, according to the RCP national average at the end of last week.

Christie looks to be in the best shape of the bunch, sitting in 9th place with 2.8 percent support. Perry and Kasich are tied for 10th with 1.8 percent support, followed by Fiorina and Santorum at 1.4 percent, and Jindal at 1.2. (By contrast, the lowest of the top eight, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas), has 5.4 percent support; the highest, Donald Trump, has 18.2 percent.)

Getting left out of the first debate would be a significant blow to all of their prospects.

“It’s extremely important to be out there,” said Republican strategist Ron Bonjean. “If you’re not there, it’s out-of-sight-out-of-mind for voters, and just as importantly right now, for your fundraising efforts.”

For Christie and Santorum, missing the debate would put a spotlight on how far their stars have fallen.

Christie was once flying high in the polls. As early as last year he was considered by many a favorite to win the nomination. And Santorum is the most recent winner of the Iowa caucuses, having emerged in 2012 as the primary challenger to eventual nominee Mitt Romney.

Meanwhile, Kasich risks being frozen out of a debate that will take place in a state where he’s the sitting governor. For Perry, it would mean a missed opportunity for redemption after a mortifying brain-freeze on the debate stage essentially ended his presidential run in 2012.

A spot on the debate stage could legitimize Fiorina’s outsider bid while allowing her to showcase her much-lauded skills as a communicator. And some Republicans believe Jindal’s firebrand conservatism could catch on in Iowa, if only he could get the exposure.

It’s setting up as a dogfight among the campaigns to boost their standing nationally ahead of the debates. It means weighing the return on investment of spending early in an attempt to make the debate, versus mapping out a longer-term strategy.

“We’ve never seen anything like this,” said GOP strategist David Payne. “These candidates who are not polling well are forced to spend early money for national ad buys, while the earned media pathway is complicated by Donald Trump, who is costing every other candidate a chance to get in front of the camera. It’s a challenge.”

The campaign strategies for how the candidates plan to address that challenge are coming into view.

Christie’s campaign is betting big that a national advertising push can shore up his standing. This week, the campaign put $250,000 behind ads that will run on Fox News. The New Jersey governor is also getting an assist from a supporting super-PAC, which last week put more than $1 million into ads that will run in the Northeast.

Perry is hitching his train to Donald Trump. He has emerged as the most vocal opponent of the businessman and reality TV star, who is riding a media frenzy to the top of the polls. Perry could get a lift from Trump’s media coattails.

In addition, the former Texas governor is getting help from the well-funded super-PACs backing his bid. The Opportunity and Freedom PAC has booked nearly $1 million in national ads on conservative TV and radio outlets ahead of the debate.

Austin Barbour, who runs the PAC, noted that Perry tied for seventh in last week’s ABC News-Washington Post poll. “My hope is that we’ll see a couple more polls like that because of this earned media he’s getting off Trump, the speeches he’s giving and what we’ve been doing with paid media.”

Meanwhile, Santorum said at an event in Washington earlier this month that he’d ramp up his media appearances before the debate, and he’s following through. On Wednesday, Santorum did two Fox News hits, appeared on CNN and a Bloomberg online show and finished the day sparring with liberal host Rachel Maddow on MSNBC.

Kasich’s political team says their strategy is to focus on New Hampshire rather than on resources meant to raise his profile nationally. But the Ohio governor’s political team spent significantly on TV ads ahead of his launch and will hope his late entrance into the race is perfectly timed to give him a polling boost heading into August.

Predictably, the complaining over Fox News’s debate standards has picked up in recent days.

Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), who is barely registering in national polls, said on MSNBC last week that the parameters “suck,” while an adviser to Jindal’s campaign wrote an op-ed in The Wall Street Journal arguing that every Republican running for president deserves a prime-time slot.

“When did we start fearing debates? And if we do fear debates, what business do we have trying to win elections,” wrote Curt Anderson. “The plan to limit the participants in these debates is ridiculous in almost every respect.”

The Louisiana governor has temporarily suspended his campaign to deal with a shooting at a movie theater in Lafayette.

Fox News is holding a one-hour forum for the candidates who don’t qualify for the main event earlier in the day.

“That secondary forum will have a lot of qualified, highly knowledgeable and articulate folks,” said Dave Catalfamo, a spokesperson for former New York Gov. George Pataki, who also barely registers in the polls. “It might end up being more substantive because the candidates won’t have to respond to whatever idiotic thing Donald Trump says.”

But most Republicans view it as a second-tier gathering nonetheless.

“If you’re not in that top 10, you’re not going to be taken as seriously,” said Bonjean. “You risk getting left behind."

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/249161-low-tier-republicans-scrambling-to-get-into-fox-news-debate

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #662 on: July 29, 2015, 01:29:59 PM »
Walker: We May Not Know GOP Nominee Until Close to Convention
By Courtney Coren   
Tuesday, 28 Jul 2015

Image: Walker: We May Not Know GOP Nominee Until Close to Convention
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Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker said Tuesday that with such a crowded and well qualified field of candidates, it's possible the GOP nominee may not be known until close to the Republican convention.

On a stop in Philadelphia, where Walker attended two fundraising events, the Wisconsin Republican said that some states that hold later primaries, like Pennsylvania, which votes in April, may play a more deciding role in the nomination process than they typically do, Politico is reporting.

For that reason, Walker said that "we're not just running an early-state campaign."

He is just finishing up a tour of the four earliest voting states — Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina and Nevada — following the announcement of his White House bid. But he has also made stops in Chicago and Philadelphia.

"We think with the quality of the field it’s very likely that even states like [Pennsylvania] later in April will play a role," he told Politico. "It may go as far as — it could be close to the convention before we know who the ultimate nominee is."

Walker's advice for other candidates, if they want to win, is to start showing up in Pennsylvania now, which is a traditional swing state.

"If you want to make a case in November of 2016 that you care about people's votes, you can't just show up a couple months before," he said. "You've got to make the case early on."

Trump Slams Scott Walker in Iowa

http://www.newsmax.com/Politics/Republican-Convention-GOP/2015/07/28/id/659331/#ixzz3hJY31tPC

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« Reply #663 on: August 04, 2015, 04:59:25 PM »
Fox News announces candidate line-up for prime-time debate
Published August 04, 2015
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Fox News has announced the line-up for the prime-time Republican presidential debate this Thursday, and here's who qualified:

Real estate magnate Donald Trump; former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush; Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker; former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee; retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson; Texas Sen. Ted Cruz; Florida Sen. Marco Rubio; Kentucky Sen. Rand Paul; New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie; and Ohio Gov. John Kasich.

The roster of 10 candidates was determined based on an average of the five most recent national polls. Trump as expected made the cut, securing the top slot. Right behind him were Bush and Walker, who each have posted strong numbers in recent surveys.

The drama, rather, was at the edge of the top 10. Christie and Kasich, who were hovering by that edge in recent polling, were able to qualify.

Kasich, who leads the state where the debate is being held, said in a statement, "As governor, I am glad to welcome my fellow debate participants to our great state and I look forward to discussing the issues facing our country with them on Thursday."

But former Texas Gov. Rick Perry, former Pennsylvania Sen. Rick Santorum and several others will not be on the prime-time, 9 p.m. ET stage. The seven who did not make the top 10 will be invited to a separate 5 p.m. ET debate. Aside from Perry and Santorum, this includes Louisiana Gov. Bobby Jindal; former HP head Carly Fiorina; South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham; former New York Gov. George Pataki; and former Virginia Gov. Jim Gilmore.

Perry tweeted:

"I look forward to being @FoxNews 5pm debate for what will be a serious exchange of ideas & positive solutions to get America back on track."

The five polls included in the average that determined the line-up were conducted by Bloomberg, CBS News, Fox News, Monmouth University and Quinnipiac University.

The debates, hosted by Fox News and Facebook in conjunction with the Ohio Republican Party, will be held at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio.

With the primary campaign lately being rocked by Trump's rise in the polls above the jam-packed field, the big question is how the other nine candidates will hold their own on the prime-time stage -- and whether Trump will remain the front-runner after his debate debut.

For political outsiders like Trump and Carson, Democratic strategist Doug Schoen said, "The question is are they ready, literally and metaphorically, for prime-time?"

The debate will test whether they can articulate a "cogent narrative of what they'll do to promote and provoke change in our country," Schoen said.

Analysts have warned that Trump, whose bomb-throwing persona has seemingly fueled his climb, stands to lose traction if he can't command the stage.

Steve Deace, who hosts a conservative radio talk show in the Hawkeye State, said: "His entire campaign is based on him being a blunt instrument" and if he holds back, "that would be the death knell for him."

Plenty of candidates are eager to seize the spotlight from him. Ahead of the debates, Bush on Monday outlined his plan for improving border security and immigration enforcement.

Tough-talking Gov. Christie last week vowed to enforce marijuana laws if elected president, and tangled over the weekend with the teachers unions after saying on CNN they deserve a "punch in the face."

Paul on Tuesday introduced an amendment to crack down on "sanctuary cities" by requiring local officials to notify the feds about the arrest of an illegal immigrant.

Trump, meanwhile, has continued to climb in the polls despite attracting the ire of fellow Republicans for recently questioning Sen. John McCain's war record.

In the latest Fox News poll, Trump got the support of 26 percent of primary voters -- the highest level of support for any candidate so far and up from 18 percent in mid-July.

Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus, after the debate line-up was announced, touted the breadth of the 17-candidate primary field.

"Our field is the biggest and most diverse of any party in history and I am glad to see that every one of those extremely qualified candidates will have the opportunity to participate on Thursday evening," he said. "Republicans across the country will be able to choose which candidate has earned their support after hearing them talk through the issues."

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/08/04/fox-news-announces-candidate-line-up-for-prime-time-debate/?intcmp=hpbt1

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Re: 16 for '16: The Most Talked-About Potential GOP Presidential Candidates
« Reply #664 on: August 04, 2015, 10:19:43 PM »
Trump just said the Repubs should have listened to TED CRUZ when it came to obamacare and stuck together.  Had they done that, they could have stopped obamacare. 

Interesting.  He wants those conservative Cruz voters.

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« Reply #665 on: August 05, 2015, 11:44:58 AM »
Krauthammer on Carson: 'He's the tortoise [in the race]'
Published August 04, 2015
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Charles Krauthammer told viewers Tuesday on 'Special Report with Bret Baier' that he sees several surprises among the top ten candidates who qualified for Fox News' primetime Republican presidential debate on Thursday.

Businessman Donald Trump will take center stage, followed by former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, Wisconsin Governor Scott Walker, former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee, and Dr. Ben Carson.

Also making the main event are Senators Ted Cruz, R-Texas, Marco Rubio, R-Fla., Rand Paul, R-Ky., and Governors Chris Christie, R-N.J., and John Kasich, R-Ohio, who edged out former Texas Governor Rick Perry for the tenth lectern on the stage.

"Obviously the most interesting and unexpected, as of a month ago, is Trump in the center," the Fox News contributor and syndicated columnist said.

"But I think the more recent surprises, first of all, are [John] Kasich, that he makes the top 10. He came in very late, he holds down the left-wing of the GOP, he's a bleeding heart conservative like Jack Kemp and he's there."

Krauthammer said he was also surprised to see Carson on the list: "You would have thought with Trump taking all the space for the non-politician, Carson would suffer, but he's going to be two people over."

"He's the tortoise [in the race]... He's slow, he's steady, he's quiet, but he's staying there, and he's got staying power."

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« Reply #666 on: August 05, 2015, 12:01:58 PM »
Hey Beach, will you take a bet on whether or not Carson will implode (=show how stupid he really is) at the debate(s)?

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« Reply #667 on: August 05, 2015, 12:09:52 PM »
carson has said some crazy shit to get into the spotlight, but has toned it down bigtime. 

he may be able to just act like an adult and scoot into the top 3 as the others implode.

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« Reply #668 on: August 05, 2015, 12:10:11 PM »
Hey Beach, will you take a bet on whether or not Carson will implode (=show how stupid he really is) at the debate(s)?

Nah.  I don't bet.  I don't like taking people's money.   :)  Plus it's pretty dumb to put money on something you have no control over.  

I have no idea how Dr. Carson will do in debates.  I have never seen him debate.  But if you think Dr. Carson is stupid then more power to you.  

Now if you wanted to bet lunch on some kind of fitness/strength competition (lifting, sprints, distance, cycling, etc.), I'm down.  

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« Reply #669 on: August 05, 2015, 12:11:05 PM »
Hey Beach, will you take a bet on whether or not Carson will implode (=show how stupid he really is) at the debate(s)?

He already has.   Can't answer a simple yes or no question apparently.

I guess when God told him about his grand plan he had for Carson, he left out some key facts.

http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-ben-carson-crashes-and-burns-when-asked-a-simple-constitutional-question/



This morning on Meet the Press, Tea Party “darling” and Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson failed miserably at answering what should’ve been a ridiculously easy question concerning the separation of church and state in the U.S. Constitution.

One host Chuck Todd asked him, “Does the Bible have a authority over the US Constitution?”, The Republican candidate looked visibly shaken and pathetically refused to answer the ridiculously easy yes-or-no question, instead mumbling on about the unfairness and complexity of the question.

Although he may be very good at performing brain surgeries, this Tea Party simpleton doesn’t even understand one of the most basic tenets of our Constitution.

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« Reply #670 on: August 05, 2015, 12:22:11 PM »
Nah.  I don't bet.  I don't like taking people's money.   :)  Plus it's pretty dumb to put money on something you have no control over.  

I have no idea how Dr. Carson will do in debates.  I have never seen him debate.  But if you think Dr. Carson is stupid then more power to you.  

Now if you wanted to bet lunch on some kind of fitness/strength competition (lifting, sprints, distance, cycling, etc.), I'm down.  

Fair enough :)


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« Reply #671 on: August 05, 2015, 12:26:19 PM »
He already has.   Can't answer a simple yes or no question apparently.

I guess when God told him about his grand plan he had for Carson, he left out some key facts.

http://www.occupydemocrats.com/watch-ben-carson-crashes-and-burns-when-asked-a-simple-constitutional-question/



This morning on Meet the Press, Tea Party “darling” and Republican presidential candidate Ben Carson failed miserably at answering what should’ve been a ridiculously easy question concerning the separation of church and state in the U.S. Constitution.

One host Chuck Todd asked him, “Does the Bible have a authority over the US Constitution?”, The Republican candidate looked visibly shaken and pathetically refused to answer the ridiculously easy yes-or-no question, instead mumbling on about the unfairness and complexity of the question.

Although he may be very good at performing brain surgeries, this Tea Party simpleton doesn’t even understand one of the most basic tenets of our Constitution.

He also had a really bad quote, about healthcare being the center piece in Lenin's brand of communism. I think he can easily beat Kerry's performance in the last pres election.

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« Reply #672 on: August 06, 2015, 11:01:56 AM »
Not exactly scientific.   :)

Scott Walker Draws Informal Straw Poll Applause

Image: Scott Walker Draws Informal Straw Poll Applause (Photo by Theo Stroomer/Getty Images)
By Sandy Fitzgerald   
Thursday, 06 Aug 2015

Gov. Scott Walker was the favorite in an informal straw poll of wealthy donors attending the Koch brothers' gathering of GOP candidates in California, literally becoming the hands-down favorite of most of the hundred or so donors in a closed door session.

Republican pollster Frank Luntz asked donors to clap to show their choice for the 2016 nominee, and Walker by far got the most applause, sources at the gathering told Politico.

He was followed by former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and Florida Sen. Marco Rubio, with former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina after them.

One source, though, said former New York Gov. George Pataki and South Carolina Sen. Lindsey Graham got no claps at all, and Luntz joked about how quiet the room had become.

The group was only about a quarter of the 450 conservatives at the St. Regis Monarch Beach resort in Dana Point, Calif., last weekend at the gathering of the Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce, an umbrella organization for groups led by Charles and David Koch. The gathering attracted many of the 17 GOP presidential candidates, except for frontrunner Donald Trump.

According to reports, the Kochs are blocking Trump's access to influential tools in their political armory, including access to their state-of-the-art data and analytics services. He has also been excluded from their annual grassroots summit next month in Columbus, Ohio, run by Americans for Prosperity, as well as the weekend's California gathering of mega-donors, although most of his GOP rivals were invited and made appearances.

Freedom Partners would not comment to Politico about the informal straw poll or which donors were at the breakout session.

However, if donors are lining up behind Walker, they could provide a much-needed boost to his campaign coffers. His own super PAC has raised $20 million to date, but he's far behind the $103 million raised by Bush's organization.

There are still many donors who are not committed to any of the candidates, including the billionaire Koch brothers themselves or Las Vegas casino mogul Sheldon Adelson, who sent a political adviser to the California gathering.

Walker's informal straw poll win came as a surprise, after Texas Sen. Ted Cruz received most of the applause on Sunday during a presentation to the donors. Also, Walker's stance concerning $250 million in taxpayer funds for a new arena for the NBA's Milwaukee Bucks raised eyebrows, as the Kochs oppose government intervention in the free market system.

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/scott-walker-straw-poll-koch-brothers-donors/2015/08/06/id/665744/#ixzz3i3iz7CkV

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« Reply #673 on: August 07, 2015, 02:11:55 PM »
Missed the debate, but watched a number of clips.  They all sounded pretty decent.  Didn't look like anyone pulled a Rick Perry, but I didn't see all of it. 

http://video.foxnews.com/playlist/politics-gopdebate/?intcmp=hpbt1

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« Reply #674 on: August 10, 2015, 12:33:38 PM »
Trump loses Republican debate but Rubio, Cruz and others triumph
By Liz Peek 
Published August 07, 2015 
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The moderators of the GOP debate Thursday night at the Quicken Loans arena gave Donald Trump plenty of rope – and sure enough he hanged himself. Right out of the box, the candidates were asked to pledge their support to whomever ultimately wins the GOP nomination; the only hold-out was Trump, who refused to make that commitment and who elicited boos from the audience.

Later, in response to a sharp question from Megyn Kelly about his history of calling women “fat pigs” and “slobs,” Trump argued that the big problem with the country was political correctness. He concluded, “If you don’t like it Megyn, too bad; you haven’t been very nice to me.”  Bad decision, Donald.

Trump was also asked to provide proof of his claims that the Mexican government was intentionally funneling criminals into the U.S. He didn’t provide the requested back-up, but rather claimed, “If it weren’t for me, we wouldn’t be talking about illegal immigration.”  He followed that absurd claim with a rant about how much smarter the Mexican government was that our “stupid” America’s leaders.

In recent weeks Trump had explained that he gave money to numerous Democrat campaigns in order to secure favors – portraying those contributions as normal business transactions.

During the debate he was asked to provide specific examples of such benefits, and said that because he gave money to Hillary Clinton’s foundation and to her campaigns, he asked her to come to his wedding…and she did. Does he even know how tacky that sounds?

Undoubtedly, Trump will soon complain that the Fox anchors were out to get him. The truth is, the debate was his to lose and he lost it.

Trump was asked about his earlier support of a single-payer health care system, his several business failures, what he would do specifically about the visit of Quds Commander General Suleimani’s visit to Moscow (illegal under today’s sanction regime) and other issues that might (and should) give his enthusiastic followers some pause.

He was by turns bombastic and evasive, not answering the questions but rather launching into various diatribes about the stupidity of everyone not named Trump. And so it went.

Undoubtedly, Trump will soon complain that the Fox anchors were out to get him. The truth is, the debate was his to lose and he lost it.

Thankfully, it wasn’t all Trump all the time, though occasionally it seemed some candidates might have stepped out for some fresh air. When finally asked a question by Kelly, Dr. Ben Carson, thanked her and said “I wasn’t sure I was going to get to talk again.”

Who won the debates tonight? In the earlier round, Carly Fiorina once again proved herself a smart, formidable contestant, leaving many to wonder why her campaign has thus far failed to take off, relegating her to Stage 2.

Senator Marco Rubio did not lunge offstage for a glass of water, but instead handled himself well. His answers were crisp and thoughtful; on the contentious issue of immigration, he balanced a forceful demand for tightened borders with realism about the need to resolve the problem of our large illegal population.

He was challenged to defend his lack of executive experience and did so by reminding viewers of his several years running Florida’s state legislature. He also (rightly) noted that if the election came down to a resume competition, then Hillary Clinton would win.

Ted Cruz was also a winner Thursday night. His skills as a debater served him well, as did his forceful criticism of President Obama’s inability to confront ISIS, and his scathing rebuke of sanctuary cities.

John Kasich had a good night, too, and his success was essential. He entered the race late and he is not well known nationally. But, Kasich is popular with moderates who are skittish about electing another Bush, and this debate allowed him to reach a bigger audience.

Former Governor Jeb Bush failed to excite. His delivery was not crisp, and once again he got himself tangled up answering a question about the Iraq war. Really, he needs to get this down – his slightly fuzzy answers about his brother and the Iraq invasion make him appear irresolute. Maybe he really is simply rusty. The only issue on which he scored was education; he defends his support of Common Core with vigor.

Governor Chris Christie had a chance to crawl out of the doghouse last night, but barely made it past the door. He got into a shouting match over Rand Paul’s opposition to NSA snooping, with Christie citing his post-September 11 experience as reason to encourage more, not less, intelligence gathering. The confrontation was vintage Christie but somehow it lacked authenticity. Maybe Trump has simply stolen his tough-talk persona.

Carson, Huckabee and Walker all performed credibly, with Carson having the debate’s best line: “I’m the only one on the stage to separate Siamese twins. I’m the only one to remove half a brain, though you would think if you went to Washington that someone had beat me to it.”

Rand Paul seemed on the defensive, and did not impress. Though the country is tired of war, people are alarmed about ISIS, Iran, China and Russia. Paul’s semi-isolationist stance was an easier sell when our engagements in the Middle East were still building. His dustup with Christie came across as nasty on both sides, with Paul accusing the New Jersey governor of “blowing hot air.”

In the final minutes of the Great Debate, Senator Marco Rubio said “God has blessed the Republican Party; we have some very fine candidates; Democrats can’t even find one.”

On the basis on both the forums held Thursday in Cleveland, the voters may well agree.     

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2015/08/07/trump-loses-republican-debate-but-rubio-cruz-others-triumph.html?intcmp=hphz03